I was born in Argentina a country that was under military dictatorship in the 70's and I've heard some stories of women that were kidnapped and they ended up in romantic relationships with their torturer/captor. Trauma can create a bond. The bond is born out of necessity, it is a survival mechanism. I enjoyed your video thanks.
Happened to a lot of the women in the Hells Angels who were considered “property” and had to be available to anyone in the club unless she had an “old man”. Things have been changing since the 70’s in that institution as well.
@@maryellengodfrey truthfully that situation is completely different. The women who hang around the Hell’s Angels willingly insert themselves into the culture, and are well aware of the dangerous environment and type of men that are involved. They are attracted to rebellious assholes who like to fight, fuck, demean women, and curse each other out. Its completely different than a hostage or captive.
They also beat her, raped her, forced her to stay in a closet fouled with her own urine and feces, and brainwashed her -forcing her to repeat whatever Cinque’s ( the leader) said. If she did not do something that her captors wanted her to do she was beaten. At one point , a gun was held to her head.
I feel sorry for anyone who is actually trapped and mentally surrenders to their abusers. When a person gets to that point, their genuine spirit is broken. Thank you for this excellent video, Dr. Grande!!!
Years ago, in my country Costa Rica, two European women tourists were kidnapped by a Nicaraguan paramilitary group. They were kept in the jungle for weeks. The group sent a picture to the newspapers of the leader kissing one of the captives. They were sorrounded by these fierce looking guys armed to the teeth, and her body was rigid. She was enduring the kiss, not returning it. People began babbling about Stockholm Syndrome. As if there was anything the girl could have done to fight off a group of armed men. The women were finally rescued and returned home, but I can only imagine the nightmare, and being blamed for it into the bargain.
Par for the course in crimes against women. The woman victim is responsible for the crime. Wonder what she was wearing? (That’s sarcastic, by the way.)
it sounds like a group of disenchanted unemployed psychotherapists who decided to turn criminals in order to support their 's you tube channel waning popularity .... or something
This case really impacted my life. They say that everyone has a twin. Well, my twin is Patty Hearst! I worked and lived in downtown Portland, OR, where it was put out on the local news that Patty was seen. Not Patty, me! I quit taking walks, or going into the bank. I was very happy when she was caught. I was lucky the police never picked me up! With age, we no longer look alike.
19 years old! I don't know much about her, but I know about being a 19 year old female. Maybe she just made the choice to survive. I think I would have - even if it meant being a participant. I feel sorry for her. That's too much at that age. Thank you Dr Grande. 👍🌹
I remember the Patty Hearst story and the police shoot-out of the SLA hideout vividly. I recall the video of her stating that she had changed her name to "Tanya" and that iconic photo of her standing in front of the SLA flag wearing a beret and holding a rifle. Once again, your analysis is nicely done and illustrates the nature of psychopathology. Thank you so much.
Dear Dr. Grande, what is the psychological profile of a cyber bully? There are people, who invest an astounding amount of energy to "go after" people they do "not like", to bully. Why wasting time, energy to harass someone online? Is it a warped power play or a Form of delusion causing this? Very much appreciate your analyse, thank you for your videos! 🙂🙏
@@xeokym223 Except that they can be less inhibited online because it's easier to hide one's identity and get away with saying things that would likely get a violent reaction in a face to face confrontation. So it would be interesting to hear what Dr Grande thinks of the difference between an IRL bully and some online bullies.
Agreed. I think all of us can do bad at some time or another (and certainly do stupid), but there is something different about people who constantly need to attack - not out of fear, or low self esteem, but plain old meanness (malice).
One way to think of Stockholm Syndrome is as a shift in fundamental attachment patterns. In older people (certainly over 12), these patterns are well-established, and they shift significantly only with major life events. Captivity (as well as combat, cults, chronic illness, etc.) seems in some instances to make sufficient impact to elicit obvious behavior changes. This makes sense to me, in that our earliest attachment "templates" are formed by repeated interactions with those who directly meet our basic needs. If our degree of dependency changes, especially for a long period and with the highest stakes (whatever our definition of that is), it is no surprise that our patterns of relating would, too.
Can I just say that you’re one of my idols, genuinely? I’m an LPC and hope to someday be able to afford to get my doctorate and be half as knowledgeable as you. I work with sex offenders in the prison system and it obviously can just get really stressful, and I’ll watch your videos on break and they really help me distress AND serve as inspiration. Thank you for these videos, they help more than you know.
Trauma Bonding. Sounds like her abuse led her to involve herself in the entire situation. Most people have no idea what Complex Trauma can do to a person.
