We'll all be cenobites one day. Technology and culture will change, from our current standpoint that one day, if we were to have a time machine to view it, will seem horrific and yet our future transhuman selves may very well be quite happy and content with their situation. Look at dung beetles eating and rolling crap - some Egyptian reference to scarabs and the sun and anus there, Bataille must have written about that. What would a heaven for dung beetles look like, and what if you found yourself sent there by mistake upon dying, would you eventually get used to it given enough time, and at that point would you even be human anymore?
@@Xanaduum I think in Kenneth Grant's book Nightside of Eden he covers this regression to a pre human level. The 1st chapter goes into that idea of a larvae stage hinted at by Jung. The excel and reach Godhood/Exaltation, you need to be able to go backwards in time. You need to be able to flip love and hate, strength to weaknesses, joy to sorrow. This human box we have put ourselves in is a manufactured construction of our ego and fear that has to be overcome, no matter the cost or pain involved. You won't gain from that which you won't risk...
Justine made me an adult hahaha. Sickening, but eye opening in many ways, especially for a 17 year old. Also half of the black metal I listen to comes from France. Frogs are demented pessimists, and I guess I am to...
it may be partially the translation, but sometimes it seems like these french philosophers speak in assumptions as a first language. Each assumption building upon the previous. "Communication requires loyalty" - what? why? "... the knowledge of evil, [which] is the basis of intense communication" -- since when??? It's not so much that any one of these assumptions is necessarily false, but it's the unreasonable certainty with which they are used to formulate arguments.
I think the problem of reading Bataille, for some, is that he has no discernible ontology. He clings to concepts like ‘excess’ and ‘limitation’ to erode the possibility of a discourse on the subject of say, eroticism, as ever being grounded, or ever found (he is here most near to the later Schelling, and Hegel). As a result, one is lost in endless antinomies that eventually begin to collapse in on themselves, by contrast to the critical tradition which seeks or desires their grounding. There’s a short text of his called Le Petit, where he forms the problematic of ‘broken categories’ to get across to the reader how this is not a Discourse, but an attempt to relay that constant inadequacy, - which is also where he begins to surmise the imagery that’s erotic as being tantamount to a futile endeavour, or a “malady” as Marguerite Duras would write elsewhere. Your point is clear enough, but I think there are personal stakes involved in Bataille’s work which does not make his theories random nor even axiomatic, - since he is being intensely weird in writing about the erotic as a telos but constantly admitting to the reader the uselessness of such a project. And I think it’s rare to actually find a philosopher like that. One thinks of Blanchot, Duras (The Malady of Death), Louis Aragon (Irene’s Cunt), Céline, Trakl, Rilke…
@@freddie2119 He theorized about strategies to break down societal norms to bring in the (marxist) revolution. Then he wrote litterature that would help to accomplish just that. Inspired by Nietzsche and de Sade. He was an alcoholic and commited to depraved sexual practices. He even writes about masturbating in front of his dead mother. And you insist to make some kind of metaphysics from that? Unbelievable! Did you pay for your "education". The thing you write is a perfect imitation of what leftist actvist in academia been writing for four decades just to get money from state run univercities. It's called "deconstruction".
Some of these existential philosophers use hundreds of thousands of words to express what can basically be summed up with several combinations of two words:“Humanity sucks” “Life sucks” “Art sucks” etc….
It's not about using "a couple of words", but rather, it is the very movement of thought itself; the voyage upon inexhaustible spirals of infinity, of motion, giving rise; or in this case, sinking (-- pathetically indeed) to that which IS. Few there are who truly grasp the light of the Sun. Most seekers grope about blindly in darkness, and are lost. Those who would become an adept of darkness, must draw others into their darkness. A warning. Peace to you.
Not every train of thought can be summarised into tiktok content. And coming to a similar end conclusion is not the same still, the journey or reasoning towards there can matter in some cases
Schopenhauer said this before him and before Nietzsche. Humorously speculating that this world and all its woes and misfortune could well be the result of a fallen state, or our punishment for transgressions committed in another world.
