Peach Guild - Adding Complexity!
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
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I love that last message. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
I really like your advice about adding things over time. You also stated, in another video, that one should not overthink things; just start planting.
Those ideas make permaculture a lot less daunting.
Just planted a bunch of asparagus myself under our peach tree..didn't know if it was a good idea but now feeling good about it! Adding in more plants is fun and when you water one you water them all!
Thank you for the validation at the end. I started with fruit trees, each year I expand the mulch ring and add more plants. Haskaps, black berry, spring bulbs, seaberries, raspberry, lupins, comfrey, strawberries, and current. I am hoping my trees will look as glorious as that peach this year.
We add what we can, when we can! Sounds like you are growing your guilds magnificently!
Thank you for the reminder to not be an over-thinking perfectionist at the end there 👏🏻 👏🏻
Everyone thought I was crazy planting berry bushes under my fruit trees. Apples plum pear and peach. 4 years in they’re loving it.
Beautiful. I find this to be a very intuitive process. About a month ago when we planted our fruit trees I instantly knew I wanted to do companion planting with them before I realized it was already an art form with an official name. ❤ I thought " To hell what traditional notions are about fruit trees, these guys are going to have close relationships to other plants for the mutual benefit of all".. It's so great to see other people doing it. A lot of this seems just common sense to me, though it isn't for many gardeners who like to see everything separated and never touching. Many gardeners just don't think holistically about the natural environment and forget how inter-connected plants are, they literally share nutrients with one another and have their own language. We're planning to plant comfrey around many of our fruit trees this year as the leaves are packed with nutrients, nitrogen, phosphorus, minerals, and other goodies as a wholesome fertilizer. The comfrey will also help supplement food to our ducks.
I really appreciate your comment at the end, I planted a seedling peach this year and put some strawberries around it so I feel validated in my choice
Very good information about the guild s thanks for sharing
Beautiful work Sean, when I moved to my new home, I did this with all my truit trees. Apple, Plum , 2 peach, and 3 fig all with strawberry and currant close by. I'm going to showcase my work on my own channel here shortly. You actually inspired me to do so. Awesome video!
Thanks...I love videos like this, giving ideas and sharing the benefits of each plant but without the hard and fast "rules" lol.
My experience when adding asparagus to existing strawberries is that the asparagus forces the strawberries out to the edges. Asparagus grows very aggressively, and crowds out the ground cover. My ferns were 6’ tall the first season… and the crowns tripled in size the first year. I’m now (second year) having to watch them “cage fight” until dormancy when I can separate them!!
Love your guild tips. Thanks as always! My peaches haven't flowered yet but my currants are ripping and I had an american plum flowering like a whole month ago it was crazy white.
Having watched this I’m going to order some strawberries when I order my asparagus next week. Thanks for the videos!
Beautiful! That white currant is loaded.🤗
There once was a man named Peach who's fruits were just out of reach.
Try as they might the ladies would fight to grab them so tight he'd screech.
My yard’s food forest style ecosystem is under 5 years old. The squirrels dig up my asparagus and I’m still in the process of attracting the beneficial predatory insects to controle things like aphids. I’m also dealing with peach leaf curl, rust, black spot and, newly, cherry blackfly. Wondering how you deal with so many possible interruptions to the health of your trees and plants in a non-conventional way.
Thx for any possible ideas, including links to specific past videos I may have missed that address this. 💚
Hmmm feeling better about planting blackcurrant bushes under my fruit trees! I have runner beans behind. Nice idea about asparagus and strawberries....
very nice!
This is sooo cool
very nice and great advice especially at the end, enjoy
Quality outro
6:00 - your hair and the Siberian peach look like twins
We left grass grow. We dont always have time or money to mulch. So we left grass to grow. They grow through there life cycle then die off creating mulch. The birds and insects love it. Its there space.
What a great concept. I had no idea locusts were in the legume family and would fix nitrogen. It's good to know river locust doesn't have thorns, and I like that it's insect pollinated (I've bad allergies, so wind pollinators are my bane). I'm in the pacific northwest, so I'll have to research if it's appropriate to plant here or if there's a better "native or native friendly" alternative
For the Siberian Peach, I have two concerns:
1. What is your plan for dealing with peach tree borers? My understanding from a cursory glance is that siberian peach reduces the ability for borers to complete their lifecycle, but is not completely immune.