Abuse messed my brain up so much that I couldn’t make myself leave. I had opportunities but the disassociation and fear prevented me. It wasn’t until I was almost murdered that I finally snapped out of it and escaped
@@PunkBunny56 hi there. I can completely relate to what you replied. I understand how you can be dying to get out and leave the situation but you simply cannot do it. I was stuck like that as well in a very toxic abusive relationship and I kept telling myself get out just leave and I could not do it. I tried everything but I was so wounded and so traumatized from my upbringing that it just changed the way I was as a person completely. I'm so sorry that you had to go through that and that it almost took being murdered until you were able to escape the situation. What got me out was my boyfriend at the time finally just moved and did not put his phone number out in the public so there was no way I knew where he was or how to contact him. But it was still hell for me. I hated myself so much I felt like I was an addict that was addicted to something worse than heroin. And then it happened with other relationships too. I knew to get out I was never being physically abused but it was so toxic. And I just didn't leave, I couldn't leave. And the only people that understood that were my therapists. But ultimately all the therapy did nothing for me. I hope that you have healed and are finding some sense of Freedom now and are making the choices that you need to make to protect yourself. Thank you so much for leaving your reply I really appreciate it. Take good care of yourself and stay strong. As for me I am doing so much better but I am 62 years old now and a lot has changed and I also have found God in my life and that has brought me the most healing of anything. But I tell you those earlier years were a complete hell. Have a great day
Thank you for the interesting video! You should do a personality analysis of Stephen McDaniel! He was found guilty of stalking and eventually murdering a girl that lived next door to him. What's interesting about his case is that firstly, a news reporter revealed to him during a broadcasted interview that the police had found her dismembered body. His facade instantly crumbled and his panic and shocked reaction was recorded in full by the news reporters. Secondly, he seemed to have full control over his own interrogation by remaining perfectly still for over 2 hours. He never broke eye contact with the detectives and responded almost exclusively with "yes" "no" or "I don't know." Even when the detectives left the room, he didn't move an inch and stared at the door until the detectives came back. When the footage is fast forwarded, its truly remarkable to see how impossibly still he was during the entire interrogation. No one seems to be sure as to whether or not this was an intentional strategy, an unintentional defense mechanism or a complete mental breakdown.
Awesome, you crank them out faster than I can suggest them! I can't even take my bath and get ready for work; I have to stop and listen to this first. Work can wait!
I'm curious about the psychology of a Karen Matthews. She is a woman who staged the kidnapping of her own 9 year old daughter Shannon. There was a massive search that went on for weeks and Shannon was found with one of her mother's boyfriends uncles. That case is infamous here in the UK
@@romanesybel8956 it was not long after Madeline McCan. There were 300 officers deployed to find her, 200 volunteers and they closed the local police academy to help with the search. Karen had 7 kids to 5 men so the list of male relatives stood at over 300 men. She was missing for 24 days, and it was understandably all over the news. Karen became known as Britain's most hated mother. I am fascinated to know more about Karen's state of mind. Police think she was after reward money and funds donated by the community. She really confuses me did she think she could get away with it or did she not think it through? How did she get the idea in the first place?
@@user-sr1kc6jj2b-p1q I really cant decide which I believe. Matthews and Donovan (the boyfriend's uncle) really dont seem to have enough brainpower between them to plan a booze up in a brewery. Her police liaisons were flagging her as a suspect pretty much right away. She definitely reveled in the attention but the reward at one point was over £50000.
I think she was brainwashed. Being isolated in a closet and repeatedly sexually assaulted would break anyone. To me this is similar to the book 1984 and what ultimately happened to the protagonist of the story.
In 1973, during a bank robbery in Stockholm, Jan Erik-Olsson took four bank employees hostage and held them for six days, tormenting them with the threat of dynamite and hanging. Yet when they were released, some refused to cooperate with the investigation or to testify against him in court. Not only that, some actively contributed to the financial cost of his defense and appeared to believe that their captor was in fact humane and protecting them from the police. Swedish psychiatrists described a new type of mental disorder: Stockholm Syndrome.
I was in my mid-twenties, living in the Bay Area, at the time Patti was kidnapped and I never believed she was guilty of anything other than trying to stay alive. Thank you, again, for your thoughtful analysis.
She never in a million years would have done criminal acts if she hadn't been tortured and abused. She's actually a very strong person, cause she fought to survive and did.
I love and always look forward to your intro because it's so on point for what you do. Some of us have a natural interest in these topics and genuinely seek an unbiased, fair and scientific view on these events... and i'm so so grateful that you do so with such sincerity, and professionalism... but not without your own brand of humor. Highly entertaining while ALSO being stimulating and informative. One of my favorite channels on the platform! 👍
A very thoughtful and balanced look at a very interesting case. This is the first I've seen from this channel, and I'll definitely be coming back for more, thanks!
Dr. Grande, you never cease to amaze. I'm in awe of your ability to continue to find fascinating and cogent topics to present. I'd buy a box set of all your videos just to own a tangible volume of your work. And also, you would be an awesome narrator or a reader for true crime audio books. Cheers my brother!
Yes! Leopold and Loeb! Leopold was eventually released after some 25 years, married, became a teacher and an author. Supposedly, each man was buried with a picture of the other.
I need friends like Dr. Grande, in this time of social distancing and living online he doesn't know how he's become a friend, the kind you just love listening to because (1) the topic is fascinating and (2) because he is just so chilled. Cudos for your job spreading awareness, educating, and discussing in an impartial and scientific manner complex topics. Much admiration from Germany.
Dr. Grande with another great analysis. Your dry humor in combination with an intelligent and professional look into these topics makes it so interesting!!!! Thank you for keeping these videos coming. You're awesome :)
Synchronicity! My dad brought up this case the other day Hadn't thought about it in years Good analysis Obviously Patty was under duress and had to play along in order to survive... And where can I enroll in " mind reading school?" Thanks Dr G☺
Gives me flashbacks to playing Liberal Crime Squad A text based political satire game where you can literally kidnap, and brainwash people into having stockholm syndrome, rob banks, break into apartments, start your own newspaper and try to make America more liberal... It's one of my favorite games of all time
Your channel has changed so much. It's great. Please consider rerecording your intro to reflect the higher level of audio quality you have now. My speakers and sometimes my ears will be appreciative.
