Any ship that can take 19 torpedo and 17+ bomb hits before sinking doesn't have a "fatal design flaw". The Musashi was made of steel, and if you poked enough holes in her she was going down no matter what. The level of punishment she sustained before foundering was enough to have sunk several lesser battleships. I don't believe the Iowas would've stayed afloat with that much damage.
@@Blackmage4001 Back in the interwar period, when Billy Mitchell was advocating himself into a court martial for insubordination, one torpedo advocate said that it's better to let the water in the bottom than to let the air out the top. :D
@@Blackmage4001 designed in an era when US torpedoes were so bad most people considered them useless and probably held similar contempt for the torpedoes of other nations. They were therefore designed to be mostly protected against dive bombers, which were expected to be the main way to attack a ship by the US Navy at the time.
@@Blackmage4001 US battleships had enough guns and escort ships surrounding them that they pretty much didnt need the armor. What torpedo plane is going to drop its torpedo when its just going to get shot down beforehand?
As a Navy sailor myself still active, I have a massive amount of respect for history for both sides of this conflict and the respect these discoverers show to these men. May we all remember history, but move forward together as one brotherhood regardless of the side we are on.
@@nonyabuziness5082 why the vitroil?respect between sailors at sea is the norm.if you have served and i doubt that based on your comments you would understand the wish for peace.
About 12 years ago, i had the pleasure of meeting and speaking with an elderly Filipino man at Sogod, Northern Cebu. This nice gentleman told me of when he was 15yo, he witnessed an attack by American war planes on a Japanese fleet in Sogod Bay. This is the area West of Bohol and Leyte Islands. The man told me he watched from the land at Sogod as the American Bombers destroyed the whole fleet and they are on the bottom of the ocean in the bay. Lest we forget. Robert. New Zealand. ( Veteran Soldier).
Wow…thank you for the time and energy required to present this information. My grandson and granddaughter watched this with me. After the video they got interested in why Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. Their interest allowed me to provide worthwhile history about both Japan and United States. Thank you
Yamato and Musashi were absolutely the two most beautiful and awe inspiring warships ever to be built. With 18.1 inch guns (the largest guns ever to be fitted to a ship), and displacing 73000 tons, they were the largest and most powerful warships to ever to be put to sea.
They were the largest and most powerful battleships ever built, but not the biggest warships. The American supercarriers are considerably larger, while the British supercarriers are broadly comparable in size.
The really interesting concern in a possible encounter between the Yamato and Iowa class battleship was that even with the larger sized weapons on the Yamato's, they were not that much more powerful than the 16"50 cal main weapons on the Iowa class. The size of the projectiles was 3200# for the 18.1" rifles on the Yamato class, vs. 2700# for the 16/50 cal. rifles on the Iowa class. An additional point is that the loading mechanism for the Iowa class was also quicker and could salvo faster than the 18.1s on Yamato (almost a 2:1 ratio if I rerecall correctly. In the end, though, what matters is which ship got the first important hit and where. The Iowa's had a quicker rate of fire. Now, neither one of them could come out of such a donnybrook with a smile for the admirals, but.. the difference was that THAT significant because of the type of rifle (not to mention the speed and radar) of the Iowa's. Besides..... most of the work at that point in the war was done by SBDs and TBFs in the daylight. Well, I forgot the Hell Divers, but my Uncle said they were a bloody pain in the (unmentionable in polite circles!)
Yet Yamato was turned away from the US landing zone by a handful of aircraft flying off the jeep carriers of the Taffy group, plus the courageous crew of a few destroyers. The planes did not have the loadout to pierce Yamato - their role was to support the landings with HE bombs, not armor piercing. There was no battleship within several hours of the landing zone. Kurita lost his nerve, or magnificently chose to avoid the needless loss of life he could have inflicted on a near-defenseless foe, in a war that was already lost. We will never know what he was thinking as he ordered his ships to retreat when they were within minutes of being in range to smash the vulnerable transports and auxiliary ships, and the soldiers ashore at the beach head. The other side of the coin in having 18.1 in. main battery is how those shells could go right through a ship with no armor, leaving behind much less damage than smaller battleship guns might cause. It was the right weapon to fight against any warship, but had too much gun to attack thin-sided transports and auxiliaries.
This is exactly how a complete and interesting documentary about an important historical shipwreck find should be! The use of modern technology to explore and to show the wreck site to the public in all details is done perfectly. In addition here explanations about the findings are added. This is a great video. I expect such an documentary for all of Paul Allen´s finds!
What an amazing ship and an amazing crew. Unimaginable loss of life on both sides. Their scarifies were made to defend their countries. Ordinary people following their orders. So sure that right was on their sides, it would be wonderful to think that lessons were learnt never to let it happen again. Unfortunately l don’t think these lessons have made an impact on the newer generations. Hence some believing that the Holocaust and these huge fights for freedom took place. It’s important that this information is made known to them. The age of all the individuals involved the kids today are still at school. A whole generation across the world in lots of countries gave their lives willingly. May they all rest or live in peace.
Having retired from the U.S. Navy after 21 years and operated with the JDF I know them to to be very capable sailors. The greatest "TRUTH" that is spoken in this presentation, is spoken by Mr. Tsukada, when he spoke of "the emptiness of war." For those of use who have gone to sea for our countries there is great respect for all who have sailed and do so today. As there is no as assurance of a calm sea for our return. EBW USN Ret.
I think of the resources (human and material) that were put toward crazy wars - which could have been put toward positive developments. Solar/alt energy, fusion energy, colonies on the Moon and Mars, .... are just a modicum of what could have been done with those resources.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知： The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!! The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!?,)$
Some people are commenting on "money wasted" to find the ship. Not so. The money was spent on everything from the ship to the paperclips used. Someone had to make all this stuff, miners, truck drivers, electronic technicians who operated the stuff, farmers who grew the food, the list is endless. Because of this one expedition, thousands of people had jobs and were able to buy what they and their families needed. No money was "wasted" it was well spent.
sons, fathers and husbands were lost on this ship...finding the ship could give families closure, so money is only money...its the families that have no closure that is the issue.. :) regardless of nation, they were all young men of both sides who died too early :(
As a descendant of Musashi builder, I would like to thank Paul Allen and his team members for discovering her first. Also, thank you overseas for your interest in this ship.
Paul Allen is a good guy. We are fond in ships, we play WOWS, we watch warship animes, we want to see the real battleships. He used his yacht and subs to take photos for us. RIP Paul, your name lives on with Hood and Musashi. PS: forget about unsinkable, it's just a marketing word.
An amazing story - a tribute to the people who searched for the Musashi, and, against considerable odds, found her. I was touched by the scene at the end, with the service of remembrance and the release of the paper cranes - a beautiful tribute.
In the end, even enemies at war recognize that after the shooting stops, the sea was, is, and will always be the largest problem to deal with for anything afloat, even the biggest battlewagons and carriers.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知： The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!! The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!,?!
I've read many of the reports from this event and you have managed to put it in to a very comprehensive 1 hour video, well done to you and those that worked on it!.
The attack on the IJN Musashi was used later to plan how to attack the IJN Yamato later in the war. It was realized that hitting the Musashi on both sides prolonged the battle by flooding both sides of the hull and preventing it's capsizing. When the USN finally got the chance to attack Yamato they hit her from only one side with torpedoes. It still took an overwhelming aerial armada to take down both ships.
@@Absolut531kmh Yeah? You actually didn't read what he said, right? They did not use the same tactic, because they learnt from the Musashi experience, they used a different tactic. Read it again, please.
Yamato was sent out to do suicide operation. Even ship fuel was not enough to run return back. Its the single trip. Japan high command didn't want her being captured because it presented the emperor navy honoraly. So no need to plan attack them.
There were suppose to be 4 Yamato-Class ships,the Yamato(sunk by Okinawa)the Musashi(you already know) Shinano(what your talking about)and the never-built A-150 sub-class
I am always moved when an expedition to find one of these wrecks conducts services to commemorate the brave souls lost to war. It gives me hope for humanity.
Possible reason of center section blown apart is cold sea water hitting those big hot boilers. I saw trains of a USN supply ship lose her center and keel after grounding
One of the most iconic high ranking figures of the Second World War :Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto said himself “if it floats it will sink !,an unsinkable ship is simply inconceivable!!” .For a second note ,Yamato was his flagship!
Great to have found her and even better to have had the opportunity to unify in a quest to honor her and her men. Like most wars, young men are dragged to the meat mill by egomaniacal leaders, political and military. Incalculable treasure, mountainous natural resources, and of course the human loss...squandered for the vanity of a few. It makes it even more heartening to see citizens of both nations come together to show great respect to those whose lives were thrown away like refuse.
Time after time this happens and nothing is ever learned. Today the "leaders" of most countries / states are just as cynical, psychotic, venal and greedy as ever. The species is fatally flawed.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知： The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!! The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!.?,.
Great video! The history and analysis of the ships flaws and destruction were very interesting. Thank you for sharing this important part of WWII history!
I remember telling my dad, who was on the USS Johnston, that he was one of the few guys alive that knew what it was like to come under fire of the 18" shells of the Yamato. He said he was so busy concentrating on his duties that he was oblivious to it. Plus I've read that the shells likely went right through the hull.
My dad was in 7th fleet, at Leyte on the CVE-70 Fanshaw Bay. It was an aircraft carrier and he was on it for the duration on it's service. He didn't talk about it much. I think I know why, one reason, was because he said they could see something being thrown off onto the rocks in Okinawa. The men found out later that it was parents killing their own children. 😪♥️😪
Yep, 18 inch AP shells punched straight through destroyers which is why the destroyers, inspite of multiple direct hits took next to no damage. The shells were too big and the AP fusing meant they didn't detonate till well out the other side of the ship with too much water between the destroyer and the shell for the shell to do anything.
Your dad was a lucky man to live through that. I believe it was the USS Johnston that fought bravely until it was sunk. The survivors weren't rescued right way either. They were in the water for several days until they were picked up. Many were lost to sharks. So sad. Glad your dad made it.
@@PlatinumIrishrose Just the other day i learned about that too! & how the Japanese army soldiers were NOT there to PROTECT the Okinawans.. (Japanese propaganda & culture was.. Well, 'In-humane' doesn't cut it.) A young (20-ish) year old mother had finished throwing her last/only Child off, only to hear shortly after from Neighbouring villagers the Americans were coming there only to inhibit the precious Airfield-bases. I'm heartbrokenly convinced she never stopped crying.. R.I.P o7
Yeah, unfortunately most of the Cruisers realized the mistake & switched from armor piercing shells to incendiary or whatever other shells that they knew would either damage the ships more, or shrapnel shells that would kill any sailors in the vicinity. And luckily they withdraw. But then they started getting kamikaze attacks not long after. And the kamikaze's did more damage than the Yamato, the largest battleship to ever prowl the Pacific!!..
@@zopEnglandzip It was laid down under the terms of the Second London Naval Treaty, it did cheat a bit and was heavier than it should have been, but it's one think to build a ship a little on the heavy side, it's another thing entirely to build a different class of ship...you can create plausible deniability for the former, but you won't fool anyone with the latter.
@@zopEnglandzip I was extremely surprised (a serious WTF) to read that by far the most effective naval weapon was the pressure triggered naval mine that was sown by bombers in enemy harbors. Both by hit percentage and cheapness, naval minds absolutely destroyed the Japanese navy and merchants. Apparently, the US also had no idea how effective they were, but it makes sense since every ship must go by a harbor, and every mine is always ready to detonate.
