3 years later and I'm sure this mindset has changed. Or at least it should. As someone who's been in Cyber Security for almost 4 years, skip this video and go for it if you have a passion for it. It's worth it
Your advice is discouraging and I disagree with your views. You can be in Cyber Security after doing a certification or a degree....Just make sure you have a solid foundation of knowledge by doing Security+ Cert and doing GIAC cert or CISSP cert or CASP cert. After doing your certs find your target market in the cyber security or IT niche and find out what others are not offering as a service in your area. Do some brainstorming and pick up a unique service you can offer and build your business around that. First start working with small micro businesses then you can scale later.
he just want to make youtube videos and earn from it like other youtubers .....never seen such a discouraging review or comments ....dnt know what to say ...it seems to that he has some grudge with security guys
Ash Sumer I disagree as well with this video. Ash has put it well there. To create a company, its a bit easier with a correct mindset, you can hire these experts with certifications, just need connections and a passion for success 💪
I am an entry level cyber security professional hence I got myself inside the door. It is my opinion that it is a great profession for people who are willing to put time, training, education, dedication and effort. It is hard (you must be right all the time), broad and it is not profitable right away but for those who can make a difference, do it. Don't listen to naysayers. There is a demand in the job market and as a woman, I will make a difference in this niche.
+Stacey Nyongesa My biggest worry about getting into the field is that if a mistake happens it is a lot harder to fix. How much schooling/practice did you go through before you were at a point where you were confident enough to be able to work the job you do? Thanks in advance if you read this comment and get back to me. Hope you work is going well.
Jelloz104 Mistakes can happen even with the best professionals. How you handle the mistake is imperative. The right temperament and implementation is key. I still maintain that prevention is better than cure. I graduated in November 2014 after 3 years of learning General IT(undergrad) with some Security modules. Nothing else. I have been practicing since September 2015, so I am very new to the field. You do not need to be an expert right away. I intend to do further certifications with my employer. Right now I do most of my reading and research alone. I bought an e-book CSX-Fundamentals of Security from ISACA and I have also began reading ISO 27001 AND COBIT 5 which are the frameworks/standards of Infosec, among others. Schooling only gives you the theory, practicing will help with confronting problems. Practicing is like being thrown in the deep end and learning how to swim. Work is great. Good luck!
i followed this video when I was 17 in high school. I joined the military reserve (CAN) and got into cyber. i’m doing pretty well for my age, moved out of parents. I think now with how the space has changed, lots of businesses are seeing the impact or ransomware, and are willing to pay someone to avoid it!
5 years on we're in the corona pandemic & cyber security is at the forefront of holding shit together *cough cough* Zoom - think you left infosec too early Eli
Want to do IT Security? My advice is to join the Army and do iOS development, lol come on Eli, if he wanted to be a programmer he would have known it by then. I honestly still can't think of a reason why you're so "anti IT" and all for mobile development. Does it bring in good money? Sure. Does later in your career having 10-20 years experience in management/it or consulting bring in multiple times more money? How could you argue it doesn't.
The problem is, companies often figure that it is cheaper to pay for damage compensation than for having security concepts implemented in the first place, so the only ones who get paid very well are those who are security programmers, who are securing banking transactions and develop custom intrusion detection and stuff like that. Applying and configuring off the shelf security solutions (DDoS protection, blocking ports, set up a HTTPS certificate etc.) should be expectable from every web master who installs and maintains online software. If you have no experience in the field, stay away from it, because if you fail or do "pseudo security", literally, peoples money or even lives may be at risk. "Cyber security" is largely some kind of media bullshit term anyway.
First of all security programmers do not setup IDS's, that's the network admin's job or security analyst's job. And what the hell is "pseudo security"? Please if you don't know what you're talking about just stay offline.
Perceived job demand is "what it is" with us and cyber security. Given the number of hacks we've seen over the past year or so as well as the stated need for more security, it shouldn't be hard to understand. A lot of people are simply unhappy with their current jobs, or may still be unemployed from the recent economic downturn. A lot of people are on the outside looking in to an industry which is supposed to have double digit job growth over the coming decade. From that, it should be fairly easy to understand why people are asking questions about this field.
Another thing I'm curious about is why you keep bringing up the military and security clearance. I think, although I may be wrong, many people are asking about securing business' servers against hackers in order to protect companies' proprietary information and customer's information rather than government secrets. Working for Barnes and Noble, for example, as a cyber security expert probably doesn't require classified, secret, or top secret clearance.
