Well stated. I’m 48 and still enthusiastically find myself playing the occasional AAA game and have a plethora of games in my Steam account that I have yet to install or play. More disposable income and less disposable time have made me reconsider playing many games that are too grind driven. Love your channel and appreciate your viewpoint.
People don’t understand how I can be perfectly happy with launching a game, playing for 3-4 hours then never launching it again. I enjoyed those 3-4 hours immensely, but never got the urge to open it again. Then too much time passes.. but I am content with my personal experience :)
@@2kliksphilip Objectively speaking - yes. However an 8 hour game will always have more potential to be entertaining for more hours than a 4 hour game. That is, of course, if the entire 8 hour experience is as enjoyable as the 4 hour experience. It's not that a shorter games are worse or better, it's just that the longer ones have a higher ceiling and it's only up to the developers if they're going to make it work, and if they do, the game will end up better than the shorter one.
True and short quality games have their place but it is often painful paying for a game that you can finish in a reasonable day. Its about value for money. Which isnt to say more hours per dollar is better, its more time of enjoyment per hour
years of intense budgeting as a child has put me in the habit of wanting to get all the time I can out of a game for my money's worth even if I don't enjoy it
i always knew you were a good dude, but this video really shows it. you could have made that previous video and moved on with your life, but you saw peoples responses and decided to take it into your own hands to show them theres more. you rock, keep up the great content
game design sure does have a large impact on nostalgia, I 've had a great experience with "kingdom come deliverance" as a game I had zero expectation for that i got because I had the time I was surprised by how quickly it got me captured and the idea of navigating a world i was unfamiliar with, the strange mechanics i did not quite understand made me feel like i was in my early teens all over again. what I believe we lack is the "not understanding" of a game mechanics, the exploration part of the game.
2:30 omg I get this so much lol. It feels like I played some games in my childhood for hundreds of hours. Yet when I go back and play them I realized I played up until the 5th mission, and can't have spent more than a few hours on it
Definitely, agree with this follow up the same way I did with the previous one. As someone who has repeatedly gotten, what would be described as a "burn-out" if it was about my work, with gaming, I seriously think people need the variety, not just within gaming, but also with other hobbies. Maybe start writing a book, meet friends IRL and play board games or start building models or whatnot.
Well said and I completely relate. Phillip talks on gaming in this video since that’s his focus, but “variety is the spice of life” is better applied to the whole human experience. I’m extremely burnt out with work to the point that playing games and watching movies can sometimes be equally as “draining” and depressing, but just hanging out with people or going out shopping lifts my mood quite a bit. I think everyone is having a harder time breaking out of their comfort zone with not only gaming but the holistic human experience due to covid lockdown, economic stresses, etc. It’s a lot easier to wallow in misery than to go out and make new experiences with everything crazy going on these days
Well said. I've often made the mistake of trying to stick with a game even when I no longer enjoy it and it always leaves me with bitter feelings towards the game, even if I liked most of my time with it. Also, I can definitely relate to having too many games that I don't want to play. My steam library is full of games that I've acquired over the years and many of them I've never played because I just have no interest in them. Gaming is definitely better when you have access to fewer games because it means that you make the most out of each one and actually look forward to starting something new.
Me and my party used to play every single day after school, now all of us have either full time jobs or are studying at uni. We probably play like once a month or something and whenever we do I go "yes! it's happening again!" It's the best feeling ever. In that moment it's exactly like the good old times.
Thank you so much for this video. Lately it feels like all the things in my life i used to love are going away as well as me going into a depression after my burnout. Your last video really hit me hard. This really helped me to feel some hope for the future. I really like your refective/phycological videos.
A hard part of identifying when that dropoff happens is, in my experience, that its life and other means of entertainment that change the paradigm, not simply "getting bored of it" or getting less enjoyment of each session New games keep coming out and I only have so much time and attention span. Especially when its the multiplayer game du jour and if I don't get in now, nobody will be playing it later.
It's pretty amazing that some games manage to keep me engaged for so long. There have not been that many but those usually have multiple games in series. There are some exceptions for me like Risk of Rain 2, Warframe, Rust, CS:GO, Binding of Isaac and Blade & Sorcery. But with something like Mount & Blade, Monster Hunter, Resident Evil, DMC and Dark Souls getting more new stuff all the time to keep them fresh it's hard to get bored. From the first group I would probably play a sequel but the appeal is certainly fading.
This is so true! I remember playing Turok on the Nintendo64 when I was younger, I thought I played soooo much of it but ended up buying it on Steam not so long ago and realised I had done barely anything on the game, maybe like 5-10 hours. I only just realised that now after this video!
It is a very weired thing. A big game of my childhood was "rummel och rabalder" and thoes three games takes like 10-20 min each to finish but it felt like a never ending game for me as a child. I probably played 1-2 levels and always died and looking back it felt like a ton of hours but I finished them all in less than an hour a few months ago.
I didn't think the previous video was negative at all. I thought it was a very wise and beautiful commentary on how to be mindful and enjoy the good times, and how the brevity and finite nature of life makes it all the more precious. I really liked it.
Something else to consider is how much time gaming consumed in the past. Some time ago I played a number of Atari 2600 games. I jumped from game to game, playing each from about five to fifteen minutes. After an hour or two I was satisfied and stopped. The concept of "rose-tinted nostalgia" generally enters the conversation at this point, but I was satisfied with my experience. I just didn't want more of it. Thinking back to old times, I really did game for 5-30 minutes at a time and constantly introduced new games into the revolving door. Here's a crazy thought: 10 years is enough to move you from a pre-NES era to the original Playstation. How much gaming was accomplished during that time?
I got diagnosed with depression this year and that explains why I never have fun playing games. It's sometimes thrilling and gives me adrenaline, but never happiness or joy. I just pretend to have fun when I play with others, while I just enjoy other's reactions, because I have none
You are one of the best RUclipsr, always thoughtful and generous, and always sharing what you love (very important) but always with integrity and self reflection (most important!) Big love.
I think the trick to avoiding the sad part of this is just variety. You need breaks where you don't or can't play the same thing for a bit, and then you go back to it. I rarely play single player games more than once. I have played through a few of them multiple times, but if I try to replay them right away, I get bored of them very quickly, and just drop them. However if I wait a month or more, and then come back I can replay them fully, and I even more enjoyment from trying to remember things that I don't quite remember anymore.