im no analyzer but i certainly see the connection, dung eater, bataille’s anus metaphors. i would not be surprised if miyazaki-grrm incorporated bataille in elden ring. makes u think what other philosophers are subtly incorporated in elden ring
@@gaseredtune5284 George did not hate the world but what he proposed in it, he still needed to define some things but he is definitely more serious and true than Max Oschopenhauer, the only bad thing George did was his dialectic of fascism
Fiction's uninteresting without evil, so fiction is evil? Isn't this what's sometimes known as 'shooting the messenger'? Just because there are Nazis in 'Casablanca' doesn't mean 'Casablanca' is pro-Nazi. Where I might get on board with the idea is thinking about 'Blue Velvet'. It's like a Hardy Boys mystery made real: the young protagonist pursues the mystery he finds in his home town with prurient glee. 'You like mysteries all that much?' says his appalled girlfriend. 'Yeah!' Ultimately this leads him into voyeurism of sexual violence - in which we, the audience also participate - and then actual participation in that violence. It all gets a bit much and he hurries back to picket-fence normality, but Lynch's point is made: the reader or viewer of the story doesn't just want to see evil to see it punished or condemned, but out of ghoulish fascination and even sadism.
The condition you speak of is the fall, the separation of man and source God, which created the cycle or cycling of all things cut off from their source, creating death which will be abolished. Once the connection is reestablished this is temporary.
7:19 The first line reminds me of Lilith in Evangelion. I'm basically just something using a human body. There is something incredibly disturbing, borderline unbearable, in the experience of these creatures that remain so infantile and parts fixated. Forest and trees, you do some black box testing and create a model of their mind, really trace it all out, and find a sort of sort of corruption fetish. Anus this, shaft that, life is poop that poops itself and eats poop and so the sun is the biggest pooper of all, blah blah blah. Every day with these people.
It’s an akephaloi. There’s also deep alchemical and Gnostic symbolism in the Akephalos. Severing the head is an act of ritual sacrifice to attain a deeper connection to the numinous.
@@goataghut5066 that’s it’s practically the meaning of Ketu beheading your logical mind to let the subconscious and spiritual flow freely to connect with spirit or daimon
One day a long time ago carbon became sentient. One Speck of sentience is all that needs to survive in this experiment. Our mission is to send something aimed somewhere which continues the lineage of at least one Speck of sentience. Then we can do this shit all over again. Have a fun Kali Yuga folks!
@@end.olives You can judge my intelligence by my opinion of this shit video. I from the other hand have plenty of material for my judgement. By the way attacking someone's character because you don't like his opinion is very bitchy and not very bright ether;) Why don't you just tell me why you disagree with me?
I stopped listening when something along the lines of, 'authors are evil because interesting stories inherently involve conflict or decadence' was said. Wtf...
Really true, while it, to me, addresses some valid points, it's the epitome of Bourgeois thought. If I had the time I would inform myself of his understanding of Nietzsche. It puzzles me. Very male centric POV also.
Wondering what a social inept pop culture “thinker” would think of an an incredibly innovative and different kind like Bataille’s? Go see what Nick Land thought about Bataille; Peterson....yawn dude, yawn
i enjoy peterson and his book maps of meaning is a very great work imo i've heard peterson say that bataille was one of the most disgusting people he ever heard of. And i also enjoy batailles work as well.
@@fogpimp Should give you some insight there with his comment; he's good at echo'ing Jung and various Soviet writers, and that's as far as I've ever seen. Besides make your bed, homeboy used to wear capes when he was in college. And I mean legit like Larry David on Seinfeld black cape, the kinda thing Dracula would rock on a cold transylvania night. I don't get how that doesn't immediately make people reconsider getting life advice from again, a dude that unironically wore a cape, and married the first chick that ever gave him the chance. This is now the surrogate male figure for modern beta male existance.
Just as many, if not more NPC's avoided it. I'm not a fan of the shots, but maybe you should get out more? Vaccine avoidance is not a barometer for being a rebel or an independent thinker. Most reasonable people tend to trust something that the majority of scientists promote over prayer, healing crystals, etc.
@@KaliFleshIt's counterproductive to the goal of making the world a peaceful, free, safe place. I understand that lucifericism on the negative polarity is necessary for the existence of a positive polarity in the first place, but why not be luciferian in the positive polarity if you feel like there is too much Ahrimanic inertia. All I'm saying is that the pendulum swing of polarity ought to remain in an equal balance from bad to good to maximise novelty.
I’ve never heard things so fucked explained this intellectually.
😂 I concur!
I think the meme of the "writers barely disguised fetish" applies to this Bataille fellow- lol
Bataille would be a cenobite if he could. I just get that vibe from his writing.
Clive Barker was a fan of Bataille's work
Search on utube "Bataille,Hellraiser and the limit experience"
@@forgottenmedia5172 you really think he didnt already know that?