If they survive, they will be like the other ship, like prinz eugen and yukikaze from kagero class they are being convert to other navy and used as target practice prinz eugen being used as bomb atom target by US after survive that she towed to kwajalein Atoll to capsize and sank in December 1946. yukikaze after the war end, she getting transfer to Republic of China Navy from Imperial Japanese Navy in 6 July 1947 and being scrapped in 1970, oh man she is the last survivor of kagero class, imagine if all the survivor ship is being convert into museum.
@@streetracer2321 iowa is smaller due to differing design philosophy iowas was designed to be fast and mobile and able to cruice long range and have limited dimension restrictions smaller guns of the iowa have bigger muzzle velocity so it makes up for in speed than raw bulk
It was hit by 19 torpedoes & 17 bombs & still stayed above the surface for 4 hours...it only took 2 torpedoes to send the USS Indianapolis to the bottom of the Philippine Sea...kinda puts things in perspective as to how much larger & heavier the Musashi was...but it also shows that nothing is unsinkable...if it floats, it can sink...
In WW II only Tirpitz and Bismark were unsinkable (almost). Bismark alone fought for hours with several British battleships and at the end ran out of ammunition and the crew scuttled her. Tirpitz had the record of the highest number of aerial attacks on a single ship and in the end, Brits used 5 ton bombs to penetrate her armored deck. Even 500 kg bombs were not enough to penetrate her deck armor.
The rivets seem to be the issue when it came to the armor When Yamato capsized, the ammunition left in its main batteries exploded, so some of the damage could be explained pretty easily if you think about it
Wow, how this thing opens. "How did the unsinkable ship go down so fast?" Really? Was it the 17+ bombs, or the 19+ torpedos that were surpsingly "fast" at sinking this ship? Musashi actually escaped combat under her own power, but came nowhere near close enough to land to run aground and save herself. Japan had lost too many pilots by the time this battle happened, and could not train to recover. The US had the other side of the coin, building fleets of carriers and fully staffing and stocking them. Throughout the war, Japan suffered from an irrational fear of committing capitol ships to a fight, the force at Midway could have run over the top of the US force, but they ran off because of the carrier losses. By the time Japan decided to stand and fight, the US had them outgunned in the air by a fair margin. The war in general, the Japanese captains and command made every "worst" decision at the time possible, and it led to them wasting their precious fuel resources moving ships all over and not actually fighting, and eventually waiting so long the big ships became obsolete because there were no carriers to support.
@@JacobGrim Anything is possible, but IMO poking the US before solidifying control elsewhere was a huge blunder. Hindsight is always 20/20, but the way Americans felt about pretty much anything in the Pacific at that time, Japan could have taken over the entire Pacific and likely parts of South America and US citizens would have ignored them. Minus Pearl Harbor of course. Even if all they did was secure and build up their own supplies from their takeover of the island nations between Japan and Aus. they would have had a better chance. I think, personally, they could have taken over all of china and India and the islands and the US would have left them alone for 20 years, only paying attention if Australia was threatened at that time. Basically, Japan could have been the other world power, but they decided to poke the bear with a stick instead. But that is speculation of course also.
The industrial mite, abundance of raw materials, converting American Industry to a war time footing creates a endless supply of war material. The abundance of well trained American pilots sealed the deal
Japan if u look at the nation is about the size of California.. they had to reach out an take over other land in order to fule their war time efforts. But America had everything they needed in their own back yard. I think this was a disadvantage for japan. They had to move in an take over lands rich with oil as well as natural resources their small country didnt have like the United states had in abundance. This is why Yamamoto said what he did about the sleeping giant.. he knew if they wasnt successful in knocking the big guy on the block out with one punch? It would spell disaster for japan. An he was correct in his assumption. Industrial might comes from resources like what America brought to bare from all parts of its mass of land, man power, an industrial might. Natural resources was the straw that broke japans back. The same thing happend to hitler when he dove into Russia.. he over extended an paid the price because his war machine was stretched out to far with no meat to keep his amys fed. Germany i dont think is much bigger than the state of oklahoma. These tiny country's had to reach out an fight to take over what they used to do what they did. It cost them big time as well. That an the fact their leaders was stupid .. cause they bit off more than they could chew.
@@wideawake7071 You are correct. Thing with japan is, they could have taken over all the islands between them and Australia, and over towards India, and the US likely would have left them be as we were busy in Europe. It might have turned into something later after England was upset and wanted back their stuff, but even that would have been to Japan's advantage because they could have stockpiled and expanded their forces. The one place japan could have gone and gotten zero international pushback was China. In general though, expansionist idealists want to see the fruits of their ambitions before they are dead because ultimately the whole prospect is driven by their greed and selfishness. There are a lot of current events going on that fit this also, but thats a different video.
So a single bi-plane can fly over the entire enemy fleet and drop thousands of sticky notes that read "UNSINKABLE!" and the fleet is screwed? That actually might work.
The thing is, alot of ships were though unsinkable, but by 1945 japan still though in this idea when operation Ten-go was underway, wanting to beach Yamato, but eventually sunked before it could be rendered unsinkable.
A lot of these so-called WWII "documentaries" are as much drama as anything else. The superiority of naval air-power over surface ships was proven tentatively at Pearl Harbor and definitively 3 days later in the South China Sea when Prince of Wales and Repulse were sunk. There were many carrier battles from those early days until Leyte Gulf that only reinforced the point.
While that would have been interesting, I’m glad they didn’t take anything from Musashi. She’s a war grave and everything should be left as is out of respect
@@ryanp5790 A large majority of shipwrecks are the gravesites of sailors, yet many are scavenged. What's the difference between a 500 year old sunk vessel and a 76 year old sunk vessel? Living memory and ethics. The same people that scavenge warships of yore are a bit hypocritical saying a more recent ship is off limits because there are people that still remember it. The film is arguably far more important than scavenging parts of the ship, it could give additional insight into the crew and the ship. It could also be delivered to the family of said sailor(s) that took them.
@@GGigabiteM just because the majority are wrongfully scavenged doesn’t mean it’s right to scavenge another. A grave of a young man who was killed in war should be respected with the upmost respect just like any other grave. We know what happened to Musashi, there’s other sources that point to what happened. If they found a blueprint or something of the sort I don’t see much of an issue. But I think personal belongings should stay with the men who lost their lives
Battleship sailors are a different breed of fighter. I was fortunate enough serve on one of ours (BB-64), and I tip my hat to our counter parts, in past Naval conflicts.
The Japanese knew from the start of the Pacific war that heavy surface units without air cover were extremely vulnerable to combined aircraft bombing and torpedo attacks. After Pearl Harbour the Japanese airforce dispatched HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Repulse with the same tactics that the Americans used to sink both of the largest Battleships ever built.
Even before Musashi was discovered, I owned Akira Yoshimura's book, 'Build the Musashi', and played that game, Silent Service II, and watched Starblazers, (Uchuu Senkan Yamato), Space Battleship Yamato, in Japanese. Musashi lead an intriguing life, while the battleship was being constructed, blueprints went missing, and the Japanese Navy even went to the extreme to hire a clairvoyant to help search for the missing documents. After Musashi left the slipway, the screen protecting her from the eyes of Nagasaki, caught on fire. The crew named her the Palace, but was spooked when Yamamoto, and Koga died while they where CinC, and both put their flag on her. After that, they thought Musashi was cursed. After Musashi was sunk, some of the survivors where transported on the carrier Junyo. The Japanese Navy kept her sinking a secret, and had her survivors isolated while fighting, when more lost their lives. With great effort, and interest, co-founder of Microsoft, Paul G. Allen, helped fund for her discovery. Another great testimony for all who are closing these undersea chapters, in naval, and maritime history. Take care, and all the best.
@Christopher Snyder They did a great job on "Space Battleship Yamato 2199" The Re-Worked Story, Animation, Graphic Effects, and Musical Score were all Top Notch
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知： The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!! The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!?,?!?
I was astounded to hear that Musashi wasn't designed to endure torpedo hits which I find ironic as the IJN had in its arsenal the "Long Lance", which was not only an excellent weapon, but one they used with tremendous effect in numerous battles with the Allied navies. Yet, she was slammed by 19 torpedoes before sinking.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知： The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!! The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !
The IJN were understandably incredibly dismissive of earlier US torpedos. Their fatal flaw was SOME of the IJN high command didn’t think the US would / could learn and improve them.
Unsinkable was one adjective offered not only to Yamato/Musashi, but Prince of Wales and Bismarck. There cannot be unsinkable warships nor invincible armies.
Dang, I was kinda feeling sorry for them, except my dad was on the shore at Tacloban. If the Admiral hadn't turned around, there's a good chance my Dad and his whole family wouldn't be here. War sucks.
“...the biggest battleship ever built...” And obsolete before she was launched. Shinano wasn’t even completed as a battleship, she was converted as a (unusable) carrier.
Nope, she was far from obsolete, just as the American Iowa-class wasn’t yet obsolete. Yamato and Musashi could’ve inflicted horrendous losses on the US Navy if they had been used more aggressively earlier in the war. Carriers had become more important, but battleships still filled a critical role in WW2.
@@Cailus3542 During the Guadalcanal campaign, Yamato and Musashi could have turned Henderson Feild into dust, sink several cruisers and destroyers on November 10th, and sink the American battleships South Dakota and Washington during the 15th of November.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知： The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!! The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!! Some collectors have collect old models of sailing ships ⛵️ into a small clear bottles. I was wondering whether the battleship Musashi can also also put into a bottle. If it was possible then we will call it a Bottled Battleship LOL😆 😂 🤭 !!!!
I am from a Navy Family. This touched me. My Grandfather was on the Midway but she was sunk as the USS St.Lo. Most of my older surviving family are still there. Panama City. I will not name the base. Thank you for sharing this very informative dig into Naval warfare. Were going to need such logic. Thanks again. Doc
Your not going to find it. However, Tyndall. Where my Grandfather got another Purple Heart in the air. No one even understands. Theres enough fuel there to launch everything. There are subs refueling right there. There is no base, because its underwater.
Its never been a secret. The bowl of Geography of the Gulf of Mexico. They knew in the 50's. Best guess there are over 50 subs sitting and waiting. And if you defend that strong, might as well refuel everything right there. This bull that type Shark class Titanium Russian Akula class snuck in is bogus bs.
We tracked them as they entered, and as they left. Most people think we protect Norfolk. Yes we do. But the Gulf of Mexico is forbidden zone. You show up you will be sunk within minutes
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知： The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!! The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!?.??(
15:47 The Mark 13 torpedo, designed by the Bureau of Ordnance, together with its bigger brothers, the Mark 14 for submarines and the Mark 15 for surface ships, was dreadful though most of the war. It's the same torpedo carried by Torpedo 8 when it was wiped out at Midway without any hits, and the same torpedo that PT boats used at Surigao Strait without any hits.
HAHAHAHAHAHA, is that what the propaganda has finally come to about Suriago? "The battleships won!!". Lordy, the PT boats swarmed the Japanese ships, which couldn't turn, at all, and at some points in the straight had less then 10 feet of room below them, oh yeah, I am sure they all missed! I love the story as much as the next guy, how the resurected BB's got their revenge! But that was a propaganda story to bolster moral at home and discourage Japan. I have watched this story, this narative, slowly change from veteran's accounts of how the PT boats were crucial, to how they were just there for fire support and distraction and got a few hits in, to now.... where they were spectators to the great BB victory of the US. It is true, history is written by the victors, and as time goes on the story is sensationalized over and over by internet experts until it resembles the telephone game. Dear lord, 50 years from now the Japanese captains will have commit battleship Seppuku out of plain fear of the approaching might of the US Navy.
