i prefer water based now i never thought id say this after being on solvent most of my career but i get cleaner jobs no reactions etc and coverage is better imo 👍👍
I really enjoy the long videos. I’m going to have to watch a lot of your videos I’ve seen a lot of paint videos on RUclips and paint society mentioned you so that’s how I found your channel.
@@TheHumblePaintSprayer333 hmm I can’t remember the videos name but he briefly mentioned when he started he didn’t go to school and his main teachers where yours and the gunmans videos. You guys I think have had your channels the longest from what I’ve seen. Was maybe a month or couple months ago.
😂 it can be a pain being a short ass doing this job sometimes, roofs and vans man not my favourite, on the other hand i have good leg room on a plane ✈️ Cheers Man
Fantastic information in the video. I would rather watch a long video if you are sharing your vast experience and knowledge rather than a short video. I think it's great that you used solvent just so we can learn. Just need a 2k direct video now please. I learnt loads from this video. I would also love a video using a spray gun that a diy person could relate more to.
Many thanks, I do have a couple of direct gloss videos on the channel, a old VW Golf video is fairly recent, I have got footage of one that will be out soon and have a video with different guns coming out soon as well 👍
After 47yrs using solvent and not having a booth i don't think i'll ever use water . I only use water on my airbrushing and i've always try and ajust to new methods off painting but waterbase on day to day jobs is not for me in my set up . Great vid 👍
Been painting solvent for years at specialist shop doing only bespoke colour changes until i started doing peelable paint also and it only worked with water scheme absolutely hated it but i now love it lol dont think i could go back to solvent now.. only used mipa once in solvent now currently using sikkens autowave 2.0. Also tried spies hecker and glasurit which is one of the older brands top stuff.
Lovely job Jason, fantastic shine on that and a nice deep colour. Is it my imagination or is Solvent base coat a lot thicker/ heavier than water base coat ? It certainly seems thicker coming out the gun . Thanks for sharing as always mate. Cheers Vince.
Hi Jason, I found this very interesting hearing your thoughts about the pros and cons of each system, I have the Kapci mini solvent paint scheme and while I really like the results I would like to learn to use water basecoat, I have used it in my little homemade booth in my workshop but drying it was always a big problem for me even when I used a hairdryer it still took ages but back then I didn't have any heat but I've now got an indirect diesel heater which is ideal for solvent basecoat. I've never seen the thinners you used in the basecoat before do you think it would work in my Kapci scheme Jason? now I have heat in my booth I use slow thinners all year round but if the Mipa thinners would give a better finish I'll give it a try🤔 Thanks for sharing this mate and I love the longer videos👍
Water will dry no problem on small areas with a hairdryer as long as you have it on a heat setting, Im not sure if that thinners would work im sure it would can't see why not Thank you mate 👍
Hello from Greece mate... Everything you said on this video is absolutely wright for Mipa...I have Mipa solvent base mixing system....I don't have problems with color match....I used every day and for me solvent is better for a productive shop ...I am thinking also the Mipa water system....I have paint some overall with water and it is very good....The problem with solvent for me is the control coat...On two coats the surface is perfect and smooth.... When i apply the control coat became like sand even with slow reducer....I also use the stabilizier and it helps....Also i have problems with all mipa clears...Next day lose the gloss and for this i use Standox or Greek HB Body for no problems.... Cc9 dry good and hard but next day I don't like it... Cx2 and Cs44 i think it's their best clears.... Sorry for my big message...😊
Hello Greece mate hope your well, yeah it does cause a bit a sand piling and make it slightly rougher than water, its a characteristic of most solvent base coats but doesn't affect the clear much, maybe minimal shrinkage on the clear compared to water I get on really well with CC9 i love it, i thin 3% on the scales and put a good first coat on I do like the CX2 but CC9 has better gloss for sure, if your losing gloss on them maybe the base coat isn't dried through completely, or could be your climate with humidity, i had this issue with the water, i wasn't dehydrating it fully and skinning it over, CC9 is not good for quick production work CX2 is better for that, but CC9 polishes nicer and gloss is nicer just needs a bake for 30 mins, i leave it for a good 15-20 mins before i put it on bake, it takes a while to air dry This week ive used CX2, CC9 and CC14 Thix back to back, I'm not sure on the CC14 atm, its cloudy in the pot but gloss is great i need to try some more yet Thanks for you comment 🙏
@@TheHumblePaintSprayer333 I have also tried the Cc 14....I find it quite thicker but the result on a hood was like flow coat....I don't have gloss problems with Standox and Body...I leave the base to dry on time...I think mipa clears is better for colder countries like yours... Here is 25 September and it's 31 degrees and lot days with high humidity....I have try all their clears ..c75 Cs 85...cs90 cs 95 Cc7 Cc 8 CC 9 Cc 12 cs174 cx2 Cx4 Cs44.....I am tired... hahaha 🤣....