Dr. Grande, my fleece blanket arrived!😊 It’s so cozy and actually bigger than I thought, I love it!!!❤️😍 I will be using it a lot, in NJ there are plenty of opportunities to go under the blanket.😁
Hi Dr. Grande! Good video as usual. Now, I'm not the pistol-packin' mama type, but I shudder to think what I would do if I had been kidnapped and my life was on the line. I've always thought Patty was given a raw deal. There is absolutely no preparation in life for a situation like this, and I don't think she should have been punished for trying to save her own skin. I think she did the best she could with the hand she had been dealt. Thanks again for the video!
This case is compelling and thought provoking. You nailed it when you made the point that people were looking for a clear pathology or disorder as opposed to considering behaviors congruent with her circumstances/environment. Best part of the video: Evidently, the name impulsive, narcissistic criminal squad was already taken. It is such a pleasure to learn and laugh!
Thanks Dr. Grande, the Stockholm syndrome kicks in every time a new video pops up of yours. I have a positive view of the captor, and I engage in your activities, Thankyou 😅😀😅🌹🌹🌹
Hey, Dr. Grande! I love your videos and how you present mental health in a scientifically objective way. I was wondering if you could do a video on "helicopter" or over-controlling parents and how that behavior can effect a child as they develop and grow up?
i was interested in the comments on this one. I was probably junior high to high school age during this and back then, you only had newspapers and the news to hear about stuff so I didn't have a lot of exposure to info. The whole thing never made much sense to me but thanks for covering it!
Hi Dr Grande, could you please do an analysis of Josef Fritzl. He kidnapped his daughter and held her captive in the basement for 24 years. She bore him 7 children, all this happened while the family lived upstairs and never knew. He led a double life, was respected in the community. This took place in Austria about 10 years ago and was a horrific story that made headlines around the world. Thanks Dr Grande, would like to hear your thoughts and insights.
Hello from Melbourne Australia Dr Grande, and thank you for your ongoing work which both educates and entertains. I recently came across a presentation by Dr Vessel van der Kolk regarding the healing of trauma, which he thinks the DSM does not adequately address. Actually, he seems to have little regard for the effectiveness of the DSM. I would be very interested to hear your views on his work. Thank you in advance.
Thank you Dr. Grande for covering the Patty Hearst debacle. I am female and 5.5 yrs younger than Ms. Hearst. This story did not evade my attention as an adolescent female who had a minimal interest in "news" at the time, but I think I pricked my ears more often than usual when I caught a flash of a headline or a voiceover because I was so close to her in terms of gender and age. I can see how you would lead towards to Stockholm syndrome and it certainly does make sense to me. now I may be parading around as a complete idiot because I never followed through and research this ancillary theory/notion I have but, it seems to me that it could be a stroke of genius or a diabolical stroke of genius, capitalistic if you will, if the Patty Hearst story represented much in a tabloid-style, sensationalist, yellow journalism, what-have-you.... if this story manifested and was bandied about consumers' eyes, reporters' and journalists' eyes and filled capitalists' pockets being represented as a mystery or that bottom line of whodunit, sensationalist yellow journalistism. Who's going to benefit from this mystery that's been perpetuated over a protacted number of years. I don't think that the Hearst syndication had any problem finding financial gain in this so called sensationalized, mystery surrounding Patty Hearst. What do you think about that convoluted possibility when you conflate that with the already dubious circumstances surrounding Patty Hearst?
Rosebud. Some great inspiration for topics in the comments. "People struggle to accept that something like that, could remain unconscious." I appreciate you going into detail a bit about Stockholm syndrome. I'd like to understand more about what that could mean too. Meanwhile I'll keep watching older content. Dropping 2 standard deviations in iq is scary, I had never heard intelligence could be so fluid it's not discussed much beyond being tired or stressed. During a long but difficult relationship, I really felt like I had really become dumb and needed guidance. Any mistakes I made/make seemed to cause unproportionate damage too. It's still taking time to adjust and my confidence isn't the same (tbh I'm terrified smoking with my Mr. Weed in my 20s could of had a permanent impact, and would like to hear more about the various effects marijuana use has on different people too and if it's related to personality). I never took an iq test as a kid or adult either. When a kid it was pushed on me by people for the wrong reasons I felt (and it really scared me to have someone put a number on me, or to put belief in that. I never felt special, just responsible. Different, and that was ok but part of my responsibility. Thinking like that made me vulnerable tho I think. Life became much easier when I didnt have so many expectations or clear dreams and just relaxed to approach what may come) I've been putting a lot of thought into genetics and looking into my grandparent's lives and further back too. There may be some OCD and PTSD that runs in the family. Unfortunately nobody is diagnosed with anything and didn't seek treatment much that I know... I'd like to know more about what roles genetics could play. My father heartbrokingly referred a few times to a "family curse". I didn't see that way because I saw the positive impacts my ancestors made on society. I feel he must feel overwhelmed with familiar traits maybe and understanding that has been very important to me. I used to watch a lot of movies but can't remember them well now. I'll relax and watch Citizen Kane that's a great idea. Maybe I can ask a relative to watch with me.
I've been watching the documentary of Prime Video on her ordeal. I still haven't finished watching all the episodes but it is interesting watching the interviews with one of the captors, the journalists that covered the story, the former fiance (who as an old man now seems still traumatized) and the author of a book written about this whole situation. I always look forward to your analysis mixed with your special brand of humor!
If there is such a type, they are probably referring to vulnerable people, psychopaths enjoy exploiting vulnerable people. Non psychopaths are more likely to empathize with a vulnerable person.
