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My mom was a kid in the 50s & they had what they called Punk Pubs & Cafes. She said it was mostly Beatniks & Bikers who adopted the slanderous term. "Yea, that's right, we're Punks!". Some say it goes back into the 40s. & the angst music had multi names (as does still) & Punk was also used back then.
So it blended & mixed with the expanding scenes. Hippies & Rockers mostly & my mom was a bit of the 4. Later 60s mostly Hard Rock & then Metal, & she worked with a lot of the big bands of that time in the Philly scene.
Being born to a teenage mom at that time, who took me along to mostly everything was a great experience. Being so close to NY the area scenes crossovered a lot & then so did the music more & more. Fans traveled then formed bands & Tri-State+ support fueled so much.
Mostly small places hosted local shows. Then CBGBs was taken over by the Punks. It was a scene & not a genre. Many of bands that played were varied styles, later all under the Punk term. Patty Smith, Iggy Pop, Ramones, to Misfits etc. Many different sounds & styles, all coming together. Fan base grew & many made it into the mainstream.
Similar scenes formed all around the world. Many in the US. Yet UK stepped it up. Tape trading became huge. My moms friend would travel all over. To LA & UK mostly & would bring back so many tapes. Got to hear Sex Pistols, Motorhead, Venom Iron Maiden & Def Leppard, then Suicidal Tendencies, Motley Crue & Metallica from their starts. & I traded copies to hear more like Forced Entry, DRI, Die Kruzen, Seduce, Helloween & so on.
So bands didn't have to be huge to be heard & tours & shows became plentiful. Many made it to the US & influencing the next waves & so on. Clubs were opening like crazy. Rollerskating Rinks after hours & even Chuck E Cheese had Punk & Metal bands playing. & yet many bands that were of the heavier kind had hard times getting booked. Luckily there were a few to axxomadate them. Around here we had City Gardens. & Randy Ellis kept the shows cheap.
Thankfully most were low cost then. Even stadium shows were under $10. Cheap enough to go check out a show & not know anyone & leave with some hand printed shirts & a few copied recorded tapes of new bands. At least a few great shows a week. Sometimes a few in 1 night. My time from MetalHead, who loved Punk & many styles, but became a Thrash Baby❣ As many did & then they had many Punk side projects, some of which got big too.
Continued going to shows with my Mom. Dreams of opening our own club+. Followed in my Moms footsteps some, working in the scenes & with bands & went beyond with Promotions, Photography, Production, Recording, Management & so on. Right before some big things & a dream world tour that was planned, a drunk driver hit me head on & all spiraled down & i was out of the scene for several years.
Had little contact with a few & all i heard & saw seemed sad. Bit after Y2K i started to get back into some. Got out to some shows & fests & got real sad when i saw how things ran. John Connelly from Nuclear Assault/Anthrax & Billy Milano SOD/MOD recognized me & got spinning bear hugs. We caught up some during load off, which they had no one they trusted to help. Yet my reputation remained & we were trusted to help. There were a few "working" females, yet i don't know any that were really trusted. Most knew, i was not in it for the fame or fortune. & i did not F my bands! In any way! All for the love of music! & treated like a brother. Sadly, the tight Brotherhood that once was, was killed by what came after...
I started doing more what i use to do, the way i use to as much as i could. Worked with some of my old bands. Got others to reunite & new bands. Even got to run a club that had the dream theme & many aspects me & my Mom wanted oddly. She loved bringing her friends there. I reignited the scene around here a bit. Upping the ante & lit a fire under rears of other clubs so that they treated the band's better.
i tried to instill some of the old school ways & mindset on the younger bands. Those who claimed to be Punk, didn't know most of the fundamentals. We mixed shows up & shared stories of how it was & should be again. I like to think some understood & got a bit. Unfortunately not enough.
Thus why is said Punk is dead. Yet the true few rage on still. So the good ol stuff lives. & some new were lucky enough to some how get it, or in part enough to be taken serious by their forefathers. I pray everyday somehow the words keep spreading enough for the clueless to het it & help those who are struggling & scenes around the world light up as they once were, or even half way i would settle for!