@@dujakovichdanijel👍drop coat can have a small affect on colour it’s more for making the appearance of the metallics look even and so the colour doesn’t look blotchy or patchy
Back in my time a taller car we would take the wheels off and put them back in the morning as often I would paint a car a f### off home with the thinners knocking you out after cleaning the gun lol
Hi, enjoy your videos, the only thing I am surprised about, having all the top Sata guns, why don’t you use an air fed mask. The rubber charcoal cartridge respirators don’t protect you enough from isocyanates.
Thank you for this comment, your so right i haven’t been using my air fed because of the head mount camera but i know I’ve needed to so this has made me look in to other ways to use the camera and I’m getting a crash helmet mount so i can mount it to my visor, hopefully it works Thanks again 🙏
JAY HOWS THAT YOU GOT A COLOUR MATCH WITH USING PRO BASE COAT PAINT BLENDER I HAVE HAD 5 LOTS OF BASE COAT PAINT AND CARNT GET A COLOUR MATCH 😀 ITS COMES OUT LUNA SKY MATE HE TOO 2 PICTURES OFF THE PANELS STILL NO LOOK ANY ADVICE 😊
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i prefer water based now i never thought id say this after being on solvent most of my career but i get cleaner jobs no reactions etc and coverage is better imo 👍👍
yeah definitely 👍 i find blending better with water too
I really enjoy the long videos. I’m going to have to watch a lot of your videos I’ve seen a lot of paint videos on RUclips and paint society mentioned you so that’s how I found your channel.
Thanks i appreciate it, did he when did he do that i always watch his videos
@@TheHumblePaintSprayer333 hmm I can’t remember the videos name but he briefly mentioned when he started he didn’t go to school and his main teachers where yours and the gunmans videos. You guys I think have had your channels the longest from what I’ve seen. Was maybe a month or couple months ago.
Might not of been me as I've only had my channel less than a year, but all good thank you 🙏
@@TheHumblePaintSprayer333 I thought he said you… I’m probably wrong. I watch to many paint videos haha
No booth just garage ❤️🙏
being vertically challenged 😂😂😂😂 nearly spat my drink over the screen 🤣🤣🤣🤣 great video mate 💪🏻
😂 it can be a pain being a short ass doing this job sometimes, roofs and vans man not my favourite, on the other hand i have good leg room on a plane ✈️ Cheers Man
Fantastic information in the video. I would rather watch a long video if you are sharing your vast experience and knowledge rather than a short video. I think it's great that you used solvent just so we can learn. Just need a 2k direct video now please. I learnt loads from this video. I would also love a video using a spray gun that a diy person could relate more to.
Many thanks, I do have a couple of direct gloss videos on the channel, a old VW Golf video is fairly recent, I have got footage of one that will be out soon and have a video with different guns coming out soon as well 👍
@@TheHumblePaintSprayer333 I've no idea how I missed the golf video. I'll give it a watch. Thanks 👍
After 47yrs using solvent and not having a booth i don't think i'll ever use water . I only use water on my airbrushing and i've always try and ajust to new methods off painting but waterbase on day to day jobs is not for me in my set up . Great vid 👍
Thanks mate water can be tricky on the bigger jobs without a booth 👍
fantastic job, mate! 😍
If only it was as easy as you make it look. 10/10
Cheers mate 👍
Looks great. And thank you for the explanation of the solvent vs water. I've never srayed water so it's interesting to hear. Thank you sir 💪🏼
Thank you man for taking the time to watch, you would get on with water no problem 🙏
@@TheHumblePaintSprayer333 I'm scared of water 😰🥹
Dont be scared mate, best thing to do is dive right in your soon learn to swim
Amazing job on the car and the video. You have taught me so much in the voice over. Thank you for all your efforts. 👍👍👍👍
Glad to help Thank you 🙏
Prefer the longer vids if I’m honest J it seems to hold holds my interest better . Car looks nice mate lovely job nice colour to 👍
I agree with other comments that the longer vids are best mate. Keep em coming!
Cheers that’s good cos I’m not too good and doing shorter one 😂👍
Keep em long and keep on waffling. It’s a winning combo in my humble opinion
Great job mate great explanation of what you do and how you do the job keep them coming.👍👍👍
Thanks, will do! many thanks 🙏
👌🏻
Cheers man 👍
As always enjoyed that,
Looks amazing!
Many thanks 🙏
+1 vote for waffle, cheers bud
Cheers Man 👍
Been painting solvent for years at specialist shop doing only bespoke colour changes until i started doing peelable paint also and it only worked with water scheme absolutely hated it but i now love it lol dont think i could go back to solvent now.. only used mipa once in solvent now currently using sikkens autowave 2.0. Also tried spies hecker and glasurit which is one of the older brands top stuff.
