Yeah the development team is not very proactive tbh. I think its a good patch but DJ got shafted and they gave Kazuya a lot of good buffs and fixes but I would trade a decent heat burst for one of those buffs.
@@dred4202Jin's nerf isn't even that bad. The fact that you don't have the Holy Spirit extending ff2's hitbox is the end of Jin for you speaks volumes about your playstyle
I don't understand why they keep nerfing Devil Jin. Not many players play Devil Jin right now, but they keep nerfing him. Harada, forget about your Feng and BUFF Devil Jin already.
You forgot all important nerfs for Reina Doesn’t have high crush on a lot of her moves. Most notably fcdf4. Basically she can’t do cheese high crush setups anymore because she just gets jabbed out. The other one is reduced ff2 tracking. And it can be side step to right [ smaller characters can do in both side ] However she is still standing up pretty strong,
@user-hf2zi8bk6r Exactly! Devil jin has bunch of good moves like b4, df1, bf21, ws2, ws1, ewgf which he can do from a wavedash to close the neutral. I don't need those braindead mourning crow setups to steal wins.
jin cant do ff2 after hellsweep anymore(regardless of how they wake up). if they wake up backwards(the way ff2 would be able to hit guaranteed before), the move will just go into their body without doing anything.
Its cool that you can parry heatburst now with jin but the nerfs seem drastic imo. Im not even good at ewgf but Its part of what makes mishimas so skillfull. removing that seems unhealthy for jin as a character. Question: In t7 jin could parry RA but can he do it in t8? everytime I tried I got hit by it
No, you can’t parry RA or heat smashes. I got bodied a ton at launch because I tried it lol. You also can’t parry unblockables, charge attacks and a bunch of other things
You cannot. In the 1.05 general changes section they line out what can be parried and what can't under "Strong Attack Reversal" and "Strong Parry" section. "They are ineffective against moves with reversal break effects (Rage Arts, Heat Smash, Power Crush immediately after a successful intercept, and some unique moves.)" Jin's b1+3 parry falls under the Strong Parry property.
@@nurdauletpolatbek2681nobody complains about neutral nerfs, the problems with everything else that got touched. Not only combo routes are weakened, even oki got heavily damaged by demon paw nerf
I knew the Kazuya mains were going to be eating this patch and I'm very happy to have picked up the character in this game. The nerfs to Jin don't bother me, I still need to pick up Reina, and Devil Jin needs to be fixed. Thanks for the video, Devilster!!
df3, 2, 1 on kazuya was so fucked. worked fine for a long time then a patch came and suddenly I wasn't able to charge the third hit. my staple combo got fucked up (and probably damage of it too).
New optimal EWHF route is EWHF -> SSR EWHF/(1-2-)4 -> b3f1 -> microdash b3f1 -> heatburst -> deepdash buffered 3-1f -> zen 2 f -> ff4/fff3. Still less damage tho Btw ff2 nerf also heavily hit hellsweep oki. Now you gotta lab it against every character, and even than it doesn't work on 6 is them lmao. Bumco didn't think this nerf through
I can't wait to try out 1.05 Jin. I do know if you delay the 2 after ff you gain more distance at the loss of speed, wonder if that makes his 1.04 ff2 combos possible..
I think u missed somthing I got back to the game after like a month of not playing and suddenly i feel like jin's jab 1 isn't the same range anymore is it right or i just got worse?
@@edgelord121I did some lab, did the triple electrics pretty much like in T7, but didn't manage to connect consistently the df1, 2, and it doesn't seems toi have any microdashes on the video when I check on 0,25 speed. Is there something I'm missing? @edgelord121
@@neskuix3342 it is possible to connect it without microdash too, but then you'd have to do the third electric at the very last frame possible, which is harder than the microdash route in my opinion.
@@edgelord121 still lost after more lab, I tried on T7 to see if I lost my execution, but it was still consistent, and if i try to imput the slightest micro dash possible before the df1 2, at best it resets the combo. So i'm just gonna wait for a detailed breakdown on his new combos and hope i get the thing😵
@@davida7229 bf1+2 mf... Don't try act smart rn... Bf2 is the laser scrapper It's Bf1+2 not bf1,2... Know the difference between these before you want to mock someone alright?
Yeah the grab on the sentai 1 and 2 is a little crazy. What do you do now if someone blocks that powercrush because the only way to get out was scare your opponent with the delay, but now you just gotta take a grab.