This is very late but I completely agree with everything you stated in this comment because it describes me in every way! I've tried so many things in IT and it seems that no matter what route there's always this guy that's like "come on why would you want to do that?" Lol
How about getting into a DoD Intelligence Agency, such as the NSA? Instead of military. Cause Military life isnt for everyone, especially active duty. I have friends/family members in the military and hear theres a lot of BS you have to put up with, especially the enlisted ranks (such as PT requirements, being treated badly by superiors, favoritism, etc). Plus the constant moving around the country, long tours deployed overseas away from family, etc. I think getting into a US Govt/DOD Intelligence Agency like NSA, DIA, CIA or FBI as a civilian government employee is another viable route into Cyber. Still working for US Fed government without having to put up with a lot of the BS that comes with military life
Worst video I have ever watched .... feel bad for the guy who asked the question... this guy probably one of the guys who is always bringing everything else down...
He is right though, for anyone still watching this video. The Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines offer cyber programs. The Navy has a big extensive cyber programs such as Cryptologic Warfare, Cryptologic Technician and Cyber Warfare Engineer. The Army has a whole bunch of Cyber jobs and the Air force. The Marines have one in particular I believe. The military does provide a good foundation to not only enhance your own knowledge but give you certain experiences the civilian world can't give you. I can say that with confidence.
As someone with experience in this area, I disagree. While the military and the cleared world are a good way to work in cyber security/ information security, it is far from the only or best way. A clearance can help you get a job, however employers are still going to want to see relevant knowledge and experience. It can be easy to get that on the civilian side through certifications and CTFs and local infosec groups.
some Clarification for anyone, I am an 0602 MOS (Marine Occupational Specialty, communications officer. I design and set up networks and security for different Marine units. I have a clearance and it was actually quite a long and tedious process. Cyber Network operators 0651's, have 40k sign on bonuses. school is about 4-6 months. contracts are as short as 3 years...
Saying you need to be in the military to be in cybersecurity is kind of like saying you need a PhD in computer science to be in software development. Both statements are equally not true.
This didn’t age well…lol..we have multiple Fortune 500 companies coming to us for cyber security consulting. EVERYONE is willing to pay us, and pay us big!
Man's taking absolute piss but the reality is companies & executives don't want to pay for CySec (because it doesn't grow business directly) and the second they get a better alternative, they'll kick you out. I'm playing devil's advocate here.
You have not a clue what you're talking about. But this is now 2019, this video did not age well. Cyber Security experts are making 6 figures and their is a massive shortage for Cyber Security professionals.
OMG no knowledge whatsoever how can you say that about Cybersecurity!! please inform yourself better before letting someone ramdon like him "youtuber" influence in your life I am currently takin Cyber security at purdue bachelors on cybersecurity and from here take it with robotics as it is my goal, I am so so sorry for this video being available, omg MICROSOFT WILL LOVE YOU PROLLY HAVE YOU IN THEIR COMPANY!! bro the bigeest thing is cyber security and it is whatevery business is looking for! omg I can only think you saying this crap in an interview!! WRONG CAREER IF YOU HAVE ANY!!
3 years later and I'm sure this mindset has changed. Or at least it should. As someone who's been in Cyber Security for almost 4 years, skip this video and go for it if you have a passion for it. It's worth it
Almost funny how wrong this video is 3yrs later. Don't be discouraged!
Why is it wrong
Your advice is discouraging and I disagree with your views.
You can be in Cyber Security after doing a certification or a degree....Just make sure you have a solid foundation of knowledge by doing Security+ Cert and doing GIAC cert or CISSP cert or CASP cert.
After doing your certs find your target market in the cyber security or IT niche and find out what others are not offering as a service in your area. Do some brainstorming and pick up a unique service you can offer and build your business around that.
First start working with small micro businesses then you can scale later.
Thanks steve
+TheDopestGamer making six figures isn't the way to go? Look up cyber security salaries. Maybe that'll change your mind
he just want to make youtube videos and earn from it like other youtubers .....never seen such a discouraging review or comments ....dnt know what to say ...it seems to that he has some grudge with security guys
Ash Sumer I disagree as well with this video. Ash has put it well there. To create a company, its a bit easier with a correct mindset, you can hire these experts with certifications, just need connections and a passion for success 💪
Give advice in areas that you're familiar with. You obviously have no clue about infosec.