@@davenhla Actually it was destroyer torpedoes that did the most damage, sinking the Fuso and crippling the Mogami before they got in range of the battleships. It was notably ironic. The 1914 edition of Jane's Fighting Ships had a front plate with a builder's model of the Fuso, first battleship to be armed with a dozen 14-inch guns. She was a great favorite of newsreels. But neither she never fired against another ship. Only one ship from Nishimura's fleet survived, Shigure, the "Immortal Destroyer", commanded by Tameichi Hara, who survived the war and wrote a memoir. The ship got a reputation as a Jonah because this was not the only battle where it was the sole survivor. She was sunk by a submarine later in the war, after Hara took command of a cruiser--which was sunk out from under him along with Yamato. The English title of his book is "Japanese Destroyer Captain". I read it in high school more than fifty years ago.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知： The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!! The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!):?!
I love how they talk about musashi as the most important ship and she was important and some of the pride it mainly was Yamato the first in her class that had the most pride and was the main flagship of the Japanese navy
Actually...you would be wrong. Musashi and Yamato were ships of the Yamato-class...but Musashi was the lead ship and Admiral Yamamoto's flagship. For all their lauded power, Yamato was sadly given the nickname "Hotel Yamato" because she spent more time transporting sailors from one port to another than she ever saw combat. She saw very few actual engagements that would showcase what the Yamato-class ships could actually do, but when she did finally get to show her teeth it was too late. But the Battle for Okinawa displayed the level of punishment that she could take, much like Musashi did. And she did indeed go down swinging. 15+ torpedo hits and 30+ aerial bombs before one punched through the upper deck and hit the #1 battery magazine and blew her wide open.
@@scottycarter5535 Ummm....wrong. She spent most of her life as I said, ferrying troops from one port to another. I did a 20-page research paper on her in college. Trust me...everything I read over 7 historical accounts said the same thing. Few engagements, lots of ferrying. And the only time Admiral Yamamoto's flag was raised on Yamato was after Musashi sank at the Battle of Leyte Gulf.
@@technewsfortechnoobs yea same the Yamato became the flag ship after the sinking of the musashi. They both were sunk tho, and both put up one hell of a damn fight.
this was before the age of lawsuits.. in modern terms, it would be called "the unsinkable* ship!" *note: unsinkable status is only guaranteed up to around a dozen direct torpedo or heavy bomb hits to the hull or lower decks. seaworthiness is not guaranteed after ship is engulfed in flames and has been hit by more than 12 ship killing bombs.
It should be remembered that Musashi was not the only warship lost from that task force. Admiral Kurita Takeo had to shift his Flag to the Yamato after his own Flagship, the cruiser Atago was sunk out from under him earlier by submarine USS Darter. I think this event and then the destruction of Musashi shook him badly, perhaps messed up his thinking so that when Yamato and the rest of his Center Force attacked the light forces of 'Taffy Three,' the fierce and damaging resistance put up by a bare handful of destroyers and destroyer escorts caused him to think that he was engaging some of the much heavier cruisers and carriers of Halsey's Third Fleet, making him think he should withdraw or face the total destruction of his force by Halsey. Of course today we know better. Halsey and the bulk of his fleet were off station, chasing down the decoy Northern Force. There was nothing between Kurita and the Philippine invasion force except the escort carriers and destroyers of the Seventh Fleet. Admiral Oldendorf and his battleship force was too far away and too slow (mostly 21 knot Pearl Harbor survivors) to intercept, plus they were short of the armor piercing ammo they would need since they had fought a battle the night before, sinking the battleship Yamashiro. The destruction of Musashi and subsequent maneuvers by Kurita had American commanders believing Center Force was withdrawing after receiving a bloody nose, not advancing through San Bernardino Strait into Leyte Gulf and the Battle Off Samar.
"The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors", by James D. Hornfischer, is on my to-be-read list. www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/82865/the-last-stand-of-the-tin-can-sailors-by-james-d-hornfischer/
THE WORLD WONDERS :D It's always been the greatest "what-if" argument - What if Halsey had listened to Lee and left even some of his battleships patrolling the entrance to San Bernadino Strait? Lee could've crossed Kurita's T with massed 16" fire as each Japanese ship emerged from the strait, and used their superior speed and better fire control to dictate the ensuing engagement.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知： The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!! The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!,,??
Great Film. Only slight criticism I would make is that Yamato sinking two US aircraft carriers in that battle should be mentioned. Although the tide had turned against the Battleship, the US Navy were still using them in the 1990's. It is interesting how we tend to associate a technological superiority to both the Germans and the Japanese, when all of their "unsinkable" ships lie on the bottom of the sea. I think it is right that the men who died fighting the ship to its end should be respected.
The morale of the story: Never call a ship unsinkable Edit: When I finally see her full wreck image, my heart totally sank, seeing her completely mangled.
FYI: *Morale:* _noun_ An emotional or mental condition with respect to cheerfulness, confidence, etc. ex.: The Troops were happy, their morale was high. *Moral:* _noun_ The moral teaching or practical lesson contained in a fable, tale, experience, etc. ex.: The fable of the turtle and the rabbit demonstrated the moral of the story: Slow and steady wins the race. You're welcome. Happy to help.
@@vndnlle6312 no they were actually legitimately top secret, they were build in giant sheds and the workers were given a gag order with the punishment of family extermination if they divulged what they were working on. When it became obvious that Japan was likely to lose the war 99% of all files pictures and blueprints on the ships where destroyed, hell for almost 50 years it was believed that the only surviving images of the ships where those taken by the aircraft that sunk them. This battleships where a secret almost as secretive as the manhattan project.
The unsinkable battleship question was answered in May of 1941 with DKM Bismarck. If the USN was in a sporting mood, they could have had a classic gun battle with all 4 Iowa class BBs and sunk the Japanese fleet that way. But the Jutland era was over.
I wonder why the magazine explosion (if the case) did not blow up the missing turret's well instead of opening up the hull like a nut: in the exact same situation, with the B turret magazine exploding, Battleship Roma had his whole 7k ton main turret (a light cruiser by WWII standard) assembly blowed up in the air for hundreds of meters and yet it kept afloat for more the 30 minutes. The only thing that comes to my mind is that the ship being capsizing may have forced the explosion against the still present turret which was pushing against the water compresing the gasses upward into the hull, but then, how much more compressed should have the explosion in Roma be with a whole turret assembly held down by gravity?
It was a forward magazine explosion that destroyed the Arizona. When that ship's magazine exploded the barbet (foundation) of the #1 Turret was destroyed though the turret gun house itself survived as a recognizable structure and rests on what remains of the ship's keel there. #2 barbet was damaged but continues to support the turret gun house. The roof of the turret was removed to allow removal and salvage of the 14" guns. Musashi's internal design allowed the blast of the forward magazine to travel back into the midship spaces, blowing them apart as well as wrecking everything around and inside the magazine.
In addition to @Robert F's explanation, water cannot be compressed as air can. Meaning, while the force of the blasts on the Roma and Arizona were able to be vented to the exterior of the ship and the blast pressure absorbed by the air around them, the blast on the Musashi would have taken the path of least resistance - back into the hull as opposed to the exterior.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知： The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!! The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!(;?!
Do you know how far you control an artillery shell? From the breech to the muzzle. After passing from the barrel, the shell goes somewhere, most often somewhere where the target is not at when the shell arrives.. Missiles are the present and future for weapons. Also, everything costs and battleships cost almost so much to operate, there is too little bang for the huge amount of bucks that are required to operate them.
@@usamwhambam You didn't get his point. He said sail not fight it's difference beacuse even tho Japan and Germany were bad guys in WW2 both Bismarck and Yamato or Mushashi were well build ships and astonishing in their time which should at least make you respetfull for the mashines they were. That is why on Tank fest Tiger is biggest attraction. Not beacuse it was fantastic but it deserved respect for the guys that build them.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知： The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!! The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!(;??,
The only thing I have issue with is saying musashi wasn’t designed to take torpedo hits or hits to the deck from bombs. The Japanese were early adopters of using carriers as an attack force and knew exactly what the capabilities of carrier aviation were. She had torpedo defence, air defence and deck armour. No warship was designed to take absolute beatings because if that were case a battleship would weigh closer to 200,000 tons to withstand massive attacks.
Regarding the author giving credit to the "Destroyers" for turning the Center force back after the successful entry to Leyte Gulf, that is only part of the story. Not taking any credit away from the brave sailors in the Destroyers and Destroyer Escorts which faced the Center Force at Leyte Gulf, but the Escort Carriers did a great job with very little to fight with. Their aircraft mostly were armed with 100 pound HE bombs and .50 BMGs, yet they made run after run at even the Yamato, even making "attack" runs when their ammunition was expended. It has been standard history that Admiral Kurita believed that with the number of aircraft and Carriers and escort ships (DDs and DEs) that he had run into the Third Fleet and he retired.
The success of Taffy 3 was also because Kurita bungled his escorts. He had plenty of destroyers to screen his capital ships, but he made a huge error in positioning them in the wrong place. If not for that incompetence, the Japanese would have won Leyte Gulf.
Everything is still in the same general area. Showing that it detonated on impact with the Sea bed. The shock wave went through the burning powder causing it to detonate which sent a shock wave through the ammunition which had been preheated and it went off all at once. That's why it's all at one place.
I wonder if they've ever looked into underwater drones that sniff instead of look or scan. A large amount of metal or wood from a good sized shipwreck would be constantly releasing particles into the surrounding water, a drone with onboard particle filters could sieve out and analyse for metal or wood residue.
when gunpowder is in an inclosed space like a shell or a barrel witch it was in the ship it will detonate leading to the ship blowing in half .if it is out in lets say a room in would defligrate meaning it just burns with no shockwave or explosion and they do still use gunpowder, high explosive is just the type of round that has been flung out the end of the barrel at somthing
@@excommunicate1314 - I stand by what I said previously. Yes gunpower wrapped tightly in paper will explode with localized force but they are called fire works or fire crackers. Spelling, it is enclosed not inclosed and its which not witch (Harry Potter and pals).
@@decommissionedchannel3188 - yes HE, is a type of round because it contains HE. There are other rounds like MESH, mainly in tanks, that also do damage. The use of target does not make sense in the sentence.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知： The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!! The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!! Some collectors have collect old models of sailing ships ⛵️ into a small clear bottles. I was wondering whether the battleship Musashi can also also put into a bottle. If it was possible then we will call it a Bottled Battleship LOL😆 😂 🤭 !!!! The captain of the Battleship Yamato was eating Yams 🍠 while his battleship was sunk. While the captain 👨🏼✈️ of Battleship Okinawa said, “Okay!! 👍 👌” when his battleship was sunk. The Japanese are crazy!?,!’
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知： The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!! The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!! Some collectors have collect old models of sailing ships ⛵️ into a small clear bottles. I was wondering whether the battleship Musashi can also also put into a bottle. If it was possible then we will call it a Bottled Battleship LOL😆 😂 🤭 !!!!
Outstanding video. Thanks so much for sharing this with us all! It is such a great tragedy that one of these massive, beautiful, powerful warships did not survive the war and end up as a museum. While I know that could never have happened for a variety of reasons, if ever a ship should have been preserved, one of the Yamato's should have been preserved. They were the pinnacle of battleship design and technology. While the video talks a good bit about design flaws, no ship ever built could be expected to take 19 torpedoes and remain on the surface, for pity's sake. Lol. I'm very glad that we never had to discover how many torpedoes it took to put an Iowa class battleship on the bottom of the ocean!