Im so tired of nerfing people or buffing people because of twitter posts. Like have the devs played their game? You should know whats broken or messed up. Lets take a character on life support and nerf him more. Even though it wont affect the whole of the game
Pq eles nerfam tanto o devil jin???? Tinha que nerfar a porcaria do king e da alisa, dois bonecos com gameplay horrível e que tiram muito dano... Agr o Dv Jin é um boneco com gameplay difícil, ele é justo. Mta sacanagem isso
These nerfs were undeserved. It's only because of tmmswe kept biting about it and Tekken Devs have started following his guide. Jins never been a top 10 character. You CBM Book Knee Arsenality execute Jin 110% but always end up at best in top 8. Nowhere near Drag Feng Lilly Nina consistently top 5 levels of strong.
See vro he is connected to tekken from very long, it seems obvious why they follow his guide, he promotes it alot, he wants all over cnt extremely broken kazuya back now
I swear to god I never understood why you couldn’t parry heat burst or whatever. It took me so long to understand ur just not allowed to do it it’s unfair to be forced to take that parrying it when u know it’s coming is how it should be
Игры
Dark times for Devil Jin mains.
Yeah the development team is not very proactive tbh. I think its a good patch but DJ got shafted and they gave Kazuya a lot of good buffs and fixes but I would trade a decent heat burst for one of those buffs.
They have him new stuff and nerfed his old stuff and then nerfed his new stuff
uh oh, a 141 damage odd combo got fixed, sad days
@@asad_aehe's the least doomer DJ player .. one combo taken away .. and he even got a better wall ender fixed but no dj is dead apparently
Gon make us go harder!!
TheMainManSwe rubbing his hands on Kazuya buff.
I think bro might be rubbing something else with how good Kazuya ate with all these buffs
@@S0M3GUY778yeah fr he hasn’t posted so he’s probably doing that as we speak😂😂
It's because of this little Swedish meatball Why Jin is nerfed every time he jus wines until he gets what he wants
@@dred4202 so real cried about Reina she got nerfed too
@@dred4202Jin's nerf isn't even that bad. The fact that you don't have the Holy Spirit extending ff2's hitbox is the end of Jin for you speaks volumes about your playstyle
There's no more "Kazuya moment" Ahh combo 😂
Thanks for the update on the Mishima
No problem 👍
Gratitude upon you for adjusting Kazuya mine lightskin fellow
Thanks for the visual guides Devilster, u da man!
I don't understand why they keep nerfing Devil Jin. Not many players play Devil Jin right now, but they keep nerfing him. Harada, forget about your Feng and BUFF Devil Jin already.
they nerfed all the demon paws so i think they thought they have to nerf devil jins aswell! rip DJ untill the next patch i guess
oh no, Devil Jin isn't top tier for once!
@@yelowninja mfs gonna get nerf again for some magical reason
Is because he won't be in t9 with the devil gene being gone
They wanna remove Devil gene next game 😭💀
You forgot all important nerfs for Reina
Doesn’t have high crush on a lot of her moves. Most notably fcdf4.
Basically she can’t do cheese high crush setups anymore because she just gets jabbed out.
The other one is reduced ff2 tracking. And it can be side step to right [ smaller characters can do in both side ]
However she is still standing up pretty strong,
Stupid nerf for devil Jin why they always sabotaging dvj.
Cuz they probably not gonna include him in t9 so they gonna make the character trash till nobody plays him
That mourning crow setup seems busted, glad they removed it
@@a_lc_mlatikur2455the whole character sucks, but people crying over heat smash and setups, now they removed hes himself, dogshit
dvj mains are so ridiculous lmao he is still in good shape just has less bs, the fuck?
@user-hf2zi8bk6r Exactly! Devil jin has bunch of good moves like b4, df1, bf21, ws2, ws1, ewgf which he can do from a wavedash to close the neutral. I don't need those braindead mourning crow setups to steal wins.
Lets go man we can see tekken 8 parry is everything videos again
Thank you sir
1:58 🎵 Garden Of Tiger 🎵 from " Tekken : Dark Resurrection " 🔥🔥!
jin cant do ff2 after hellsweep anymore(regardless of how they wake up). if they wake up backwards(the way ff2 would be able to hit guaranteed before), the move will just go into their body without doing anything.