Arturo Avila True
Anybody in 2019 and want to tell him that people are getting paid like anything in cybersecurity.
I am an entry level cyber security professional hence I got myself inside the door. It is my opinion that it is a great profession for people who are willing to put time, training, education, dedication and effort. It is hard (you must be right all the time), broad and it is not profitable right away but for those who can make a difference, do it. Don't listen to naysayers. There is a demand in the job market and as a woman, I will make a difference in this niche.
+Stacey Nyongesa My biggest worry about getting into the field is that if a mistake happens it is a lot harder to fix. How much schooling/practice did you go through before you were at a point where you were confident enough to be able to work the job you do? Thanks in advance if you read this comment and get back to me. Hope you work is going well.
Jelloz104 Mistakes can happen even with the best professionals. How you handle the mistake is imperative. The right temperament and implementation is key. I still maintain that prevention is better than cure. I graduated in November 2014 after 3 years of learning General IT(undergrad) with some Security modules. Nothing else. I have been practicing since September 2015, so I am very new to the field. You do not need to be an expert right away. I intend to do further certifications with my employer. Right now I do most of my reading and research alone. I bought an e-book CSX-Fundamentals of Security from ISACA and I have also began reading ISO 27001 AND COBIT 5 which are the frameworks/standards of Infosec, among others. Schooling only gives you the theory, practicing will help with confronting problems. Practicing is like being thrown in the deep end and learning how to swim. Work is great. Good luck!
Stacey Nyongesa what company do you work for? Are you in Kenya? I'm doing computer science and I'll be moving to do IT in Kenya after graduation
How did you get your foot in the door ? I'm on an IT & Cyber Security course at the moment
How did you do it? What degree/certificates did you get?
This was very discouraging. How can it be so bad if the demand out weighs the supply by far?
i followed this video when I was 17 in high school. I joined the military reserve (CAN) and got into cyber. i’m doing pretty well for my age, moved out of parents.
I think now with how the space has changed, lots of businesses are seeing the impact or ransomware, and are willing to pay someone to avoid it!
Nice bro
Correction for the video title: You better go for Android OS stuff.
I'm literally doing exactly what you are saying.
5 years on we're in the corona pandemic & cyber security is at the forefront of holding shit together *cough cough* Zoom - think you left infosec too early Eli
Hello sir. Can i still make the money with android development? Where do i go to make the money? Upwork?
If I was young, I'd go for Microsoft Active Directory Security, and Azure security certification.
Eli is just reflecting sooo incredibly hard.
Want to do IT Security? My advice is to join the Army and do iOS development, lol come on Eli, if he wanted to be a programmer he would have known it by then. I honestly still can't think of a reason why you're so "anti IT" and all for mobile development. Does it bring in good money? Sure. Does later in your career having 10-20 years experience in management/it or consulting bring in multiple times more money? How could you argue it doesn't.
“Nobody wants to pay for you” but trust me they have to 🤣
Seriously!
The problem is, companies often figure that it is cheaper to pay for damage compensation than for having security concepts implemented in the first place, so the only ones who get paid very well are those who are security programmers, who are securing banking transactions and develop custom intrusion detection and stuff like that. Applying and configuring off the shelf security solutions (DDoS protection, blocking ports, set up a HTTPS certificate etc.) should be expectable from every web master who installs and maintains online software. If you have no experience in the field, stay away from it, because if you fail or do "pseudo security", literally, peoples money or even lives may be at risk. "Cyber security" is largely some kind of media bullshit term anyway.
First of all security programmers do not setup IDS's, that's the network admin's job or security analyst's job. And what the hell is "pseudo security"? Please if you don't know what you're talking about just stay offline.
Perceived job demand is "what it is" with us and cyber security. Given the number of hacks we've seen over the past year or so as well as the stated need for more security, it shouldn't be hard to understand.
A lot of people are simply unhappy with their current jobs, or may still be unemployed from the recent economic downturn. A lot of people are on the outside looking in to an industry which is supposed to have double digit job growth over the coming decade. From that, it should be fairly easy to understand why people are asking questions about this field.