No I know why War veterans do not talk about war. Like my father. He's seen enough World War II Northern Burma, Calcutta , India going through two bouts of malaria. Going into war as a US Army Private , a volunteer Merrill's Marauder. Disrupting Japan's supply lines in Burma. Going on so many Campaigns . Coming back as a Staff Sergeant . For Brigadier General 'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell . My father always told me the same thing . How did he come out of the War. He always said, he shot at everything that moved in front of him. Then there was a guy in Cleveland , Ohio. Making bullets for him. Now you see what I mean. He did not want to talk about what he experienced. Like most Armed Forces Veterans
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知： The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!! The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!,?!!
My father was a fighter pilot in world war II at a New Guinea. He had a great respect for the men of the Japanese Air corps that he fought against he said they were excellent pilots and ferocious fighters. He had a saying my enemies made me a better fighter.
The bigger they come the harder and faster they fall.If only the film footage found on the ocean floor was salvageable it would hold priceless footage of its last moments.
Maybe it is? Or some of it perhaps. Not too great odds of that I reckon though. But hey worth a shot maybe? And damn it! I was waiting for them to get back to that film after they discovered it in the doc a bit later on. I was hoping and crossing all my fingers and toes that it would be a major plot point reveal!😃 But in wasn't to be..😧😟
Heartening to see the respect the Japanese & American survivors have for each other. Those who actually do the fighting in conflicts know that their "enemy" experiences the exact same thing as they do, & that creates a very common human bond. The "enemy" often becomes seen as a "brother in arms".
BIGGEST... MOST... they just sink at a faster rate... really appreciate your willingness to throughly get to the bottom of this story... we all need to see the folly of war and the cost of courage.
Unfortunately for the likes of Yamato/Musashi and Bismark/Tirpitz: Whilst the pinnacle of design, they came out just as the day of the battleship was over. Like Bull's supergun their time was over as the steel for them was coming out of the furnace. Magnificent things all the same.
I had read many years ago about the defects in Yamato's armor, discovered after she took a torpedo. This explanation makes tremendous sense. A strange twist of fate, another unsinkable ship suffered rivet failures, the Titanic.
@@rolandosantaana8200 titanic had another issue with her rivets. Sulfur contamination of the metal in the rivets. This made them extremely brittle in cold water.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知： The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!! The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!,;(!
Great documentary. The big issue for the IJN with the Yamato class ships, was damage control. The USN had a major advantage in that aspect. If Musashi's officers had trained more on how to remedy the flooding and fires, she likely could have lasted longer in combat.
After nearly two dozen torpedoes a dozen heavy bomb hits, plus fires in the hull and superstructure? She MIGHT have lasted longer, but not have survived.
We'll never know as the day in age of the batleship was over. Who knows how Yamato would have stood up against the 4 Iowa's...... or even the combined guns of them and the 4 South Dakota's..... Always interesting to think of
I agree. I wish Paul Allen had told them in 2011, "if you find something interesting, go ahead and spend a day exploring it. Otherwise, you'll not have the chance to learn any lessons from deploying the ROV.
@@johnludlum9460 forget it, that thing weighed nearly as much as the iowa but had only marginally better armor and much less powerful guns the only reason the british feared it was of its superb fire control and that they did not have adequate ships to counter in in the north presently
@@metaknight115 how so?? the efficiency of the german crew when straddling the hood with relatively decent fire control systems meant she landed a hit that incapacitated her does that mean shes the best? no because even a ship such as the nagato would be more than a match for the bismarck. if you took the time to study other navies like the regia marina, IJN or USN then you would know how hopelessly outclassed bismarck is tell me then what is completely false, enlighten me
No, battleships weren’t obsolete. That’s a historical misconception. They were no longer the premier capital ships afloat, but they still filled a crucial role.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知： The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!! The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!! Some collectors have collect old models of sailing ships ⛵️ into a small clear bottles. I was wondering whether the battleship Musashi can also also put into a bottle. If it was possible then we will call it a Bottled Battleship LOL😆 😂 🤭 !
Great documentary, historically , technically and emotionally . And with a very sober narrative , which is not often the case with American documentaries . Thank you.
Everyone seems to forget that the Japanese had their battleships custom designed and built by the British prior to the start of WWII. It's no wonder they could take such punishment.
@@JMHTruck32005 True, but they sure as hell are annoying. There's nothing worse than getting attacked by something you can't see and retaliate against.
The Musashi in WOWS is the initial AA layout of the Yamato class when they first launched. By 1944, she had a lot more AA, but still not as much as 1945 Yamato. Either way, their 25mm AA guns were way inferior to our 40mm.
The reason it might be far away from the expected sinking location is the engines might have been still running and pushed the battleship further than it should've been.
I was surprised to hear them talk about armor piercing bombs because most of the bombs dropped on Mushashi were contact bombs...the wrong type for attacking a naval ship.
I know that the Escort Carriers which faced the Japanese Center force later only had their planes equipped with HE because they were supporting the landings. But the planes from the Fleet Carriers had enough time to arm with AP bombs, and I've never heard that the mission against Musashi didn't have AP bombs. In fact I have read that the SB2C-3s were equipped with either 500 or 1000 pound AP bombs. So if anyone has a source for that being wrong, I'd appreciate it.
The point is that with air power and submarines, ship to ship battles were a thing of the past. The Musashi never got close enough to an enemy ship to use its big guns...even the Yamato didn't have much luck in the Leyte Gulf battle. Admiral Yamamoto himself said that the Yamato and Musashi were one of the greatest follies of mankind, like the Great Wall Of China and the Egyptian Pyramids. A totally useless waste .
I could mention that Yamato ran away from Taffy 3, but the blame for that lies in Admiral Kurita, not Yamato. Yamato displayed impressive gunnery, sinking or helping to sink 3 of the 4 ships lost, and damaging several others
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知： The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!! The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!! Some collectors have collect old models of sailing ships ⛵️ into a small clear bottles. I was wondering whether the battleship Musashi can also also put into a bottle. If it was possible then we will call it a Bottled Battleship LOL😆 😂 🤭 !!!!
Did the Japanese audience not see the end of King Kong? Funny thing that destroyer was sunk by planes. Kinda' ironic. because of it's enormous size, it couldn't outmaneuver 20 torpedoes and high altitude dive bombers that can strafe the decks and take out the comms. These ships were designed to fight enemy ships not an air assault. The fatal flaw was the high value the Japanese command put on these vessels as a strategic and tactical juggernaut.
What I find ironic is the Japanese Naval command described the Musashi as "King Kong". And what killed KingKong? Lots of little airplanes .
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So true
It was beauty killed the beast!
Foreshadowing lol
Maybe the man who used that comparison never watched the film to the ending!
Any ship that can take 19 torpedo and 17+ bomb hits before sinking doesn't have a "fatal design flaw". The Musashi was made of steel, and if you poked enough holes in her she was going down no matter what. The level of punishment she sustained before foundering was enough to have sunk several lesser battleships. I don't believe the Iowas would've stayed afloat with that much damage.
They wouldn't of. Infact the Iowa's are considered to have inadequate torpedo protection.
@@Blackmage4001 Back in the interwar period, when Billy Mitchell was advocating himself into a court martial for insubordination, one torpedo advocate said that it's better to let the water in the bottom than to let the air out the top. :D
@@Blackmage4001 designed in an era when US torpedoes were so bad most people considered them useless and probably held similar contempt for the torpedoes of other nations.
They were therefore designed to be mostly protected against dive bombers, which were expected to be the main way to attack a ship by the US Navy at the time.
@@mrz80 wait, that's corruption!
@@Blackmage4001 US battleships had enough guns and escort ships surrounding them that they pretty much didnt need the armor.
What torpedo plane is going to drop its torpedo when its just going to get shot down beforehand?
As a Navy sailor myself still active, I have a massive amount of respect for history for both sides of this conflict and the respect these discoverers show to these men. May we all remember history, but move forward together as one brotherhood regardless of the side we are on.
...DREAM ON- EVIL EXISTS IN THIS WORLD, AND YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT!!!
well said.
@@nonyabuziness5082 why the vitroil?respect between sailors at sea is the norm.if you have served and i doubt that based on your comments you would understand the wish for peace.
You're a wise man 🙂
until shlomo takes your house
About 12 years ago, i had the pleasure of meeting and speaking with an elderly Filipino man at Sogod, Northern Cebu. This nice gentleman told me of when he was 15yo, he witnessed an attack by American war planes on a Japanese fleet in Sogod Bay. This is the area West of Bohol and Leyte Islands. The man told me he watched from the land at Sogod as the American Bombers destroyed the whole fleet and they are on the bottom of the ocean in the bay. Lest we forget. Robert. New Zealand. ( Veteran Soldier).
I'll bet that Filipino man enjoyed every minute of it considering what the Japanese did to his country.
Every time they say a major ship is Unsinkable it ends up at the bottom.
That's because they do not know the size hole a half ton of TORPEX will make believe me it's big
Maybe they should say "The most likely to stay afloat in a perfect scenario"?
@@michaelnaisbitt1590 L
Yeah, that and a grammar Nazi makes a grammatical error correcting someone.
@@michaelnash1067 I'd just call it tough to sink.
Wow…thank you for the time and energy required to present this information. My grandson and granddaughter watched this with me. After the video they got interested in why Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. Their interest allowed me to provide worthwhile history about both Japan and United States. Thank you
Yamato and Musashi were absolutely the two most beautiful and awe inspiring warships ever to be built. With 18.1 inch guns (the largest guns ever to be fitted to a ship), and displacing 73000 tons, they were the largest and most powerful warships to ever to be put to sea.
They were the largest and most powerful battleships ever built, but not the biggest warships. The American supercarriers are considerably larger, while the British supercarriers are broadly comparable in size.
Beauty and awe do not count in a battle. The larger the target, the easier it is to hit it.
The really interesting concern in a possible encounter between the Yamato and Iowa class battleship was that even with the larger sized weapons on the Yamato's, they were not that much more powerful than the 16"50 cal main weapons on the Iowa class. The size of the projectiles was 3200# for the 18.1" rifles on the Yamato class, vs. 2700# for the 16/50 cal. rifles on the Iowa class. An additional point is that the loading mechanism for the Iowa class was also quicker and could salvo faster than the 18.1s on Yamato (almost a 2:1 ratio if I rerecall correctly. In the end, though, what matters is which ship got the first important hit and where. The Iowa's had a quicker rate of fire. Now, neither one of them could come out of such a donnybrook with a smile for the admirals, but.. the difference was that THAT significant because of the type of rifle (not to mention the speed and radar) of the Iowa's. Besides..... most of the work at that point in the war was done by SBDs and TBFs in the daylight. Well, I forgot the Hell Divers, but my Uncle said they were a bloody pain in the (unmentionable in polite circles!)
Yet Yamato was turned away from the US landing zone by a handful of aircraft flying off the jeep carriers of the Taffy group, plus the courageous crew of a few destroyers. The planes did not have the loadout to pierce Yamato - their role was to support the landings with HE bombs, not armor piercing. There was no battleship within several hours of the landing zone. Kurita lost his nerve, or magnificently chose to avoid the needless loss of life he could have inflicted on a near-defenseless foe, in a war that was already lost. We will never know what he was thinking as he ordered his ships to retreat when they were within minutes of being in range to smash the vulnerable transports and auxiliary ships, and the soldiers ashore at the beach head.
The other side of the coin in having 18.1 in. main battery is how those shells could go right through a ship with no armor, leaving behind much less damage than smaller battleship guns might cause. It was the right weapon to fight against any warship, but had too much gun to attack thin-sided transports and auxiliaries.
@@markl4673 who asked?
This is exactly how a complete and interesting documentary about an important historical shipwreck find should be! The use of modern technology to explore and to show the wreck site to the public in all details is done perfectly. In addition here explanations about the findings are added. This is a great video. I expect such an documentary for all of Paul Allen´s finds!
