Clan War! With a Twist.

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  • Опубликовано: 17 янв 2025
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  • @chuck6458
    @chuck6458 Год назад +33

    Imagine a situation in war where you are told "We need to lose!". It makes perfect Wgaming sense.

    • @KOS762
      @KOS762 Год назад +2

      Only War Gaming would come up with something that stupid and say everything is ok.

    • @chris.moonmantis9459
      @chris.moonmantis9459 Год назад +1

      It is called spoiling attacks, setting up purposefully weak defences, or fielding less to draw, and keeping forces of the enemy away from the main force and push, by drawing them in having them set up then either attacking them from the flank or even completely somewhere else. It actually happens more often than you would think. Losing a battle doesn't mean you lose the war. Its strategy, especially when there is a numerical or mechanical advantage to the enemy.

    • @chuck6458
      @chuck6458 Год назад +1

      @@chris.moonmantis9459 I see what you are saying, just does not really feel the same as deploying perfectly good tanks only to be blown up and several body bags to fill. Really the only way to win a war is to not fight in the first place.

  • @TandemSix
    @TandemSix Год назад +16

    It is clear to me that the K-A-P clan team is a team of gentlemen that value sportsmanship and valour. I think they've said something like "Sir, it would be a most shameful victory if we tower over these brave 10 fighters" and the commander said "You are right, it would be a total lack of sportsmanship and fair play. The only honorable thing to do is to give up"

    • @davidzarecky4078
      @davidzarecky4078 Год назад +5

      Or maybe it's some overengineered Japanese samurai doctrine which says that if you encounter a weaker enemy that shows enough bravery and honor, you have to kneel before them and let them behead you because they've effectively put you to shame and you've lost your face.

    • @TandemSix
      @TandemSix Год назад +1

      @@davidzarecky4078 or this, but I doubt that K-A-P clan is a samurai clan

  • @Willster419
    @Willster419 Год назад +48

    It's likely that if they won, they would have had 2 or 3 matches scheduled at the same time and didn't have enough players to field them. This is a common occurrence in clan wars.

    • @MrVlax22
      @MrVlax22 Год назад +1

      True.

    • @mattdundas2598
      @mattdundas2598 Год назад +3

      This is the correct answer. I've experienced it myself several times. I remember we had a game that we needed to lose, but we wanted some fame points, so we loaded in with deathstars and FVs, and we were actually winning somehow, so we all had to stop shooting at one point to give up the game.

    • @AlexJacksonSmith
      @AlexJacksonSmith Год назад +3

      Oh then the game is stupid and war gaming are stupid... still good that someone knows about these things to explain to us. Thanks.

    • @wolverine343534
      @wolverine343534 Год назад +4

      So Clan Wars is set up so that only the big clans can progress!? That has to be the dumbest clan battle setup ever! What is the point of competing at all? Maybe I am just not understanding, cause my idea of any clan war mode, in any game, is to win all battles. I think WG has to change how clan wars is organised, and kick out any clan that doesn’t play to win. Just seems really dumb to me.

    • @mattdundas2598
      @mattdundas2598 Год назад

      @@wolverine343534 not exactly, because each player earns individual points. The idea is to not fight on so many fronts as you have players to fight. But sometimes you win on every front and have more games than you have active players, and you do not want to take a technical loss, so you have to play with the idea of losing quickly. It's hedging your bets, because you need to fight on as many fronts as you can to maximize your chance at gaining points and land, but sometimes because of time, you need to drop a battle here and there, it's better than no showing and getting a technical loss.
      A clan of 15 players can earn the reward tanks if they play and win.

  • @chrissummers2689
    @chrissummers2689 Год назад +38

    Its about fame points and continuations. If you cannot load a team with 12 players, you are hit with a technical loss. Your clan then loses fame points and could be hit with a penalties. To avoid have too many matches scheduled that a clan cannot support, they will throw a match to avoid having a continuation match scheduled at the same time as a previously scheduled match. Clans that can field more than one team don't have this problem, but some clans can't support two teams. It's part of the WOT system for clan wars; you are penalized if you have a shorthanded clan.

    • @thecellulontriptometer4166
      @thecellulontriptometer4166 Год назад +2

      Yup, that's the deal. They throw the game so that they were not double booked in the next round. Happened to me a few times last clan war.

