Idk if this is a rerelease of a previous video, however, I would say well done. The .222 does not get the credit it deserves as it is shadowed by the .223 Remington. Taking into many factors, Marksmanship, Rest, ambient conditions while shooting, trigger, barrel quality, overall fitting of the rifle and stock fit, I would say the sierra 52's shot very well, in fact better than one would expect. I would be willing to say out of a machine rest it would be a one hole cluster eliminating any movement of the rifle. Great Video. -Dave
Yes, this is another re-upload, I'm slowly getting my older content back on YT in monetized form. The Baikal has potential but the biggest hurdle to top level accuracy with it is the very heavy trigger, and I'm a shooter used to surplus guns so believe me when I say the trigger is heavy, it is heavy!
It STILL receives the credit it deserves for it held benchrest titles UNTILL the .223 came around. ANY caliber that makes military service has historically became popular amongst shooters and commonly becomes parent cartridges for "wildcats".
@@314299 : there is the same problem on the Mosin-Nagant 91-30. But it is not irreversible. A trigger can be upgraded so it no longer looks like a reinforced concrete trigger.
I just love the look of that rifle. I saw something like that 25+ years ago that was a .30-06/12gge. over under rifle-shotgun combo. I think they said it was either from Russia or Turkey. Wish I grabbed it when I had the chance!
Me too, I do like a single shot rifle like this Baikal. I did try to buy a combination rifle/shotgun from Baikal a few months ago, and the person at Baikal Canada informed me that unfortunately due to the current political circumstances between Canada and Russia, there is an embargo on importing Russian made firearms from there until this is 'settled',... What a shame! I do like the accuracy I get with my bolt action rifle in .222 , with Sellier & Bellot ammunition, I wonder how it would perform with this PPU ammo. I would be totally satisfied with the accuracy of your hand loaded cartridges,...nothing wrong with those for sure!
Yes it's regretable that events led to a halt in the importation of these rugged and simple firearms. They do pop up on the used market so that is a possibility.
@@sfabinjo461 The 222 is not a lot louder than 22 WMR. The 223 Remington is a bit louder than the 222. Neither round has much recoil, certainly not enough to be concerned with.
Sorry I can’t find the actual video but I have a question for you! You posted a video of your shooting a Remington 700 in .223 I believe and you used a cast bullet with high tek coating. You were able to achieve very fast velocity while still maintaining accuracy, did you use a hard alloy and quench? I’m trying with high tek but my bullets are losing accuracy after 1300ish FPS
I think this must be the video you are talking about: ruclips.net/video/l-Wj8-Dh2OQ/видео.html I did not make those bullets, they were sent to me by a friend of the channel, Russell Houghton, you might want to check out his video's to see if he spells out what alloy and heat treat he used, you can find his channel here: ruclips.net/channel/UCptENlJddCdcGG8Hy6hWxlw
Barely hunting accuracy...but I'm going to try a box in my Sako L461 and see how they perform....would accept those groups at 200 yards but not at 100....
No, I have not seen that stuff. We used to have a Cabela's within an hour and a half drive from where I live but it was closed since they merged with Bass Pro. So now the closest location is about four hours away, so basically I don't have easy access to their stores except by mail order.
I accidentally bought some 222 Remington ammo thinking it was 223 Remington. It’s a good thing I noticed the difference before I tried to load it in my AR 🤦🏻♂️. Need to pay attention more closely when I’m buying ammo.
If you had tried firing it it probably would have been a "non event" - either it would chamber too deeply to go off or if it did fire the shoulder would blow forward and you would end up with empty brass with really short necks. I doubt any of the cases would have failed on you.
No. The .222 Remington actually predates the .223 Remington/5.56x45 and was introduced to the market in 1950 whereas the .223/5.56 dates from 1957. Having said that there apparently were countries that forbid "military" calibers like .223/5.56x45 but allowed the same rifles when chambered in the "non-military" .222 Remington.
NO. The Remington .222 IS the parent cartridge to the .223. The .222 Magnum was in the running for militarization but the .223 case configuration gave the specifications dictated by the requirements.
Try loading it up with 55 grains bullets on top of 3 grains of Trail Boss... And a can on the muzzle.. Now THAT is fun..!! Only thing you hear is the firing-pin spring, and the whack when the bullet hits the target... 👍
222 and 223 look virtually identical, and share practically the same ballistics (think 308 vs 7.62 Russian). Anyways, what would happen if you shoot a 222 in a 223/556 gun?
Yes, the 222 and 223 are very close in performance, the 223 being able to handle heavier bullets due to most rifles having a faster twist than the 222 rifles have. I'm sure you know that both rounds headspace off the shoulder, and with the 222 shoulder being much further back than the one on a 223 there would be a massive amount of excessive headspace if the wrong round were fired. There would be a very good possibility of a case head separation on firing. Much would depend on the guns action and it's extractor set up. If the round were shoved quite far into the chamber, such as on a push feed action,the firing pin might not set it off. A controlled feed action would most likely hold the round against the breach face so it could be set off and then the forward part of the case would blow out, fire forming to the 223 chamber. Being as these are common rounds I'm sure this has happened on a somewhat frequent basis.
@@314299 Definitely not a Good idea, but it doesn't seem to be catastrophic… at least to the shooter. Definitely won't try it anyway. Obviously 223 won't fit on a 222 chamber because it's slightly longer and the neck is slightly shorter. Had 223 never existed, I've no doubt Stoner would've used the 222 for his AR15 rifle. 5.56X43 NATO in an alternate universe chambered in 55 and 62 gr.
@@DNchap1417 I mixed up them up once in 2008 and nothing happen.At the time I had just gotten two mini 14's chambered in a 222 and .223.So I didnt notice my mistake.Someone it out.