This is a Documentary to be proud of... Have you watched Drachinfel? I highly recommend it.
@@MrArtbv n predictability
@@danvu3405 what's this 'predictability?
Wikipedia had a edit war to hide Yamato sinking itself
What an amazing ship and an amazing crew. Unimaginable loss of life on both sides. Their scarifies were made to defend their countries. Ordinary people following their orders. So sure that right was on their sides, it would be wonderful to think that lessons were learnt never to let it happen again. Unfortunately l don’t think these lessons have made an impact on the newer generations. Hence some believing that the Holocaust and these huge fights for freedom took place. It’s important that this information is made known to them. The age of all the individuals involved the kids today are still at school. A whole generation across the world in lots of countries gave their lives willingly. May they all rest or live in peace.
That warship did not "fail" at all, it fought the best it could until it no longer could...R.I.P. ship & crew
Having retired from the U.S. Navy after 21 years and operated with the JDF I know them to to be very capable sailors. The greatest "TRUTH" that is spoken in this presentation, is spoken by Mr. Tsukada, when he spoke of "the emptiness of war." For those of use who have gone to sea for our countries there is great respect for all who have sailed and do so today. As there is no as assurance of a calm sea for our return. EBW USN Ret.
I think of the resources (human and material) that were put toward crazy wars - which could have been put toward positive developments. Solar/alt energy, fusion energy, colonies on the Moon and Mars, .... are just a modicum of what could have been done with those resources.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知：
The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!!
The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!?,)$
Some people are commenting on "money wasted" to find the ship. Not so. The money was spent on everything from the ship to the paperclips used. Someone had to make all this stuff, miners, truck drivers, electronic technicians who operated the stuff, farmers who grew the food, the list is endless.
Because of this one expedition, thousands of people had jobs and were able to buy what they and their families needed. No money was "wasted" it was well spent.
sons, fathers and husbands were lost on this ship...finding the ship could give families closure, so money is only money...its the families that have no closure that is the issue.. :)
regardless of nation, they were all young men of both sides who died too early :(
Same old excuse they also make so wasting money on military sound right.....
@@Triggernlfrl You must be fun at the funeral... just saying.
It also provides loads of important historical information and brings once opposing nations closer together.
69.420 IQ Comment.
As a descendant of Musashi builder, I would like to thank Paul Allen and his team members for discovering her first. Also, thank you overseas for your interest in this ship.
I would have enjoyed talking with your relative. You are a fortunate person to have known him.
Doumo arigato gozaimasu. The Musashi and Yamato were beautiful ships and valiant in battle.
@@tinachandler3091 Yammy wasn’t really valiant
@@CallofDutyBlackOps2010 in certain ways, they were
@@tinachandler3091 eh it wasn’t much more than a floating hotel that shot her guns once or twice at tiny ships 1/35th of her weight
It was a beautiful ship with long, graceful lines.. Too bad it did not survive and become a museum ship..
It should be since the Japanese had their battleships custom designed and built by the British prior to WWII.
Key to ship designing, NEVER CALL A SHIP UNSINKABLE!!!
British formidable flashback
call it disgustingly weak
We are confident this ship will float in water without holes in the hull.
@Cursedhotdog Bismarck : aw that cute
Instead, call it SINKABLE
Excellent..my dad is a Leyte survivor......he loved the the country and its people ..RIP Dad! RIP to all who served !
Paul Allen is a good guy. We are fond in ships, we play WOWS, we watch warship animes, we want to see the real battleships. He used his yacht and subs to take photos for us. RIP Paul, your name lives on with Hood and Musashi.
PS: forget about unsinkable, it's just a marketing word.
An amazing story - a tribute to the people who searched for the Musashi, and, against considerable odds, found her. I was touched by the scene at the end, with the service of remembrance and the release of the paper cranes - a beautiful tribute.
Truth be told, the vessel was located by the Czechoslovakian navy.
In the end, even enemies at war recognize that after the shooting stops, the sea was, is, and will always be the largest problem to deal with for anything afloat, even the biggest battlewagons and carriers.
Paper cranes?
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知：
The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!!
The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!,?!
I've read many of the reports from this event and you have managed to put it in to a very comprehensive 1 hour video, well done to you and those that worked on it!.
The attack on the IJN Musashi was used later to plan how to attack the IJN Yamato later in the war. It was realized that hitting the Musashi on both sides prolonged the battle by flooding both sides of the hull and preventing it's capsizing. When the USN finally got the chance to attack Yamato they hit her from only one side with torpedoes. It still took an overwhelming aerial armada to take down both ships.
yea since they know how to sink musashi they use the same attack to yamato, but with way more planes and less support for yamato
@@Absolut531kmh Yeah? You actually didn't read what he said, right?
They did not use the same tactic, because they learnt from the Musashi experience, they used a different tactic. Read it again, please.
@@68Boca yknow they attacked musashi with air attack and same goes to the yamato right 😂
Yamato was sent out to do suicide operation. Even ship fuel was not enough to run return back. Its the single trip. Japan high command didn't want her being captured because it presented the emperor navy honoraly. So no need to plan attack them.
@@alexlo7708 True. Though this made no difference with the USN's attack planning.
The irony of it is that Musahi and Yamato had a third sister which was converted as an aircraft carrier
There were suppose to be 4 Yamato-Class ships,the Yamato(sunk by Okinawa)the Musashi(you already know) Shinano(what your talking about)and the never-built A-150 sub-class
And she only took 4 torpedos.
I am always moved when an expedition to find one of these wrecks conducts services to commemorate the brave souls lost to war. It gives me hope for humanity.
A brilliant and respectful documentary on the finding of the last resting place of 1000 souls who fought for their country.
Thanks to Paul Alan's crew for finding her. And for the Japanese experts an their very detailed review of the wreck!
Possible reason of center section blown apart is cold sea water hitting those big hot boilers. I saw trains of a USN supply ship lose her center and keel after grounding
One of the most iconic high ranking figures of the Second World War :Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto said himself “if it floats it will sink !,an unsinkable ship is simply inconceivable!!” .For a second note ,Yamato was his flagship!
Wikipedia had a edit war to hide Yamato sinking itself
Great to have found her and even better to have had the opportunity to unify in a quest to honor her and her men. Like most wars, young men are dragged to the meat mill by egomaniacal leaders, political and military. Incalculable treasure, mountainous natural resources, and of course the human loss...squandered for the vanity of a few. It makes it even more heartening to see citizens of both nations come together to show great respect to those whose lives were thrown away like refuse.
Well said!
Time after time this happens and nothing is ever learned. Today the "leaders" of most countries / states are just as cynical, psychotic, venal and greedy as ever. The species is fatally flawed.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知：
The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!!
The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!.?,.
Nothing that floats is unsinkable, this ship took a beating that few other ships could have taken without sinking. No Design Fault here.
Fascinating documentary. So much detail. Thank you ever so much for your efforts.
Indeed. What a fantastic production, left me in awe.
Great video! The history and analysis of the ships flaws and destruction were very interesting. Thank you for sharing this important part of WWII history!
I remember telling my dad, who was on the USS Johnston, that he was one of the few guys alive that knew what it was like to come under fire of the 18" shells of the Yamato. He said he was so busy concentrating on his duties that he was oblivious to it. Plus I've read that the shells likely went right through the hull.
My dad was in 7th fleet, at Leyte on the CVE-70 Fanshaw Bay. It was an aircraft carrier and he was on it for the duration on it's service. He didn't talk about it much. I think I know why, one reason, was because he said they could see something being thrown off onto the rocks in Okinawa. The men found out later that it was parents killing their own children. 😪♥️😪
Yep, 18 inch AP shells punched straight through destroyers which is why the destroyers, inspite of multiple direct hits took next to no damage. The shells were too big and the AP fusing meant they didn't detonate till well out the other side of the ship with too much water between the destroyer and the shell for the shell to do anything.
Your dad was a lucky man to live through that. I believe it was the USS Johnston that fought bravely until it was sunk. The survivors weren't rescued right way either. They were in the water for several days until they were picked up. Many were lost to sharks. So sad. Glad your dad made it.
@@PlatinumIrishrose Just the other day i learned about that too! & how the Japanese army soldiers were NOT there to PROTECT the Okinawans..
(Japanese propaganda & culture was.. Well, 'In-humane' doesn't cut it.)
A young (20-ish) year old mother had finished throwing her last/only Child off, only to hear shortly after from Neighbouring villagers the Americans were coming there only to inhibit the precious Airfield-bases.
I'm heartbrokenly convinced she never stopped crying.. R.I.P o7
Yeah, unfortunately most of the Cruisers realized the mistake & switched from armor piercing shells to incendiary or whatever other shells that they knew would either damage the ships more, or shrapnel shells that would kill any sailors in the vicinity. And luckily they withdraw. But then they started getting kamikaze attacks not long after. And the kamikaze's did more damage than the Yamato, the largest battleship to ever prowl the Pacific!!..
19 armor piercing bombs and 20 torpedos will sink ANYTHING there is no design flaw answer.
The flaw was building a battle ship not a carrier
@@zopEnglandzip It was laid down under the terms of the Second London Naval Treaty, it did cheat a bit and was heavier than it should have been, but it's one think to build a ship a little on the heavy side, it's another thing entirely to build a different class of ship...you can create plausible deniability for the former, but you won't fool anyone with the latter.
@@zopEnglandzip I was extremely surprised (a serious WTF) to read that by far the most effective naval weapon was the pressure triggered naval mine that was sown by bombers in enemy harbors. Both by hit percentage and cheapness, naval minds absolutely destroyed the Japanese navy and merchants.
Apparently, the US also had no idea how effective they were, but it makes sense since every ship must go by a harbor, and every mine is always ready to detonate.
@@langhamp8912 yea they totally gutted the mine laying ability out of the argonaut. Why? Stupid admirals.
@@zopEnglandzip Carriers were more fragile, and therefore not unsinkable either. People forget that.
I really wish one of these giants survived the war
If they survive, they will be like the other ship, like prinz eugen and yukikaze from kagero class they are being convert to other navy and used as target practice prinz eugen being used as bomb atom target by US after survive that she towed to kwajalein Atoll to capsize and sank in December 1946. yukikaze after the war end, she getting transfer to Republic of China Navy from Imperial Japanese Navy in 6 July 1947 and being scrapped in 1970, oh man she is the last survivor of kagero class, imagine if all the survivor ship is being convert into museum.
I'll prefer the older battleships fuso,Nagato or the battle cruiser Kongo
@@jasonlemuel5078 yes I'd love to visit a fuso
Iowa class are just as big or bigger, the guns are smaller though
@@streetracer2321 iowa is smaller due to differing design philosophy iowas was designed to be fast and mobile and able to cruice long range and have limited dimension restrictions smaller guns of the iowa have bigger muzzle velocity so it makes up for in speed than raw bulk
It was hit by 19 torpedoes & 17 bombs & still stayed above the surface for 4 hours...it only took 2 torpedoes to send the USS Indianapolis to the bottom of the Philippine Sea...kinda puts things in perspective as to how much larger & heavier the Musashi was...but it also shows that nothing is unsinkable...if it floats, it can sink...
It has the *thicc*est armor in the sides
Great documentary! The video ending, showing respect for the lives of the crewmembers lost, is greatly appreciated.
Yamato her sister ship was also the biggest Japanese super battleship that most people talk about. Rest in peace
In WW II only Tirpitz and Bismark were unsinkable (almost). Bismark alone fought for hours with several British battleships and at the end ran out of ammunition and the crew scuttled her.
Tirpitz had the record of the highest number of aerial attacks on a single ship and in the end, Brits used 5 ton bombs to penetrate her armored deck. Even 500 kg bombs were not enough to penetrate her deck armor.
