Dinosaurs in the main land was one of Michael Crichton's ideas, and they couldn't even stick to that premise in Dominion. This is one of the problems I have with Dominion is that not only does it ignore the ending of Fallen Kingdom, but it also ended the exact same way the previous movie did where the Dinosaurs are still in the main land and it goes against the whole point of the first film where Humans and Dinosaurs can't live together.
Dominion did not move the franchise forward, they should of stuck to the Malta plot a bit more and expanded on that more, the Dolomite plot is just like another "run from dinosaurs on an island" but it is in the mountains instead, story could of been a lot better, but only way for the franchise to move forward is to ditch all the island stuff and just leave it for crucial plot tbh, I think Chaos Theory are going a good job on that then Dominion tbh, so yeah
I still have no idea how Dominion put dinosaurs all over the world. Some escaped from the mansion in Fallen kingdom (a dozen dinosaurs in one location) then there’s somehow a black market in Malta (who’s even making those??) and an isolated park in Italy. How the fuck did walking dinosaurs make it around the planet?? Did I miss something or was this never explained?
I feel like DX is the most natural fit. The synopsis feels very much like a "lets take the best unused parts of the Lost World novel and make a movie from it" to me, and I'm all for it.
Bad writing happened. They wrote themselves into a corner. The premise would follow that we have a messy post-dinosaur future with chaos all around, maybe Cadillacs & Dinosaurs / Dino Crisis "dino-world" setting in which humans are the underdog in a world where nature got primal and wild. But someone got cold feet and thought that's not the iconing setting of the "Jurassic" franchise, so they "have" to do the same thing over and over and the only thing they can think of is undoing the previous movie... because it had consequences. It's Resident Evil movies writing. Where each movie clumsily un-does whatever wacky over-the-top ending the previous one had, so nothing really matters for any movie. They just hit a reset button and tell a different story with new "epic" escenes each time.
I feel like dinosaurs are actually the underdog in this case, not the humans. If you reintroduce dinosaurs to modern environments, I actually do think many dinosaurs would die out because this world is just not created for them. Not to mention the humans that would either kill them for being threats or try to exploit them for profit.
@@jackhummer8344 I would mostly agree with you, except that's not what the J. World media established. On the contrary, they make it quite clear, dinosaurs are actually doing super. They run wild and proliffic next to regular animals and are now everywhere. That's what was happening at the end of every World movie, series and video game and it's an interesing idea! "People now live in a world with dinosaurs." And we are like "Ok! sounds great, what's next?" and they are like "Scratch that, dinosaurs all died off-screen" and we are like: "Ah, really? Uh, sure." It's underwhelming and sad.
@@Rodrigo_Vega I mean, Jurassic World media absolutely established that mankind is a huge threat to these dinosaurs. We saw the underground market in Dominion and Chaos Theory also established the underground smuggling ring. Honestly, the most damage we see these dinosaurs causing post-Fallen Kingdom was actually the result of humans using these creatures for their own means.
@@jackhummer8344 We see humans being mean/dangerous to individual dinosaurs. At no point are these activities framed as an existential threat to the world-wide continuing existance of dinosaurs. Dinosaurs are depicted as having massive reproductive and adaptive success, _despite_ the human threats that have also been there since day one. So many species are spreading so prolifically there are special "safe zones" that _seem_ to be the only place dinosaurs are _not_ found. In Jurassic World evolution, there are costant missions of dinosaurs being spotted or causing problems all around the world, in every kind of biome. What kind of event short of a total ecological collapse K-T style could ever drive each and all of these species again to extinction? It's just silly. And this is just the "canon" side of the questions. My real question is in the production side of things. Why did they choose to the write things this way? did anyone _want_ dinosaurs to go extinct(ish) for the 3 time in the franchise? Wouldn't the alternative be more interesing to audiences?
Here’s an idea: What if some of the fossiilized mosquitos that were used to collect the paleo DNA by InGen also brought back something else as a side effect thirty years ago? What if in the movie continuity DX is not a prion disease but a *paleo virus?*
@@rogersstinson4019 If by Jurassic Park 3 you mean Jurassic Park: Extinction, yes. It could potentially deepen the meaning of all the films so far, the first Jurassic Park probably the most. You think Velociraptors are bad? Wait until Rebirth most likely reveals what lengths InGen would have had to go to with DX. Case of point, the island location. It’s fun to imagine what Grant, Sattler and Malcolm would had thought if they knew the hidden context of Hammond’s geneticists accidentally bringing back a dangerous prehistoric virus when cloning their dinosaurs. Even it’s initial appeal and magic would not have been enough to make them endorse Jurassic Park. Waaaay too many safety risks.
I think when they say it's the ecology, I believe they are also referring to the animal's food sources. You'll have much more vegetation near the equator which would be better for herbivorous dinosaurs which would bring in the carnivores.. I mean really, how many domesticated dogs and wild deer would it take to fill up a Allosaurus? The flying and marine reptiles would fair well diet wise to a extent. Climate wise not so much. Either way modern fauna takes a hit.
The fairy tale ending of Dominion was definitely a let down. I don’t want doom and gloom but damn it doesn’t have to be “velociraptors breeding in the wild is fine” lol.
Is that seriously your gripe about that movie? Not the horrible acting, the plot line, the lack of any suspense whatsoever? The main problem was insects causing climate change. It’s such a trash movie but you’re upset about blue having a baby? WEIRD
@@augustbaptiste9001 pardon me friend, after 5 movies saying Velociraptors were the most fierce predators out there I guess I found it bizarre they just left one able to breed out in the wild when they could’ve relocated it lol.