Sorry for the novel- but that's a bit of my perspective ~
This was incredible to read. Thank you for sharing this.
"It was a scene & not a genre." YES. Coming later (mid-80s), my definition of "punk" was the genre rather than the scene. Some retro-friction comes out of that difference (where I wouldn't classify the Go-Gos as "punk", for example, as much as I LOVE their music). Ok... I'm reacting before reading your whole post.
Even at 58, I got a Crass tatt last week. Born in 64. Melbourne 1980 ❤
Respect to CRASS! Growing food, feeding people, educating people about freedom and self-sufficiency
Yes :) genre punk like cyberpunk and steampunk merged back with the real thing with solarpunk.
Crass is definitely my favorite band ever
I’ll never forget the Sea World residency
exactly!!
As a 16 year old punk, I fell in love with Crass. Big A Little a …
I know I’m late to the game, but can be of my all time favorite punk bands is NAKED RAYGUN. By far the best band out of Chicago.
Brit punk here. There back in '77. Turn sixty in a week. How the bloody hell did that happen. First wave Brit stuff you've got Pistols, Clash, Damned, X Ray Spex, Slits, Penetration. Second wave is Ruts, UK Subs, Angelic Upstarts, Cockney Rejects, Stiff Little Fingers and the third wave is the more hardcore stuff like Discharge, GBH, Exploited, Anti Nowhere League, Crass and all the other crusty bands. There's still some good bands out now, Knock Off being my standout band. Great seeing someone discover the music I've loved for the last forty six years. It's not a fashion it's a state of mind. Once a punk always a punk. Keep diving bud.
Thank you for this post.
West One (Shine On Me) by the Ruts just may be the greatest rock n roll song EVER - punk or otherwise. I can't even concieve of a song better than that.
Well said mate, with you all the way, from the beginning
Favourite bands, The Stranglers, The Ruts, 999, UK Subs, Sham 69, The Ramones, The Adverts, Buzzcocks, Slaughter & The Dogs, XRay Spex, The Damned, The Mekons, Wire, Killing Joke
Hard core anarchist bands like Crass did not start to make records until 79 but the politics and anti society sentiments existed from the beginning for some bands, most dealt with frustrations of being young and penny-less. Check out Stiff Little Fingers who dealt the realities of living in a war zone (Northern Island)
2nd wave uk punk is the difinitive music for me. GBH, the Exploited, Subhumans, Conflict, Cockney Rejects, the 4skins, Last Resort all had albums out early 80's that i consider classics
Now that you've crawled down this rabbit hole, there's no turning back. Now you're one of us.... one of us, one of us... 😁
We will make you one of us!
Gabba, Gabba, Hey!
Once a punk always a punk. 'Ex-punk' is a non-existent species. So you're with us forever and as the man said - welcome.
That rabbit hole has an entrance in Australia.
Favourite band from my perspective..
U.S. Dead Kennedys
U.K. Subhumans
(I bought this album in 1983)
Australia
Razar/Public Execution
Mystery of 6's
Nearly 60, Punk/Metal/Country Head appreciates the time time you took for this.
Punk is a very broad term. So close your eyes, open your ears, and dive in.
Peace🫡
@bruceevans3476 DK and Subhumans have both been in my favorite playlist since the 80s. They fought and struggled and set the stage for the politically accepted "90s punk" (not really punk) bands who copied them but softened and wimpified their music to make it more sellable for the record companies.
OG Punk rock kids were similar to OG hip hop.
There is definitely a correlation between the two.
Cheers for choosing Subvert City ! Subhumans playing the Earl in Atlanta on June 7, can put you on guest list if you want to see it live?! Cheers! Dick (singer)
Playing in ireland anytime soon?
Hey Dick!!! Not sure if you remember me? I toured with you guys in the mountains of bc Canada I was the bass player in Real Sickies. I never got the chance to say cheers and thanks and wish you well. Cheers from northern Canada! 👍
This is freaking Awsome! SUBHUMANS is one of my top 3 punk rock bands! And the only one in my TOP 3 that I have not seen live, missed SUBHUMANS IN 2020 here in Tulsa OK thanks to covid.