The rivets seem to be the issue when it came to the armor
When Yamato capsized, the ammunition left in its main batteries exploded, so some of the damage could be explained pretty easily if you think about it
Wow, how this thing opens. "How did the unsinkable ship go down so fast?"
Really? Was it the 17+ bombs, or the 19+ torpedos that were surpsingly "fast" at sinking this ship?
Musashi actually escaped combat under her own power, but came nowhere near close enough to land to run aground and save herself.
Japan had lost too many pilots by the time this battle happened, and could not train to recover. The US had the other side of the coin, building fleets of carriers and fully staffing and stocking them.
Throughout the war, Japan suffered from an irrational fear of committing capitol ships to a fight, the force at Midway could have run over the top of the US force, but they ran off because of the carrier losses. By the time Japan decided to stand and fight, the US had them outgunned in the air by a fair margin.
The war in general, the Japanese captains and command made every "worst" decision at the time possible, and it led to them wasting their precious fuel resources moving ships all over and not actually fighting, and eventually waiting so long the big ships became obsolete because there were no carriers to support.
Interesting. Do you think they could've won the war?
@@JacobGrim Anything is possible, but IMO poking the US before solidifying control elsewhere was a huge blunder. Hindsight is always 20/20, but the way Americans felt about pretty much anything in the Pacific at that time, Japan could have taken over the entire Pacific and likely parts of South America and US citizens would have ignored them. Minus Pearl Harbor of course. Even if all they did was secure and build up their own supplies from their takeover of the island nations between Japan and Aus. they would have had a better chance. I think, personally, they could have taken over all of china and India and the islands and the US would have left them alone for 20 years, only paying attention if Australia was threatened at that time. Basically, Japan could have been the other world power, but they decided to poke the bear with a stick instead.
But that is speculation of course also.
The industrial mite, abundance of raw materials, converting American Industry to a war time footing creates a endless supply of war material. The abundance of well trained American pilots sealed the deal
Japan if u look at the nation is about the size of California.. they had to reach out an take over other land in order to fule their war time efforts. But America had everything they needed in their own back yard. I think this was a disadvantage for japan. They had to move in an take over lands rich with oil as well as natural resources their small country didnt have like the United states had in abundance. This is why Yamamoto said what he did about the sleeping giant.. he knew if they wasnt successful in knocking the big guy on the block out with one punch? It would spell disaster for japan. An he was correct in his assumption. Industrial might comes from resources like what America brought to bare from all parts of its mass of land, man power, an industrial might. Natural resources was the straw that broke japans back. The same thing happend to hitler when he dove into Russia.. he over extended an paid the price because his war machine was stretched out to far with no meat to keep his amys fed. Germany i dont think is much bigger than the state of oklahoma. These tiny country's had to reach out an fight to take over what they used to do what they did. It cost them big time as well. That an the fact their leaders was stupid .. cause they bit off more than they could chew.
@@wideawake7071 You are correct. Thing with japan is, they could have taken over all the islands between them and Australia, and over towards India, and the US likely would have left them be as we were busy in Europe. It might have turned into something later after England was upset and wanted back their stuff, but even that would have been to Japan's advantage because they could have stockpiled and expanded their forces. The one place japan could have gone and gotten zero international pushback was China. In general though, expansionist idealists want to see the fruits of their ambitions before they are dead because ultimately the whole prospect is driven by their greed and selfishness. There are a lot of current events going on that fit this also, but thats a different video.
Man made an entire documentary and put it here for free, respect.
How to sink an enemies entire naval fleet.
*Mark all of their ships “Unsinkable”*
So a single bi-plane can fly over the entire enemy fleet and drop thousands of sticky notes that read "UNSINKABLE!" and the fleet is screwed? That actually might work.
The thing is, alot of ships were though unsinkable, but by 1945 japan still though in this idea when operation Ten-go was underway, wanting to beach Yamato, but eventually sunked before it could be rendered unsinkable.
A lot of these so-called WWII "documentaries" are as much drama as anything else. The superiority of naval air-power over surface ships was proven tentatively at Pearl Harbor and definitively 3 days later in the South China Sea when Prince of Wales and Repulse were sunk. There were many carrier battles from those early days until Leyte Gulf that only reinforced the point.
@First Last Its a joke, we tend to laugh at anything deem'ed Mighty or unsinkable, when in fact it gets sunked easily by whatever you want.
@First Last I think it was a joke, but maybe not?
They should have recovered that film on the sea floor. Miraculously, it looks like it was intact and still had pictures on it after 76 years.
While that would have been interesting, I’m glad they didn’t take anything from Musashi. She’s a war grave and everything should be left as is out of respect
@@ryanp5790 A large majority of shipwrecks are the gravesites of sailors, yet many are scavenged. What's the difference between a 500 year old sunk vessel and a 76 year old sunk vessel? Living memory and ethics. The same people that scavenge warships of yore are a bit hypocritical saying a more recent ship is off limits because there are people that still remember it.
The film is arguably far more important than scavenging parts of the ship, it could give additional insight into the crew and the ship. It could also be delivered to the family of said sailor(s) that took them.
@@GGigabiteM just because the majority are wrongfully scavenged doesn’t mean it’s right to scavenge another. A grave of a young man who was killed in war should be respected with the upmost respect just like any other grave. We know what happened to Musashi, there’s other sources that point to what happened. If they found a blueprint or something of the sort I don’t see much of an issue. But I think personal belongings should stay with the men who lost their lives
the Yamato exploded as she rolled over and sank. tearing her in half
no the Musashi broke apart after she sank due to an explosion
Thanks for the unforgotten war HEROES documentary....may their souls Rest In Peace....( Lumut Malaysia)
Finally, a video with a 3D image of the status of a sunken iconic ship
Battleship sailors are a different breed of fighter. I was fortunate enough serve on one of ours (BB-64), and I tip my hat to our counter parts, in past Naval conflicts.
The Japanese knew from the start of the Pacific war that heavy surface units without air cover were extremely vulnerable to combined aircraft bombing and torpedo attacks. After Pearl Harbour the Japanese airforce dispatched HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Repulse with the same tactics that the Americans used to sink both of the largest Battleships ever built.
Even before Musashi was discovered, I owned Akira Yoshimura's book, 'Build the Musashi', and played that game, Silent Service II, and watched Starblazers, (Uchuu Senkan Yamato), Space Battleship Yamato, in Japanese.
Musashi lead an intriguing life, while the battleship was being constructed, blueprints went missing, and the Japanese Navy even went to the extreme to hire a clairvoyant to help search for the missing documents.
After Musashi left the slipway, the screen protecting her from the eyes of Nagasaki, caught on fire.
The crew named her the Palace, but was spooked when Yamamoto, and Koga died while they where CinC, and both put their flag on her. After that, they thought Musashi was cursed.
After Musashi was sunk, some of the survivors where transported on the carrier Junyo.
The Japanese Navy kept her sinking a secret, and had her survivors isolated while fighting, when more lost their lives.
With great effort, and interest, co-founder of Microsoft, Paul G. Allen, helped fund for her discovery.
Another great testimony for all who are closing these undersea chapters, in naval, and maritime history.
Take care, and all the best.
@Christopher Snyder
They did a great job on "Space Battleship Yamato 2199" The Re-Worked Story, Animation, Graphic Effects, and Musical Score were all Top Notch
Wikipedia had a edit war to hide Yamato sinking itself
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知：
The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!!
The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!?,?!?
I was astounded to hear that Musashi wasn't designed to endure torpedo hits which I find ironic as the IJN had in its arsenal the "Long Lance", which was not only an excellent weapon, but one they used with tremendous effect in numerous battles with the Allied navies. Yet, she was slammed by 19 torpedoes before sinking.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知：
The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!!
The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !
The IJN were understandably incredibly dismissive of earlier US torpedos. Their fatal flaw was SOME of the IJN high command didn’t think the US would / could learn and improve them.
Unsinkable was one adjective offered not only to Yamato/Musashi, but Prince of Wales and Bismarck. There cannot be unsinkable warships nor invincible armies.
Dang, I was kinda feeling sorry for them, except my dad was on the shore at Tacloban. If the Admiral hadn't turned around, there's a good chance my Dad and his whole family wouldn't be here. War sucks.
As a combat veteran myself (Iraq) i will agree war sucks. Im glad your dad made it home.
Ive been to Tacloban, Philippines...they still remember and honor our American GI's....Honor.
My dad was part of the Leyte invasion force. I'm also glad Kurita turned around.
War sucks for those who fight. people sitting home watching videos have no idea.
@@BigRed999 Yep! And the one's sitting home are the one's that sent you there to begin with! They're called elected officials.
“...the biggest battleship ever built...” And obsolete before she was launched. Shinano wasn’t even completed as a battleship, she was converted as a (unusable) carrier.
and she too was sunk by a submarine the USS Archerfish
Nope, she was far from obsolete, just as the American Iowa-class wasn’t yet obsolete. Yamato and Musashi could’ve inflicted horrendous losses on the US Navy if they had been used more aggressively earlier in the war. Carriers had become more important, but battleships still filled a critical role in WW2.
@@Cailus3542 During the Guadalcanal campaign, Yamato and Musashi could have turned Henderson Feild into dust, sink several cruisers and destroyers on November 10th, and sink the American battleships South Dakota and Washington during the 15th of November.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知：
The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!!
The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!
Some collectors have collect old models of sailing ships ⛵️ into a small clear bottles. I was wondering whether the battleship Musashi can also also put into a bottle. If it was possible then we will call it a Bottled Battleship LOL😆 😂 🤭 !!!!
I am from a Navy Family. This touched me. My Grandfather was on the Midway but she was sunk as the USS St.Lo. Most of my older surviving family are still there. Panama City. I will not name the base. Thank you for sharing this very informative dig into Naval warfare. Were going to need such logic. Thanks again. Doc
Your not going to find it. However, Tyndall. Where my Grandfather got another Purple Heart in the air. No one even understands. Theres enough fuel there to launch everything. There are subs refueling right there. There is no base, because its underwater.
Its never been a secret. The bowl of Geography of the Gulf of Mexico. They knew in the 50's. Best guess there are over 50 subs sitting and waiting. And if you defend that strong, might as well refuel everything right there. This bull that type Shark class Titanium Russian Akula class snuck in is bogus bs.
We tracked them as they entered, and as they left. Most people think we protect Norfolk. Yes we do. But the Gulf of Mexico is forbidden zone. You show up you will be sunk within minutes
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知：
The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!!
The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!?.??(
The lesson here is never declare a ship unsinkable. That never seems to end well.
15:47 The Mark 13 torpedo, designed by the Bureau of Ordnance, together with its bigger brothers, the Mark 14 for submarines and the Mark 15 for surface ships, was dreadful though most of the war. It's the same torpedo carried by Torpedo 8 when it was wiped out at Midway without any hits, and the same torpedo that PT boats used at Surigao Strait without any hits.
HAHAHAHAHAHA, is that what the propaganda has finally come to about Suriago? "The battleships won!!". Lordy, the PT boats swarmed the Japanese ships, which couldn't turn, at all, and at some points in the straight had less then 10 feet of room below them, oh yeah, I am sure they all missed!
I love the story as much as the next guy, how the resurected BB's got their revenge! But that was a propaganda story to bolster moral at home and discourage Japan.
I have watched this story, this narative, slowly change from veteran's accounts of how the PT boats were crucial, to how they were just there for fire support and distraction and got a few hits in, to now.... where they were spectators to the great BB victory of the US. It is true, history is written by the victors, and as time goes on the story is sensationalized over and over by internet experts until it resembles the telephone game.