JP talked about the issues with man playing God. I get the feeling this just gets repeated over and over again but they don't know how to properly execute it. Have you guys noticed this too?
@@NM-ue8on they didn't even go into the whole "man playing God" because they just keep going back to the process of genetics rather than the moral questions and when they DO get to those question it goes no where. People assume that because it was mentioned it was well done. It wasn't. What new big name rich guy is gonna show up in the next film where the good guy who is hesitant about dinosaurs will eventually aid, said dinos. 🙄after jp3 it's been the same movie over and over again. Idc about this new one anymore.
Showing LOVE for my absolute FAVORITE channel period thank you for another great video once again Klayton Fioriti, im personally excited to actually see where the Jurassic franchise truly goes now. Thank you for the hard work and research you put into each and every video thank you and have a blessed day everyone
They are still thriving at the BioSyn facility in the Dolomite Mountains in Italy, while the others like Blue, have been extinct before the events of Rebirth, and this what would likely to occur in the new movie and that Rexy may have passed at 37.
People realy want rexy to still be alive and live to like 100 years ,man just let her go she is way too old, hope she passed peacefully at the dolomites
I love your videos man! Been a fan of Jurassic Park since I was little and learning about all of the lore from your channel has been awesome. Keep up the great work 👍
Mennnn i was looking for a channel like this. Thank God for it, and you for doing this videos, with all the info. about the Jurassic Park Films and games. this was gonna be a good movie, but that everything, was about a insects eating crops, and a granddaughter, that was a clone, and then dont.
Great video. It's very evident that there's no continuity. Fallen Kingdom promised dinosaurs causing chaos in the mainland, we didn't get that in Dominion Dominion promised dinosaurs co-existing, now even that won't be there in Rebirth. But I feel they won't kill off the dinosaurs in BioSyn Valley right now.
Hey Klayton, do we get a Jurassic Park: Survival Let's Play in the future? I'm rewatching your Trespasser Let's Play over and over again. I just love the vibe and how you explore these games. Would be nice to see you experience this new Jurassic Adventure for the first time. 🦖
What if the big secret or the big reveal or such would be that, what if the clone dinosaurs aren't the only prehistoric creatures that exist, what if there's more prehistoric creatures that have been cloned other then the Smilodon and Dimetredon, like what if the likes of the Terrorbirds and such, but what if we realise something exists long before any of the cloned dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures ever created, but something had survived for years, centuries perhaps, kinda like those prehistoric crypids that have been sighted around the world for years, that would be interesting tbh
I really hope it’s connected to DX, the franchise has adapted virtually everything from the novels, but strangely one of the most grounded and relatable plot points (DX) has been ignored. The thing that bothered me most with the world trilogy, was there was seemingly no consequence to having dinosaurs back in the world. Especially unregulated worldwide cloning.
I am probably going to be referring to this movie as just Jurassic Rebirth, and since most of the dinosaurs are dying off across the planet the world part of the title seems pointless. I personally would love to see them make spinoff movies about other extinct animals being resurrected via before/after the Dinosaurs, and they did say that genetic power had been unleashed. It would be amazing if they took advantage of that line from JWFK, and it would help expand on the JP universe. I really hope this new film will be good, and brings the franchise back. Also.. JP3 is underrated, and I know it isn't perfect but it definitely isn't that bad of a JP movie.
Love your videos man, been watching them since 2019 when I was still playing The Isle. Like you said, I think something related to ingen and biosyn will probably be mentioned but I also believe that there will be a new company which will be playing a bigger part in the new movie. Also, could you pleaaase use the "Silent partner - Frequency" song more often in your videos? For nostalgia sake haha. I bet a lot of us would love it too!
I could see potential in a Jurassic film set in Florida since it has had its fair share of invasive species and a film could have excellent commentary on that.
Idk why people are hating. One, we dont know what happened in the 5 years. Two, biosyn valley is an artificial tropical area, those are fine...and blue and beta can migrated south.
Great theory Klayton but I am pretty sure their was dinosaurs that were endothermic in the franchise like Blue and Beta and the Pyroraptor or the Spinoceratops from Camp Cretaceous. They did not show that they were struggling at all they were all thriving but that is just my theory take with just a pinch of salt I could be entirely wrong.
I think It may be doable with a new disease depending on how is done. So in this new movie the characters come across something that was hidden for decades, what if it was like "InGen found a ancient disease in one strand of amber mosquito blood (it was like one in a million chance). They awakened the pathogen and insert in some of the animals to study, but it eventually passed to humans. Every human on the island died due to this outbreak, but the animals survived and had to come in isolation with this disease. The characters find thst they were trying to weaponize the pathogen but never came through since everyone who knew about is dead. Unfortunate, someone ends up contracting the pathogen and eventually it gets to the mainland and from there you have the sequels (sorta like the newer planet of the apes franchise)". NOW, if they manage to pull this off is gonna be great, but I'm still cautious optimistic
I like to imagine that city pollution and much colder climates aren't very suitable to the animals that were on a tropical island. Of course it's not all accurate in places like Malta and the biosyn valley.
I agree with this interpretation because sure, it got cold enough to snow on occasion in some areas during the mesozoic but the world was a lot warmer back then. Not to mention there absolutely not enough food for herbivores. There were no vast open grasslands back then. So I can see some dinosaurs surviving in temperate areas, maybe they are migratory, but most big dinosaurs would have died from starvation or it is just too cold for them. Much like putting a polar bear in a desert, it is like putting an elephant in the arctic.