    • @schwebor
      @schwebor Год назад

      And a draw, wich also counts as aloss for both teams is actually worse then a loss

    • @chris.moonmantis9459
      @chris.moonmantis9459 Год назад

      and killing all but 2 means they get the kills to keep their bonds and materials for the battle. Need at least 5 kills to get those materials. More important in Tank CW then Gold season...

    • @stylerod
      @stylerod Год назад

      This is the reason. We have to do it sometimes. It's just the way WG has it set up.

  • @natick4
    @natick4 Год назад +1

    When Convoy came out, McD’s had a tray insert with CB radio explanations.
    Sure wish I kept mine.
    Great 70s movie.

  • @kylemaki6510
    @kylemaki6510 Год назад +13

    Where’s Yuri when you need him ?

  • @chogan1317
    @chogan1317 Год назад +1

    Yeah, I heard this happens often. I saw a replay once, where both teams tried to loose on himmelsdorf. It was really fun to watch. They all went for the hill, tracking and blocking the enemy team, trying to throw themselves off the cliff.

    • @sneakyfildy
      @sneakyfildy Год назад

      I'd like to see that, it should be hilarious

    • @chogan1317
      @chogan1317 Год назад

      @@sneakyfildy it was, but i deleted it because it was an old minecraft version. somewhat regretting it now tbh. :-D

    • @chogan1317
      @chogan1317 Год назад

      erm old wot version. no idea why i wrote minecraft. :-D

  • @KevinDedi
    @KevinDedi Год назад +16

    My clan does this when we "have to lose" - we get our 5 kills and then stop because no need or no benefit to win the battle. Happens pretty often.

  • @jamessadler5073
    @jamessadler5073 Год назад

    That's Mad.
    Thanks Claus

  • @otakarkuby3926
    @otakarkuby3926 Год назад +10

    Like watching a great movie that just fizzles out at end, what an anti climatic way to win.

  • @oroville12345
    @oroville12345 Год назад +2

    I keep getting screen not hit.😢 what's that mean 🤔 with my grill 15

    • @harbringerf9416
      @harbringerf9416 Год назад +1

      You haven't interrupted the football match on the flat screen TV.

    • @oroville12345
      @oroville12345 Год назад

      ​@@harbringerf9416 I don't watch TV

    • @harbringerf9416
      @harbringerf9416 Год назад +1

      @@oroville12345 But apparently your Grille 15 crew do :)

    • @oroville12345
      @oroville12345 Год назад

      @@harbringerf9416 hahaha 😆 😂

  • @schwebor
    @schwebor Год назад +19

    😂 lol claus... i sent you a better example once. A beattle where my clan needed a loss, and the enemy aswell... after winning the rush they just left the battle. In my maus i pushed an 277 into my own cap and gifted them a victory ❤

    • @stojanmilosevic7777
      @stojanmilosevic7777 Год назад +2

      now that is funny

    • @schwebor
      @schwebor Год назад +3

      @stojanmilosevic7777 they didnt think so.. we did 😀

    • @OriginalYonta
      @OriginalYonta Год назад +1

      omg how is that fun apart from being very funny

    • @rickbaker8021
      @rickbaker8021 Год назад

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @666Wizardsleeve
    @666Wizardsleeve Год назад +4

    Claus counted 10 friendly tanks a number of times. He’s excellent at mathematics but not so great at counting!😅

  • @Theorica
    @Theorica Год назад

    In clam wars, stuff like this is common. Clans will play the 'meta' game (wheel and deal with one another) and decide what parts of the map will go to whom. Sometimes this means that you need to lose some battles. Which at times, confuses a clan to no end when this happens as they aren't in on the deals being made.
    It's been like this since the beginning. Nothing strange here. The 'meta game' is part of clan wars.

  • @KingRat71
    @KingRat71 Год назад +2

    My suspicion…… they fought to a certain point to earn materials, scrap etc. But they either want to tank their ELO with a loss. Or they cannot afford to win as they wont have enough players for the next round and dont want to take a TECH for not fielding a team for one or more battles.

  • @Denja187
    @Denja187 Год назад +1

    its common thing in clan wars cos if they won the battle next they will have 2 battles at the same time... one to play but for not showing on the other one the clan get penalty so they just lost and end the possability for having 2 battles at the same time... ( if the map has water they just go and drown them self but here no wather :) )

  • @mmanisse
    @mmanisse Год назад +1

    They have another battle after..