Subhumans were my gateway band into the whole scene when I was a lil nipper. Absolutely loved this track. They were Westcountry boys and had yokel accents like me too! 🌾🍂
34:40 Notice Crass called “Silence a virtue”… meanwhile the supposed punk “looking” “activists” today say “Silence is Violence”… now we can all see how the system has subverted the principles of punk and turned people into mere puppets of propaganda with the principles turned on their head from raw, individualism into conformity and group identity. Yeah, we see you…
- Ratos de Porão
- Bad Brains
- Crass
- Minor Threat
- Oi Polloi
If I had to pick a song for each band on this list (well...the three bands that I'm familiar with), it'd be these that I'd recommend:
•BAD BRAINS - 'Big Take Over'
•CRASS - 'Punk Is Dead'
•MINOR THREAT -'Cashing In'
*I woulda picked 'Bloody Revolutions' for CRASS, but he reviewed it already.
Prolly not my fav songs from each band, but def some bangers!
Thanks for making this video. 56 year old punk here from OC and LA. Brings tears to my eyes when people rediscover and appreciate our fight. ... that we still fight.
Never give in until they do. A E P
52, but yeah, i was the 15 year old at Fenders in long beach. i had my big bros military ID. good times. Alex at Alex's bar is my good buddy since 1st grade. ferreals.
PUNKS picnic was held in princess street gardens below Edinburgh castle for years , but moved on to an island on the river forth and is still held every year and oi polloi are regulars
As an 80s Punk kid, it was all about DK, ST, Subhumans, Bad Brains, Decedents, Misfits, Black Flag, and Minor Threat.
Me too, those bands changed my life. I'm mad I missed this stream.
@@AgentBeans Ha. I just saw 7 Seconds & Negative Approach play last August.
Negative Approach is badfuckingass🤘
@@bschuler6216 no you didnt poser b schuler.
@@johngillespie3409 You must be an artist model, cuz all you do is pose for hours.
80's Subhumans definitely but not any of those other usa bands(apart from DK) boring us bands its was all about uk Real punk like Conflict / GBH / Peter & the Test Tube Babies / Charge / the Business / Chron Gen / Anti Pasti etc etc etc
The Exploited, Discharge,GBH
Discharge had their own sound and were big influences on bands like Metallica, Slayer, Anthrax and the like. Very influential band. See Nothing Hear Nothing Say Nothing, Ain't No Feeble Bastard, Never Again, State Violence State Control are stand outs.
Dis🤘
I had their triple skull logo tattooed on my head 38 years ago.
It's just a blur now.
I think that I fried my tattoos when I fried my brain.
The 70s and 80s produced some mad shit.
Apparently, I was there and I had a good time.
Anything by The UK Subs.
Punk rock and early hip hop are cousins to each other. Yall are correct! Very similar. Came from the underground, many came from lower social status/upbringing/poverty, in your face, rebellious, outspoken against injustice, strong messages, sacarstic/funny, catchy music and vocals, good bass guitars, etc.
Both genres grew up with each other in big cities back then too (late'70s, '80s) in smaller night clubs.
There was 'goofy" punk rock too like new wave, garage rock, early indie/alt. BTW lol .
Anyhow, those who says punk is dead are normally older grumpy gatekeepers. Ignore them lol. Punk never died it just evolved just like any other genres as well. Many subgenres.
Also, yes. Body Count is crossover punk (punk fusion with rap, metal, etc) . DRI, Bad Brains, Suicidal Tendencies, Municipal Waste, Beastie Boys, MOD, SOD, Anthrax, etc are similar to Body Count too . Same subgenre.. Lot of crossover punk bands came from the coast too. NYC, DC, etc (east coast) and LA, SF, etc (westcoast) where rap and punk have heavy scenes and blendings. Also Houston , TX (DRI, etc).
Ska-punk is very big too (mixture of ska/reggae and punk). Same thing. Lots of ska/reggae and punk bands grew up together in the underground scene and clubs (UK, LA, NYC, etc) . Started influencing each other musically.