Dear lord, 50 years from now the Japanese captains will have commit battleship Seppuku out of plain fear of the approaching might of the US Navy.
@@davenhla Actually it was destroyer torpedoes that did the most damage, sinking the Fuso and crippling the Mogami before they got in range of the battleships. It was notably ironic. The 1914 edition of Jane's Fighting Ships had a front plate with a builder's model of the Fuso, first battleship to be armed with a dozen 14-inch guns. She was a great favorite of newsreels. But neither she never fired against another ship.
Only one ship from Nishimura's fleet survived, Shigure, the "Immortal Destroyer", commanded by Tameichi Hara, who survived the war and wrote a memoir. The ship got a reputation as a Jonah because this was not the only battle where it was the sole survivor. She was sunk by a submarine later in the war, after Hara took command of a cruiser--which was sunk out from under him along with Yamato. The English title of his book is "Japanese Destroyer Captain". I read it in high school more than fifty years ago.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知：
The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!!
The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!):?!
If it wasn’t for America, no one would’ve ever seen the Musashi again, or even know where it was.
I love how they talk about musashi as the most important ship and she was important and some of the pride it mainly was Yamato the first in her class that had the most pride and was the main flagship of the Japanese navy
Yea i was going to say the same thing since it was mainly Yamato
Actually...you would be wrong. Musashi and Yamato were ships of the Yamato-class...but Musashi was the lead ship and Admiral Yamamoto's flagship.
For all their lauded power, Yamato was sadly given the nickname "Hotel Yamato" because she spent more time transporting sailors from one port to another than she ever saw combat. She saw very few actual engagements that would showcase what the Yamato-class ships could actually do, but when she did finally get to show her teeth it was too late. But the Battle for Okinawa displayed the level of punishment that she could take, much like Musashi did. And she did indeed go down swinging. 15+ torpedo hits and 30+ aerial bombs before one punched through the upper deck and hit the #1 battery magazine and blew her wide open.
@@technewsfortechnoobs They called Yamato the hotel for admirals cuz she spent most of her short life in port flying the highest admirals flags
@@scottycarter5535 Ummm....wrong. She spent most of her life as I said, ferrying troops from one port to another. I did a 20-page research paper on her in college. Trust me...everything I read over 7 historical accounts said the same thing. Few engagements, lots of ferrying.
And the only time Admiral Yamamoto's flag was raised on Yamato was after Musashi sank at the Battle of Leyte Gulf.
@@technewsfortechnoobs yea same the Yamato became the flag ship after the sinking of the musashi.
They both were sunk tho, and both put up one hell of a damn fight.
this was before the age of lawsuits.. in modern terms, it would be called "the unsinkable* ship!"
*note: unsinkable status is only guaranteed up to around a dozen direct torpedo or heavy bomb hits to the hull or lower decks. seaworthiness is not guaranteed after ship is engulfed in flames and has been hit by more than 12 ship killing bombs.
The man at the end saying "Welcome, brother." It made me tear up. The respect he had was amazing.
Great animations of Musashi, well done.
It should be remembered that Musashi was not the only warship lost from that task force. Admiral Kurita Takeo had to shift his Flag to the Yamato after his own Flagship, the cruiser Atago was sunk out from under him earlier by submarine USS Darter. I think this event and then the destruction of Musashi shook him badly, perhaps messed up his thinking so that when Yamato and the rest of his Center Force attacked the light forces of 'Taffy Three,' the fierce and damaging resistance put up by a bare handful of destroyers and destroyer escorts caused him to think that he was engaging some of the much heavier cruisers and carriers of Halsey's Third Fleet, making him think he should withdraw or face the total destruction of his force by Halsey.
Of course today we know better. Halsey and the bulk of his fleet were off station, chasing down the decoy Northern Force. There was nothing between Kurita and the Philippine invasion force except the escort carriers and destroyers of the Seventh Fleet. Admiral Oldendorf and his battleship force was too far away and too slow (mostly 21 knot Pearl Harbor survivors) to intercept, plus they were short of the armor piercing ammo they would need since they had fought a battle the night before, sinking the battleship Yamashiro.
The destruction of Musashi and subsequent maneuvers by Kurita had American commanders believing Center Force was withdrawing after receiving a bloody nose, not advancing through San Bernardino Strait into Leyte Gulf and the Battle Off Samar.
"The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors", by James D. Hornfischer, is on my to-be-read list.
www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/82865/the-last-stand-of-the-tin-can-sailors-by-james-d-hornfischer/
THE WORLD WONDERS :D It's always been the greatest "what-if" argument - What if Halsey had listened to Lee and left even some of his battleships patrolling the entrance to San Bernadino Strait? Lee could've crossed Kurita's T with massed 16" fire as each Japanese ship emerged from the strait, and used their superior speed and better fire control to dictate the ensuing engagement.
@@ELCADAROSA On my 'to read' list too.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知：
The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!!
The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!,,??
Great Film. Only slight criticism I would make is that Yamato sinking two US aircraft carriers in that battle should be mentioned. Although the tide had turned against the Battleship, the US Navy were still using them in the 1990's. It is interesting how we tend to associate a technological superiority to both the Germans and the Japanese, when all of their "unsinkable" ships lie on the bottom of the sea. I think it is right that the men who died fighting the ship to its end should be respected.
The morale of the story:
Never call a ship unsinkable
Edit: When I finally see her full wreck image, my heart totally sank, seeing her completely mangled.
FYI:
*Morale:* _noun_ An emotional or mental condition with respect to cheerfulness, confidence, etc.
ex.: The Troops were happy, their morale was high.
*Moral:* _noun_ The moral teaching or practical lesson contained in a fable, tale, experience, etc.
ex.: The fable of the turtle and the rabbit demonstrated the moral of the story: Slow and steady wins the race.
You're welcome. Happy to help.
@@lancer525 lol grammar nazi
@@lancer525 Has it occurred to you we type on touchscreens with a high rate of mistakes because well DUH Touchscreens?
@@SVW1976 Grammar issues are not caused by speed.
@@dragoonTT 🤣 Speed? No thanks
“Musashi began weapons testing”
*Shows clips of Fuso and Nagato class battleships*
@Aussie Pom ye right.. they were top secrets.
@@vndnlle6312 they even built giant sheds to build them in so that they couldn't be seen from the sky
@Aussie Pom Especiallly evident at 12:00 and 19:20, for those who do not take a close look...!
@@vndnlle6312 no they were actually legitimately top secret, they were build in giant sheds and the workers were given a gag order with the punishment of family extermination if they divulged what they were working on.
When it became obvious that Japan was likely to lose the war 99% of all files pictures and blueprints on the ships where destroyed, hell for almost 50 years it was believed that the only surviving images of the ships where those taken by the aircraft that sunk them.
This battleships where a secret almost as secretive as the manhattan project.
Aussie Pom They should’ve put more cg of Yamato or Musashi instead and saved the footage of Fuso and Nagato for both of the ships’ own documentaries.
The unsinkable battleship question was answered in May of 1941 with DKM Bismarck. If the USN was in a sporting mood, they could have had a classic gun battle with all 4 Iowa class BBs and sunk the Japanese fleet that way. But the Jutland era was over.
I wonder why the magazine explosion (if the case) did not blow up the missing turret's well instead of opening up the hull like a nut: in the exact same situation, with the B turret magazine exploding, Battleship Roma had his whole 7k ton main turret (a light cruiser by WWII standard) assembly blowed up in the air for hundreds of meters and yet it kept afloat for more the 30 minutes.
The only thing that comes to my mind is that the ship being capsizing may have forced the explosion against the still present turret which was pushing against the water compresing the gasses upward into the hull, but then, how much more compressed should have the explosion in Roma be with a whole turret assembly held down by gravity?
It was a forward magazine explosion that destroyed the Arizona. When that ship's magazine exploded the barbet (foundation) of the #1 Turret was destroyed though the turret gun house itself survived as a recognizable structure and rests on what remains of the ship's keel there. #2 barbet was damaged but continues to support the turret gun house. The roof of the turret was removed to allow removal and salvage of the 14" guns.
Musashi's internal design allowed the blast of the forward magazine to travel back into the midship spaces, blowing them apart as well as wrecking everything around and inside the magazine.
In addition to @Robert F's explanation, water cannot be compressed as air can. Meaning, while the force of the blasts on the Roma and Arizona were able to be vented to the exterior of the ship and the blast pressure absorbed by the air around them, the blast on the Musashi would have taken the path of least resistance - back into the hull as opposed to the exterior.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知：
The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!!
The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!(;?!
I really want to see those old battleship sail once again. It's really sad to see these ships gone
There’s still a few preserved. Mostly in the United States.
Do you know how far you control an artillery shell? From the breech to the muzzle. After passing from the barrel, the shell goes somewhere, most often somewhere where the target is not at when the shell arrives.. Missiles are the present and future for weapons. Also, everything costs and battleships cost almost so much to operate, there is too little bang for the huge amount of bucks that are required to operate them.
@@usamwhambam
You didn't get his point. He said sail not fight it's difference beacuse even tho Japan and Germany were bad guys in WW2 both Bismarck and Yamato or Mushashi were well build ships and astonishing in their time which should at least make you respetfull for the mashines they were. That is why on Tank fest Tiger is biggest attraction. Not beacuse it was fantastic but it deserved respect for the guys that build them.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知：
The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!!
The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!(;??,
The only thing I have issue with is saying musashi wasn’t designed to take torpedo hits or hits to the deck from bombs. The Japanese were early adopters of using carriers as an attack force and knew exactly what the capabilities of carrier aviation were. She had torpedo defence, air defence and deck armour. No warship was designed to take absolute beatings because if that were case a battleship would weigh closer to 200,000 tons to withstand massive attacks.
Im glad you have this story of the Musashi, almost always you hear of the Great Yamato story but very little of the Sister ship. Well Done.
Regarding the author giving credit to the "Destroyers" for turning the Center force back after the successful entry to Leyte Gulf, that is only part of the story. Not taking any credit away from the brave sailors in the Destroyers and Destroyer Escorts which faced the Center Force at Leyte Gulf, but the Escort Carriers did a great job with very little to fight with. Their aircraft mostly were armed with 100 pound HE bombs and .50 BMGs, yet they made run after run at even the Yamato, even making "attack" runs when their ammunition was expended. It has been standard history that Admiral Kurita believed that with the number of aircraft and Carriers and escort ships (DDs and DEs) that he had run into the Third Fleet and he retired.
The success of Taffy 3 was also because Kurita bungled his escorts. He had plenty of destroyers to screen his capital ships, but he made a huge error in positioning them in the wrong place. If not for that incompetence, the Japanese would have won Leyte Gulf.
Everything is still in the same general area. Showing that it detonated on impact with the Sea bed. The shock wave went through the burning powder causing it to detonate which sent a shock wave through the ammunition which had been preheated and it went off all at once. That's why it's all at one place.
I wonder if they've ever looked into underwater drones that sniff instead of look or scan.
A large amount of metal or wood from a good sized shipwreck would be constantly releasing particles into the surrounding water, a drone with onboard particle filters could sieve out and analyse for metal or wood residue.
46:00 gunpowder is a low explosive used on old wooden warships from over a century earlier.. Modern ship use High Explosive HE.
when gunpowder is in an inclosed space like a shell or a barrel witch it was in the ship it will detonate leading to the ship blowing in half .if it is out in lets say a room in would defligrate meaning it just burns with no shockwave or explosion and they do still use gunpowder, high explosive is just the type of round that has been flung out the end of the barrel at somthing
@@excommunicate1314 - I stand by what I said previously. Yes gunpower wrapped tightly in paper will explode with localized force but they are called fire works or fire crackers. Spelling, it is enclosed not inclosed and its which not witch (Harry Potter and pals).