Okay thanks for posting , it helps lessen some of my concerns for the next film . And maybe it’s not just migration , but also results of animal trafficking, I’ll admit Jw Dominion handle that greatly . And I can see how that might have a massive effect of dinosaur sightings set 4 years after Dominion.
I personally like to think that some dinosaurs stayed at Big Rock national park and other places that have redwood forests like apatosaurs at the end of Dominion. Because this is such an cool, prehistoric looking and iconic setting.
Actually, Emu, Ostriches and even parrots do very well in cold places. Despite being tropical birds. The main issue with them is winter food sources not the temps. Something that eats pine trees should be fine. Body mass alone would keep adult dinos warm. Regulating breeding cycles and hatchings gaining enough weight or feather coverage before winter sets in could be an issue.
Not related but kinda related i don't think beta hatched during the winter... like she's hunting when we see her and based on what Muldoon said, raptors being lethal at 7 months, shes probably roughly 7months old give or take.
This is not a documentary so Blue can have her baby in a cold climate. It makes no difference if they are in the snow or not. Wherever the dinos are if fine with me. I loved dominion and every film in the series. I loved the old and new cast together and the big dinos at the end fighting. There are still plenty of new dinos to see and i would love to see them. Yes the dinosaurs are the main reason to see these movies. Fallen Kingdom had great dino work,i loved it. I loved the cast too. PLEASE, that writer David knows what he is writing and knew Michael C and will give us a good film. Maybe Studio should not have told what it is all about so you can analyze it to death. Hopefully a Nov. teaser trailer will help ease your minds. I will love it for sure. I enjoy all your videos and realize you all won't be happy no matter what. I will not be negative and if a video feels negative i will not watch Also any twitter negative stuff will be blocked too. I just saw a video called. I just saw a video called The BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH JURASSIC REBIRTH and will i watch it NO!
I hope the secret isn't something stupid and lore breaking. I got faith in Gareth Edwards and he seems super passionate about this movie so I'm optimistic, but with a bit of caution.
I like your idea of the dinosaurs migrating instead of them just dying off. I mean one of the biggest messages in these movies is "life finds a way", and if they decided to kill the dinosaurs off, that just wouldn't sit well with me and would go against the entire theme of nature always winning. Please have them migrate!
Also, I’m hesitant about “uncovering a horrible world shattering discovery” because the last time they did that. No one liked the clone girl and her releasing the animals.
The shocking discovery will be site C. It will also be explained that the island we saw in JP3 was thought to be Sorna by the survivors, but was actually site C. Which is why it looked so different. Additionally, there will be more dinosaurs there, as we see them in JP3. Sorna might be void of Dino life but site c isn’t.
They should do a straight up revenge story like Jaws Like when Quint hates sharks You have a Big Game Hunter that hates Dinosaurs Synopsis A group of people are camping when rexy shows up and kills five people One of them was a pregnant woman Five years later someone is blowing up facilities that house Dinosaurs Killing them
I actually liked this part of the new plot, I think it makes sense that the dinosaurs are slowly migrating to tropical climate areas of the planet, plus in future movies this could play out really well, imagine a story set in the amazonas, or in the jungles of africa, or asia! However it also presents some questions, like if Rebirth is taking place on one of the 5 deaths, how the hell the dinosaurs migrated back there from the mainland... or who would tansport them back there? And I have no clue why they couldn't get DNA samples from BioSyn or InGen.... And Why do you have to get DNA specifically from the largest dinosaurs? This sounds really cringe in my book, like a video game quest or a saturday morning cartoon plot.. Hopefully it will get explained.. ^-^ And Jesus... I really hope that the 'dark sinister shocking discovery' will not be Curt Connors from Spiderman lmao 😂 I mean... no dino-human nonsense please...
Oh, man; can you _imagine_ the tasty, tasty rageburst that would erupt from the fanbase if Universal actually released a _Jurassic_ movie with _literally_ no dinosaurs in it? I mean, you guys thought LocustGate was somethin', try hittin' 'em with _that_ one!
Although I wonder what's happened to Blue during this time jump, I really want the movie to expand on one thing... *LOCUST LORE!!* Cause that's what people want to see!! Locust being the bigger threat, and devouring crops over two hours
Hey Klayton, I'm sure you've already seen the news on the new JP movie being R rated and I thought for a cool video idea is what would be some good things and ideas from all of JP lore for this movie? Curious on your choices and hope to see it! 💙
I agree but remember these creatures aren’t what they should be… let me explain. Most of there’s cloned dinosaurs where ENGINEERED to survive the habitat where they live. Obvious the Ingen dinosaurs would die because they were genetically engineered to live at tropical places and that explains it. But what about Biosyn dinosaurs? Like the Pyroraptor,the new parasaurolophus and quetzalcoatlus? This where living there whole lives in a sanctuary with lots of biomes and they survived. That means that not ALL the dinosaurs left the north and south parts of the world, only the one created in the islands.
I think it would be interesting to see that the island is full of animals from the iceage like they did in camp Cretaceous so that they can explain that they can live in every enviroment across the earth. Like the ice age ones in cold and the dinosaurs in warm climates to show that they have invaded every thing
I don't think they're connected. I think the migration is just natural migratory behavior in an attempt to adapt to their new environment. I definitely think the secret is a prehistoric disease, though. The way to work around it not being relevant in Dominion, however, would be that the disease isn't actually out in the wild yet. It's contained in an inGen biolab research facility where they did gain of function research on whatever they dug up with the prehistoric mosquitos.