Probably the wisest video you've made. I normally hate the kind of "how to approach your life: a tutorial made by not fucking you, with no basis in science" video this kinda reminds me of, but this is really reasonable, insightful, and worded in a way that doesn't make it sound like a lecture or coaching session. Nice. I think a reason your audience holds onto those memories of social experiences while gaming is, among other things, lack of social skills/introversion/social anxiety. I mean, if you're the kind of person whose life consisted of many social activities at that time, you're probably one of the people who stopped logging on for those gaming sessions to move onto other things, not the one who was left behind. Plus it feels harder to find groups nowadays. In the times we think of fondly, online gaming was dominated by people our age, now the distribution is much more spread out and not really set up in our favour. The games changed too, matchmaking systems made games much more anonymous, good internet means Europeans play with people who they can't communicate with half the time, not to mention any sort of banter.
I find myself in a weird place where I go back and boot up grindy games again just to enjoy the singleplayer gameplay loop I got super hooked on. I play and make games but I wonder if I'm doing myself a huge disservice by not trying to seek out one of the 1000s of games I already own instead of buying whatever catches my eye and influences my preferences next.
You have quite accurately described the reason i mostly play and buy indie games these days. They are often short, concise experiences, where the end usually is the end (unless you absolutely want to) i had way more fun playing games like "a short hike" and "owlboy" than the free copy of mafia 3 i got with the purchase of my GTX 1070 back in the days.
I think half my games of 500 on steam is enjoying the first 5 or 6 hours and never playing it again.. Even now i have the possibility.. And i miss those times. I miss my old group too.
Can you not hit me with double existential dread in one night? Nah for real this is some solid advice, and can be applied in more places than one. I've been wondering why I've been burnt out with old games, and I think you just pointed out the obvious that I SHOULD have seen before it made me sad. Going to be showing these two videos to my friends who feel the same.
The older you get, the quicker time seems to pass... and that's a fact of life itself. It's immutable, a case of how it is. The older we get, the quicker we get tired, too. I could spend an entire night playing through a game -- well, that's no longer. The more through life I get, the more there it is than just gaming. Chores, errands, responsibilities... more than life than online friends. None of those change the glorious past, though. :) Sweet memories and nostalgia, perhaps those are things to leave to the youth to savor. :)
with time you also amass more games, back in the days when we were kids, most of us didn't get to play every new game we wanted to play, we had a few games and played them as much as we could because we were allowed to, I played so many levels from demo discs over and over again and I was completely happy imagining what the full game would be like, I even mastered a few demos that were time based, to get the most out of my playtime, then came browser games, small little games you would play in your free time at school (or during classes) they were small games, with barely any content, but we played them, because we couldn't bring consoles to school, yes we had gameboys and stuff, but this was something new but now, we are oversaturated with games, every gaming service has uncountable games for us to download and play in an instant, you are stuck in an endless loop of searching for a game you want to play and are driven to buying new games everytime you don't know what to play, because new is better (or so we might think) I also find myself giving up on old games alot, games I adored as a child, I can't seem to be bothered to play for a long time, because they are clunky and not as refined as newer games are now, in my particular case replaying games I already played through has a bit of a bitter taste, because I basically know how the game goes and how it ends and when I catch myself thinking, now this happens and then this happens, I start to lose interest because I still remember it
I used to seriously play CSGO, I would spend hours “training” my aim and almost obsessing about my rank. I then realised that it was all a waste of time - I didn’t enjoy minimal improvement/grinding and my friends had already moved on. That was when I decided to leave CSGO behind, in favour of singleplayer games as well as other multiplayer games. It is all about enjoyment and pleasure! Comparing multiplayer and singleplayer games is akin to comparing digital media and reading: singleplayer games and reading require more time than other media to attain pleasure - pleasure which is absolutely incomparable to anything!
Same. It pained me when I "retired" from Rocket League last year, but although it was VERY fun while it lasted and I'm glad to have played, right now I can safely say that I don't miss it one bit.
Growing up late PS1/early PS2 I remember games being a lot harder as well, like sly racoon (my favourite as a kid) was really unforgiving and rage inducing given it was one hit kill unless you found a lucky charm. They changed this in later games but still had some insanely tricky missions. I was a the pro of the street at sly rac 1 when I was a kid, couple years ago I found my ps2, booted up sly and rage quit within half an hour at how insanely hard it was to get right. Maybe I just have less patience now then when I was younger and had nothing else to do
Damn, this really resonates me and I agree completely. Although, I recently started playing/replaying old games, and goddamn are they better than most modern games.
Super happy that another video got put out! I never thought about your last video like some other people did, instead I did what you did - remember some old groups of people I played with and moved on. After all, if we don't keep on moving aren't we doomed to stay the same?
I think that's the main reason I've been playing SP games (I have 87 SP games installed and 41 VR ones) and only have like 5 MP ones that I only play with friends or don't mind having 5 to 10 minute matches. In fact, right now I'm looking at my steam collection (I like to install all games I haven't played yet, which is a problem in terms of storage, but have adapted by installing more drives) and looking for SP games that have a short length. The last one I played was Before your Eyes, which was a refreshingly short, heartwarming game. I may now finish Gris and see where it leads to, maybe Journey? IDK.
You are right. The last few days I tried to replay a Singleplayer game, just because I spent hundreds of hours having fun with it before. Its not fun, I should move on.
You can only have fun in the future, when you accept that the past is the past, and nothing more than beautiful memories. Maybe you dont see your friends anymore, but you'll always keep those happy memories.
I recently came to this realization when looking at my old xbox account. Felt like I played Xbox live for ages when really, all my fondest memories took place in a 3.5 year time span. Then I moved onto PC in 2012 and the 10 years I've spent there don't seem nearly as long.
Used to be part of a GMod RP community, really missed it. Went back and the remaining community was a shadow of it's former self, full of bickering. Kind of wish I didn't cause now I'm bored of it rather then only having good memories.
the game i played most is minecraft, i think i played over tens of thousands of hours, or at least 10k, at least it feels like it, i've been playing it for almost... 10 years... omg, time passed fast. Anyway, there was a time in 2016-2017 when i got burnt out on it and went on and played other games like Scrap Mechanic and csgo which i'd bought in december of 2016 (almost got my 5 year coin) and then i returned around spring 2018 when I had also discovered how much minecraft mods had made me want to play the game again and the sheer content they could add and which allows me to not get bored of it even today.