2. What is your plan for dealing with leaf curl fungus? This fungus overwinters in the leaves, so while I *really* like the concept of just raking leaves in a circle, this could potentially increase the disease pressure exactly where you don't want it. Is siberian peach resistant enough to not be concerned about?
Definitely looking forward to seeing more guild concepts!
Sean, can you talk a little bit about the schedule for when you chop and drop the river Locust?
No! Ha :)
I tend to like to cut after they have a nice flower set so the bees have tons of fun and maybe they can flower once more later!
Thank you for the information! Could you share the brand of 4 wheel cart you're using to carry things around? Thanks!
Do you know when you may have more river locust back in stock? I really appreciated this video and just planted two peach trees I would like to replicate your guild with.
We hope to have some nice numbers for the fall, fingers crossed!
Can you propagate the river locust via cuttings?
I haven't tried but that seems somehow reasonable... Give it a go!
Most peach trees are not long lived.
Any suggestions on what to plant as a successor to to a peach tree?
Could a second younger peach tree be started right next to the first?
What's your take on keeping trees in an air prune box for two growing seasons, lowering for winter to prevent freezing air going underneath, then raising back up in spring?
Could be OK... I think 2x4' beds would not be compatible with this idea... To be honest it doesn't thrill me as a concept, too much hard work, but I absolutely support people exploring these ideas!
How big does the locust tree get.
River Locust is like a shrub, maybe 10'... That said I plan to cut it pretty often to manageable sizes...
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On your recommendation and instruction, I collected black walnut last year and stratified them in buckets at my farm. Today, I planted them in my version of "air prune boxes" and I'l love your thoughts and constructive criticism if you have time soon. Thanks for all you do! ruclips.net/video/Ad5fY8tr93M/видео.html
Permaculture is all well and good for for maximizing soil fertility but at the same time if you want maximum fruit production from the peach tree (or any fruit tree) it helps to learn where on the tree the fruit grows. With Peach trees it is on second year wood only. So after harvesting it is best to prune some of the second year wood so for the rest of the season new wood can grow which will be second year wood for the following year. This is what the commercial growers do. It is what I also am doing . I just thinned a tremendous amount of baby peaches off of three trees as well as pruned water sprouts and new branches closer than six inches apart. This was to give the tree better aeration and the opportunity to put all the energy into growing the remaining fruit into larger sweeter fruit than it would have had I left the dozens of fruit I picked off on..... and to growing new fruiting wood (that I can reach) for next year.
I've thought deeply about this - there is such thing as over pruning. Nightmare articles can be read of people who try to simulate what commercial growers do and end up really harming their trees. I have read that it's never a good idea to prune when a fruit tree is in flowering or fruiting stage - they find it very traumatic actually. My understanding is that commercial growers deliberately over prune because they want easier accessibility during harvest. It isn't necessary to remove that much of the plant or you might end up with very little fruit. Also, a fruit tree simply "feels" healthier when it has more abundant growth than when everything is being cut away, especially during it's blooming/fruiting season. Also, I really think what's he's describing goes well beyond permaculture and more so into the intuitive side of forest gardening - learning to allow an ecosystem to thrive rather than constantly trying to be in "control", and helping that natural process of beneficial plant relationships to flourish.
@@Mossy179 I'm referring to small scale commercial growers. I have mature peach trees and every year they have produced and I have left the pruning to Nature, the result has been tiny barely edible and many very sickly looking fruit and massive sized fast growing trees - ( which hasn't been for a while due to the engineered fake Springs and premature blossoming and then deep freezes that follow which have killed all the fruit). I have finally, beginning the last few years, been pruning the trees down to a manageable height. I also covered them with shade cloth in February to either keep them in dormancy or at least protect any blossoms from frost in weeks ahead and it seems to have paid off. I'll see what the late spring/summer brings in terms of a harvest as compared to earlier years when I left the trees alone and report back.
@@emilybh6255l great idea about the shadecloth!
@@emilybh6255 Engineered fake springs? Thanks foe your response. 💙
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