This is why many skaters love punk, ska/reggae and hip hop at the same time lol.
THIS!!! You are 100% correct. At one point in NYC the 2 scenes even intersected in graffiti culture
Thanks, and don't forget CBGB club in NYC!
@daddygroot2203 Thanks, and don't forget CBGB club in NYC!
Being a huge reggae fan it seemed to me that hip hop was US merger with Jamaican sing jay music
I really like this one.
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As a kid who grew up listening to punk the second I heard hard gangster rap I felt a kinship. A lot of us who had hard times can relate to these genres and the oppression of police presence on the less fortunate regardless
But yeah, on a side-note, that's how i started listening to hip-hop...I grew up listening to punk-rock then I heard NWA and it just seemed to be punk with a different way of growing up, then I heard Public Enemy, Ice-T etc and it was all punk-rock to me
Punk rock literally saved me. I was bullied relentlessly for being a socially awkward weird kid. Punk rock taught me how to stick up for myself and say fuck you to people that didn't like it. Best thing that happened to me. When punk got big again in the 90s all these assholes all the sudden wanted to be my friend. I was able to turn the table on the bullies. Oh, now you're into music. Good for you. I've been here all along, you weren't here. Don't expect me to forget all the shit you did to me.
Punk was the only genre created in reaction to pop music. When the age of disco was force-feeding people trends before music, dirty kids with no musical ability said "fuck it. If you won't give me what I want I'll do it myself." At least in the states. In the UK it was about a hopeless future, no jobs, etc. Though even from the get-go the genre was hypocritical to some degree. I mean the Sex Pistols were formed like a boy band.
@vladStValentine
True also punk was rebelling against prog rock. Prog rock long musically talented, complicated 7 layer rock with fancy guitar solos. Which dominated mainstream radio.
Punk said eff it! And went back to straight high energy garage rock. lol Back to basic rock music.
@@joesmith8725 Prog rock dominated mainstream radio?? lol.
Your comment about "how metal was shaped..." You are right on point my friend! As far as the Motorhead comment. I read an interview with Lemmy and he emphatically said essentially..., "We are not a metal band. We are more like punk than anything else. We are rock and roll. If you have to categorize us, we play "MOTORHEAD MUSIC"
Lemmy played bass with the The Damned when they reformed for the first time
or even MOTÖRHEAD MÜSIC!
I’ve been a subhumans fan since ‘83 when The day the Country Died came out. Changed my world. If you really want a masterpiece though, Listen to From the Cradle to the Grave. It’s 17 minutes long.
The band I played bass in opened for Bad Religion and GBH (1986) at Jackie Robinson YMCA in San Diego. It was so cool of the local promoters to give some local bands a chance to be heard too.
Dag Nasty! Another great band. Unbelievable live. Meatmen! Good lord. Tesco Vee sounds like nobody else. So fun.
Great times. Thank you, sir
Bad Religion’s music literally saved my life. Will always be my favorite band of all time.
Same
Same
i played Big A Little A for a few of my friends who mainly listen to mainstream hip-hop stuff just to see what they thought, and they were bobbing their heads so hard i thought they were gonna get concussed.
That was the first track I heard from them. Phenomenal. From then on it was Conflict & Flux of Pink Indians.
Been Uk punk since I was 15 (42 years ago)! Love how you introduced this video and how you talk about some of my favourite bands subhumans crass etc. Crass imho we’re a class apart… penny Rimbaud genius songwriter and visionary. Crass were massive in the Uk in their time with almost zero media coverage
I remember there were two charts, one was the one Jimmy Saville would host and the other one was independent labels and CRASS were usually number 1 or 2 on it. 20-30 years later conspiracy theorists took a few talking points from anarcho punk, and acted like anarcho punk never happened. Now they're gurus against those 'evil soros funded anarchists'.
All about the subhumans, CRASS & Conflict.
I remember seeing GBH supported by English Dogs ( check them out) at The Grot in Stafford, UK. Nearly collapsed the sprung floor and brought the ceiling down, mosh pit so good!