Dino-Human hybrids! Let's gooooo! I know a lot of fans are adamantly against this idea, but... c'mon. What else is left for this franchise to do besides the DX Virus?
I’ve always wondered how the dinos are functioning at full strength while breathing our atmosphere. The oxygen level in our modern atmosphere is very different from what it would have been in the far distant past.
I think its a sort of important course correction with the issues some had in dominion with the dinsoaurs just running around having adapted to things easily.
@@bradwhite5884 the problem was how few there were. It would be better to limit it to the pacfic rim where they can more easily spread smaller ones then have more popping up from people experimenting with genetic power as criton was talking about.
About blue having eggs in the snow they featured some dinosaurs that are able to live in harsh climates back in Camp Cretaceous season season 4 episode 4 so it might be linking to the show again
They haven't been consistent. Fallen Kingdom made it seem like there was a problem. Then Dominion's ending made everything seem okay. Now there's a problem again.
Couple of things: 1- Weren´t the dinosaurs designed to stand the wheater? (Of course I mean the ones from the franchise). 2- Was there only the Giga that died or were there others?
I’m pretty sure the new franchise is just trying to stray away from the fallen kingdom and Dominion movies. They didn’t do well and they’re trying to start something new.
It sucks that the director wouldn’t stick with the premise from Michael Chricton’s novel for Dominion, idk this doesn’t make much sense just moving all the dinosaurs away from the north. It’s a weird direction, I guess we need to see how it goes in practice.
I’m really hoping in Jurassic world 4 this secret discovery is a abandoned Jurassic Park that John Hammond secretly created and this park as a backup to the original
2:32 Klayton, can you make a video about this giga named oversized accurate acrocanthosaurus because looks like Cloverly formation dinosaurs can't have their real name like the deinonychus in this franchise, I really want to know what this dinosaur was supposed to be.
I think it will be a return to Isla Sorna. Its been a couple decades since JP3 and the films never mentioned it again. Perhaps a 3rd location... Jurassic Park Asia. I am thinking the whole gathering DNA for giant dinos will be the first 30-45 minutes of the movie. Just a plot point to get a mercenary group stranded with a family on some island. Hoping for more horror elements as we watch this family struggle to survive and the mercs find a heart trying to help them.
As far as I know, paleontologists do believe dinos could have lived in snowy places. Maybe they'd migrate to warmer places to lay eggs and migrate back to their usual stomping grounds, or reproduce only in warmer months...
Personally I feel like this movie is sort of a spiritual Jurassic Park 3 remake
Yeah I think that’s what they’re trying to go for
I feel like it going more of idea of The Lost World novel that scrapped ideas of JP3 which I would like to see.
@@solidSnake4580Yeah once I heard 3 Adults and 3 Teenagers I thought of the Lost World Novel’s group
If that's the case, they should have outright ret-conned the 4 movies that came after TLW out of the timeline and made this movie the REAL JP3.
Dinosaurs in the main land was one of Michael Crichton's ideas, and they couldn't even stick to that premise in Dominion. This is one of the problems I have with Dominion is that not only does it ignore the ending of Fallen Kingdom, but it also ended the exact same way the previous movie did where the Dinosaurs are still in the main land and it goes against the whole point of the first film where Humans and Dinosaurs can't live together.
Dominion did not move the franchise forward, they should of stuck to the Malta plot a bit more and expanded on that more, the Dolomite plot is just like another "run from dinosaurs on an island" but it is in the mountains instead, story could of been a lot better, but only way for the franchise to move forward is to ditch all the island stuff and just leave it for crucial plot tbh, I think Chaos Theory are going a good job on that then Dominion tbh, so yeah
@@bradwhite5884 You want to say that Dominion will be good if Chaos Theory series will explain it?
And the next movie is gonna skip forward 5 years so they don’t have to explain why their plot went no where 🙃
That was never the point of the movie at all
I still have no idea how Dominion put dinosaurs all over the world. Some escaped from the mansion in Fallen kingdom (a dozen dinosaurs in one location) then there’s somehow a black market in Malta (who’s even making those??) and an isolated park in Italy. How the fuck did walking dinosaurs make it around the planet?? Did I miss something or was this never explained?
I feel like DX is the most natural fit. The synopsis feels very much like a "lets take the best unused parts of the Lost World novel and make a movie from it" to me, and I'm all for it.
Bad writing happened. They wrote themselves into a corner. The premise would follow that we have a messy post-dinosaur future with chaos all around, maybe Cadillacs & Dinosaurs / Dino Crisis "dino-world" setting in which humans are the underdog in a world where nature got primal and wild. But someone got cold feet and thought that's not the iconing setting of the "Jurassic" franchise, so they "have" to do the same thing over and over and the only thing they can think of is undoing the previous movie... because it had consequences.
It's Resident Evil movies writing. Where each movie clumsily un-does whatever wacky over-the-top ending the previous one had, so nothing really matters for any movie. They just hit a reset button and tell a different story with new "epic" escenes each time.
I feel like dinosaurs are actually the underdog in this case, not the humans. If you reintroduce dinosaurs to modern environments, I actually do think many dinosaurs would die out because this world is just not created for them. Not to mention the humans that would either kill them for being threats or try to exploit them for profit.
Exactly this...