Interesting. We will look into this
Devilster is the best!!❤ thanks for this video !!!❤❤❤
Power crush in advance sfx goes crazy
Its cool that you can parry heatburst now with jin but the nerfs seem drastic imo. Im not even good at ewgf but Its part of what makes mishimas so skillfull. removing that seems unhealthy for jin as a character. Question: In t7 jin could parry RA but can he do it in t8? everytime I tried I got hit by it
No, you can’t parry RA or heat smashes. I got bodied a ton at launch because I tried it lol. You also can’t parry unblockables, charge attacks and a bunch of other things
You cannot. In the 1.05 general changes section they line out what can be parried and what can't under "Strong Attack Reversal" and "Strong Parry" section. "They are ineffective against moves with reversal break effects (Rage Arts, Heat Smash, Power Crush immediately after a successful intercept, and some unique moves.)" Jin's b1+3 parry falls under the Strong Parry property.
Eh, which removal seems unhealthy again? Demon paw had too much range as a neutral tool, heat smash tracking of the kick was stupid aswell
Jin is so good you have to practice more
@@nurdauletpolatbek2681nobody complains about neutral nerfs, the problems with everything else that got touched. Not only combo routes are weakened, even oki got heavily damaged by demon paw nerf
I knew the Kazuya mains were going to be eating this patch and I'm very happy to have picked up the character in this game. The nerfs to Jin don't bother me, I still need to pick up Reina, and Devil Jin needs to be fixed. Thanks for the video, Devilster!!
Devil Jin got one good buff, but it won’t cover his ff2 nerf. Now he’s able to follow up b3 heat dash with heaven’s door for 51 damage
df3, 2, 1 on kazuya was so fucked. worked fine for a long time then a patch came and suddenly I wasn't able to charge the third hit. my staple combo got fucked up (and probably damage of it too).
The 3 ewgf Df 1 2 is not consistent at all. The connection is goo 1 on 5 try
Sadness overload for a devil jin main like myself
Harada must really love his EWGF boys.
Finally jin can parry heat burst
i dont find the music in the background where is it from 😂😢
As a devil jin main i can safely say i dropped this game right before Tekken shop came out and I'm so glad i did
lage raho
I love the fact that you can now parry heat burst and heat’s smash with Jin now lol
Cannot parry heat smash
@@edgelord121you can
@@edgelord121read the patch notes
@@Rockoutgeek_ you read the patch notes. Only heat burst can be parried, not heat smash
New optimal EWHF route is EWHF -> SSR EWHF/(1-2-)4 -> b3f1 -> microdash b3f1 -> heatburst -> deepdash buffered 3-1f -> zen 2 f -> ff4/fff3. Still less damage tho
Btw ff2 nerf also heavily hit hellsweep oki. Now you gotta lab it against every character, and even than it doesn't work on 6 is them lmao. Bumco didn't think this nerf through
Btw checked but ff2 route works (occasionally?) if you do everything as I wrote higher but replace last 3-1 with the previous sequence
1:40 is there a micro dash after the third electric?
yup
Cmn guys don't give up Devil Jin 😢
I usually parry too early anyways 🥴
Funny how Jin is nerf and buff at the same time 😂
I can't wait to try out 1.05 Jin. I do know if you delay the 2 after ff you gain more distance at the loss of speed, wonder if that makes his 1.04 ff2 combos possible..
kazuya mains eating meals rn
musik name in 1min 30 sek ?
Background music name please which started at 1:53 and ends at 2:19.
Stalking Wolves from T5DR
I think u missed somthing
I got back to the game after like a month of not playing and suddenly i feel like jin's jab 1 isn't the same range anymore is it right or i just got worse?
its the same!
@@Devilster i dont know what happened it felt off but now its allright i guess i just needed time to adjust to the game again
Btw what are the inputs for triple EWGF route with Kazuya? Can't get it to work properly
Delay the third electric like in tekken 7, then microdash df1,df2
@@edgelord121I did some lab, did the triple electrics pretty much like in T7, but didn't manage to connect consistently the df1, 2, and it doesn't seems toi have any microdashes on the video when I check on 0,25 speed. Is there something I'm missing? @edgelord121
@@neskuix3342 it is possible to connect it without microdash too, but then you'd have to do the third electric at the very last frame possible, which is harder than the microdash route in my opinion.