BTW, love Crass!!
Great bass guitars.
If you want to hear bands that influenced all this modern Techno/Rave music, check out - Skinny Puppy, Ministry, Pailhead, Pigface, KMFDM, My life with the thrill kill kult, Front 242, NIN, Killing Joke, Throbbing Gristle, and any other Industrial Punk Band.
You left out a big one, 808 State.
@@ledzepandhabs I'd consider them to be the beginning of Techno, more than Industrial. But they put out some good sh!t.
Congratulations, you are one of the few not growing up with punk that understand the message and the movement. Great selection of bands but pitty your focus is on the more well-known U.K and USA punk bands. When punk popped up in 1976 it popped up in every western country, when hardcore take over at the end of the 70's it popped up allover the world. From Peru to The Philippines from South Africa to Hungary. Maybe something to think about. Being in the punk movement from the mid 80's and playing in some bands myself I can send you some nice stuff. Grts
Punk isn't dead, as always, the good stuff is just primarily underground and you have to seek it out
Greedings from overseas. Try some german Punk stuff.. 🤔
:"Slime-lieben müssen" "(must love).. /.. :" Broilers-meine Sache(my Business).. /..
:"ZSK-Es müsste immer Musik da sein".. *enjoy without understanding lyrics
@@raineramelung7380Germany has a killer punk rock community. Berlin? Cmon let's go!!!!
It's not even underground. It just isn't placed on the hit lists.
Punk is dead because you have all these people going to so called punk festivals / dressing like its early 80's in uk etc
Just a thought..., I spoke with my friends, Mike Watt (Minutemen - Bassist) and Kira (Black Flag, Dos - Bassist). We were having a conversation about hip hop and my observations that a lot of punks were getting into hip hop. I asked them their thoughts and they told me, " because it is the last dangerous music".
I asked them who their favorite artist was in hip hop and they BOTH replied, "RAKIM". I could not disagree. Rakim and DJ Premiere are part of the back bone.... Yes, Ice T has a heavy punk and metal history. We used to go to the RADIO club in Los Angeles where Ice T MC'd after we worked punk gigs at the Olympic Auditorium back in the day....
in the early 80s the FBI an the secret service were absolutely freaked out by punk rockers...i learned later in life that not only my local police had a file on me, but so did the FBI. Punk was full of threats to Ronald Reagan etc... it really freaked them out.
TSOL, Dead Kennedy's, misfits, 45 grave, exploited, black flag, gorilla biscuits, minor threat. Especially minor threat one for the founders of hardcore. And you should listen to DRI early music.
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punkrock is brutal raeality on fast forward😁nice to see , that you understand the message. its so heartwarming for an old punk( I am 60) -Punk Never Dies !🥳
You gotta check out Toy Dolls - Livin La Vida Loca. Or Dead Milkmen - Punk Rock Girl... a couple of Happy Punk Bands
Thank you...for exploring Punk Rock music and actually exploring punk rock music!!! It was heavy English...no problem with that. There was a The Screamers in LA doing Peer Pressure... and other areas of punk arriving at the same time. BUT... I LOVE you are at real punk...
The Punx Picnic was an annual event, where the Punx and skins would gather in Princess Street Gardens in Edinburgh, we'd get drunk and then play a game of football. Later there'd be a few punk bands playing and of course Oi Polloi, were always a favourite so the night the played this for the first time was fantastic
Dude you have the best show going with this topic
@The Adventures of TNT : Your thoughts at 11:00 ... Dude, you just summed it all up. I could tell, and so could others, that you listened to older stuff and HEARD the difference. You GOT it. Yep, I've relaxed in my older years... I like SO MUCH STUFF that is NOT punk. But I still bristle at people calling things "punk" when they just AINT.
@The Adventures Of TNT Got on late & replaying now. Oddly reflecting on EC Punk scene. Punk Nite &or set weekly or monthly Live Streams❣️You got a great ear & love your dead on interpretations! TC💜🤘
I was born in 1982 and was a teenager when punk was underground but coming to the pop forefront. Watching you discover this has made my whole day. Thank you for receiving our chaos pain and alarm warnings with such an open heart and mind. I love it.