Another thing I'm curious about is why you keep bringing up the military and security clearance. I think, although I may be wrong, many people are asking about securing business' servers against hackers in order to protect companies' proprietary information and customer's information rather than government secrets. Working for Barnes and Noble, for example, as a cyber security expert probably doesn't require classified, secret, or top secret clearance.
This is very late but I completely agree with everything you stated in this comment because it describes me in every way! I've tried so many things in IT and it seems that no matter what route there's always this guy that's like "come on why would you want to do that?" Lol
How about getting into a DoD Intelligence Agency, such as the NSA? Instead of military. Cause Military life isnt for everyone, especially active duty. I have friends/family members in the military and hear theres a lot of BS you have to put up with, especially the enlisted ranks (such as PT requirements, being treated badly by superiors, favoritism, etc). Plus the constant moving around the country, long tours deployed overseas away from family, etc. I think getting into a US Govt/DOD Intelligence Agency like NSA, DIA, CIA or FBI as a civilian government employee is another viable route into Cyber. Still working for US Fed government without having to put up with a lot of the BS that comes with military life
IOS or Android?
So will doing Real Estate, social marketing and stock trading get you money?
Worst video I have ever watched .... feel bad for the guy who asked the question... this guy probably one of the guys who is always bringing everything else down...
He is right though, for anyone still watching this video. The Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines offer cyber programs. The Navy has a big extensive cyber programs such as Cryptologic Warfare, Cryptologic Technician and Cyber Warfare Engineer. The Army has a whole bunch of Cyber jobs and the Air force. The Marines have one in particular I believe. The military does provide a good foundation to not only enhance your own knowledge but give you certain experiences the civilian world can't give you. I can say that with confidence.
U a fool😘 Haaaaa Now I want to be a cybersecurity expert. how about it? I got a MS in CSEC 😆
As someone with experience in this area, I disagree. While the military and the cleared world are a good way to work in cyber security/ information security, it is far from the only or best way. A clearance can help you get a job, however employers are still going to want to see relevant knowledge and experience. It can be easy to get that on the civilian side through certifications and CTFs and local infosec groups.
where is Cybersecurity squad at???
Terrible and discouraging. I'm so thankful I didn't watch this video when I was thinking about quitting my job & making the jump.
Hello sir
some Clarification for anyone, I am an 0602 MOS (Marine Occupational Specialty, communications officer. I design and set up networks and security for different Marine units. I have a clearance and it was actually quite a long and tedious process. Cyber Network operators 0651's, have 40k sign on bonuses. school is about 4-6 months. contracts are as short as 3 years...
Saying you need to be in the military to be in cybersecurity is kind of like saying you need a PhD in computer science to be in software development. Both statements are equally not true.
Alright so I joined the army and got a Secret clearance what do I do now
If you don't recommend security then what computer science consulting company would you recommend?
dont you see this guy is a clown omg dont listen to him please refer to better channels with actual knowledge
Don’t listen to this dude. If you wanna get into security then put in the work, you don’t need to be in the military to do it
This didn’t age well…lol..we have multiple Fortune 500 companies coming to us for cyber security consulting. EVERYONE is willing to pay us, and pay us big!
Man's taking absolute piss but the reality is companies & executives don't want to pay for CySec (because it doesn't grow business directly) and the second they get a better alternative, they'll kick you out. I'm playing devil's advocate here.
You have not a clue what you're talking about. But this is now 2019, this video did not age well. Cyber Security experts are making 6 figures and their is a massive shortage for Cyber Security professionals.
Video too Negative!!!
This advice did not age well 😂😂
Working for government you need a clearance.
Working for the private sector you don't need one.
What kind of bs advice is this ?
He asked about doing business you are talking crazy and craps
i dont think this is aging well with the pandemic requirements security has brought up
I mean he's right. The best bet is the military, that's why im joining this year.
OMG no knowledge whatsoever how can you say that about Cybersecurity!! please inform yourself better before letting someone ramdon like him "youtuber" influence in your life I am currently takin Cyber security at purdue bachelors on cybersecurity and from here take it with robotics as it is my goal, I am so so sorry for this video being available, omg MICROSOFT WILL LOVE YOU PROLLY HAVE YOU IN THEIR COMPANY!! bro the bigeest thing is cyber security and it is whatevery business is looking for! omg I can only think you saying this crap in an interview!! WRONG CAREER IF YOU HAVE ANY!!
This guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about 😂
This is disgusting.
…THIS DID NOT AGE WELL AT ALL