  • @belronq
    @belronq Год назад +1

    I have played alot of Clan Wars and it is mostly scammed and planned by the big clans. I was in the old event where the M60 was the prize and every match we did was preplanned, the event winners were planned ahead of time. All the big clans knew who would win each stage of the event.

  • @KOS762
    @KOS762 Год назад

    The enemy team might have had another battle and would have had a double battle, and if they don't field a team, they get a penalty. That penalty is to lose a ticket for a drop. In other words, They start off with 4 places on the global map they can try to win. If the tech a battle, which is why they would throw a game, they would lose a drop, putting them to only 3 per day, and it takes 7 days to recover. So to lose 1 battle to save the penalty, would allow them to drop 5 extra times per week, making a total of 20 drops, or "battles". With the penalty it would only be 15, for the week. 3 penalties and you don't get to play clan wars for a week.

  • @skh515
    @skh515 Год назад +2

    There are a lot of secondary strategies going on in Global Battles. You can screw over another clan by losing to them. These guys got as much damage as they could and as many kills as they could before falling back. You need those things for fame points and materials. Just delaying the outcome can cause the other team to miss a battle and take a penalty. I prefer playing the battles straight up. But I know of many clans that are looking to screw-over other teams any chance they get.

    • @xxx_madman_xxx5868
      @xxx_madman_xxx5868 Год назад +2

      to true man, I was part of a smaller clan one team but we always fought it out and never threw a match

    • @stylerod
      @stylerod Год назад

      More often it's because, if you win, you will have a simultaneous battles scheduled. If you can't field two teams at the same time then taking a technical defeat is worse for your points then losing a game on purpose.

  • @Pens_-ji1sl
    @Pens_-ji1sl Год назад

    If its for clan wars with reward tanks, you need 5 kills to get your points. Looks like they had another battle and didn't want a second or third battle at that time frame. They drove back to base so their enemy couldn't push their tanks on cap. It happens. Its clan wars .

  • @mathieulapointe1207
    @mathieulapointe1207 Год назад

    That was so weird...😮

  • @gregh8720
    @gregh8720 Год назад

    Happens all the time.

  • @elgringodecuba
    @elgringodecuba Год назад

    Mama just called them for the "soupe" !!!

  • @xvszoboszlai
    @xvszoboszlai Год назад

    The next tank-owning clan event is coming and everyone wants to spoil their battle status in order to beat smaller clans at the beginning.

  • @henkgeenreetaan1374
    @henkgeenreetaan1374 Год назад +1

    12 vs 15 not 15 vs 10 and the clan with 15 tanks had to go play next battle but not have the players to fight two battles same time after this one. so they loose on purpuse and they don't get a penalty for not showing in the battle after this one. Happens when you win to much.

  • @kevynbrownell719
    @kevynbrownell719 Год назад

    Boosters?

  • @92Koondog92
    @92Koondog92 Год назад +1

    12. There were 12 players v 15. Not 10. I love Claus's mathetizing!

  • @Scarletsb0y
    @Scarletsb0y Год назад +4

    No Claus this could be a game that has aresdy been pre planned, I did a lot of clan wars and deals where always made between clans. They defending team has to turn up or automataclly lose the land, so in some games teams will go in cause damage so it does not show to wargaming but not kill all the of the tanks and let the timer go down or just move and not defend or cover. This is what this game looks like they could have easy killed them all but the move away. its easy mid game to work out how many tanks the other team has on small maps. so this is not a real battle

  • @treadheadpete4770
    @treadheadpete4770 Год назад

    GRC infects clanwars?

  • @kiff4free554
    @kiff4free554 Год назад

    They had another clan war that their commander called more important to fight so they left that battle

  • @kevinmcdonald6446
    @kevinmcdonald6446 Год назад +3

    "SOMETIMES pub games are shit shows...?"

    • @jgold2813
      @jgold2813 Год назад +2

      ? sometimes pup games are shit shows REALLY sometimes air is what we breath !

  • @scottsluggosrule4670
    @scottsluggosrule4670 Год назад

    If they are a high ranked clan they are trying to lower their rank to prep for next cw season so they can seal club at beginning of the next season. MM will give them easier matches. Or they had another more important match to get to and not enough players. They stacked tanks to hopefully reduce damage other team would get.