Miss Lexxx, I wonder if you meant to type 1962 instead of 1982? Underground punk era was 1960s - 1970s.
Punk music unites if you let it. It's too bad most of culture is so caught up with status instead of educating oneself how the machine (GOV) works and what they do to try and keep us numb and dumb. So glad I discovered this music through Metallica and thrash in 85. Crossover was a huge thing here in the bay area late 80s. Metal heads and punks moshing together at shows. At first the punks hated the metal heads and vice versa. Then DRI came along to unite us all with the Crossover record defining a new genre. So glad people like you TNT are exposing yourself and your followers to it. Best from the SF Bay Area.
Used to listen to Subhumans on a tape cassette when I was in school, they were ahead of their time, addressing topics that are still relevant today.
Aus rotten has been my favorite band for 20 years... but im a huge fan of every band in this video...oi polloi, crass, subhumans are what got me in the scene
Sham 69 made my heart happy!
Love Sham 69! Thanks for posting this song.
never forget the Decendents , Drunk Injuns, Circle Jerks, Dead Milkmen, Agent Orange, Gay Bikers on Acid, the Exploited...
There is a pic taken at a mall in San Antonio in the late 80s of 2 old beatniks and a collection of the local Skaters, Punks and two tone skins. they wanted to experience the current counter culture
You absolutely nailed it. Punk music is entirely about uniting the widely accepted progressive views of the youth to create a popular front. It's forever relevant and holds up for a reason. We new you were a real one when you talked Crass
Sham 69 was named after a football club, Hersham 69. This song sounds like a supporters' chant.
SubHumAns gigs were fantastic...very bouncy and fun...
Grew up on a lot of these bands as well as old metal and hip hip. I’m so stoked you listened to I want to conquer the world by Bad Religion. Such an amazing song. They were definitely one of my favorites specifically that album. The Descendants are another rad OG California punk band you should check out if you haven’t yet. Milo goes to college is a classic! 🍻
love your reaction show kust a little history about me have been listening to punk/new wave since the early 80s and well the city I lived in wasnt punk friendly mostly cowboys and rodeo freaks here one song I would suggest looking at is Rise Against by the band Black Flag with Henrey Rollins as the lead singer it is in my humble opinion a song that was formative for west coast punkrock
Fuck man you get it I love this I’ve been a punk ever since 15 years of age and I saw the pist last week next door from their show
I found punk when i was about 11 a friends older brother was in a punk band and had the mohawks and all the associated garb. He would give us burned tapes to scope out Dead Kennedys Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables, Misfits Earth Ad, Seven Seconds Walk Together Rock Together, and Bad Religion Suffer, those 4 albums were and still are pillars 32 years later.
See how happy the songs made you though!
Missed your stream, chat so will post here, my journey in punk started in 1983 when a mate gave me two singles Sex pistols - My way 12" and Angelic upstarts - im an upstart (green vinyl 7"), got into 77 punk, UK 82 punk and OI! music, then i got more into Crass etc and turned more Anarcho punk, then got more into Grindcore, reggae, free festival stuff.
Would have joined this if it wasn't in the middle of the night on a work day for me. Glad to see punk being explored. Off to see Stiff Little Fingers in Manchester on Friday. Should be a great gig.
Punk is a wide sonic and esthetic spectrum... Everything from almost retro-sounding dirty rock'n'roll with basic chords and shouty street protest vocals, from melodic singing and upbeat slow tempo to extreme speeds, even more extreme than some of the metal bands, not to mention extreme vocals, lyrics, esthetics and practically almost noise sounding bands. There are many subgenres of punk and styles of it. Some are more well-known, some are more underground. pop punk, street punk, skate punk, hardcore punk, crust punk, oi punk, etc...