Hi Dr. Grande, been a fan of your videos for awhile now, espsecially your series following cases such as this and your other videos on true crime mental health & personality analysis. I wanted to suggest a case that has been particularly interesting for me. You may have heard of the murder of young girl named skylar neese back in 2012 by shelia eddy and rachel shoaf, two classmates that were supposedly two of skylar's best friends. I feel like this case is particularly interesting because it seems that shelia and rachel still haven't given a clear motive other than they simply "didn't like her" but there's got to be more to it then that I think and I would certainly be interested to hear your thoughts on it.
Hi Dr. Grande! Wonderful video, as usually! Could you make a video about Peter Scully, please? He is probably the worst human being I have heard of, and I cannot understand how someone can become so evil. Thanks a lot!
Very interesting! I remember watching the shootout, as a child, as it was being broadcast on live TV & my mom glued to the set, just terrified. Now that I am older, I consider this case to be one of those that being able to throw $$ at the problem, coupled with F. Lee Bailey got her such a light sentence.
Excellent! I am the same age as Ms.Hearst and was horrified when she was kidnapped. It seemed at that time that no one and nothing was safe. As events unfolded, I was sure that she had been doing and saying what she had to to survive. Why did she stay with the Harris couple when she could have escaped? The SLA had told her that her family and society wanted nothing to do with her anymore, so she remained in hiding. This is what abducted children are sometimes told - your parents don't want you anymore..
Oh, Dr. Grande! "Evidently, the name Narcissistic Criminal Army had already been taken", you're killing me with your dead-pan snark! Brilliant. As for your comments about the security guard - hilarious...
Great job. Minor point, I think the SLA had M2 carbines, that could be made selectable auto/semi auto fire. They cranked off a few fully auto fire rounds in a few of the robberies(I think even Patty did it in the sporting goods incident). They were show offs with the robberies, not experienced pros that wanted the least hassle. Made too many contacts that led to the shootout.
I was born in Argentina a country that was under military dictatorship in the 70's and I've heard some stories of women that were kidnapped and they ended up in romantic relationships with their torturer/captor. Trauma can create a bond. The bond is born out of necessity, it is a survival mechanism. I enjoyed your video thanks.
Happened to a lot of the women in the Hells Angels who were considered “property” and had to be available to anyone in the club unless she had an “old man”. Things have been changing since the 70’s in that institution as well.
@@maryellengodfrey truthfully that situation is completely different. The women who hang around the Hell’s Angels willingly insert themselves into the culture, and are well aware of the dangerous environment and type of men that are involved. They are attracted to rebellious assholes who like to fight, fuck, demean women, and curse each other out. Its completely different than a hostage or captive.
I remember reading they kept her in a closet, starved her, wouldnt let her shower. Her kidnappers slowly broke her down.
where did you read that
@@bobbyologun1517 I remember seeing a movie with Natasha Richardson as Patty, it was shown there. Also her book now that I recall.
That's what I always heard. Also, her roommates said she was very malleable.
They also beat her, raped her, forced her to stay in a closet fouled with her own urine and feces, and brainwashed her -forcing her to repeat whatever Cinque’s ( the leader) said. If she did not do something that her captors wanted her to do she was beaten. At one point , a gun was held to her head.
I remembr (as a teen) they kept her in a closet, fed her.. I thought she went along..to survive. *My dad said she knew what she was doing!
I feel sorry for anyone who is actually trapped and mentally surrenders to their abusers. When a person gets to that point, their genuine spirit is broken. Thank you for this excellent video, Dr. Grande!!!
Years ago, in my country Costa Rica, two European women tourists were kidnapped by a Nicaraguan paramilitary group. They were kept in the jungle for weeks. The group sent a picture to the newspapers of the leader kissing one of the captives. They were sorrounded by these fierce looking guys armed to the teeth, and her body was rigid. She was enduring the kiss, not returning it. People began babbling about Stockholm Syndrome. As if there was anything the girl could have done to fight off a group of armed men. The women were finally rescued and returned home, but I can only imagine the nightmare, and being blamed for it into the bargain.
"Las Turbas: who are Nicaragua's pro-government armed groups?" Al Jazeera, by Loes Witschge, Aug 13, 2018
Par for the course in crimes against women. The woman victim is responsible for the crime. Wonder what she was wearing? (That’s sarcastic, by the way.)
That's interesting but has nothing to do with Patty Hearst. It is a bit deceptive to post it here; her story is vastly different.
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@@jamesscott2103 7 what? Are you bragging about your reproductive rights?
it's amazing how quickly you're gaining subscribers, very well deserved of course!
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You are on the cutting edge of understanding.
I love this channel, but just as much the delivery of jokes and sarcasm with a look that suggests dead seriousness.
"Impulsive Narcissistic Criminal Squad" 😂😂😂
Love what you wrote INCS😂🤣💥
it sounds like a group of disenchanted unemployed psychotherapists who decided to turn criminals in order to support their 's you tube channel waning popularity .... or something
Here!
derek kras Waning popularity? Not if you watch his subscribers!
I remember when it happened. I was kid. But, that name, 🤣
This case really impacted my life. They say that everyone has a twin. Well, my twin is Patty Hearst! I worked and lived in downtown Portland, OR, where it was put out on the local news that Patty was seen. Not Patty, me! I quit taking walks, or going into the bank. I was very happy when she was caught. I was lucky the police never picked me up! With age, we no longer look alike.
19 years old! I don't know much about her, but I know about being a 19 year old female. Maybe she just made the choice to survive. I think I would have - even if it meant being a participant. I feel sorry for her. That's too much at that age.
Thank you Dr Grande. 👍🌹
It would be incredibly traumatizing to be kidnapped at any age!