@@jackhummer8344 I would mostly agree with you, except that's not what the J. World media established. On the contrary, they make it quite clear, dinosaurs are actually doing super. They run wild and proliffic next to regular animals and are now everywhere. That's what was happening at the end of every World movie, series and video game and it's an interesing idea! "People now live in a world with dinosaurs."
And we are like "Ok! sounds great, what's next?" and they are like "Scratch that, dinosaurs all died off-screen" and we are like:
"Ah, really? Uh, sure." It's underwhelming and sad.
@@Rodrigo_Vega I mean, Jurassic World media absolutely established that mankind is a huge threat to these dinosaurs. We saw the underground market in Dominion and Chaos Theory also established the underground smuggling ring. Honestly, the most damage we see these dinosaurs causing post-Fallen Kingdom was actually the result of humans using these creatures for their own means.
@@jackhummer8344 We see humans being mean/dangerous to individual dinosaurs. At no point are these activities framed as an existential threat to the world-wide continuing existance of dinosaurs. Dinosaurs are depicted as having massive reproductive and adaptive success, _despite_ the human threats that have also been there since day one. So many species are spreading so prolifically there are special "safe zones" that _seem_ to be the only place dinosaurs are _not_ found. In Jurassic World evolution, there are costant missions of dinosaurs being spotted or causing problems all around the world, in every kind of biome. What kind of event short of a total ecological collapse K-T style could ever drive each and all of these species again to extinction? It's just silly. And this is just the "canon" side of the questions. My real question is in the production side of things. Why did they choose to the write things this way? did anyone _want_ dinosaurs to go extinct(ish) for the 3 time in the franchise? Wouldn't the alternative be more interesing to audiences?
Here’s an idea:
What if some of the fossiilized mosquitos that were used to collect the paleo DNA by InGen also brought back something else as a side effect thirty years ago? What if in the movie continuity DX is not a prion disease but a *paleo virus?*
Like in what was considered for Jurassic Park III?
@@rogersstinson4019 If by Jurassic Park 3 you mean Jurassic Park: Extinction, yes. It could potentially deepen the meaning of all the films so far, the first Jurassic Park probably the most.
You think Velociraptors are bad? Wait until Rebirth most likely reveals what lengths InGen would have had to go to with DX. Case of point, the island location. It’s fun to imagine what Grant, Sattler and Malcolm would had thought if they knew the hidden context of Hammond’s geneticists accidentally bringing back a dangerous prehistoric virus when cloning their dinosaurs. Even it’s initial appeal and magic would not have been enough to make them endorse Jurassic Park. Waaaay too many safety risks.
I think when they say it's the ecology, I believe they are also referring to the animal's food sources. You'll have much more vegetation near the equator which would be better for herbivorous dinosaurs which would bring in the carnivores.. I mean really, how many domesticated dogs and wild deer would it take to fill up a Allosaurus? The flying and marine reptiles would fair well diet wise to a extent. Climate wise not so much. Either way modern fauna takes a hit.
That migration must of been wild to witness seeing all those dinos migrate from the states to South America. I wanna see that movie tbh
The fairy tale ending of Dominion was definitely a let down. I don’t want doom and gloom but damn it doesn’t have to be “velociraptors breeding in the wild is fine” lol.
Is that seriously your gripe about that movie? Not the horrible acting, the plot line, the lack of any suspense whatsoever? The main problem was insects causing climate change. It’s such a trash movie but you’re upset about blue having a baby? WEIRD
@@augustbaptiste9001 Who said he didn't dislike those part of the movie too?
Fr I can’t believe they aren’t against the Jurassic park logic and said “oh well we will just co-exist”
@@augustbaptiste9001 pardon me friend, after 5 movies saying Velociraptors were the most fierce predators out there I guess I found it bizarre they just left one able to breed out in the wild when they could’ve relocated it lol.
How did blue manage to have a baby without a male raptor to mate with?
JP talked about the issues with man playing God. I get the feeling this just gets repeated over and over again but they don't know how to properly execute it. Have you guys noticed this too?
thats way TLW is best sequel and best ending. After that all sequels look like fan fiction.
Dominion made playing god have no consequences and that dinosaurs will do perfectly fine with the world after being brought back it’s ridiculous
@@NM-ue8on they didn't even go into the whole "man playing God" because they just keep going back to the process of genetics rather than the moral questions and when they DO get to those question it goes no where. People assume that because it was mentioned it was well done. It wasn't. What new big name rich guy is gonna show up in the next film where the good guy who is hesitant about dinosaurs will eventually aid, said dinos. 🙄after jp3 it's been the same movie over and over again. Idc about this new one anymore.
Showing LOVE for my absolute FAVORITE channel period thank you for another great video once again Klayton Fioriti, im personally excited to actually see where the Jurassic franchise truly goes now. Thank you for the hard work and research you put into each and every video thank you and have a blessed day everyone
They are still thriving at the BioSyn facility in the Dolomite Mountains in Italy, while the others like Blue, have been extinct before the events of Rebirth, and this what would likely to occur in the new movie and that Rexy may have passed at 37.
People realy want rexy to still be alive and live to like 100 years ,man just let her go she is way too old, hope she passed peacefully at the dolomites
I love your videos man! Been a fan of Jurassic Park since I was little and learning about all of the lore from your channel has been awesome. Keep up the great work 👍
You know it's a great day when klayton uploads a video on Jurassic.
I hope they dont just end the series
It's my all time favorite movie series ever but it might be time to end it.
@@aaronflowers8881will all the money it's making not likely
@@animezilla4486 You're probably right. I just love it so much. It's my favorite movie series ever and I want it done right.
actually, the movie end in TLW but studio need money, so they want to make another sequel.