Aus-Rotten are by far the best punk band lyrically and musically. It's like you're listening to the mind of someone like Noam Chomsky or Michael Parenti with the revolutionary anger of someone like Thomas Sankara. Dave Trenga, the vocalist, formed another band that after Aus-Rotten split called Behind Enemy Lines, which is basically are harder, more mature version of Aus-Rotten, which I honestly prefer. Behind Enemy Lines is monstrously underrated. I have a bunch of their lyric videos on my channel along with Aus-Rotten.
Anti-Product is also a great band!
@@milfredcummings717 Also a favorite
Some former members of Aus-Rotten in Caustic Christ, they have represses over on havoc's distro site still in print you should check 'em out.
Aus roten is German.. And means,, Killing All to Zero,,..
Punk rock made me a man, Black flag, Dead Kennedys, Butthole Surfers, Fang, Scratch Acid, and Wipers are some of my faves!
Fang! Hell yeah!
I'm loving the comments, thought this was a pretty solid turnout for an ep 1. Hopefully there will be more where this came from!
The 'Hoi polloi' is a word we use in England to describe the common masses, it's kind of an insult, a bit like chav.
Thanks Cristofer🤘🖤🤘
subvert b schuler ♥🖤
Motörhead even did a version of Sex Pistols’ God Save The Queen,and Megadeth did a version of Anarchy in the U.K.
I’m almost certain that body count was heavily influenced by GBH. Iced-tea knows his shit when it comes to hard-core.
Check out: Star Fucking Hipsters; The Suicide Machines - Destruction By Definition (1996); The Hanson Brothers - 1992 - Gross Misconduct; The Misfits - 12 Hits From Hell, Static Age; Career Suicide - Attempted Suicide; Good Riddance - Thoughts and Prayers; Bishops Green - Tumbling Down; Rude Pride - Outta My Way ...
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There was also a Subhumans from Vancouver at around the same time. One of the (Gerry Useless) ended up in jail for blowing up a factory where cruise missile guidance components were built.
@Skates Regarding DRI not being punk, but crossover: Sure, I LOVED the parts they had that were hardcore, and didn't want the crossover, ie Metal, parts. But to exclude them from seminal hardcore sounds makes us poorer, not that I would've said that nearly 40 years ago. YES, I got really good at fast-forwarding through metal bits of "Dealing With It" to get at the good parts (uhhh, Counterattack is a fantastic 30 second American Hardcore cut). YES, I was disappointed when their crossover album came out with the metal-sheen logo... it declared where they were, and alas, that wasn't where I was back then. These days though, I've relaxed; I don't recoil at the metal bits at all. I'm happy to include them, pointing at the pure hardcore bits, and recognizing they indeed Crossed Over.
Sham 69, what a driving influence in my young life!!!
Motorhead were their own style! they were before punk, the only metal band the punks liked
Bad Religion's "I Want to Conquer the World" is killer live. Lots of crowdsurfing. 🤘
The best band, not only in punk music!
My new jam while playing COD.... The Meatmen - I'm going to fuk u up
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Black Flag, Circle Jerks, OFF, Flag, Cro-Mags, Crucifucks, DRI, The Adolecents, Corrision Of Conformity (1980's)
subhumans are still around.....going to see them in march 2024.... his other band culture shock just played my town a few months ago. tons of these 82 punk bands are still bang at it. uk subs are doing a final tour at the moment. i grew up with this stuff. lucky enough there is a cool bar where i live and these bands are still playing. we still here.
Other great SUBHUMANS songs are: 'Human Error', 'Religious Wars', 'Germ', 'Parasites', New Boy' and 'Dehumanisation'.
Maybe even 'Labels', 'Rats', 'Waste Of Breath', 'Where's The Freedom',
If someone told me that Meatmen cut at the end was from '85/86, I wouldn't question it.... that's the stuff I heard more and more at shows back then, and we called it "Speed Metal." As for your "punk influencing metal" idea: hard to say!! I felt Metal influenced Punk in the mid-80s more than the other direction. In retrospect, "punk" didn't go the way ~I~ wanted; it went the way everyone else wanted; and more kids wanted metal. Decades later, though, WOW, I respect metal; it's just as real.