Well considering how people assume if you are young you can't be smart enough to trick adults
You always kill me with your deadpan humor! 😂😂
He's the king of subtle shade, and some not so subtle
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I read your name as Head Boner for. second... oops
I remember the Patty Hearst story and the police shoot-out of the SLA hideout vividly. I recall the video of her stating that she had changed her name to "Tanya" and that iconic photo of her standing in front of the SLA flag wearing a beret and holding a rifle. Once again, your analysis is nicely done and illustrates the nature of psychopathology. Thank you so much.
Dear Dr. Grande, what is the psychological profile of a cyber bully? There are people, who invest an astounding amount of energy to "go after" people they do "not like", to bully.
Why wasting time, energy to harass someone online? Is it a warped power play or a Form of delusion causing this?
Very much appreciate your analyse, thank you for your videos! 🙂🙏
The reasons for cyber-bullying are likely the same reasons people do it IRL.
@@xeokym223 Except that they can be less inhibited online because it's easier to hide one's identity and get away with saying things that would likely get a violent reaction in a face to face confrontation. So it would be interesting to hear what Dr Grande thinks of the difference between an IRL bully and some online bullies.
@@user-sr1kc6jj2b-p1q good point. Internet trolls seem a little different too, like they enjoy the negative attention more.
It's all about power and control...
Agreed. I think all of us can do bad at some time or another (and certainly do stupid), but there is something different about people who constantly need to attack - not out of fear, or low self esteem, but plain old meanness (malice).
One way to think of Stockholm Syndrome is as a shift in fundamental attachment patterns. In older people (certainly over 12), these patterns are well-established, and they shift significantly only with major life events. Captivity (as well as combat, cults, chronic illness, etc.) seems in some instances to make sufficient impact to elicit obvious behavior changes. This makes sense to me, in that our earliest attachment "templates" are formed by repeated interactions with those who directly meet our basic needs. If our degree of dependency changes, especially for a long period and with the highest stakes (whatever our definition of that is), it is no surprise that our patterns of relating would, too.
The last time I was this early, hugging was still allowed.
@Meow Same here.
And kaitlyn jenner was bruce!
Thankfully I dont come early anymore, that was an issue I had as a young man...
@Meow I'll hug you anytime ;)
Even if I don't completely understand this comment - as of yet - it still sounds good enough to like
Can I just say that you’re one of my idols, genuinely? I’m an LPC and hope to someday be able to afford to get my doctorate and be half as knowledgeable as you. I work with sex offenders in the prison system and it obviously can just get really stressful, and I’ll watch your videos on break and they really help me distress AND serve as inspiration. Thank you for these videos, they help more than you know.
Thank you for your hard work!!! What you do is amazing, I’m glad this is a way for you to de-stress, you deserve it!
Evidently the name Impulsive narcissistic criminal squad was already taken" lol
Dr. Grande got jokes
IKR 🤣🤣🤣
Doc your humour makes me want to give you a hug and tell you that it will be okay. Keep it up.
Trauma Bonding. Sounds like her abuse led her to involve herself in the entire situation.
Most people have no idea what Complex Trauma can do to a person.
They don't want to know. They might have to let go of their anger and feel sorry for someone, and their fear of vulnerability is too great.
Abuse messed my brain up so much that I couldn’t make myself leave. I had opportunities but the disassociation and fear prevented me. It wasn’t until I was almost murdered that I finally snapped out of it and escaped
@@PunkBunny56 hi there. I can completely relate to what you replied. I understand how you can be dying to get out and leave the situation but you simply cannot do it. I was stuck like that as well in a very toxic abusive relationship and I kept telling myself get out just leave and I could not do it. I tried everything but I was so wounded and so traumatized from my upbringing that it just changed the way I was as a person completely. I'm so sorry that you had to go through that and that it almost took being murdered until you were able to escape the situation. What got me out was my boyfriend at the time finally just moved and did not put his phone number out in the public so there was no way I knew where he was or how to contact him. But it was still hell for me. I hated myself so much I felt like I was an addict that was addicted to something worse than heroin. And then it happened with other relationships too. I knew to get out I was never being physically abused but it was so toxic. And I just didn't leave, I couldn't leave. And the only people that understood that were my therapists. But ultimately all the therapy did nothing for me. I hope that you have healed and are finding some sense of Freedom now and are making the choices that you need to make to protect yourself. Thank you so much for leaving your reply I really appreciate it. Take good care of yourself and stay strong. As for me I am doing so much better but I am 62 years old now and a lot has changed and I also have found God in my life and that has brought me the most healing of anything. But I tell you those earlier years were a complete hell. Have a great day
She was full of curse words"well there goes my defense If I ever need it.
i'm sure some of that came from the idea of what a young society lady SHOULD be like at that time
I discovered your youtube a couple of weeks ago. My daughter ( a psychotherapist for 10 years now) and I love debating these topics. Thank you
DR GRANDE I HAVE ONE WORD FOR YOU " BRILLIANT ". I really Enjoy your show.👍👍👍
Thank you for the interesting video! You should do a personality analysis of Stephen McDaniel! He was found guilty of stalking and eventually murdering a girl that lived next door to him. What's interesting about his case is that firstly, a news reporter revealed to him during a broadcasted interview that the police had found her dismembered body. His facade instantly crumbled and his panic and shocked reaction was recorded in full by the news reporters. Secondly, he seemed to have full control over his own interrogation by remaining perfectly still for over 2 hours. He never broke eye contact with the detectives and responded almost exclusively with "yes" "no" or "I don't know." Even when the detectives left the room, he didn't move an inch and stared at the door until the detectives came back. When the footage is fast forwarded, its truly remarkable to see how impossibly still he was during the entire interrogation. No one seems to be sure as to whether or not this was an intentional strategy, an unintentional defense mechanism or a complete mental breakdown.