I do remember enjoying the hell out of GTA:SA and playing it for years. I obviously don't enjoy it as much and have little to no fun just roaming around in the game which used to be really fun for me. The games i remember playing over and over again are the games i've actually really spent a LOT of time on. GTA:SA, Skyrim, LoL are all games i have thousands of hours in. The first CoDs and MOHAA would be closer to what this video is describing though, i loved those games, they're kind of short now that i'm older and know exactly how to progress through levels instead of having to translate the objectives every time (Seriously, i learned English that way, figuring out what words meant was a huge part of playing those WW2 shooters for me.) But i think i can appreciate both short sweet games and long journey style games, i don't consider the games a grind if they're part of a journey, as long as i feel like i'm accomplishing something or if the game is giving me satisfaction. But i absolutely hate collectibles and grind challenges in games, Most of the time they're just a time sink with little to no reward, If a game is asking me to collect stuff for 5 hours before giving me a 5 minute cutscene to tell me i collected them all, I'll just go and watch that on youtube instead. As a final note, i mentioned Skyrim in my top time spent in game, I've actually installed mods to make the game as grindy as possible so i don't just storm through quests and get bored, that way i feel like i can just return to the game wherever i left off and continue my journey, i don't care about leaving the game in the middle of something for 5 months and coming back later because i know that one play session only consists of a couple of quests in the game, which helps me keep my focus and enjoy the journey to the next quest marker, because that's why i have all those ENB and beautiful graphics mods, If I'm not enjoying them, then what's the point ?
Mindfulness is an important characteristic to have. Your recognition of a cycle of "intrigued, hooked, engaged, tired, exhausted, and shelved/revisited" is healthy. It's a cycle present in all sub and meta-segments in reality. Embrace it.
The point about games being grindier and grindier is one of the reasons why I love Forza Horizon 1 so much compared to the sequels. It felt like a game you can just play from start to finish, because you totally could, it had an actual storyline to follow that took you through most tracks in the game and slowly ramped up the stakes and it felt awesome! When I boot up Horizon 5 i just see an endless amount of checkboxes and modes and events and I just drive around for a bit, alt+f4 and go back to playing something. You can just play Horizon 1, cherish those memories, and then return to it a couple years later and play it again from start to finish. Modern games working desperately against that ultimately kill that feeling for me every time
I managed to relate to this video a lot more than the first one lol (probably cause my multiplayer experiences pale in comparison to singleplayer ones). When I try games, I am interested, but reluctant at first. After playing for a while, either it doesn't interest me enough to keep playing, either it *hooks* me in. And when I'm hooked for a game I want to play it as quickly as possible. I enjoy those moments, but it usually makes it hard to focus on other things at the time, like work - I end up working less and playing more. And when I finish the game everything goes back to normal. Despite that looking back those experiences are still nice to remember PS. The first video talked about saving and recording those moments to look back on them. The big issues come when you just can't do that... Either your PC is too weak, either you have no storage, either, years down the line you *have* to delete it because you are running out of storage (which is really annoying) and you can't be sure it's safe to, say, privately post it on RUclips, because you and your buddies might've listened to music that's copyrighted, and now you're worried about copyright bs...
I never had the chance to participate into gaming with my close irl friends in discord or joining a LAN party in my life. Seeing all the reactions from the first video made me thinking if I should be happy that I never experienced it so that I don't feel too much about remembering the past, or I should be sad that I didn't experience something so memorable.
bro copyright bs means nothing. what do you want to get youtube recommendations, get popular and get money? then maybe i'd consider uploading it to a second channel, and keep your main one to do RUclipsr'y things. but uploading to youtube really is easy
@@homeyworkey I've had entire videos muted or blocked from being uploaded unless you mute portions, but you're right. It's a minor issue - one that you shouldn't worry about. I just meant that, nowadays (or at least... recently, given what happened to Discord music bots anyway) people who sit around Discord groups playing games all day usually get a Discord bot to blast music all the time - given that popular music is often copyrighted to hell, the one time I naively uploaded a video with popular music in it got my video slapped with multiple country blocks and shit, so I think you're at risk if your groups end up doing that... for me it doesn't apply though
@@RealHellession i've had videos which had copyright videos upload fine, i just dont get money which idc about. and ive never seen country blocks but surely with your friends that doesn't really matter, unless ur playing with friends in countries where its blocked
With Steam keeping track of hours in game, it clears up the question of how long did I really play? I distinctly remember playing Rocket League for hundreds of hours, but when I check my steam, I realize I just barely hit 100 hours. Or look at The Division, a game in college that I spent every night playing with friends from my hometown, but when I look at the records, I've only played 60ish hours. Nostalgia's a bitch
I played 1.6 and csgo with my friend for many years, many ours deep in the night. Even on lan, won some local tournaments. Then it faded away. Almost a Decade went by. But then: Valorant released. It felt familiar. More Like cs (1.6) than actual cs(Go) did. So grabbed my Heart and texted my friend. He was sceptical at First, but tried it Out. We played the whole night. We played and laughted. And the night after, too. And the next one, too. Almost a week Long. We fehlt Like Teenagers againe. It was beautiful. This was appx a year ago. 2 Weeks ago, we only played one complete day and night againe, but this sureley wont bei the Last one. Like Phillip Said, you can experience It againe. Now and then. And its absolutely wonderful this way.
I am confused , wasn't the other video about losing friends with time because that's just how life is and even though you think you'll be forever friends with them, you wont because of responsibilities and adulthood or something like that idk? Was it about gaming? I thought gaming in that video just existed as sumn you enjoyed with your friends and it honestly could have been anything that all three of you could share.
Hey Philip, I know I've made this comment before, but after LTT's daily driver linux challenge, do you think you would try something similar too? I know it's gonna be an imperfect experience, but I would love to see your perspective.
Philip, I think you would really enjoy the game Outer Wilds. I've watched many of your reviews and I believe there's a strong chance you would fall in love with it. It's an extremely rewarding experience to play through and you don't have to worry about it over staying it's welcome because by the end you'll wish you could erase your memory and play it for the first time again because you only get to do that once. Exploration and deduction are the main driving forces of the game so I can't say too much about it. I may be someone you don't know, with tastes that are entirely unknown to you, telling you to play a game they can't describe to you so I ask that you just give it a go. I always find your insight on games to be interesting so even if you don't end up liking it as much I think you will I'd like to hear your thoughts on it. Thank you for taking the time to read.