We'll all be cenobites one day. Technology and culture will change, from our current standpoint that one day, if we were to have a time machine to view it, will seem horrific and yet our future transhuman selves may very well be quite happy and content with their situation. Look at dung beetles eating and rolling crap - some Egyptian reference to scarabs and the sun and anus there, Bataille must have written about that. What would a heaven for dung beetles look like, and what if you found yourself sent there by mistake upon dying, would you eventually get used to it given enough time, and at that point would you even be human anymore?
@@Xanaduum I think in Kenneth Grant's book Nightside of Eden he covers this regression to a pre human level. The 1st chapter goes into that idea of a larvae stage hinted at by Jung. The excel and reach Godhood/Exaltation, you need to be able to go backwards in time. You need to be able to flip love and hate, strength to weaknesses, joy to sorrow. This human box we have put ourselves in is a manufactured construction of our ego and fear that has to be overcome, no matter the cost or pain involved. You won't gain from that which you won't risk...
Hang my head
Drown my fear
Till you all just disappear
Black hole sun
Won't you come
And wash away the rain?
When a man refuses to follow few simple rules of being, he is forced to explain him self in a complicated word salad.
Sydney AUST.
Correct.
It's interesting that Frenchmen write the most horrific literature
DeSade
Boudillaire
And the most sexual the first exorcist movie was copied from a French film
Baudelaire.
Michel Foucault
Justine made me an adult hahaha. Sickening, but eye opening in many ways, especially for a 17 year old.
Also half of the black metal I listen to comes from France. Frogs are demented pessimists, and I guess I am to...
@@Big_Tough_Guythat’s why I’m here is because of DsO
Drama. We live in a world where things kill and eat and excrete one another. Or to put it more politely - a world of continuous transformation.
This too is will-to-coom.
Perspectives of celestial romance from the goat eyes of a black magician. Wowee!
Oh this is where Skull Flower got their back cover art and possibly song titiles ...
it may be partially the translation, but sometimes it seems like these french philosophers speak in assumptions as a first language. Each assumption building upon the previous. "Communication requires loyalty" - what? why? "... the knowledge of evil, [which] is the basis of intense communication" -- since when??? It's not so much that any one of these assumptions is necessarily false, but it's the unreasonable certainty with which they are used to formulate arguments.
I think you're right
hope someone has something to add to this
They are lunatic crypto-marxists and homosexuals.
I think the problem of reading Bataille, for some, is that he has no discernible ontology.
He clings to concepts like ‘excess’ and ‘limitation’ to erode the possibility of a discourse on the subject of say, eroticism, as ever being grounded, or ever found (he is here most near to the later Schelling, and Hegel).
As a result, one is lost in endless antinomies that eventually begin to collapse in on themselves, by contrast to the critical tradition which seeks or desires their grounding.
There’s a short text of his called Le Petit, where he forms the problematic of ‘broken categories’ to get across to the reader how this is not a Discourse, but an attempt to relay that constant inadequacy, - which is also where he begins to surmise the imagery that’s erotic as being tantamount to a futile endeavour, or a “malady” as Marguerite Duras would write elsewhere.
Your point is clear enough, but I think there are personal stakes involved in Bataille’s work which does not make his theories random nor even axiomatic, - since he is being intensely weird in writing about the erotic as a telos but constantly admitting to the reader the uselessness of such a project. And I think it’s rare to actually find a philosopher like that. One thinks of Blanchot, Duras (The Malady of Death), Louis Aragon (Irene’s Cunt), Céline, Trakl, Rilke…
@@freddie2119 He theorized about strategies to break down societal norms to bring in the (marxist) revolution. Then he wrote litterature that would help to accomplish just that. Inspired by Nietzsche and de Sade. He was an alcoholic and commited to depraved sexual practices. He even writes about masturbating in front of his dead mother. And you insist to make some kind of metaphysics from that? Unbelievable! Did you pay for your "education". The thing you write is a perfect imitation of what leftist actvist in academia been writing for four decades just to get money from state run univercities. It's called "deconstruction".
Some of these existential philosophers use hundreds of thousands of words to express what can basically be summed up with several combinations of two words:“Humanity sucks”
“Life sucks”
“Art sucks”
etc….
It's not about using "a couple of words", but rather, it is the very movement of thought itself; the voyage upon inexhaustible spirals of infinity, of motion, giving rise; or in this case, sinking (-- pathetically indeed) to that which IS.
Few there are who truly grasp the light of the Sun. Most seekers grope about blindly in darkness, and are lost.
Those who would become an adept of darkness, must draw others into their darkness. A warning.