Great vids Dr Grande really enjoy them.
Awesome, you crank them out faster than I can suggest them! I can't even take my bath and get ready for work; I have to stop and listen to this first. Work can wait!
I would like to know aBout the psychology of someone who stages their own disappearance
I'm curious about the psychology of a Karen Matthews. She is a woman who staged the kidnapping of her own 9 year old daughter Shannon. There was a massive search that went on for weeks and Shannon was found with one of her mother's boyfriends uncles. That case is infamous here in the UK
@@paulamchristie what the hell ! Sorry but.... Damn!
@@romanesybel8956 it was not long after Madeline McCan. There were 300 officers deployed to find her, 200 volunteers and they closed the local police academy to help with the search. Karen had 7 kids to 5 men so the list of male relatives stood at over 300 men. She was missing for 24 days, and it was understandably all over the news. Karen became known as Britain's most hated mother. I am fascinated to know more about Karen's state of mind. Police think she was after reward money and funds donated by the community. She really confuses me did she think she could get away with it or did she not think it through? How did she get the idea in the first place?
@@paulamchristie Interesting! Attention-seeking or just a scammer?
@@user-sr1kc6jj2b-p1q I really cant decide which I believe. Matthews and Donovan (the boyfriend's uncle) really dont seem to have enough brainpower between them to plan a booze up in a brewery. Her police liaisons were flagging her as a suspect pretty much right away. She definitely reveled in the attention but the reward at one point was over £50000.
I think she was brainwashed. Being isolated in a closet and repeatedly sexually assaulted would break anyone. To me this is similar to the book 1984 and what ultimately happened to the protagonist of the story.
Fascinating cases! would like to see something on the origin of Stockholm syndrome and what case is its namesake.
In 1973, during a bank robbery in Stockholm, Jan Erik-Olsson took four bank employees hostage and held them for six days, tormenting them with the threat of dynamite and hanging. Yet when they were released, some refused to cooperate with the investigation or to testify against him in court. Not only that, some actively contributed to the financial cost of his defense and appeared to believe that their captor was in fact humane and protecting them from the police. Swedish psychiatrists described a new type of mental disorder: Stockholm Syndrome.
I enjoy watching your analysis, you should get a tv show 😀
Exactly, we really need for him to get on educational television....ASAP!!!
I was in my mid-twenties, living in the Bay Area, at the time Patti was kidnapped and I never believed she was guilty of anything other than trying to stay alive. Thank you, again, for your thoughtful analysis.
Yes absolutely
She never in a million years would have done criminal acts if she hadn't been tortured and abused. She's actually a very strong person, cause she fought to survive and did.
She wasn’t tortured I believe. Just kidnapped
@@usdepartmentofthetreasury489 "just kidnapped"? Sure, no big deal, huh?
😂 your humor makes these easier to watch. Very well placed
omg Dr. Grande is absolutely priceless! He is the only one who can look at this stuff with such perfect logic and reason AND massive comic relief!!!
I was 6 & 7 years old & knew intuitively that Patty Hearst's conviction was wrong. She's done amazingly well for what happened to her.
As a 19 year old female, I probably would have done whatever I needed to do to stay alive!
Watching your videos has become part of my regular morning routine! Thanks for the amazing videos!
Another wonderfully put together piece, Thank you Dr. Grande ♡I always adore your witty jabs!
I love and always look forward to your intro because it's so on point for what you do. Some of us have a natural interest in these topics and genuinely seek an unbiased, fair and scientific view on these events... and i'm so so grateful that you do so with such sincerity, and professionalism... but not without your own brand of humor. Highly entertaining while ALSO being stimulating and informative. One of my favorite channels on the platform! 👍
Dear Dr Grande
Please make one video about - clouding of consciousness , i.e. brain fog
A very thoughtful and balanced look at a very interesting case. This is the first I've seen from this channel, and I'll definitely be coming back for more, thanks!
Informative analysis of a complex case made even more enjoyable to watch with your deadpan humor.😄
“Traveled in a van” lol I immediately thought of Chris Farley “Living In a Van down by the River”🤣
Dr. Grande’s subtle shade is everything.
Dr. Grande, you never cease to amaze. I'm in awe of your ability to continue to find fascinating and cogent topics to present. I'd buy a box set of all your videos just to own a tangible volume of your work. And also, you would be an awesome narrator or a reader for true crime audio books. Cheers my brother!
As long as we’re going vintage, we need Leopold and Loeb need the Dr Grande business ASAP!
Yes! Leopold and Loeb! Leopold was eventually released after some 25 years, married, became a teacher and an author. Supposedly, each man was buried with a picture of the other.
You're getting more derisively hilarious with every video, Dr. Grande. Bravo. Very entertaining as well as informative.
I need friends like Dr. Grande, in this time of social distancing and living online he doesn't know how he's become a friend, the kind you just love listening to because (1) the topic is fascinating and (2) because he is just so chilled. Cudos for your job spreading awareness, educating, and discussing in an impartial and scientific manner complex topics. Much admiration from Germany.
Dr. Grande with another great analysis. Your dry humor in combination with an intelligent and professional look into these topics makes it so interesting!!!! Thank you for keeping these videos coming. You're awesome :)
Very Interesting breakdown. There's a lot more going on with this situation than I'd originally thought...🖤🦋
she knew donald defreeze before. The only reason she broke it off with him was he suggested kidnapping her and her sisters.