  • @victorduffy4459
    @victorduffy4459 Год назад

    More clan wars videos please.

  • @fankybollox404
    @fankybollox404 Год назад +1

    They had another battle and they didn't want to take a ban not showing at the battle. And Claus they are 12 not 10. The minimum number pf participants in a clan war batlle is 12.

  • @David-pn5nj
    @David-pn5nj Год назад

    At the end of CWs season some big clans (and many others) uses to lose games to get down the ELO, this way they will face easier first matches at next CW campaing. This is a real issue Claus. I guess the only one way to avoid this is to reset ELO rating at the beginning of every CW and to increase winning / losing points on wins and loses. Believe me, this is a real problem in CWs.

  • @markelathotee
    @markelathotee Год назад

    Lol Klaus, can't even count to 12? :D I love your videos but here I had a good laugh, thx! :D

  • @darby5987
    @darby5987 Год назад

    Are the two clans involved in an alliance and are strategically reshaping their borders by trading map positions on the world map?
    For the players who have never played in clan wars, think of it as late game Civilization VI with tanks only. Having alliances and making pacts with allied clans describing how to attack the map and how to surround and isolate enemy clans is the fun part of being a clan commander or combat officer - getting together outside the actual game and planning a war campaign so the alliance can control as large an area as possible of the world map. Your clan earns gold every day that it controls a map area. Maps area in the interior, which are hard to reach let alone win, give the highest daily gold rewards. Gold farming is the name of the game. Reshaping the alliance map and positioning against specific enemy clans could be the strategy here. However, if that is the case is was very costly. In clan wars when you lose a tank during battle it will be unavailable for a number of real world hours, up to a week, before it is unlocked again for clan wars.
    Or, maybe the allied clan threw the match because GIMPS had a simultaneous battle scheduled, didn't have at least 24 players and threw a full team into the other match. If the won both the schedule would likely firm up so they could put a full team out for the other two battles that night.

  • @rinkashi101
    @rinkashi101 Год назад

    This was an example of:
    "We need to lose this game, but make sure to kill 6 of them"

    • @sorinancuta3934
      @sorinancuta3934 Год назад

      Because u need to have at least 5kills;)that.s why there r agreement between clans of 5 kills;)

  • @sefribu4159
    @sefribu4159 Год назад

    In fact even if the channel is like a box of chocolates... you damn well know what you gonna get: FUCKING CHOCOLATE! ;)

  • @MrIslamYoussef
    @MrIslamYoussef Год назад

    they are either trying to avoid being double or triple-booked if they win this battle and if they don't have enough players to fill those teams they will have a penalty, or they are trying to drop their ELO since this is gold clan wars and they want to be able to fight the weaker teams and get more points in the next CW season, they need to make it look though as if they are not throwing the game since that will get them banned

  • @alex.mielus
    @alex.mielus Год назад +1

    If they wanted to lose they could've just stayed where they were, in the brawl, and just rise their pp up like a surrender. That's not what happened.

  • @christopherholladay918
    @christopherholladay918 Год назад +2

    There is pay to win now it's pay to lose yay😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @davemc8289
    @davemc8289 Год назад

  • @superdrinkerb6432
    @superdrinkerb6432 Год назад

    If they have an already scheduled battle will risq a penalty

  • @Howto-sb7sx
    @Howto-sb7sx Год назад

    Clan war chipping works as intended with clans purposely losing several games per night

  • @richardtrude7562
    @richardtrude7562 Год назад

    You're showing you age Claus. The intro was Convoy by CW Mcall from 1976.😊

  • @riff2072
    @riff2072 Год назад

    I shall explain this. It is called a 'Russian Win'. Where you stop playing and lose to get the win. Like that Russian Math. Cluas re-title this Russian Win

  • @jollybee5220
    @jollybee5220 Год назад +2

    Man I was so proud because I thought they did a Zhang Liang on the enemy. Only to be disappointed since the enemies are just being weird

  • @stephenbennett9427
    @stephenbennett9427 Год назад

    Happy algorithm comment

  • @l.marleen987
    @l.marleen987 Год назад

    Standard equipment, standard shells, these kind of tanks? What kind of clan wars is that? Do they not know that you have to only feature Chiefs and 279e firing only gold?

