I'll add to what Trickster said (which is pretty much spot on advice), really look at and consider the condition on a card to trigger the effect. You need to really understand how often you will be able to get that condition to be able to get the effect AND when it happens. A sabotage is worse 'At Dusk' than from the hand for instance. Alot of people are going crazy over effects rather than understanding conditions for the deck that you are going to want to play.
@@gavkenny sabotage at dusk is the biggest trap ever. I think a lot of people don't understand all of the phases yet and think it will work like Ordis Legate. For anyone who doesn't know dusk is when you compare expeditions which is after you've made all of your plays and before cards go to reserve... a horrible time to sabotage 😆
I'll also add that the catagories that Tricker uses for Uniques are similar to mine except I have a catagory above great called Bonkers which has these very few Uniques that go for a very higher price. I divide Great off at about 50-100 Euro and anything over 100 Euro would be in my Bonkers catagory (but bear in mind that I've seen things that I'd barely class as Great go for Bonkers amounts, so don't over pay.
Hey Trickster! Great video first of all, pretty solid reasoning for all your price points, good on you to protect oblivious buyers/sellers. One thing that struck me as odd was the value multiplier between ks and retail boxes... With the ability to sell foilers and chase cards separately or just digitally, I would say that the box value is more determined by what you can sell the components for, than what they're worth to you. In that respect, ks boxes ought to be closer to 2x value with all the exclusive stuff (imo)
@@Chamos_games this is a good point! I think they are worth around 1.5 to 2 depending on the buyer. If you will resell you can probably get more out of a display than some people will but for buyers that don't care about cosmetics and who will keep everything and don't want to go trough the trouble of reselling it might not be worth as much to them. Also the prices I listed are the ranges I see the two types of displays going for, but they may not reflect their true worth which means educated buyers may be able to get a good deal!
I think the best uniques will be the ones that give you a 4th of another existing rare. Ex. I’ve hit a spindle harvester in Yzmir that is effectively a 4th mage-dancer and there may be better BUT if Afanas sees play people might just need it and not a « better mage-dancer » for instance
You can't run more than 3 copies of a card with the same name, regardless of rarity. So if your build has 3 R-Spindles, then you'd have to drop one if you wanted to run a U-Spindle.
If I run Afanas I prefer having 3 rare mage-dancers and a unique spindle that act as a mage-dancer than having one of my mage-dancer as a unique as it is already one of the best card in my deck. And I guess the very best deck will have 6 copies of the best card by having 3 rares + other characters with weird variations
@@kaba9926 this is a good point. Replacing a weaker card with a powerful unique could definitely do more for your deck than replacing something that is already strong. I've also seen that some of the better rares have worse uniques on average while other less popular names seem great as uniques. Hopefully this let's more of the names see play in the top decks!
Personally I will wait for a at least a month after release before buying anything. This weekend I am going to a sealed event, so let's see how I feel about this game first
@@Xerpadon nice, seems like a good call! I see some ks displays on the Discord marketplace that look like they're from Europe and go for around 210-220 but you always have to pay shipping too :/
I just sold a lot of cards for 2€ per rare and 1€ per 8 common, wich is okay for most people in france as a disply is around ~280€ (around ~140 rare per display)
@@Theninja974 nice, sounds like a good deal. I think the prices may drop once everyone can put their cards on the global marketplace so it's a good time to try and get something out of your commons and rares.
@@jujurinka6719 hello! There is a website that has a lot of singles but the prices they use aren't necessarily 100% accurate. Some cards are priced high and don't move and others that seem like good deals sell out. Gamers Guild Altered Singles gamersguildazcards.com/collections/altered-tcg-digital-singles
Hello! You can already transfer cards to your friends in the app. A lot of people make posts on Facebook or Discord and then add the buyer as a friend in the app to transfer digital ownership.
I’m in America and just got my shipment from the kickstarter. I’m debating keeping the boxes closed instead of cracking them, but I was wondering if you had any thoughts on that. If the game takes off, the kickstarter displays will be a pretty penny, no?
I think it is a lot more common to speculate on TCGs now and it will take a while to drain all of the stores and backers before prices would ever get really really high but if you are patient it could definitely happen eventually. As long as people scan their cards though stuff should always be somewhat available to print unlike in other games where a bunch of first edition stuff can get lost or destroyed with time. With the unique system it is very easy to open a display with all duds and have trouble making your money back so if you are risk averse it could definitely be worth keeping things sealed. I wanted a playset of rares so I opened all of mine and it seemed worth it to me but if you can afford to buy singles or retail displays to open keeping things sealed is definitely an option.
@@skulphire3679 all of the above! The drop rates of the good cards and several other things were increased. 1 extra pack, 1 extra card per pack, 1 unique in every 6 packs instead of 8, more foilers and rares, ~50% chance of a promo hero card, normal heroes are all foil, and 1/250 chance per pack to get 10 unique cards are some of the changes. You can see the adjusted drop rates here. www.kickstarter.com/projects/equinox-studio/altered-tcg/description
It honestly depends. On ebay most cards aren't scanned but on Facebook or Discord people will sell scanned cards too and then use the app to transfer digital ownership. Some people would be interested in buying just the physical, just the digital, or both.