I' ve played a Short Hike a month ago. It was only because I had planned that id one day I was kind of sad, i' ve heard it was a really nice cute game (and also that I was downloading back again csgo in the back) I started playing saying, yeah ok, it' s nice and all. An then I kind of felt in love, tried to help the people I met as much as possible, until at a moment I finally decided I as ready enough to go to the top of the mountain, it was even rather easy as I had helped so much people in my great adventure, that all had a different reason of being. When I finaly decided to go to the top and arrived, I was so happy of everything I had lived in all this time, telling myself that wow time flied as I had already finished downloading csgo in the background, and wanted to stay on the game still. The game made what happened at the top. And I got this feeling "Now what". I actually didn't want to leave, everything was so great there. So I flied around the game, trying to search for new people, new feathers. Slowly for every thing I did and everything becoming harder and harder to find. The happy world was actually going away slowly and slowly and I didn't want to let go of it. Hell I was almost accepting to do the fishing just to stay more xD! I even thought about speedrunning the game to have an excuse to come back before tellnig me it was going to ruin the experience. And then I remembered I had to tell my aunt (in the game) all that happened, I went to it, told her everything, and saw there was my small room there. I decided to run to it to see if there was something like an easter egg or something funny: I clicked on the door "Do you want to go to sleep?" Yes! *Black screen for 5 seconds... And then main menu* I was devastated, I had actually accidentally quited this wonderful small beautiful world by accident. And I knew I shouldn't click back on play or on continue, because. It's over, it's done that's all, I had lived a great long adventure with a ton of friends! I closed the game. It had only been 2 hours and 5 minutes It stayed downloaded on my pc for two week because I couldn't stand the idea of erasing this little world. And I kinda miss those little two hours
I like the positive sentiment of this video. Both nostalgia and regret can be anchors, constraining us in place. To stay happy and fulfilled, we have to be willing to cut ourselves free.
I find regularly if I have time to play games I get a bit “gaming apathy”. Like I can imagine playing a given game and go “nah”. But then I do that for about 30mins and don’t end up playing anything. But then the opposite is true too. I got hooked to shadow of war so much I had to uninstall it.
My greatest issue is getting bored of game or starting another game before I'm ready to move on. I love playing 7 Days to Die, but I know when I start playing it, I lose interest in the game I was playing right before that. I wanted to get all the acheivements in Skyrim, but I had beat the game and there was little challenge after upgrading my gear, so it felt harder to finish the other questlines for the achievements. Just recently, I wanted to make an awesome city in Cities Skylines. I played quite a bit of it, unlocked all the things in my city and nothing was stopping me from continuing to expand. But I got fustrated with my earlier mistakes and constant traffic problems and haven't felt like playing it. I want to keep going, but I can't feel the motivitation to do so. I know one day, I'll play it again, but I'll probably start fresh.
*sigh Right now marks a turning point in my life. I'm basically friendless. All the connections from high school withered away to nothing. 4 years of the best times of my life. Over. All i have to look forward to is work in a job i don't like. I think that philip is in a unique position, as not only he has gone through the golden age of gaming (games that you could make friends in), these relationships are only lost because of a lost interest. I don't think i will have much luck finding adult friends. I'm settling in for 2022 to be more of the same. I'll recomment on this at the end of 2022 if anything changes.
Well, Philip, I have been following you for years because of your often retrospective content resonating with me and providing me with the best parasocial relationship I could ask for; The fact that the previous video sent everyone into depression just proves that you've still got what it takes to satisfy long-time viewers.
Anyone grow up with Minecraft and you actually spent like 10000s of hours playing it? (Factions, singleplayer, PVP, prison break, parkour, puzzle maps, modded etc etc.)
i cant get new games for 6 months after the previous, so when i finish something like teardown, well i blow stuf f up for about 5. it sucks to me, but i did get a new game like a month ago called stormworks that keeps bringing me back.
I just think that people have become used to being overstimulated. They need a constant barrage of information just to stop themselves from yawning. It's reached a point where the things that got them to that level don't do it anymore and they keep chasing a stronger high that never comes. Back in the day i only had the demo version of the first episode of the OG doom. I remember religiously playing that for hours on end every day. Dying and starting from the complete start either cuz it had no save feature cuz of it being a demo or cuz I was too bad at English to do it. Older games were grindy frustrating messes but we stuck with them cuz we had nothing else to stimulate us and we won't be able to convince our parents to buy us a new game in the foreseeable future.
aha, despite the positive message underneath, the video felt even gloomier than the first one, IMO. But yeah, I definitely feel what you say. Some games did outstay their welcome with me, and I only realized it later on, after I went through the cycle several times. I guess the only solution is experience and not being lazy :)
Really depending on the game tbh. I have 250 hours in new vegas and its very likely ill start a new playthrough again. But i have only played metro for around 30-40 hours per game though id say i love both equally as much.
Well stated. I’m 48 and still enthusiastically find myself playing the occasional AAA game and have a plethora of games in my Steam account that I have yet to install or play. More disposable income and less disposable time have made me reconsider playing many games that are too grind driven. Love your channel and appreciate your viewpoint.
OMG look at all this money I'm getting from work I'll be able to buy and play so many games I always wanted
Work: I don't think so
People don’t understand how I can be perfectly happy with launching a game, playing for 3-4 hours then never launching it again.
I enjoyed those 3-4 hours immensely, but never got the urge to open it again. Then too much time passes.. but I am content with my personal experience :)
@@2kliksphilip "Ubisoft games are objectively better than Celeste!!!"
@@2kliksphilip Objectively speaking - yes. However an 8 hour game will always have more potential to be entertaining for more hours than a 4 hour game. That is, of course, if the entire 8 hour experience is as enjoyable as the 4 hour experience. It's not that a shorter games are worse or better, it's just that the longer ones have a higher ceiling and it's only up to the developers if they're going to make it work, and if they do, the game will end up better than the shorter one.
Superhot is a great example.
True and short quality games have their place but it is often painful paying for a game that you can finish in a reasonable day. Its about value for money. Which isnt to say more hours per dollar is better, its more time of enjoyment per hour
years of intense budgeting as a child has put me in the habit of wanting to get all the time I can out of a game for my money's worth even if I don't enjoy it
I really like these “series” type videos. Thank you Philip!
You mean serious?
@@Julian-wd8ym no, I just like how he made a follow up to his previous vid. It keeps me engaged to his videos so I think it’s pretty nice.
@@ivanwickum6141 oh ok. I was not sure how you meabt it :)
i always knew you were a good dude, but this video really shows it. you could have made that previous video and moved on with your life, but you saw peoples responses and decided to take it into your own hands to show them theres more. you rock, keep up the great content
It does almost feel like a safeguarding intervention for kliksphilip viewers.
game design sure does have a large impact on nostalgia, I 've had a great experience with "kingdom come deliverance" as a game I had zero expectation for that i got because I had the time I was surprised by how quickly it got me captured and the idea of navigating a world i was unfamiliar with, the strange mechanics i did not quite understand made me feel like i was in my early teens all over again. what I believe we lack is the "not understanding" of a game mechanics, the exploration part of the game.