Punk influenced metal “first” as part of the evolution of Thrash, especially hardcore punk drumming, & a lot of early pioneers of Thrash continued to love punk (esp Jeff Hanneman). Then Thrash influenced punk back, & a lot of UK82 & anarcho groups went full metal (Amebix, English Dogs, etc), & a lot of US hardcore punk went crossover (COC, DRI, ST) or metal (Agnostic Front, etc). Even now, many skinheads & old school punks listen to some extreme metal & power metal along with punk. I know less about crust, but I feel like Crust was influenced by Death & Black Metals, too. All in all, though, I agree Metal has had a way bigger influence on Punk rather than reverse
I love how happy this music makes you.
Yes CBGB in NYC very influential in getting punk movement going here. Iggy Pop, Blonde ( even) ,Steve Bator, The Ramones basically bands that couldn't play elsewhere had there " breakout" at this club. The punk look that I saw in England in the mid 70's I didn't see here till much later... but the movement did catch on....
MINUTEMEN? Clean guitar solos, they were punk with jazz elements and Workers lyrics!! From San Pedro, CA. Bassist Mike Watt went on to play with Iggy...
punk has always been silly. One thing that made me fall in love with it was seeing stuff like the brazilian band Titãs just losing it and making up insane performances in the few times they got a spot on tv(Imagine the Dead Kenedys doing a morning show). It was so goddamn funny outside everything else I had ever seen, and the music was amazing.
ruclips.net/video/xtww3jKZKs8/видео.html if you really love punk you gotta learn to love the silliness.
You were spot on you said punk was about forming a community, I was twelve when I went to my first gig and my mum (you say mom) was worried because of all the bull the tabloids had written about Sex Pistols. She didn't have a clue about Crass, Conflict,SUB HUM ANS etc! Punk got a bad rap because of the media the way we looked and only the kids read the lyrics on our records.🏴
Although I love all the Tea Punk that came out of the UK. I'm going to list my favs from LA and the OC. Vandals, Social Distortion , The Crowd, X, Simpletones , Rik L Rik, TSOL
Has our host heard the Stranglers yet ? That's not a situation that can continue. How about we just kick off with 'Sometimes' - song 1 from album 1 and just plow straight ahead from there ?
The Clash
the whole Subhumans collection is well worth a listen, especially 'From the Cradle to the Grave' so are Flux of Pink Indians, Conflict and Dicks from Subhumans other band Citizen Fish,
'GBH Gunned Down' was from the album 'City Baby Attacked By Rats' released in1982
If never been to a punk picnic your missing out
Aus-rotten are one of my favorite bands, awesome to see someone reacting to then. Try out these as well : Nausea - Cybergod, Behind Enemy Lines - The Global Cannibal, The Pist - Your America, World Burns To Death - They Want A War
FINALLY someone reacting to punk music
I'm 45 years old and still love punk rock and hardcore with all my heart!
Well shit I missed the one stream I could have contributed to
Subhumans, one of the best punk-rock band ever !
"Not Me"-Subhumans
In Birmingham UK we have a punx picnic every year put together by Adam Ward we had Australian south American and USA punk bands playing this year 24 26 27 28 and 30 july 2024 but there is alot of theses punk picnics going on all over the country they are great get together like Rbellion but done cheaper
Check out Bad Brains my dude. 4 black guys playing hardcore punk music in Washington DC, at a time when nazi skinheads would regularly go to punk shows just to pick fights. No one had more balls or was more punk than Bad Brains.
12:00 absolute fire. Keep burning trash lol. 👍👍
I love my punk music you did say about information on subhumans there is a book out at the moment by Ian Glasper it’s called silence is no reaction Forty Years Of Subhumans I warn you now it’s about two inches thick. You find ou5 anything you want about the band and band members. I’ve got it but not finished it yet it’s going to take me an age the pages aren’t numbered but I’d say over five hundred pages so good luck and I hope you enjoy it 👍✌️
lived it big time.
Subvert City makes me cry sometimes nowadays because it has happened.
Love 6ou for doing these
First punk rock song that came out in the UK was a single by the Damed title Neat Neat Neat, New Rose