Great job, Dr. Grande. I always feel a little smarter after your videos. Take care.
Synchronicity! My dad brought up this case the other day Hadn't thought about it in years Good analysis Obviously Patty was under duress and had to play along in order to survive... And where can I enroll in " mind reading school?" Thanks Dr G☺
“Evidently the name Impulsive Narcissistic Criminal Squad was already taken” bahahaha 🤣🤣🤣
Gives me flashbacks to playing Liberal Crime Squad
A text based political satire game where you can literally kidnap, and brainwash people into having stockholm syndrome, rob banks, break into apartments, start your own newspaper and try to make America more liberal...
It's one of my favorite games of all time
Funny!
Your channel has changed so much. It's great. Please consider rerecording your intro to reflect the higher level of audio quality you have now. My speakers and sometimes my ears will be appreciative.
Thank you once again Dr. Grande, extremely well executed 🥰
Dr. Grande, my fleece blanket arrived!😊
It’s so cozy and actually bigger than I thought, I love it!!!❤️😍
I will be using it a lot, in NJ there are plenty of opportunities to go under the blanket.😁
Dr. G's jokes always catch me by surprise. I love it!
Thank you Dr Grande for this I can’t watch as it will seriously trigger me however I know you will cover this with integrity xxx
Oh Stockholm Syndrome, that's a pretty interesting topic!
Thanks for the great video!
Hi Dr. Grande! Good video as usual. Now, I'm not the pistol-packin' mama type, but I shudder to think what I would do if I had been kidnapped and my life was on the line. I've always thought Patty was given a raw deal. There is absolutely no preparation in life for a situation like this, and I don't think she should have been punished for trying to save her own skin. I think she did the best she could with the hand she had been dealt. Thanks again for the video!
Excellent analysis, as usual.
Great video Dr Grande
Fabulous video - thank you 😊
This case is compelling and thought provoking. You nailed it when you made the point that people were looking for a clear pathology or disorder as opposed to considering behaviors congruent with her circumstances/environment. Best part of the video: Evidently, the name impulsive, narcissistic criminal squad was already taken. It is such a pleasure to learn and laugh!
Great content again..my cat is watching it with me lolololol!
As long as the cat isn't taking notes . . .
@@MasterMalrubius she is impressed LOL
I can relate to that....an unpaid parking ticket is crossing the line 😬!!
Thank you Dr Grande for another informative and entertaining analysis!!❤️
Hopefully Dr Grande will also offer an analysis of the Elizabeth Smart case and the Jaycee Dugard case.
Thanks Dr. Grande, the Stockholm syndrome kicks in every time a new video pops up of yours.
I have a positive view of the captor, and I engage in your activities, Thankyou 😅😀😅🌹🌹🌹
Hey, Dr. Grande! I love your videos and how you present mental health in a scientifically objective way. I was wondering if you could do a video on "helicopter" or over-controlling parents and how that behavior can effect a child as they develop and grow up?
i was interested in the comments on this one. I was probably junior high to high school age during this and back then, you only had newspapers and the news to hear about stuff so I didn't have a lot of exposure to info. The whole thing never made much sense to me but thanks for covering it!
omg Dr Grande is the best! so interesting
Thank you. Fascinating video presentation and enjoyed the unexpected moments of levity. ;-)
Wow, this is a fascinating case to study!! I'm surprised !!! 😀 👍
Your humor gets me rolling, lol. Something in your delivery is so funny, haha.
Hi Dr Grande, could you please do an analysis of Josef Fritzl. He kidnapped his daughter and held her captive in the basement for 24 years. She bore him 7 children, all this happened while the family lived upstairs and never knew. He led a double life, was respected in the community. This took place in Austria about 10 years ago and was a horrific story that made headlines around the world. Thanks Dr Grande, would like to hear your thoughts and insights.
Hello from Melbourne Australia Dr Grande, and thank you for your ongoing work which both educates and entertains. I recently came across a presentation by Dr Vessel van der Kolk regarding the healing of trauma, which he thinks the DSM does not adequately address. Actually, he seems to have little regard for the effectiveness of the DSM. I would be very interested to hear your views on his work.
Thank you in advance.
Thank you Dr. Grande for covering the Patty Hearst debacle. I am female and 5.5 yrs younger than Ms. Hearst. This story did not evade my attention as an adolescent female who had a minimal interest in "news" at the time, but I think I pricked my ears more often than usual when I caught a flash of a headline or a voiceover because I was so close to her in terms of gender and age. I can see how you would lead towards to Stockholm syndrome and it certainly does make sense to me. now I may be parading around as a complete idiot because I never followed through and research this ancillary theory/notion I have but, it seems to me that it could be a stroke of genius or a diabolical stroke of genius, capitalistic if you will, if the Patty Hearst story represented much in a tabloid-style, sensationalist, yellow journalism, what-have-you.... if this story manifested and was bandied about consumers' eyes, reporters' and journalists' eyes and filled capitalists' pockets being represented as a mystery or that bottom line of whodunit, sensationalist yellow journalistism. Who's going to benefit from this mystery that's been perpetuated over a protacted number of years. I don't think that the Hearst syndication had any problem finding financial gain in this so called sensationalized, mystery surrounding Patty Hearst. What do you think about that convoluted possibility when you conflate that with the already dubious circumstances surrounding Patty Hearst?