Can we just let the game be fun and stop trying to turn it into what Pokémon has become for trading and selling? Just enjoy the game for what it is and maybe one day it will become that.
@@RDilux people are trying a lot of different things. I see cards on ebay but the official Discord and the Altered marketplace group on Facebook are some of the better places. Gamers Guild AZ also has a lot of singles on their website. I'll include a link to that here and if you have trouble finding the other let me know. I have a lot of trades too if you want to reach out to me! I'm dbtrickster on Discord. gamersguildazcards.com/collections/altered-tcg-digital-singles
Yes, the drop rates of the good cards and things were increased. 1 extra pack, 1 extra card per pack, 1 unique in every 6 packs instead of 8, more foilers and rares, ~50% chance of a promo hero card, normal heroes are all foil, and 1/250 chance per pack to get 10 unique cards are some of the changes. You can see the adjusted drop rates here. www.kickstarter.com/projects/equinox-studio/altered-tcg/description
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I'll add to what Trickster said (which is pretty much spot on advice), really look at and consider the condition on a card to trigger the effect. You need to really understand how often you will be able to get that condition to be able to get the effect AND when it happens. A sabotage is worse 'At Dusk' than from the hand for instance. Alot of people are going crazy over effects rather than understanding conditions for the deck that you are going to want to play.
@@gavkenny sabotage at dusk is the biggest trap ever. I think a lot of people don't understand all of the phases yet and think it will work like Ordis Legate. For anyone who doesn't know dusk is when you compare expeditions which is after you've made all of your plays and before cards go to reserve... a horrible time to sabotage 😆
@@TricksterCG I really like the at Dusk - after Rest text.
@@Syreeza yeah, that timing can be really good!
YES! Market watch from Trickster! Love it 🔥I'm thinking of doing some market recap videos in the future as well
@@Peeweez0 I'd be happy to watch those!
I'll also add that the catagories that Tricker uses for Uniques are similar to mine except I have a catagory above great called Bonkers which has these very few Uniques that go for a very higher price. I divide Great off at about 50-100 Euro and anything over 100 Euro would be in my Bonkers catagory (but bear in mind that I've seen things that I'd barely class as Great go for Bonkers amounts, so don't over pay.
Very informative! Thank you for the content!
Great video!
Hey Trickster! Great video first of all, pretty solid reasoning for all your price points, good on you to protect oblivious buyers/sellers.
One thing that struck me as odd was the value multiplier between ks and retail boxes... With the ability to sell foilers and chase cards separately or just digitally, I would say that the box value is more determined by what you can sell the components for, than what they're worth to you. In that respect, ks boxes ought to be closer to 2x value with all the exclusive stuff (imo)
@@Chamos_games this is a good point! I think they are worth around 1.5 to 2 depending on the buyer. If you will resell you can probably get more out of a display than some people will but for buyers that don't care about cosmetics and who will keep everything and don't want to go trough the trouble of reselling it might not be worth as much to them. Also the prices I listed are the ranges I see the two types of displays going for, but they may not reflect their true worth which means educated buyers may be able to get a good deal!
Great video as always! So funny I'm the one who bought the Coppelia you took as an example haha.
@@francoisg426 oh nice haha! I tried to use real examples. Now I know to come to you when I need a card like that 👍
Very interesting. I confirm I've seen a robin hood sold for 900€. Prices will go up and down. Just buy what you need to have fun
got my first display for 90 :D probably will pick up another if that price holds
@@johnmraz4332 yeah that's a great buy!
I think the best uniques will be the ones that give you a 4th of another existing rare. Ex. I’ve hit a spindle harvester in Yzmir that is effectively a 4th mage-dancer and there may be better BUT if Afanas sees play people might just need it and not a « better mage-dancer » for instance
You can't run more than 3 copies of a card with the same name, regardless of rarity. So if your build has 3 R-Spindles, then you'd have to drop one if you wanted to run a U-Spindle.
@@devinhood6435 That IS actually my point!
If I run Afanas I prefer having 3 rare mage-dancers and a unique spindle that act as a mage-dancer than having one of my mage-dancer as a unique as it is already one of the best card in my deck.
And I guess the very best deck will have 6 copies of the best card by having 3 rares + other characters with weird variations
@@kaba9926 this is a good point. Replacing a weaker card with a powerful unique could definitely do more for your deck than replacing something that is already strong. I've also seen that some of the better rares have worse uniques on average while other less popular names seem great as uniques. Hopefully this let's more of the names see play in the top decks!
Nice!