Peace to you.
i do respect it for sure but bataille did say it in a lowkey creepy way. lol
Indeed. I'm so glad I outgrew all this blah blah blah
Nihilist
Not every train of thought can be summarised into tiktok content. And coming to a similar end conclusion is not the same still, the journey or reasoning towards there can matter in some cases
Ah the great eye that pierces all flesh! And you shall know them by their works.
your videos are amazing
Thank you so much 😀
the black sun, jsjs a fucking genius... this is a very good job 🌚
Thanks for this
My pleasure! Praise Thoth! ^_^
Worrying enough to make a whole Azov battalion constipated.
lmao
Schopenhauer said this before him and before Nietzsche. Humorously speculating that this world and all its woes and misfortune could well be the result of a fallen state, or our punishment for transgressions committed in another world.
Holy gem
gemerald
Glad you enjoyed. I hope it was helpful. Thanks for watching! ^_^
Nice work
reminds me of dungeater in elden ring or this connection i make only superficial?
Solaire
im no analyzer but i certainly see the connection, dung eater, bataille’s anus metaphors. i would not be surprised if miyazaki-grrm incorporated bataille in elden ring. makes u think what other philosophers are subtly incorporated in elden ring
another one whose only grace was that he was born into nobility
Or was it just the theory fiction horror you wanted to communicate with land? I must say i enjoyed myself to death there
"Philosophy by frisson"
This guy is insane
Based*
@@snek180 you don't know what that word means i guess? Anyone who hates life is not based by definition
@@gaseredtune5284 George did not hate the world but what he proposed in it, he still needed to define some things but he is definitely more serious and true than Max Oschopenhauer, the only bad thing George did was his dialectic of fascism
@@snek180 Unless you think a gnositc world view is gay and lame
Seeds of truth in the dung of language
This was really good. Do you have a link to a full transcript?
From the pie hole to the crust hole, same SKIN.
Any recomendation for background music while playing this video?
Yo
The Ur Sonata of Kurt Schwitters
COIL-HORSE ROTORVATOR
spaceghostpurrp n bloodline genesis beats
Coil
Have you done a video on geotrauma yet?
2:53 goes kinda hard 🎶
the most interesting part is that it his philosophy lines up with the biblical account
Yes....No, and everything in between.
You really don't need to listen to anything a French intellectual says
Wish I understood. One day though, through the glory of Christ ^^
It sounds quite juvenile, incomplete and self-justifying, in the same league as Lautreamont
Fiction's uninteresting without evil, so fiction is evil? Isn't this what's sometimes known as 'shooting the messenger'? Just because there are Nazis in 'Casablanca' doesn't mean 'Casablanca' is pro-Nazi.
Where I might get on board with the idea is thinking about 'Blue Velvet'. It's like a Hardy Boys mystery made real: the young protagonist pursues the mystery he finds in his home town with prurient glee. 'You like mysteries all that much?' says his appalled girlfriend. 'Yeah!' Ultimately this leads him into voyeurism of sexual violence - in which we, the audience also participate - and then actual participation in that violence. It all gets a bit much and he hurries back to picket-fence normality, but Lynch's point is made: the reader or viewer of the story doesn't just want to see evil to see it punished or condemned, but out of ghoulish fascination and even sadism.
The condition you speak of is the fall, the separation of man and source God, which created the cycle or cycling of all things cut off from their source, creating death which will be abolished. Once the connection is reestablished this is temporary.
☦
Yes! More like an evil ploy to force the Source to feed it a little bit longer in its fallen misery. This is temporary :)
2:18
‘..sacrifice is nothing other than the production of sacred things..’. um…er…yes..’sacra’ ‘fiscio’ ….make sacred😂!
7:19 The first line reminds me of Lilith in Evangelion. I'm basically just something using a human body. There is something incredibly disturbing, borderline unbearable, in the experience of these creatures that remain so infantile and parts fixated. Forest and trees, you do some black box testing and create a model of their mind, really trace it all out, and find a sort of sort of corruption fetish. Anus this, shaft that, life is poop that poops itself and eats poop and so the sun is the biggest pooper of all, blah blah blah. Every day with these people.
Can you say that again
"dath and sax"
i see you have developed quite a taste for methane. cheers!
That picture of the headless man, is a deamon in the wisdom of Solomon book I think it is
Nah it’s Ketu 🙏🏾
It’s an akephaloi. There’s also deep alchemical and Gnostic symbolism in the Akephalos. Severing the head is an act of ritual sacrifice to attain a deeper connection to the numinous.
@@goataghut5066 that’s it’s practically the meaning of Ketu beheading your logical mind to let the subconscious and spiritual flow freely to connect with spirit or daimon
@@uraniancoolery927 fascinating how these ideas are embedded into the subconscious like this. Thank you! I’ll be looking into this.