Same, gonna replay it soon. So much fun.
2:30 omg I get this so much lol. It feels like I played some games in my childhood for hundreds of hours. Yet when I go back and play them I realized I played up until the 5th mission, and can't have spent more than a few hours on it
what in the world, how does this man be so relatable to so many level, no other youtuber has ever made me feel this way, props you klik!
Probably because he talks about what he has on his mind, and doesn't try to suck up to the mythical algorithm, too much.
Definitely, agree with this follow up the same way I did with the previous one.
As someone who has repeatedly gotten, what would be described as a "burn-out" if it was about my work, with gaming, I seriously think people need the variety, not just within gaming, but also with other hobbies. Maybe start writing a book, meet friends IRL and play board games or start building models or whatnot.
Well said and I completely relate. Phillip talks on gaming in this video since that’s his focus, but “variety is the spice of life” is better applied to the whole human experience. I’m extremely burnt out with work to the point that playing games and watching movies can sometimes be equally as “draining” and depressing, but just hanging out with people or going out shopping lifts my mood quite a bit. I think everyone is having a harder time breaking out of their comfort zone with not only gaming but the holistic human experience due to covid lockdown, economic stresses, etc. It’s a lot easier to wallow in misery than to go out and make new experiences with everything crazy going on these days
Well said. I've often made the mistake of trying to stick with a game even when I no longer enjoy it and it always leaves me with bitter feelings towards the game, even if I liked most of my time with it.
Also, I can definitely relate to having too many games that I don't want to play. My steam library is full of games that I've acquired over the years and many of them I've never played because I just have no interest in them. Gaming is definitely better when you have access to fewer games because it means that you make the most out of each one and actually look forward to starting something new.
honestly needed both these videos
been REALLY down in the dirt for a a year mainly bc of whats described in the prev video
a new perspective helps
Videos like these are amazing. I can re-watch them multiple times and find a new perspective on things or more ideas to contemplate. Thanks Philip!
Me and my party used to play every single day after school, now all of us have either full time jobs or are studying at uni. We probably play like once a month or something and whenever we do I go "yes! it's happening again!" It's the best feeling ever. In that moment it's exactly like the good old times.
Thank you so much for this video.
Lately it feels like all the things in my life i used to love are going away as well as me going into a depression after my burnout. Your last video really hit me hard. This really helped me to feel some hope for the future. I really like your refective/phycological videos.
You are slowly becoming a gaming guru. You have the wisdom. Thanks for these.
A hard part of identifying when that dropoff happens is, in my experience, that its life and other means of entertainment that change the paradigm, not simply "getting bored of it" or getting less enjoyment of each session
New games keep coming out and I only have so much time and attention span. Especially when its the multiplayer game du jour and if I don't get in now, nobody will be playing it later.
It's pretty amazing that some games manage to keep me engaged for so long. There have not been that many but those usually have multiple games in series. There are some exceptions for me like Risk of Rain 2, Warframe, Rust, CS:GO, Binding of Isaac and Blade & Sorcery.
But with something like Mount & Blade, Monster Hunter, Resident Evil, DMC and Dark Souls getting more new stuff all the time to keep them fresh it's hard to get bored.
From the first group I would probably play a sequel but the appeal is certainly fading.
This is so true! I remember playing Turok on the Nintendo64 when I was younger, I thought I played soooo much of it but ended up buying it on Steam not so long ago and realised I had done barely anything on the game, maybe like 5-10 hours. I only just realised that now after this video!
It is a very weired thing. A big game of my childhood was "rummel och rabalder" and thoes three games takes like 10-20 min each to finish but it felt like a never ending game for me as a child. I probably played 1-2 levels and always died and looking back it felt like a ton of hours but I finished them all in less than an hour a few months ago.
I didn't think the previous video was negative at all. I thought it was a very wise and beautiful commentary on how to be mindful and enjoy the good times, and how the brevity and finite nature of life makes it all the more precious. I really liked it.
Something else to consider is how much time gaming consumed in the past. Some time ago I played a number of Atari 2600 games. I jumped from game to game, playing each from about five to fifteen minutes. After an hour or two I was satisfied and stopped. The concept of "rose-tinted nostalgia" generally enters the conversation at this point, but I was satisfied with my experience. I just didn't want more of it. Thinking back to old times, I really did game for 5-30 minutes at a time and constantly introduced new games into the revolving door. Here's a crazy thought: 10 years is enough to move you from a pre-NES era to the original Playstation. How much gaming was accomplished during that time?
I got diagnosed with depression this year and that explains why I never have fun playing games. It's sometimes thrilling and gives me adrenaline, but never happiness or joy.
I just pretend to have fun when I play with others, while I just enjoy other's reactions, because I have none
@@mbsfaridi I have been jogging everyday for a year.
I loved the last video. Life is transient, so you have to make the best of it.
You are one of the best RUclipsr, always thoughtful and generous, and always sharing what you love (very important) but always with integrity and self reflection (most important!) Big love.
Unreal Tournament 99' OST hits hard as a rock with as many feelings you can get...
I think the trick to avoiding the sad part of this is just variety. You need breaks where you don't or can't play the same thing for a bit, and then you go back to it. I rarely play single player games more than once. I have played through a few of them multiple times, but if I try to replay them right away, I get bored of them very quickly, and just drop them. However if I wait a month or more, and then come back I can replay them fully, and I even more enjoyment from trying to remember things that I don't quite remember anymore.
Probably the wisest video you've made.
I normally hate the kind of "how to approach your life: a tutorial made by not fucking you, with no basis in science" video this kinda reminds me of, but this is really reasonable, insightful, and worded in a way that doesn't make it sound like a lecture or coaching session. Nice.
I think a reason your audience holds onto those memories of social experiences while gaming is, among other things, lack of social skills/introversion/social anxiety. I mean, if you're the kind of person whose life consisted of many social activities at that time, you're probably one of the people who stopped logging on for those gaming sessions to move onto other things, not the one who was left behind.
Plus it feels harder to find groups nowadays. In the times we think of fondly, online gaming was dominated by people our age, now the distribution is much more spread out and not really set up in our favour.