Oh, we're just getting started with this new trilogy bub, so don't worry
Mennnn i was looking for a channel like this. Thank God for it, and you for doing this videos, with all the info. about the Jurassic Park Films and games. this was gonna be a good movie, but that everything, was about a insects eating crops, and a granddaughter, that was a clone, and then dont.
Great video.
It's very evident that there's no continuity.
Fallen Kingdom promised dinosaurs causing chaos in the mainland, we didn't get that in Dominion
Dominion promised dinosaurs co-existing, now even that won't be there in Rebirth.
But I feel they won't kill off the dinosaurs in BioSyn Valley right now.
Hey Klayton, do we get a Jurassic Park: Survival Let's Play in the future? I'm rewatching your Trespasser Let's Play over and over again. I just love the vibe and how you explore these games. Would be nice to see you experience this new Jurassic Adventure for the first time. 🦖
What if the big secret or the big reveal or such would be that, what if the clone dinosaurs aren't the only prehistoric creatures that exist, what if there's more prehistoric creatures that have been cloned other then the Smilodon and Dimetredon, like what if the likes of the Terrorbirds and such, but what if we realise something exists long before any of the cloned dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures ever created, but something had survived for years, centuries perhaps, kinda like those prehistoric crypids that have been sighted around the world for years, that would be interesting tbh
I really hope it’s connected to DX, the franchise has adapted virtually everything from the novels, but strangely one of the most grounded and relatable plot points (DX) has been ignored.
The thing that bothered me most with the world trilogy, was there was seemingly no consequence to having dinosaurs back in the world. Especially unregulated worldwide cloning.
I am probably going to be referring to this movie as just Jurassic Rebirth, and since most of the dinosaurs are dying off across the planet the world part of the title seems pointless. I personally would love to see them make spinoff movies about other extinct animals being resurrected via before/after the Dinosaurs, and they did say that genetic power had been unleashed. It would be amazing if they took advantage of that line from JWFK, and it would help expand on the JP universe. I really hope this new film will be good, and brings the franchise back. Also.. JP3 is underrated, and I know it isn't perfect but it definitely isn't that bad of a JP movie.
Love your videos man, been watching them since 2019 when I was still playing The Isle.
Like you said, I think something related to ingen and biosyn will probably be mentioned but I also believe that there will be a new company which will be playing a bigger part in the new movie.
Also, could you pleaaase use the "Silent partner - Frequency" song more often in your videos? For nostalgia sake haha. I bet a lot of us would love it too!
I hope the dinosaurs 🦕🦖 don't go extinct, I really hope we get to see what we expected in Dominion and some great action sequences
Its called Rebirth so can't see the dinos going extinct.
I could see potential in a Jurassic film set in Florida since it has had its fair share of invasive species and a film could have excellent commentary on that.
I hope they don’t go extinct again
Its actually impossible
It wouldn't matter if they did, humans never learn. So, someone down the line would try and re-create them.
They won’t since it’s a start of a new trilogy
I hope they do
Maybe the green fire called them there and we will finally get to know what it is in the first place :D
It was BioSyn’s green Cool-Aid factory. :p
Broooo! Are you referring to one of those ancient comics? I remembered something like this from JP comics 😅🥹🤩
@@maxpayne69. Yes I did indeed :)
I hope to see the theri again, love that nailed chicken
Idk why people are hating. One, we dont know what happened in the 5 years. Two, biosyn valley is an artificial tropical area, those are fine...and blue and beta can migrated south.
Great theory Klayton but I am pretty sure their was dinosaurs that were endothermic in the franchise like Blue and Beta and the Pyroraptor or the Spinoceratops from Camp Cretaceous. They did not show that they were struggling at all they were all thriving but that is just my theory take with just a pinch of salt I could be entirely wrong.
I think It may be doable with a new disease depending on how is done. So in this new movie the characters come across something that was hidden for decades, what if it was like "InGen found a ancient disease in one strand of amber mosquito blood (it was like one in a million chance). They awakened the pathogen and insert in some of the animals to study, but it eventually passed to humans. Every human on the island died due to this outbreak, but the animals survived and had to come in isolation with this disease. The characters find thst they were trying to weaponize the pathogen but never came through since everyone who knew about is dead. Unfortunate, someone ends up contracting the pathogen and eventually it gets to the mainland and from there you have the sequels (sorta like the newer planet of the apes franchise)". NOW, if they manage to pull this off is gonna be great, but I'm still cautious optimistic
This makes the most amount of sense!! Then go to the island to get DNA samples to find a cure
I like to imagine that city pollution and much colder climates aren't very suitable to the animals that were on a tropical island. Of course it's not all accurate in places like Malta and the biosyn valley.
I agree with this interpretation because sure, it got cold enough to snow on occasion in some areas during the mesozoic but the world was a lot warmer back then. Not to mention there absolutely not enough food for herbivores. There were no vast open grasslands back then. So I can see some dinosaurs surviving in temperate areas, maybe they are migratory, but most big dinosaurs would have died from starvation or it is just too cold for them. Much like putting a polar bear in a desert, it is like putting an elephant in the arctic.
Okay thanks for posting , it helps lessen some of my concerns for the next film .
And maybe it’s not just migration , but also results of animal trafficking, I’ll admit Jw Dominion handle that greatly . And I can see how that might have a massive effect of dinosaur sightings set 4 years after Dominion.