Go on point and turn the pressure down some and do the roof. That’s how I do the roof on boats
Lovely job Jason, fantastic shine on that and a nice deep colour.
Is it my imagination or is Solvent base coat a lot thicker/ heavier than water base coat ?
It certainly seems thicker coming out the gun .
Thanks for sharing as always mate.
Cheers
Vince.
Cheers Vince, its the other way water is a bit thicker than solvent when thinned
Hi Jason, I found this very interesting hearing your thoughts about the pros and cons of each system, I have the Kapci mini solvent paint scheme and while I really like the results I would like to learn to use water basecoat, I have used it in my little homemade booth in my workshop but drying it was always a big problem for me even when I used a hairdryer it still took ages but back then I didn't have any heat but I've now got an indirect diesel heater which is ideal for solvent basecoat.
I've never seen the thinners you used in the basecoat before do you think it would work in my Kapci scheme Jason? now I have heat in my booth I use slow thinners all year round but if the Mipa thinners would give a better finish I'll give it a try🤔
Thanks for sharing this mate and I love the longer videos👍
Water will dry no problem on small areas with a hairdryer as long as you have it on a heat setting, Im not sure if that thinners would work im sure it would can't see why not
Thank you mate 👍
Ok thanks for the advice Jason👍
Solvent for me mate
Hello from Greece mate... Everything you said on this video is absolutely wright for Mipa...I have Mipa solvent base mixing system....I don't have problems with color match....I used every day and for me solvent is better for a productive shop ...I am thinking also the Mipa water system....I have paint some overall with water and it is very good....The problem with solvent for me is the control coat...On two coats the surface is perfect and smooth.... When i apply the control coat became like sand even with slow reducer....I also use the stabilizier and it helps....Also i have problems with all mipa clears...Next day lose the gloss and for this i use Standox or Greek HB Body for no problems.... Cc9 dry good and hard but next day I don't like it... Cx2 and Cs44 i think it's their best clears.... Sorry for my big message...😊
Hello Greece mate hope your well, yeah it does cause a bit a sand piling and make it slightly rougher than water, its a characteristic of most solvent base coats but doesn't affect the clear much, maybe minimal shrinkage on the clear compared to water
I get on really well with CC9 i love it, i thin 3% on the scales and put a good first coat on
I do like the CX2 but CC9 has better gloss for sure, if your losing gloss on them maybe the base coat isn't dried through completely, or could be your climate with humidity, i had this issue with the water, i wasn't dehydrating it fully and skinning it over, CC9 is not good for quick production work CX2 is better for that, but CC9 polishes nicer and gloss is nicer just needs a bake for 30 mins, i leave it for a good 15-20 mins before i put it on bake, it takes a while to air dry
This week ive used CX2, CC9 and CC14 Thix back to back, I'm not sure on the CC14 atm, its cloudy in the pot but gloss is great i need to try some more yet
Thanks for you comment 🙏
@@TheHumblePaintSprayer333 I have also tried the Cc 14....I find it quite thicker but the result on a hood was like flow coat....I don't have gloss problems with Standox and Body...I leave the base to dry on time...I think mipa clears is better for colder countries like yours... Here is 25 September and it's 31 degrees and lot days with high humidity....I have try all their clears ..c75 Cs 85...cs90 cs 95 Cc7 Cc 8 CC 9 Cc 12 cs174 cx2 Cx4 Cs44.....I am tired... hahaha 🤣....
Sorry but what happens if you don't apply drop coat, is color off?
@@dujakovichdanijel👍drop coat can have a small affect on colour it’s more for making the appearance of the metallics look even and so the colour doesn’t look blotchy or patchy
Back in my time a taller car we would take the wheels off and put them back in the morning as often I would paint a car a f### off home with the thinners knocking you out after cleaning the gun lol
YHWH Almighty bless you brother 👍❤️👑🙏
Hi, enjoy your videos, the only thing I am surprised about, having all the top Sata guns, why don’t you use an air fed mask. The rubber charcoal cartridge respirators don’t protect you enough from isocyanates.
Thank you for this comment, your so right i haven’t been using my air fed because of the head mount camera but i know I’ve needed to so this has made me look in to other ways to use the camera and I’m getting a crash helmet mount so i can mount it to my visor, hopefully it works
Thanks again 🙏
JAY HOWS THAT YOU GOT A COLOUR MATCH WITH USING PRO BASE COAT PAINT BLENDER I HAVE HAD 5 LOTS OF BASE COAT PAINT AND CARNT GET A COLOUR MATCH 😀 ITS COMES OUT LUNA SKY MATE HE TOO 2 PICTURES OFF THE PANELS STILL NO LOOK ANY ADVICE 😊
How tall are you?
5ft 6 😩
Heat gun on waterbase? 😀🙏❤️
Better with a hair dryer than heat gun on water base
which is better for a mirror finish after polish
Either it’s the same clear coat over them so will do the same job