The games changed too, matchmaking systems made games much more anonymous, good internet means Europeans play with people who they can't communicate with half the time, not to mention any sort of banter.
I find myself in a weird place where I go back and boot up grindy games again just to enjoy the singleplayer gameplay loop I got super hooked on. I play and make games but I wonder if I'm doing myself a huge disservice by not trying to seek out one of the 1000s of games I already own instead of buying whatever catches my eye and influences my preferences next.
Thank you for another great video Philip. I love how you can put into words things that I think about every day.
You have quite accurately described the reason i mostly play and buy indie games these days. They are often short, concise experiences, where the end usually is the end (unless you absolutely want to)
i had way more fun playing games like "a short hike" and "owlboy" than the free copy of mafia 3 i got with the purchase of my GTX 1070 back in the days.
I think half my games of 500 on steam is enjoying the first 5 or 6 hours and never playing it again.. Even now i have the possibility.. And i miss those times.
I miss my old group too.
Can you not hit me with double existential dread in one night?
Nah for real this is some solid advice, and can be applied in more places than one. I've been wondering why I've been burnt out with old games, and I think you just pointed out the obvious that I SHOULD have seen before it made me sad.
Going to be showing these two videos to my friends who feel the same.
The older you get, the quicker time seems to pass... and that's a fact of life itself. It's immutable, a case of how it is.
The older we get, the quicker we get tired, too. I could spend an entire night playing through a game -- well, that's no longer.
The more through life I get, the more there it is than just gaming. Chores, errands, responsibilities... more than life than online friends.
None of those change the glorious past, though. :) Sweet memories and nostalgia, perhaps those are things to leave to the youth to savor. :)
I like how half way through the video Philip decided to upscale the pixelated ps1 games
This is fantastically refreshing and exactly what I needed to hear/realise. Thanks.
with time you also amass more games, back in the days when we were kids, most of us didn't get to play every new game we wanted to play, we had a few games and played them as much as we could because we were allowed to, I played so many levels from demo discs over and over again and I was completely happy imagining what the full game would be like, I even mastered a few demos that were time based, to get the most out of my playtime, then came browser games, small little games you would play in your free time at school (or during classes) they were small games, with barely any content, but we played them, because we couldn't bring consoles to school, yes we had gameboys and stuff, but this was something new
but now, we are oversaturated with games, every gaming service has uncountable games for us to download and play in an instant, you are stuck in an endless loop of searching for a game you want to play and are driven to buying new games everytime you don't know what to play, because new is better (or so we might think)
I also find myself giving up on old games alot, games I adored as a child, I can't seem to be bothered to play for a long time, because they are clunky and not as refined as newer games are now, in my particular case replaying games I already played through has a bit of a bitter taste, because I basically know how the game goes and how it ends and when I catch myself thinking, now this happens and then this happens, I start to lose interest because I still remember it
Thanks philep I'm still crying tho
1:09 I don't like how accurate this is lol because I had this exact same experience. Also they're the most recent singleplayer games I've completed.
Lovely try on an explanation. The video gave me a wholesome feeling. Thank you.
I resonate a lot with these videos to a scary amount, thanks for making them so we know we aren't alone :)
I used to seriously play CSGO, I would spend hours “training” my aim and almost obsessing about my rank. I then realised that it was all a waste of time - I didn’t enjoy minimal improvement/grinding and my friends had already moved on. That was when I decided to leave CSGO behind, in favour of singleplayer games as well as other multiplayer games. It is all about enjoyment and pleasure! Comparing multiplayer and singleplayer games is akin to comparing digital media and reading: singleplayer games and reading require more time than other media to attain pleasure - pleasure which is absolutely incomparable to anything!
So true I think everyone eventually has this revelation
Same. It pained me when I "retired" from Rocket League last year, but although it was VERY fun while it lasted and I'm glad to have played, right now I can safely say that I don't miss it one bit.
I think this is why i love linear games so mutch. I play them once and i never toutch them again, but all i have is happy memorys of them
Growing up late PS1/early PS2 I remember games being a lot harder as well, like sly racoon (my favourite as a kid) was really unforgiving and rage inducing given it was one hit kill unless you found a lucky charm. They changed this in later games but still had some insanely tricky missions. I was a the pro of the street at sly rac 1 when I was a kid, couple years ago I found my ps2, booted up sly and rage quit within half an hour at how insanely hard it was to get right. Maybe I just have less patience now then when I was younger and had nothing else to do
Thanks for this video. Great philosophical insight.
I cant say the same about the last one , but this video made me cry after a very long time.
Damn, this really resonates me and I agree completely. Although, I recently started playing/replaying old games, and goddamn are they better than most modern games.
Super happy that another video got put out! I never thought about your last video like some other people did, instead I did what you did - remember some old groups of people I played with and moved on. After all, if we don't keep on moving aren't we doomed to stay the same?
I think that's the main reason I've been playing SP games (I have 87 SP games installed and 41 VR ones) and only have like 5 MP ones that I only play with friends or don't mind having 5 to 10 minute matches.
In fact, right now I'm looking at my steam collection (I like to install all games I haven't played yet, which is a problem in terms of storage, but have adapted by installing more drives) and looking for SP games that have a short length. The last one I played was Before your Eyes, which was a refreshingly short, heartwarming game. I may now finish Gris and see where it leads to, maybe Journey? IDK.
You are right. The last few days I tried to replay a Singleplayer game, just because I spent hundreds of hours having fun with it before. Its not fun, I should move on.
Well this video makes me feel a lot better than the last. Thank you for what you do!
You can only have fun in the future, when you accept that the past is the past, and nothing more than beautiful memories.
Maybe you dont see your friends anymore, but you'll always keep those happy memories.
congrats, you discovered what sovietwomble's been doing for at least 5 years now
I recently came to this realization when looking at my old xbox account. Felt like I played Xbox live for ages when really, all my fondest memories took place in a 3.5 year time span. Then I moved onto PC in 2012 and the 10 years I've spent there don't seem nearly as long.
its like meet the robinsons, keep moving foward
Used to be part of a GMod RP community, really missed it. Went back and the remaining community was a shadow of it's former self, full of bickering. Kind of wish I didn't cause now I'm bored of it rather then only having good memories.
the game i played most is minecraft, i think i played over tens of thousands of hours, or at least 10k, at least it feels like it, i've been playing it for almost... 10 years... omg, time passed fast. Anyway, there was a time in 2016-2017 when i got burnt out on it and went on and played other games like Scrap Mechanic and csgo which i'd bought in december of 2016 (almost got my 5 year coin) and then i returned around spring 2018 when I had also discovered how much minecraft mods had made me want to play the game again and the sheer content they could add and which allows me to not get bored of it even today.