Can you do More novel scenes
I personally like to think that some dinosaurs stayed at Big Rock national park and other places that have redwood forests like apatosaurs at the end of Dominion. Because this is such an cool, prehistoric looking and iconic setting.
Actually, Emu, Ostriches and even parrots do very well in cold places. Despite being tropical birds. The main issue with them is winter food sources not the temps. Something that eats pine trees should be fine. Body mass alone would keep adult dinos warm. Regulating breeding cycles and hatchings gaining enough weight or feather coverage before winter sets in could be an issue.
Not related but kinda related i don't think beta hatched during the winter... like she's hunting when we see her and based on what Muldoon said, raptors being lethal at 7 months, shes probably roughly 7months old give or take.
This is not a documentary so Blue can have her baby in a cold climate. It makes no difference if they are in the snow or not. Wherever the dinos are if fine with me. I loved dominion and every film in the series. I loved the old and new cast together and the big dinos at the end fighting. There are still plenty of new dinos to see and i would love to see them. Yes the dinosaurs are the main reason to see these movies. Fallen Kingdom had great dino work,i loved it. I loved the cast too. PLEASE, that writer David knows what he is writing and knew Michael C and will give us a good film. Maybe Studio should not have told what it is all about so you can analyze it to death. Hopefully a Nov. teaser trailer will help ease your minds. I will love it for sure. I enjoy all your videos and realize you all won't be happy no matter what. I will not be negative and if a video feels negative i will not watch Also any twitter negative stuff will be blocked too. I just saw a video called. I just saw a video called The BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH JURASSIC REBIRTH and will i watch it NO!
I hope the secret isn't something stupid and lore breaking. I got faith in Gareth Edwards and he seems super passionate about this movie so I'm optimistic, but with a bit of caution.
Your making me more intrigued then universal
JWFK making the hardest cliffhanger ever
Dominion 😭🙏🏻
I like your idea of the dinosaurs migrating instead of them just dying off. I mean one of the biggest messages in these movies is "life finds a way", and if they decided to kill the dinosaurs off, that just wouldn't sit well with me and would go against the entire theme of nature always winning. Please have them migrate!
Also, I’m hesitant about “uncovering a horrible world shattering discovery” because the last time they did that. No one liked the clone girl and her releasing the animals.
I mean, I liked it. I didn't really care for the retcons in Dominion though.
I think that it’ll be the DX disease, just not as you remember it from the novel but as something way worse and totally within scientific possibility.
Well, if the Dino’s are now stuck in the equator. That probably means that the Jaguars and South American Condor have gone extinct .
They're going to do human-dino hybrids, lol.
Jurassic World Rebirth....... Did Sephiroth do this?
Thanks for the video!! See you later!! Stay safe.😊
I have my headcannon reasons regarding many of the escaped dinosaurs.
The shocking discovery will be site C. It will also be explained that the island we saw in JP3 was thought to be Sorna by the survivors, but was actually site C. Which is why it looked so different. Additionally, there will be more dinosaurs there, as we see them in JP3. Sorna might be void of Dino life but site c isn’t.
So true, this movie moving must dinosaurs to actual places where they can thrive is much better than having randomly all over the planet.
They should do a straight up revenge story like Jaws
Like when Quint hates sharks
You have a Big Game Hunter that hates Dinosaurs
Synopsis
A group of people are camping when rexy shows up and kills five people
One of them was a pregnant woman
Five years later someone is blowing up facilities that house Dinosaurs
Killing them
I actually liked this part of the new plot, I think it makes sense that the dinosaurs are slowly migrating to tropical climate areas of the planet, plus in future movies this could play out really well, imagine a story set in the amazonas, or in the jungles of africa, or asia! However it also presents some questions, like if Rebirth is taking place on one of the 5 deaths, how the hell the dinosaurs migrated back there from the mainland... or who would tansport them back there?
And I have no clue why they couldn't get DNA samples from BioSyn or InGen....
And Why do you have to get DNA specifically from the largest dinosaurs? This sounds really cringe in my book, like a video game quest or a saturday morning cartoon plot.. Hopefully it will get explained.. ^-^
And Jesus... I really hope that the 'dark sinister shocking discovery' will not be Curt Connors from Spiderman lmao 😂 I mean... no dino-human nonsense please...
I think the biggest dinosaurs have stronger or larger samples that can be extracted,but idk about why from land sea and air specifically
Oh, man; can you _imagine_ the tasty, tasty rageburst that would erupt from the fanbase if Universal actually released a _Jurassic_ movie with _literally_ no dinosaurs in it? I mean, you guys thought LocustGate was somethin', try hittin' 'em with _that_ one!
Although I wonder what's happened to Blue during this time jump, I really want the movie to expand on one thing... *LOCUST LORE!!* Cause that's what people want to see!! Locust being the bigger threat, and devouring crops over two hours
We could have some super cool stuff at the start of the film resembling the first bits of the novels.
I don’t believe that ALL of the Dinosaurs will die off in this movie.
the stupid locusts ate all the dinosaurs
Hey Klayton F. How do you view Grey Hulk or the Super Soldier serum in the McU?
0:15 “No shit” /Arnold Swartzenegger.
Hey Klayton, I'm sure you've already seen the news on the new JP movie being R rated and I thought for a cool video idea is what would be some good things and ideas from all of JP lore for this movie? Curious on your choices and hope to see it! 💙
I agree but remember these creatures aren’t what they should be… let me explain. Most of there’s cloned dinosaurs where ENGINEERED to survive the habitat where they live. Obvious the Ingen dinosaurs would die because they were genetically engineered to live at tropical places and that explains it. But what about Biosyn dinosaurs? Like the Pyroraptor,the new parasaurolophus and quetzalcoatlus? This where living there whole lives in a sanctuary with lots of biomes and they survived. That means that not ALL the dinosaurs left the north and south parts of the world, only the one created in the islands.