  • @CrOOpSS
    @CrOOpSS Год назад

    I think the team who was in low count buy a territory))) for real transfer I heard about that kind of deals!!!

  • @kevinhanssen1592
    @kevinhanssen1592 Год назад

    Don't want a red card

  • @Trillock-hy1cf
    @Trillock-hy1cf Год назад

    How weird, but not unusual of Claus's channel.....

  • @ammarfv6366
    @ammarfv6366 Год назад

    Clans do this all the time they intentionally lose for reasons

  • @divisiona3974
    @divisiona3974 Год назад

    Looks like malfunctioning bots...

  • @jgold2813
    @jgold2813 Год назад +1

    ? sometimes pup games are shit shows REALLY sometimes air is what we breath !

  • @Willster419
    @Willster419 Год назад

    Nice

  • @mikeglenn2490
    @mikeglenn2490 Год назад

    maybe ran out of ammo

  • @tomklein505
    @tomklein505 Год назад +1

    Sometimes you gotta throw a game to avoid getting a technical penalty during clan wars. Too many techs and you lose the chance to play battles, so you lose on purpose.

  • @MADMAXMALONE1
    @MADMAXMALONE1 Год назад +2

    They are throwing the match to lower their clans ELO for the next clan wars for a tank.

  • @RafterMan2086
    @RafterMan2086 Год назад

    Option 3: Gaym was agreed/rigged!!!

  • @peytonhenny4814
    @peytonhenny4814 Год назад

    They can't win without taking a penalty because they can't field enough teams

  • @davidbialik1878
    @davidbialik1878 Год назад

    There is a very well known NA clan that is right now purposefully losing clan battles to lower their ELO from 1200 to around 800. Doing that means they can absolutely stomp on lower elo clans next CW's season.
    Really disgusting but WG don't care.

  • @ronporter610
    @ronporter610 Год назад

    "unkilled"....LOL

  • @THEFORBIDDENMAN-lk7of
    @THEFORBIDDENMAN-lk7of Год назад

    LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER FIXED GAME - IT WAS GOOD GOING AT THE START KLAUS WHAT A CRAP ENDING

  • @clintonturner5545
    @clintonturner5545 Год назад

    Maybe it was a team of Jehovah Witnesses. They found out that they were sinning.

  • @torkalpha3312
    @torkalpha3312 Год назад +1

    they want to loose cause they don't want to have more lines up cause they don't have enough players and they don't want to get a penalty

  • @dimwit7474
    @dimwit7474 Год назад +1

    ... A very short conversation with BingChat coulda saved Claus from this humiliating embarrassment. Instead, his Confirmation Bias is again on full display, AND he has AGAIN wrongly accused innocent parties of cheating. STOP IT, @Claus!!!

  • @sayerrobin
    @sayerrobin Год назад

    🙃

  • @jamesdavies630
    @jamesdavies630 Год назад +1

    This video shows that Claus can't count.

  • @santr81
    @santr81 Год назад +1

    When i was playing this useless manipulated game i was part of a clan and did clan wars. Many times the order was to throw the game away to get players into the next one.

  • @trfatman
    @trfatman Год назад +1

    I gotta say, Claus, you don't look old enough to be making the cultural and artistic historical references that you do from time to time! Rubber Duck?? My Dad was a radio engineer so we had a CB even before the song and movie came out. I'm sure most people today have no clue what you were doing when you "air-mic'd". LOL!

  • @LowryYT
    @LowryYT Год назад

    possibly trolling or a friend clan doing a little goof?

  • @kurtthompson5517
    @kurtthompson5517 Год назад

    Must be an old game as in clan wars now you cannot enter battle with less than 12 tanks. Also if you schedule to many battles and a new one is about to pop you need to lose the current battle or take a penalty if you do not have enough people to fill two battles. These guys left the battle to go to another and not take a penalty.

  • @stephendverner
    @stephendverner Год назад

    Strategic losing, I understand why but still…

  • @AzulinhoAzulinho
    @AzulinhoAzulinho Год назад

    Awrite Claus!

  • @dimwit7474
    @dimwit7474 Год назад +1

    ... I've said it many times ... "Klans iz gonna Klan"

    • @dimwit7474
      @dimwit7474 Год назад

      ... ... the PROBLEM with "Klanz Klannin'" is that they don't Klan ONLY in KlanWarz, they Klan in Random Battles. Hey ... day jus' "Klawnin' around".