I appreciate this review. I was employed by the LAFD as paramedic at that time and responded to that incident.
Wow ! that must have been interesting. I remember the case, but had forgotten the details.
Rosebud.
Some great inspiration for topics in the comments.
"People struggle to accept that something like that, could remain unconscious."
I appreciate you going into detail a bit about Stockholm syndrome. I'd like to understand more about what that could mean too. Meanwhile I'll keep watching older content.
Dropping 2 standard deviations in iq is scary, I had never heard intelligence could be so fluid it's not discussed much beyond being tired or stressed.
During a long but difficult relationship, I really felt like I had really become dumb and needed guidance. Any mistakes I made/make seemed to cause unproportionate damage too. It's still taking time to adjust and my confidence isn't the same (tbh I'm terrified smoking with my Mr. Weed in my 20s could of had a permanent impact, and would like to hear more about the various effects marijuana use has on different people too and if it's related to personality).
I never took an iq test as a kid or adult either. When a kid it was pushed on me by people for the wrong reasons I felt (and it really scared me to have someone put a number on me, or to put belief in that. I never felt special, just responsible. Different, and that was ok but part of my responsibility.
Thinking like that made me vulnerable tho I think. Life became much easier when I didnt have so many expectations or clear dreams and just relaxed to approach what may come)
I've been putting a lot of thought into genetics and looking into my grandparent's lives and further back too. There may be some OCD and PTSD that runs in the family. Unfortunately nobody is diagnosed with anything and didn't seek treatment much that I know... I'd like to know more about what roles genetics could play. My father heartbrokingly referred a few times to a "family curse". I didn't see that way because I saw the positive impacts my ancestors made on society. I feel he must feel overwhelmed with familiar traits maybe and understanding that has been very important to me.
I used to watch a lot of movies but can't remember them well now. I'll relax and watch Citizen Kane that's a great idea. Maybe I can ask a relative to watch with me.
Patty Hearst, noting new about this story.....you and I pay the price.
I've been watching the documentary of Prime Video on her ordeal. I still haven't finished watching all the episodes but it is interesting watching the interviews with one of the captors, the journalists that covered the story, the former fiance (who as an old man now seems still traumatized) and the author of a book written about this whole situation.
I always look forward to your analysis mixed with your special brand of humor!
A fascinating case: I too grew up very privileged. She matched my age. At that age I became a left wing radical. Thanks for reviewing it.
Thanks for nailing the kind of comedy that ThatChapter can't seem to figure out.
Here, it works without sounding dissonant or inappropriate
"Where did they get the name SLA?" Evidently, the name impulsive, narcissistic, criminal squad was already taken." LOL
Impulsive Narcissistic Criminal Squad😂😂😂Omg your humor Dr. Grande is delightful! This one just made my day.
I love your dry sense of humour: I laughed out loud at the parking ticket segment!
great insight
Thank you,,you persuaded my opinion here.
"Impulsive Narcissistic Criminal Squad was already taken"
Ok that's the last time I eat vanilla sugar wafers while watching your videos.
I actually CACKLED when you said "mind reading school". Oh my god. 😂😂
....eager to show off his recently acquired skills at mind-reading school........ Love it!
Question: is there a personality type that is “the perfect victim”? (Some psychopath’s have hinted that they look for this “type”.)
If there is such a type, they are probably referring to vulnerable people, psychopaths enjoy exploiting vulnerable people. Non psychopaths are more likely to empathize with a vulnerable person.
Hi Dr. Grande, been a fan of your videos for awhile now, espsecially your series following cases such as this and your other videos on true crime mental health & personality analysis. I wanted to suggest a case that has been particularly interesting for me. You may have heard of the murder of young girl named skylar neese back in 2012 by shelia eddy and rachel shoaf, two classmates that were supposedly two of skylar's best friends. I feel like this case is particularly interesting because it seems that shelia and rachel still haven't given a clear motive other than they simply "didn't like her" but there's got to be more to it then that I think and I would certainly be interested to hear your thoughts on it.
Hi Dr. Grande! Wonderful video, as usually! Could you make a video about Peter Scully, please? He is probably the worst human being I have heard of, and I cannot understand how someone can become so evil. Thanks a lot!
Thank you
Very interesting! I remember watching the shootout, as a child, as it was being broadcast on live TV & my mom glued to the set, just terrified. Now that I am older, I consider this case to be one of those that being able to throw $$ at the problem, coupled with F. Lee Bailey got her such a light sentence.
Excellent! I am the same age as Ms.Hearst and was horrified when she was kidnapped. It seemed at that time that no one and nothing was safe. As events unfolded, I was sure that she had been doing and saying what she had to to survive. Why did she stay with the Harris couple when she could have escaped? The SLA had told her that her family and society wanted nothing to do with her anymore, so she remained in hiding. This is what abducted children are sometimes told - your parents don't want you anymore..
Oh, Dr. Grande! "Evidently, the name Narcissistic Criminal Army had already been taken", you're killing me with your dead-pan snark! Brilliant. As for your comments about the security guard - hilarious...
I remember this case. I agree with your analysis.
Great job. Minor point, I think the SLA had M2 carbines, that could be made selectable auto/semi auto fire. They cranked off a few fully auto fire rounds in a few of the robberies(I think even Patty did it in the sporting goods incident). They were show offs with the robberies, not experienced pros that wanted the least hassle. Made too many contacts that led to the shootout.
Well done, again. You are a "must have" legal advocate. I wish we could duplicate your reasoning ability.
In a world such as this your brain is a ray of rational light.
❤️🎦👍
Keep up good work!