For me, I actually know for sure that i have played the original Spyro trilogy at least 20 times. I loved those games to death.
I do remember enjoying the hell out of GTA:SA and playing it for years. I obviously don't enjoy it as much and have little to no fun just roaming around in the game which used to be really fun for me.
The games i remember playing over and over again are the games i've actually really spent a LOT of time on. GTA:SA, Skyrim, LoL are all games i have thousands of hours in. The first CoDs and MOHAA would be closer to what this video is describing though, i loved those games, they're kind of short now that i'm older and know exactly how to progress through levels instead of having to translate the objectives every time (Seriously, i learned English that way, figuring out what words meant was a huge part of playing those WW2 shooters for me.)
But i think i can appreciate both short sweet games and long journey style games, i don't consider the games a grind if they're part of a journey, as long as i feel like i'm accomplishing something or if the game is giving me satisfaction. But i absolutely hate collectibles and grind challenges in games, Most of the time they're just a time sink with little to no reward, If a game is asking me to collect stuff for 5 hours before giving me a 5 minute cutscene to tell me i collected them all, I'll just go and watch that on youtube instead.
As a final note, i mentioned Skyrim in my top time spent in game, I've actually installed mods to make the game as grindy as possible so i don't just storm through quests and get bored, that way i feel like i can just return to the game wherever i left off and continue my journey, i don't care about leaving the game in the middle of something for 5 months and coming back later because i know that one play session only consists of a couple of quests in the game, which helps me keep my focus and enjoy the journey to the next quest marker, because that's why i have all those ENB and beautiful graphics mods, If I'm not enjoying them, then what's the point ?
Time spent in the early years of life feels longer. But the older you get it becomes opposite.
Mindfulness is an important characteristic to have.
Your recognition of a cycle of "intrigued, hooked, engaged, tired, exhausted, and shelved/revisited" is healthy.
It's a cycle present in all sub and meta-segments in reality.
Embrace it.
The point about games being grindier and grindier is one of the reasons why I love Forza Horizon 1 so much compared to the sequels. It felt like a game you can just play from start to finish, because you totally could, it had an actual storyline to follow that took you through most tracks in the game and slowly ramped up the stakes and it felt awesome!
When I boot up Horizon 5 i just see an endless amount of checkboxes and modes and events and I just drive around for a bit, alt+f4 and go back to playing something.
You can just play Horizon 1, cherish those memories, and then return to it a couple years later and play it again from start to finish. Modern games working desperately against that ultimately kill that feeling for me every time
I managed to relate to this video a lot more than the first one lol (probably cause my multiplayer experiences pale in comparison to singleplayer ones).
When I try games, I am interested, but reluctant at first. After playing for a while, either it doesn't interest me enough to keep playing, either it *hooks* me in. And when I'm hooked for a game I want to play it as quickly as possible. I enjoy those moments, but it usually makes it hard to focus on other things at the time, like work - I end up working less and playing more. And when I finish the game everything goes back to normal. Despite that looking back those experiences are still nice to remember
PS. The first video talked about saving and recording those moments to look back on them. The big issues come when you just can't do that... Either your PC is too weak, either you have no storage, either, years down the line you *have* to delete it because you are running out of storage (which is really annoying) and you can't be sure it's safe to, say, privately post it on RUclips, because you and your buddies might've listened to music that's copyrighted, and now you're worried about copyright bs...
I never had the chance to participate into gaming with my close irl friends in discord or joining a LAN party in my life. Seeing all the reactions from the first video made me thinking if I should be happy that I never experienced it so that I don't feel too much about remembering the past, or I should be sad that I didn't experience something so memorable.
bro copyright bs means nothing. what do you want to get youtube recommendations, get popular and get money? then maybe i'd consider uploading it to a second channel, and keep your main one to do RUclipsr'y things. but uploading to youtube really is easy
@@homeyworkey I've had entire videos muted or blocked from being uploaded unless you mute portions, but you're right. It's a minor issue - one that you shouldn't worry about.
I just meant that, nowadays (or at least... recently, given what happened to Discord music bots anyway) people who sit around Discord groups playing games all day usually get a Discord bot to blast music all the time - given that popular music is often copyrighted to hell, the one time I naively uploaded a video with popular music in it got my video slapped with multiple country blocks and shit, so I think you're at risk if your groups end up doing that... for me it doesn't apply though
@@RealHellession i've had videos which had copyright videos upload fine, i just dont get money which idc about. and ive never seen country blocks but surely with your friends that doesn't really matter, unless ur playing with friends in countries where its blocked
This video reminded me that I will replay Deus Ex forever
With Steam keeping track of hours in game, it clears up the question of how long did I really play? I distinctly remember playing Rocket League for hundreds of hours, but when I check my steam, I realize I just barely hit 100 hours. Or look at The Division, a game in college that I spent every night playing with friends from my hometown, but when I look at the records, I've only played 60ish hours.
Nostalgia's a bitch
This is such a amazing video
I'm not crying, you are!
I played 1.6 and csgo with my friend for many years, many ours deep in the night. Even on lan, won some local tournaments.
Then it faded away. Almost a Decade went by. But then:
Valorant released. It felt familiar. More Like cs (1.6) than actual cs(Go) did.
So grabbed my Heart and texted my friend. He was sceptical at First, but tried it Out.
We played the whole night. We played and laughted.
And the night after, too.
And the next one, too.
Almost a week Long.
We fehlt Like Teenagers againe.
It was beautiful.
This was appx a year ago.
2 Weeks ago, we only played one complete day and night againe, but this sureley wont bei the Last one.
Like Phillip Said, you can experience It againe.
Now and then.
And its absolutely wonderful this way.
AoE2 tonight? :)
Wötér is de spice off life. You must preserve your bödy's wötér.
I am confused , wasn't the other video about losing friends with time because that's just how life is and even though you think you'll be forever friends with them, you wont because of responsibilities and adulthood or something like that idk? Was it about gaming? I thought gaming in that video just existed as sumn you enjoyed with your friends and it honestly could have been anything that all three of you could share.
For a random variety RUclipsr, you have a great deal of insight.
this needs a part 3
This is straight calling out entire osrs community. Love it.
you never get bored of runescape, you just take long breaks lol
@@checker297 you never quit, you just take long breaks. I think my break is about to be eternally long.