@@edgelord121 still lost after more lab, I tried on T7 to see if I lost my execution, but it was still consistent, and if i try to imput the slightest micro dash possible before the df1 2, at best it resets the combo. So i'm just gonna wait for a detailed breakdown on his new combos and hope i get the thing😵
@@neskuix3342 tbh there's not much of a reason to go for the triple electric route still.
Oh wow, Kazuya's not total dog shit anymore
NOOOO not the qudan tech
Oh no dvj
Overall they have weakened jin a bit by removing heat smash tracking.😅
Rip DJ Ferrari tech
what is the devil jin move called when he fires out red chains?
bf1+2
@@sudharsanana4442 Huh?? Pretty sure it's uf1 he's talking about lol. What the heck is bf1+2 anyways 😆?
@@davida7229 ahhh he was talking about that... Bf1+2 is a wall combo with a follow up... That too has a chain animation soo I misunderstood ig
@@sudharsanana4442 bf2+1 i think you mean too, not sure what bf1 even does to begin with
@@davida7229 bf1+2 mf... Don't try act smart rn... Bf2 is the laser scrapper
It's Bf1+2 not bf1,2... Know the difference between these before you want to mock someone alright?
People who SHOULD be nerfed:
Alisa
Alisa
Alisa
Jacks
Panda/Kuma
Alisa
Alisa
Paul
What exactly is wrong with Alisa?
@@inst_qlchip damage
So they made Kazuya's combos consistent but made Jin's inconsistent to balance it out 😆
Starting to belive its a personal vendetta against devil jin smh
Damn they nerfed jin
TRIPLE ELECTRIC BNB IS BACK I'M SO FUCKING BACK
Its honestly not even good. Sacrifice alot of wall carry for maybe 3-4 points of damage
@@clipCommander101 Probably still more optimal to do double 3,1 cancel but I'll be damned that the triple electric bnb isn't fucking cool
Jeez Kazuyas damage on the wall seems to be crazy now
Jin was balanced. Don't know why they nerf him. What do you think devilster?????
jin is good!
Why they killing Devil Jin's sauce. ☠☠
the reina hate is real
Yeah the grab on the sentai 1 and 2 is a little crazy. What do you do now if someone blocks that powercrush because the only way to get out was scare your opponent with the delay, but now you just gotta take a grab.
Ain't no way they done nerfed the most nerfed Mishima. And they nerfed the MC?! Sad day for Jin
So is devil jin nerfed or buffed overall??
Nerfed. Again.
He's more consistent at the wall, but nerfed slightly overall. Considering he was already very meh, he's bad
Their hate on jin is real...
Reina nerf huh
🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ that heat smash nerf for Jin was not needed all they had to do was nerf the distance it launched you sighhh
1st
How do u parry wid Jin?
It's b1+3 or b2+4
@@umairahmed1235 say nothing luv 🗣️❤️
@@mwaveyysmusic meaning?
@@mwaveyysmusic meaning?
@@umairahmed1235 as in I’m saying luv as thank u it’s not gay
Im so tired of nerfing people or buffing people because of twitter posts. Like have the devs played their game? You should know whats broken or messed up. Lets take a character on life support and nerf him more. Even though it wont affect the whole of the game
Pq eles nerfam tanto o devil jin???? Tinha que nerfar a porcaria do king e da alisa, dois bonecos com gameplay horrível e que tiram muito dano... Agr o Dv Jin é um boneco com gameplay difícil, ele é justo. Mta sacanagem isso
In conclusion: I'm dropping Devil Jin for Kaz
But really though, dvj's nerfs don't make sense 😔
Dorya 💀
Reina desperately needed that nerf
These nerfs were undeserved. It's only because of tmmswe kept biting about it and Tekken Devs have started following his guide. Jins never been a top 10 character. You CBM Book Knee Arsenality execute Jin 110% but always end up at best in top 8. Nowhere near Drag Feng Lilly Nina consistently top 5 levels of strong.
Seethe and cope
Devil Jins was undeserved but Jin? No
See vro he is connected to tekken from very long, it seems obvious why they follow his guide, he promotes it alot, he wants all over cnt extremely broken kazuya back now
basically jin got Nerfed into the ground because of a bunch of cry babies good to know
Bro just leave DVJ alone. 🤦🏽♂️ he’s already bad.
NIPUK JEMBUY
Jin is dead
Well deserved nerfs
I swear to god I never understood why you couldn’t parry heat burst or whatever. It took me so long to understand ur just not allowed to do it it’s unfair to be forced to take that parrying it when u know it’s coming is how it should be