Personally I will wait for a at least a month after release before buying anything. This weekend I am going to a sealed event, so let's see how I feel about this game first
@@Chris3s nice, I hope you have a good time! I've really enjoyed the game so far. Waiting a month could be good to let prices settle.
Altered Kickstarter Booster box 250 euro's on average here in Europe,
Altered Booster box 100 euro's flat. pre-ordered a case for 595.
@@Xerpadon nice, seems like a good call! I see some ks displays on the Discord marketplace that look like they're from Europe and go for around 210-220 but you always have to pay shipping too :/
I just sold a lot of cards for 2€ per rare and 1€ per 8 common, wich is okay for most people in france as a disply is around ~280€ (around ~140 rare per display)
@@Theninja974 nice, sounds like a good deal. I think the prices may drop once everyone can put their cards on the global marketplace so it's a good time to try and get something out of your commons and rares.
Is there a site were I can see prices for concrete cards
Like how much is a rare robin hood worth?
@@jujurinka6719 hello! There is a website that has a lot of singles but the prices they use aren't necessarily 100% accurate. Some cards are priced high and don't move and others that seem like good deals sell out.
Gamers Guild Altered Singles
gamersguildazcards.com/collections/altered-tcg-digital-singles
Where are you buying/selling cards most of the time?
I mostly look in the marketplace channel of the official discord.
When you are saying digital price, what are you referring to, since the digital market is not available yet? Thanks for the help!
Hello! You can already transfer cards to your friends in the app. A lot of people make posts on Facebook or Discord and then add the buyer as a friend in the app to transfer digital ownership.
I’m in America and just got my shipment from the kickstarter. I’m debating keeping the boxes closed instead of cracking them, but I was wondering if you had any thoughts on that.
If the game takes off, the kickstarter displays will be a pretty penny, no?
I think it is a lot more common to speculate on TCGs now and it will take a while to drain all of the stores and backers before prices would ever get really really high but if you are patient it could definitely happen eventually. As long as people scan their cards though stuff should always be somewhat available to print unlike in other games where a bunch of first edition stuff can get lost or destroyed with time. With the unique system it is very easy to open a display with all duds and have trouble making your money back so if you are risk averse it could definitely be worth keeping things sealed. I wanted a playset of rares so I opened all of mine and it seemed worth it to me but if you can afford to buy singles or retail displays to open keeping things sealed is definitely an option.
Whats the difference between the Kickstarter and the regular retail display?
Different droprates? Unique Cards or Artworks?
@@skulphire3679 all of the above! The drop rates of the good cards and several other things were increased. 1 extra pack, 1 extra card per pack, 1 unique in every 6 packs instead of 8, more foilers and rares, ~50% chance of a promo hero card, normal heroes are all foil, and 1/250 chance per pack to get 10 unique cards are some of the changes. You can see the adjusted drop rates here.
www.kickstarter.com/projects/equinox-studio/altered-tcg/description
I got some promos at PAX West but I'm wondering- if I wanna sell my extras (not my boy Odin lol) do people ONLY want them without the QR code scammed?
It honestly depends. On ebay most cards aren't scanned but on Facebook or Discord people will sell scanned cards too and then use the app to transfer digital ownership. Some people would be interested in buying just the physical, just the digital, or both.
I was at PAX too helping with the booth! Maybe we met.
Can we just let the game be fun and stop trying to turn it into what Pokémon has become for trading and selling? Just enjoy the game for what it is and maybe one day it will become that.
Link to discord marketplace? Also opinion on foiler pricing?
@@ErnieB573 I see common foilers go for like 30-40 cents, rare maybe a dollar, and unique for 6-8 dollars.
@@ErnieB573 discord.com/channels/964523698713419796/1262378358793306173
Marketplace link
where do people even sell or buy cards?
@@RDilux people are trying a lot of different things. I see cards on ebay but the official Discord and the Altered marketplace group on Facebook are some of the better places. Gamers Guild AZ also has a lot of singles on their website. I'll include a link to that here and if you have trouble finding the other let me know. I have a lot of trades too if you want to reach out to me! I'm dbtrickster on Discord.
gamersguildazcards.com/collections/altered-tcg-digital-singles
What's the multiplier on foil Uniques?
It depends on which one but maybe around 30 dollars more.
Is the Kickstarter really better?
Yes, the drop rates of the good cards and things were increased. 1 extra pack, 1 extra card per pack, 1 unique in every 6 packs instead of 8, more foilers and rares, ~50% chance of a promo hero card, normal heroes are all foil, and 1/250 chance per pack to get 10 unique cards are some of the changes. You can see the adjusted drop rates here.
www.kickstarter.com/projects/equinox-studio/altered-tcg/description
I sold a unique foil Robin Hood for $300 to a dude in France.
@@ebisumaru77 sounds like the display you pulled that from was worth it! Yeah, certain Robin Hoods have been really popular right now.
Who needs another TCG these days? Nobody!
@@DerpolitischeSong-xf4kl yeah. I guess it's time to shelve one of the other ones.