Hey Philip, I know I've made this comment before, but after LTT's daily driver linux challenge, do you think you would try something similar too?
I know it's gonna be an imperfect experience, but I would love to see your perspective.
that'd be cool to see
thank you for making this follow-up :')
accidently turning into a philosophy channel after realizing that everyone on this channel shares the same nieche experiences
Philip, I think you would really enjoy the game Outer Wilds. I've watched many of your reviews and I believe there's a strong chance you would fall in love with it. It's an extremely rewarding experience to play through and you don't have to worry about it over staying it's welcome because by the end you'll wish you could erase your memory and play it for the first time again because you only get to do that once. Exploration and deduction are the main driving forces of the game so I can't say too much about it. I may be someone you don't know, with tastes that are entirely unknown to you, telling you to play a game they can't describe to you so I ask that you just give it a go. I always find your insight on games to be interesting so even if you don't end up liking it as much I think you will I'd like to hear your thoughts on it. Thank you for taking the time to read.
It would be perfect for him.
Philip will you be doing any videos over the new AOE game?
I' ve played a Short Hike a month ago.
It was only because I had planned that id one day I was kind of sad, i' ve heard it was a really nice cute game (and also that I was downloading back again csgo in the back)
I started playing saying, yeah ok, it' s nice and all. An then I kind of felt in love, tried to help the people I met as much as possible, until at a moment I finally decided I as ready enough to go to the top of the mountain, it was even rather easy as I had helped so much people in my great adventure, that all had a different reason of being.
When I finaly decided to go to the top and arrived, I was so happy of everything I had lived in all this time, telling myself that wow time flied as I had already finished downloading csgo in the background, and wanted to stay on the game still. The game made what happened at the top. And I got this feeling
"Now what". I actually didn't want to leave, everything was so great there. So I flied around the game, trying to search for new people, new feathers. Slowly for every thing I did and everything becoming harder and harder to find. The happy world was actually going away slowly and slowly and I didn't want to let go of it. Hell I was almost accepting to do the fishing just to stay more xD! I even thought about speedrunning the game to have an excuse to come back before tellnig me it was going to ruin the experience.
And then I remembered I had to tell my aunt (in the game) all that happened, I went to it, told her everything, and saw there was my small room there. I decided to run to it to see if there was something like an easter egg or something funny:
I clicked on the door
"Do you want to go to sleep?"
Yes!
*Black screen for 5 seconds... And then main menu*
I was devastated, I had actually accidentally quited this wonderful small beautiful world by accident.
And I knew I shouldn't click back on play or on continue, because. It's over, it's done that's all, I had lived a great long adventure with a ton of friends!
I closed the game.
It had only been 2 hours and 5 minutes
It stayed downloaded on my pc for two week because I couldn't stand the idea of erasing this little world.
And I kinda miss those little two hours
I like the positive sentiment of this video. Both nostalgia and regret can be anchors, constraining us in place. To stay happy and fulfilled, we have to be willing to cut ourselves free.
who needs a psychiatrist when you have 2kliksphilip
I find regularly if I have time to play games I get a bit “gaming apathy”. Like I can imagine playing a given game and go “nah”. But then I do that for about 30mins and don’t end up playing anything.
But then the opposite is true too. I got hooked to shadow of war so much I had to uninstall it.
My greatest issue is getting bored of game or starting another game before I'm ready to move on. I love playing 7 Days to Die, but I know when I start playing it, I lose interest in the game I was playing right before that. I wanted to get all the acheivements in Skyrim, but I had beat the game and there was little challenge after upgrading my gear, so it felt harder to finish the other questlines for the achievements. Just recently, I wanted to make an awesome city in Cities Skylines. I played quite a bit of it, unlocked all the things in my city and nothing was stopping me from continuing to expand. But I got fustrated with my earlier mistakes and constant traffic problems and haven't felt like playing it. I want to keep going, but I can't feel the motivitation to do so. I know one day, I'll play it again, but I'll probably start fresh.
*sigh Right now marks a turning point in my life. I'm basically friendless. All the connections from high school withered away to nothing. 4 years of the best times of my life. Over. All i have to look forward to is work in a job i don't like. I think that philip is in a unique position, as not only he has gone through the golden age of gaming (games that you could make friends in), these relationships are only lost because of a lost interest. I don't think i will have much luck finding adult friends. I'm settling in for 2022 to be more of the same. I'll recomment on this at the end of 2022 if anything changes.
I need to learn from this some day.
Today is not that day.
Way better than covid videos
woah, what a great follow up video!!!
Well, Philip, I have been following you for years because of your often retrospective content resonating with me and providing me with the best parasocial relationship I could ask for; The fact that the previous video sent everyone into depression just proves that you've still got what it takes to satisfy long-time viewers.
Anyone grow up with Minecraft and you actually spent like 10000s of hours playing it? (Factions, singleplayer, PVP, prison break, parkour, puzzle maps, modded etc etc.)
Amazing video!
What's the background music? Sounds like something that was on original UT
Deus Ex music in the background 🤍
i cant get new games for 6 months after the previous, so when i finish something like teardown, well i blow stuf f up for about 5. it sucks to me, but i did get a new game like a month ago called stormworks that keeps bringing me back.
unatco theme coming in strong
I don't even know how to express how much these two videos have made me think. Thanks for this, Philip. Really.
more games on steam need workshop pages, that shit keeps ur game alive (sometimes)
thanks, needed this
I have played atleast 3k hours of source xD
I just think that people have become used to being overstimulated. They need a constant barrage of information just to stop themselves from yawning. It's reached a point where the things that got them to that level don't do it anymore and they keep chasing a stronger high that never comes.
Back in the day i only had the demo version of the first episode of the OG doom. I remember religiously playing that for hours on end every day. Dying and starting from the complete start either cuz it had no save feature cuz of it being a demo or cuz I was too bad at English to do it. Older games were grindy frustrating messes but we stuck with them cuz we had nothing else to stimulate us and we won't be able to convince our parents to buy us a new game in the foreseeable future.
i found nothing but enjoyment in the previous video!
-burger40
Damn human psychology!!!!!
aha, despite the positive message underneath, the video felt even gloomier than the first one, IMO.
But yeah, I definitely feel what you say. Some games did outstay their welcome with me, and I only realized it later on, after I went through the cycle several times.
I guess the only solution is experience and not being lazy :)
Really depending on the game tbh. I have 250 hours in new vegas and its very likely ill start a new playthrough again. But i have only played metro for around 30-40 hours per game though id say i love both equally as much.