@@goataghut5066 It's the brainless masses they as marxist would like to use as an transhuman golem to bring the permanent revolution into society.
…very French! - did he live with his mum?
I think there are books, which deserve to be burned :P
All I got to say is Ummmmmmmmmmm. Thanks for this recommendation YT I think …
thx subbed
One day a long time ago carbon became sentient. One Speck of sentience is all that needs to survive in this experiment. Our mission is to send something aimed somewhere which continues the lineage of at least one Speck of sentience. Then we can do this shit all over again. Have a fun Kali Yuga folks!
SOLEIL NOIR : BIEN DE CE TEMPS !
06:30
Trop de........... fini poubelles et ordures : soleil noir, putréfaction.
What a bunch of pretentious BS...
Youre not the brightest lamp either are you?
@@end.olives You can judge my intelligence by my opinion of this shit video. I from the other hand have plenty of material for my judgement. By the way attacking someone's character because you don't like his opinion is very bitchy and not very bright ether;) Why don't you just tell me why you disagree with me?
@@end.olivessilence, coomer.
@@Astavyastataa projecting this time on the morning?
@@end.olivesbrighter than Bataille, because he's right and Bataille Is a midwit.
I stopped listening when something along the lines of, 'authors are evil because interesting stories inherently involve conflict or decadence' was said. Wtf...
thanks for sharing!
Seems like the moment you ask “what the fuck” is when you should listen to gain new perspectives.
@@fancycrafts7774 exactly
@@fancycrafts7774 dont conflate new with useful or good
@@lorenfulghum2393 the "useful" has its limits (^:
I can't take anyone in such a poorly tailored suit seriously.
sounds like a bunch of geeks that had way too much time on their hands
Really true, while it, to me, addresses some valid points, it's the epitome of Bourgeois thought. If I had the time I would inform myself of his understanding of Nietzsche. It puzzles me.
Very male centric POV also.
Anti-intellectualism is a pretty dreadful thing.
So is hyper intellectualism: the head cut of the body. First world problem.
They were all. on a payroll....it loses its shine once one knows this...
@@rigavitch Many of Batailles works were published under his real name only few years after his death so you are wrong..
Ehh…
Nah
What would Jordan Peterson think of this guy ?
he probably wouldn't like him
He probably would go on a rant about it, and reverting back to his ways, he would squander the original material just like he did with nietzsche.
Wondering what a social inept pop culture “thinker” would think of an an incredibly innovative and different kind like Bataille’s? Go see what Nick Land thought about Bataille; Peterson....yawn dude, yawn
i enjoy peterson and his book maps of meaning is a very great work imo i've heard peterson say that bataille was one of the most disgusting people he ever heard of. And i also enjoy batailles work as well.
@@fogpimp Should give you some insight there with his comment; he's good at echo'ing Jung and various Soviet writers, and that's as far as I've ever seen. Besides make your bed, homeboy used to wear capes when he was in college. And I mean legit like Larry David on Seinfeld black cape, the kinda thing Dracula would rock on a cold transylvania night. I don't get how that doesn't immediately make people reconsider getting life advice from again, a dude that unironically wore a cape, and married the first chick that ever gave him the chance. This is now the surrogate male figure for modern beta male existance.
Absolutely disgusting!
What the fuck is this guy talking about....
Thermodynamics, economics, poetry, ethics, eroticism etc etc
Absolute rubbish from start to finish.
yey
That didn't stop you from wearing a Face Diaper 😷
How simplistic, how elementary, how so very uninteresting. Boring!
Projection.
Look at all the NPCs that got the Covid Jabs getting all triggered about this video
yes. the jab was made to keep them asleep
I never got the fake vax and keep an open mind about theories. Maybe that’s why I have nothing in common with normie NPCs.
Just as many, if not more NPC's avoided it. I'm not a fan of the shots, but maybe you should get out more? Vaccine avoidance is not a barometer for being a rebel or an independent thinker. Most reasonable people tend to trust something that the majority of scientists promote over prayer, healing crystals, etc.
disgusting
And?
@@KaliFleshIt's counterproductive to the goal of making the world a peaceful, free, safe place. I understand that lucifericism on the negative polarity is necessary for the existence of a positive polarity in the first place, but why not be luciferian in the positive polarity if you feel like there is too much Ahrimanic inertia. All I'm saying is that the pendulum swing of polarity ought to remain in an equal balance from bad to good to maximise novelty.