Gunpowder is what target used to propel the round the High Explosive (aka HE) is a type of round that is fired.
Gunpowder is what they use to propel the round*
@@decommissionedchannel3188 - yes HE, is a type of round because it contains HE. There are other rounds like MESH, mainly in tanks, that also do damage. The use of target does not make sense in the sentence.
Musashi was the only ship in history that was a "him "not a "her". Most these documentarys don't acknowledge this.
Wasn't Bismarck a him aswell?
@@hazardouspurpleblanket625 only the Spanish refered to it as a he. The Nazis called it a her.
@@zatoichi4634 Didn't know this, thanks! I always thought Bismarck was a he.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知：
The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!!
The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!
Some collectors have collect old models of sailing ships ⛵️ into a small clear bottles. I was wondering whether the battleship Musashi can also also put into a bottle. If it was possible then we will call it a Bottled Battleship LOL😆 😂 🤭 !!!!
The captain of the Battleship Yamato was eating Yams 🍠 while his battleship was sunk.
While the captain 👨🏼✈️ of Battleship Okinawa said, “Okay!! 👍 👌” when his battleship was sunk. The Japanese are crazy!?,!’
As a former aviator and military officer may they Rest In Peace and all who sail her
As a former sailor, and now a cleric.... I say AMEN!
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知：
The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!!
The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!
Some collectors have collect old models of sailing ships ⛵️ into a small clear bottles. I was wondering whether the battleship Musashi can also also put into a bottle. If it was possible then we will call it a Bottled Battleship LOL😆 😂 🤭 !!!!
Outstanding video. Thanks so much for sharing this with us all! It is such a great tragedy that one of these massive, beautiful, powerful warships did not survive the war and end up as a museum. While I know that could never have happened for a variety of reasons, if ever a ship should have been preserved, one of the Yamato's should have been preserved. They were the pinnacle of battleship design and technology. While the video talks a good bit about design flaws, no ship ever built could be expected to take 19 torpedoes and remain on the surface, for pity's sake. Lol. I'm very glad that we never had to discover how many torpedoes it took to put an Iowa class battleship on the bottom of the ocean!
No I know why War veterans do not talk about war. Like my father. He's seen enough World War II Northern Burma, Calcutta , India going through two bouts of malaria. Going into war as a US Army Private , a volunteer Merrill's Marauder. Disrupting Japan's supply lines in Burma. Going on so many Campaigns . Coming back as a Staff Sergeant . For Brigadier General 'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell . My father always told me the same thing . How did he come out of the War. He always said, he shot at everything that moved in front of him. Then there was a guy in Cleveland , Ohio. Making bullets for him. Now you see what I mean. He did not want to talk about what he experienced. Like most Armed Forces Veterans
if the yamato was successfully beached, it couldhave been around today
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知：
The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!!
The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!,?!!
Awesome work¡. I truly enjoyed watching it.
My father was a fighter pilot in world war II at a New Guinea. He had a great respect for the men of the Japanese Air corps that he fought against he said they were excellent pilots and ferocious fighters. He had a saying my enemies made me a better fighter.
The bigger they come the harder and faster they fall.If only the film footage found on the ocean floor was salvageable it would hold priceless footage of its last moments.
Maybe it is? Or some of it perhaps. Not too great odds of that I reckon though. But hey worth a shot maybe? And damn it! I was waiting for them to get back to that film after they discovered it in the doc a bit later on. I was hoping and crossing all my fingers and toes that it would be a major plot point reveal!😃
But in wasn't to be..😧😟
Heartening to see the respect the Japanese & American survivors have for each other. Those who actually do the fighting in conflicts know that their "enemy" experiences the exact same thing as they do, & that creates a very common human bond. The "enemy" often becomes seen as a "brother in arms".
BIGGEST... MOST... they just sink at a faster rate... really appreciate your willingness to throughly get to the bottom of this story... we all need to see the folly of war and the cost of courage.
Some of those Warships Paul Allen searched for was the Mighty Hood and the Infamous Bismarck
Paul Allen did not find the Bismarck, she was found by Dr. Robert Ballard
Unfortunately for the likes of Yamato/Musashi and Bismark/Tirpitz: Whilst the pinnacle of design, they came out just as the day of the battleship was over. Like Bull's supergun their time was over as the steel for them was coming out of the furnace. Magnificent things all the same.
I had read many years ago about the defects in Yamato's armor, discovered after she took a torpedo. This explanation makes tremendous sense. A strange twist of fate, another unsinkable ship suffered rivet failures, the Titanic.
Yes exactly!! The armor belt was just too thick to be welded so they hot riveted it just like the titanic!!
@@rolandosantaana8200 titanic had another issue with her rivets. Sulfur contamination of the metal in the rivets. This made them extremely brittle in cold water.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知：
The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!!
The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!,;(!
Great documentary. The big issue for the IJN with the Yamato class ships, was damage control. The USN had a major advantage in that aspect. If Musashi's officers had trained more on how to remedy the flooding and fires, she likely could have lasted longer in combat.
After nearly two dozen torpedoes a dozen heavy bomb hits, plus fires in the hull and superstructure? She MIGHT have lasted longer, but not have survived.
We'll never know as the day in age of the batleship was over. Who knows how Yamato would have stood up against the 4 Iowa's...... or even the combined guns of them and the 4 South Dakota's..... Always interesting to think of
@@1987phillybilly Iowa is? Dakota is? Why not gun is and know is, and for that matter Haine is??
14:08 " I think it's definitely something other than geology, but its not the Musashi." Wow, if it's bigger than Musashi, what is that thing??
Anyone else have an issue that they found something one hundred meters bigger than the battleship and thought. Oye not what we wanted
They were really focused on Musashi.
I agree. I wish Paul Allen had told them in 2011, "if you find something interesting, go ahead and spend a day exploring it. Otherwise, you'll not have the chance to learn any lessons from deploying the ROV.
Those are the times when men of valor and honor does exist.
Don’t forget the”Bismarck”!
@@johnludlum9460 forget it, that thing weighed nearly as much as the iowa but had only marginally better armor and much less powerful guns
the only reason the british feared it was of its superb fire control and that they did not have adequate ships to counter in in the north presently
@@kulot-ki1tu That is completely false
@@metaknight115 how so?? the efficiency of the german crew when straddling the hood with relatively decent fire control systems meant she landed a hit that incapacitated her
does that mean shes the best? no because even a ship such as the nagato would be more than a match for the bismarck. if you took the time to study other navies like the regia marina, IJN or USN then you would know how hopelessly outclassed bismarck is
tell me then what is completely false, enlighten me
@@kulot-ki1tu Shit, I thought that you were talking about Musashi, not Bismarck. I do agree with you
15:22 What a sweet shot? Excellent work camera man... from the past.
By the time the Keel was laid the ship was obsolete. Aircraft carriers rule the sea . The same thing happened to her sister ship Yamato off Okinawa
keel
Wow I guess you got me
the Yamato never reached Okinawa, her wreck lies 180 miles southwest of Kyushu in 1,120 feet of water
No, battleships weren’t obsolete. That’s a historical misconception. They were no longer the premier capital ships afloat, but they still filled a crucial role.
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知：
The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!!
The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!
Some collectors have collect old models of sailing ships ⛵️ into a small clear bottles. I was wondering whether the battleship Musashi can also also put into a bottle. If it was possible then we will call it a Bottled Battleship LOL😆 😂 🤭 !
Great documentary, historically , technically and emotionally .
And with a very sober narrative , which is not often the case with American documentaries .
Thank you.
Everyone seems to forget that the Japanese had their battleships custom designed and built by the British prior to the start of WWII. It's no wonder they could take such punishment.
"Bristling with anti-aircraft batteries"
Wargaming: I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear that
BAHAHA my first thought too
Totally legit. I saw a Midway roflstomp a Yamato a few days ago. I turned my Gearing, and popped smoke 😂
CV's are not OP!...Check the spread sheets....
@@JMHTruck32005 True, but they sure as hell are annoying. There's nothing worse than getting attacked by something you can't see and retaliate against.
The Musashi in WOWS is the initial AA layout of the Yamato class when they first launched. By 1944, she had a lot more AA, but still not as much as 1945 Yamato. Either way, their 25mm AA guns were way inferior to our 40mm.
If the Musashi was built like her sister, the Yamato, it could have been raised and sent into space.
yes, pre- nuclear steel. Like the German ships of ww1 at scapa flow .
What a great docu. Thanks!
The reason it might be far away from the expected sinking location is the engines might have been still running and pushed the battleship further than it should've been.
I was surprised to hear them talk about armor piercing bombs because most of the bombs dropped on Mushashi were contact bombs...the wrong type for attacking a naval ship.
I know that the Escort Carriers which faced the Japanese Center force later only had their planes equipped with HE because they were supporting the landings. But the planes from the Fleet Carriers had enough time to arm with AP bombs, and I've never heard that the mission against Musashi didn't have AP bombs. In fact I have read that the SB2C-3s were equipped with either 500 or 1000 pound AP bombs. So if anyone has a source for that being wrong, I'd appreciate it.
Brilliant video, very great to learn about this magnificent warship and her bitter end, thank you.
Thank you for this. It was very well done and quite poignant.
This ship will never fail in every single ship to ship battle, great engineering for japan
The point is that with air power and submarines, ship to ship battles were a thing of the past. The Musashi never got close enough to an enemy ship to use its big guns...even the Yamato didn't have much luck in the Leyte Gulf battle. Admiral Yamamoto himself said that the Yamato and Musashi were one of the greatest follies of mankind, like the Great Wall Of China and the Egyptian Pyramids. A totally useless waste .
In a battle with heavy fog, Iowa would sink Musashi. In every other battle condition, Musashi would most likley sink Yamato
I could mention that Yamato ran away from Taffy 3, but the blame for that lies in Admiral Kurita, not Yamato. Yamato displayed impressive gunnery, sinking or helping to sink 3 of the 4 ships lost, and damaging several others
Jordan Fan，Prophet of Environment。范楚漳，環境先知：
The Musashi was sunk because at that time the Admiral or Captain 👨🏼✈️ was receiving a Massage from a beautiful Russian Masseuse while having sex with her. This Russian woman name Sasha said, ‘We Russian women are always, “No Rush!” while having sex! ‘ This idiotic Japanese Musashi captain didn't pay attention to the operation of this great battleship. Therefore the Americans had sunk it. Recently, the Japanese are releasing radioactive waste water from their disastrous damaged nuclear ☢️ power plant to contaminate the Pacific Ocen. All Japanese and its ships had/have sunk too low morally, militarily and technically that they are beyond any rescues!!!!
The Americans especially their government are/were as wasteful and stupid as they are/were ever been to use 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs 💣 to kill just one boat. Those tornadoes and bombs must had cost more than the Musashi itself! Highly unsustainable people and must be suspended from this planet earth 🌎🌍🌏 !!!!
Some collectors have collect old models of sailing ships ⛵️ into a small clear bottles. I was wondering whether the battleship Musashi can also also put into a bottle. If it was possible then we will call it a Bottled Battleship LOL😆 😂 🤭 !!!!
Did the Japanese audience not see the end of King Kong? Funny thing that destroyer was sunk by planes. Kinda' ironic. because of it's enormous size, it couldn't outmaneuver 20 torpedoes and high altitude dive bombers that can strafe the decks and take out the comms. These ships were designed to fight enemy ships not an air assault. The fatal flaw was the high value the Japanese command put on these vessels as a strategic and tactical juggernaut.
Ships should be made by Playskool, they never sink....even after 35 years they still float! : )