I think it would be interesting to see that the island is full of animals from the iceage like they did in camp Cretaceous so that they can explain that they can live in every enviroment across the earth. Like the ice age ones in cold and the dinosaurs in warm climates to show that they have invaded every thing
I don't think they're connected. I think the migration is just natural migratory behavior in an attempt to adapt to their new environment. I definitely think the secret is a prehistoric disease, though. The way to work around it not being relevant in Dominion, however, would be that the disease isn't actually out in the wild yet. It's contained in an inGen biolab research facility where they did gain of function research on whatever they dug up with the prehistoric mosquitos.
DX, imo would make the most sense and would tie in with the book too.
Dino-Human hybrids! Let's gooooo!
I know a lot of fans are adamantly against this idea, but... c'mon. What else is left for this franchise to do besides the DX Virus?
Klayton! Big news. The movie will potentially be rated R. A quick google search offered the confirmation, would love for you to address this!
I’ve always wondered how the dinos are functioning at full strength while breathing our atmosphere. The oxygen level in our modern atmosphere is very different from what it would have been in the far distant past.
The dinos are like salmon coming home for breeding 😉
I think its a sort of important course correction with the issues some had in dominion with the dinsoaurs just running around having adapted to things easily.
I've prefer dinosaurs all over the world and us trying to deal with it tbh, a good way to take the franchise forward, so yeah
@@bradwhite5884 the problem was how few there were. It would be better to limit it to the pacfic rim where they can more easily spread smaller ones then have more popping up from people experimenting with genetic power as criton was talking about.
About blue having eggs in the snow they featured some dinosaurs that are able to live in harsh climates back in Camp Cretaceous season season 4 episode 4 so it might be linking to the show again
Klayton Fioriti, wanna collab
Biosyn valley is almost certainly empty at this point. I doubt they’ll answer many specifics.
Maybe it is like covid. It was always an issue with dinosaurs. But it only got into humans after dominion.
I want to know if we will get closure to Rexy and Blue.
Blue maybe had her arc finished in Dominion but Rexy deserves better!
They haven't been consistent. Fallen Kingdom made it seem like there was a problem. Then Dominion's ending made everything seem okay. Now there's a problem again.
It's Site B I think it's obvious at this point.
You mean they couldn’t survive winters out west and in Canada ?
As an Albertan, no. They would not last long here.
They should've kept the storyline with humans and dinosaurs living together.
Maybe Project Regenis/The amalgam testing.
@Klayton have you seen any of Ali Awada's Sorna videos?
Well there was a big boat-load of dinosaurs going somewhere at the end of season one of JP- Chaos Theory.
The shocking discovery is John Hammond's secret sex dungeon.
Spared no expense. 😂
Bruh😂
Sinister Shocking Discovery = The human Dino hybrids
This movie is trying to bring back the fans. I am here for it.
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Jurassic Park Mulligan 😂. Also Blue was part Penguin... Explains the snow 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Couple of things:
1- Weren´t the dinosaurs designed to stand the wheater? (Of course I mean the ones from the franchise).
2- Was there only the Giga that died or were there others?
"Weather"
I’m pretty sure the new franchise is just trying to stray away from the fallen kingdom and Dominion movies. They didn’t do well and they’re trying to start something new.
@@augustbaptiste9001 Still, if it was established by themselves that the dinosaurs were modified they can´t just go back just cause.
Only on the islands and no other dinosaurs died
I hope that there is an explanation for the dinosaurs in the equator
If InGen has old dark secrets then BioSyn would definitely be interested in that information.
Henry Wu is still alive as far as we know, he could still come up somewhere
It sucks that the director wouldn’t stick with the premise from Michael Chricton’s novel for Dominion, idk this doesn’t make much sense just moving all the dinosaurs away from the north. It’s a weird direction, I guess we need to see how it goes in practice.
I’m really hoping in Jurassic world 4 this secret discovery is a abandoned Jurassic Park that John Hammond secretly created and this park as a backup to the original
I hope they adapt the 2nd book
2:32 Klayton, can you make a video about this giga named oversized accurate acrocanthosaurus because looks like Cloverly formation dinosaurs can't have their real name like the deinonychus in this franchise, I really want to know what this dinosaur was supposed to be.
Well, could be the lycene contingency. With Lima bean farms being around there, would keep herbivores and predators near a large enough area.
Maybe something with or like the Lysine contingency, and something InGen only grew around its other compounds
I think it will be a return to Isla Sorna. Its been a couple decades since JP3 and the films never mentioned it again. Perhaps a 3rd location... Jurassic Park Asia.
I am thinking the whole gathering DNA for giant dinos will be the first 30-45 minutes of the movie. Just a plot point to get a mercenary group stranded with a family on some island. Hoping for more horror elements as we watch this family struggle to survive and the mercs find a heart trying to help them.
Human dinosaur hybrids
I feel like I'm the only one that enjoyed Dominion
I just hope its better than JP 3 and Dominion.
As far as I know, paleontologists do believe dinos could have lived in snowy places. Maybe they'd migrate to warmer places to lay eggs and migrate back to their usual stomping grounds, or reproduce only in warmer months...
It is a clone of John Hammond!!!!