  • @Azmodan3000
    @Azmodan3000 Год назад

    They had to lose the game, I ve seen a lot of this shit. They only left 2 tanks alive so that they can kill them, easy as that.

  • @2tone209
    @2tone209 Год назад

    AY UP CLAUS

  • @michailleventopoulos2583
    @michailleventopoulos2583 Год назад +1

    WHAT IS THIS??? REALLY? RIGGED BATTLES IN CLAN WARS? OMG!

    • @dogf1ghter
      @dogf1ghter Год назад +2

      No the reasons are listed above in comments its a strategy to throw because of how clan battles work

  • @Inos74
    @Inos74 Год назад

    option 3 ... rigged

  • @Ivanostefanelli.
    @Ivanostefanelli. Год назад

    Another rigged game is clear...
    In essence, moral and definitive conclusion in 5 points:
    1) The WG decides how the players they choose should behave
    2) The WG decides who should be the winning Clans
    3) The WG creates Clan with the best players chosen
    4) The WG consequently condemns the other Clans to lose
    5) The WC...
    5 bis) The WG decides everything
    5 Ter) The WG is the WG and I am not a dick!

  • @denniskarlsson7121
    @denniskarlsson7121 Год назад

    Klaus, You have no idea how CW works do you? They are intentionally throwing because they don't actually want to win the battle. It's because of how WG designed the system, if they don't attend the battle the whole clan gets penalised.

  • @crusoone3305
    @crusoone3305 Год назад

    count 3 times ten instead of twelf ? c mon

  • @leopard2A8
    @leopard2A8 Год назад

    can you do a raffle

  • @ngrey5092
    @ngrey5092 Год назад

    12

  • @MrLolis1337
    @MrLolis1337 Год назад

    12 FFS, counts obvious full 15 member team, but dont otherone and even people in coments says 10 WOW :D

  • @vanvan-oc4nj
    @vanvan-oc4nj Год назад

    WEhatever.....anyway a cheat--show---.....

  • @rabioso0001
    @rabioso0001 Год назад

    They had to lose, this is typical CW strategy planning. You don't want to win all your battles... Nothing fishy here

  • @OriginalYonta
    @OriginalYonta Год назад

    is it me or was this loades of bad choices for "pros" apart from extra game functions.

  • @krysstar350
    @krysstar350 Год назад

    Its amusing to watch someone who has no idea about clan wars or clan war mechanics and dude makes a whole youtube video to create drama. Alone from that one round there are two possible, reasonable, and legal reasons(YES its amazing you can us all of those 3 adjectives isnt it?) why a clan was purposely loosing a matchup. I wont explain any of the reasons because Claus most probably knows exactly why clans are doing it (If not may god have mercy on his viewers). And if he doesnt know he could easily ask. Its not uncommon and there more than one legit reasons. And DUDE is it ridiculous him making connections to the 11k banned accounts that were using illegal software. What a trash entertainment.

  • @harrystroe8400
    @harrystroe8400 Год назад

    Interesting but also a small detail into this, they retreat with 2 tanks left on the enemy side, which means mostly likely KAP clan would already know they GMPS clan is down to -5 tanks, so If you do the math correctly, if GMPS would had all 15 tanks, the overall counting at the moment of retreat would be on GMPS advantage, so KAP clan admit the defeat in a very unusual way.
    Or, we will never know the reason. Just my two cents on it.

  • @americanpatriot4227
    @americanpatriot4227 Год назад

    Idiot can get his clan busted for this. Shouldnt have posted it. Its common enough, but can get the clan in trouble.

  • @1989Falkor
    @1989Falkor Год назад

    LMAO

  • @mammoth505
    @mammoth505 Год назад

    Yep, happens all the time. It’s a map where you can’t kill yourself in a lake or something so you have to wait to be killed to make it to the next battle on time.

  • @4thHorseman
    @4thHorseman Год назад

    Another rigged game.

  • @njc964
    @njc964 Год назад

    Claus can’t count

  • @lufiasila
    @lufiasila Год назад

    They are cheaters

    • @jonathaniel6614
      @jonathaniel6614 Год назад +2

      Then every clan that does clan wars are cheaters then

  • @kkmik5933
    @kkmik5933 Год назад

    Clan wars suck