Not bad, nice video. $5 for a box of centerfire ammo is GREAT. I'M MAD AT MYSELF, I had a rifle like what you have but was a little nicer with a nickel plated receiver, had Remington name on it in 243 Winchester. 😲😳😵💫😩😢 It was built like a TANK and actually a NICE LOOKING RIFLE.🤨
Remington did import the Baikal line of firearms, branding them "Remington Spartan". It's astonishing how much these sell for now that they are no longer imported, the used ones I've seen listed are two times the price they cost when new.
@@314299 YES, I was a FOOL to let MINE go especially for cheap. It was a BEAUTIFUL RIFLE with the nickel plated receiver and BEAUTIFUL walnut furniture, it was in a GREAT CARTRIDGE as well 243. It would have been a GREAT FIRST RIFLE for a youngster, lady or someone who wanted a RELIABLE, WELL MADE, LIGHT RECOILING, comes apart for EASY transportation, STORAGE and INEXPENSIVE AMMO that can be found anywhere 😄 when compared to other calibers. 🤨😱😳😵💫😩😡🤬😢 Another mistake of selling something at the WRONG TIME.🤔😖😮💨
The "Remington SPR 18" branded version was sold in the USA. My rifle is an original Baikal IZH-18MH. I live in Canada where Baikal were sold from the 1970's until recently.
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great video i love those Baikal single shot they are nice and look fun to shoot
I should have picked up a few of these in other calibers when they were still on the market here.
@@314299 And with which caliber are you most satisfy?
I heard that in 308 its not very accurate...
Idk if this is a rerelease of a previous video, however, I would say well done. The .222 does not get the credit it deserves as it is shadowed by the .223 Remington. Taking into many factors, Marksmanship, Rest, ambient conditions while shooting, trigger, barrel quality, overall fitting of the rifle and stock fit, I would say the sierra 52's shot very well, in fact better than one would expect. I would be willing to say out of a machine rest it would be a one hole cluster eliminating any movement of the rifle. Great Video. -Dave
Yes, this is another re-upload, I'm slowly getting my older content back on YT in monetized form. The Baikal has potential but the biggest hurdle to top level accuracy with it is the very heavy trigger, and I'm a shooter used to surplus guns so believe me when I say the trigger is heavy, it is heavy!
It STILL receives the credit it deserves for it held benchrest titles UNTILL the .223 came around. ANY caliber that makes military service has historically became popular amongst shooters and commonly becomes parent cartridges for "wildcats".
@@carfvallrightsreservedwith6649 .222 was knocked off its benchrest pedestal with the advent of the 6ppc..
@@314299 : there is the same problem on the Mosin-Nagant 91-30. But it is not irreversible. A trigger can be upgraded so it no longer looks like a reinforced concrete trigger.
J’ai la même baikal un régal après un rodage de début de détente 😊
I just love the look of that rifle. I saw something like that 25+ years ago that was a .30-06/12gge. over under rifle-shotgun combo. I think they said it was either from Russia or Turkey. Wish I grabbed it when I had the chance!
Baikal also makes rifle/shotgun combo's so there is a good chance that what you saw was one of those.
Looks like a nice little gun. I’d be interested to know how it shoots with a higher powered scope and a decent back rest and a still day.
The big hindrance to accuracy with these rifles is the extremely heavy trigger pull.
Me too, I do like a single shot rifle like this Baikal. I did try to buy a combination rifle/shotgun from Baikal a few months ago, and the person at Baikal Canada informed me that unfortunately due to
the current political circumstances between Canada and Russia, there is an embargo on importing Russian made firearms from there until this is 'settled',...
What a shame!
I do like the accuracy I get with my bolt action rifle in .222 , with Sellier & Bellot ammunition, I wonder how it would perform with this PPU ammo. I would be totally satisfied with the
accuracy of your hand loaded cartridges,...nothing wrong with those for sure!
Yes it's regretable that events led to a halt in the importation of these rugged and simple firearms. They do pop up on the used market so that is a possibility.
@@314299 I'm always looking for one.
The BEST amnunitions for 222 Baikal are the WRS
What other brands have you tried other than RWS?
Best factory ammo I've shot was Hornady 50 V Max. 1/4", to 3/8" out of my 722.
I'm not surprised as Hornady makes good ammo/bullets.
.222 and .223 are pretty similar?
.222 has a shorter body and longer neck. Otherwise yes.
For most peoples purposes they are almost identical in performance,
Are these two calibers much louder than 22 wmr and do they have a much stronger jerk?
@@sfabinjo461 The 222 is not a lot louder than 22 WMR. The 223 Remington is a bit louder than the 222. Neither round has much recoil, certainly not enough to be concerned with.
Puedo disparar un cartucho .223 en un rifle .222?
No, you cannot fire a .223 round in a .222 rifle. A 223 round will not fit in a .223 chamber.
Good video, was there much trash in the barrel after shooting session?
There was nothing unusual in the way of fouling.
Buen trabajo,bien detallado....se ve que te tomas tu tiempo.
Thanks for the feedback.
Sorry I can’t find the actual video but I have a question for you!
You posted a video of your shooting a Remington 700 in .223 I believe and you used a cast bullet with high tek coating. You were able to achieve very fast velocity while still maintaining accuracy, did you use a hard alloy and quench?
I’m trying with high tek but my bullets are losing accuracy after 1300ish FPS
I think this must be the video you are talking about: ruclips.net/video/l-Wj8-Dh2OQ/видео.html
I did not make those bullets, they were sent to me by a friend of the channel, Russell Houghton, you might want to check out his video's to see if he spells out what alloy and heat treat he used, you can find his channel here: ruclips.net/channel/UCptENlJddCdcGG8Hy6hWxlw
Thanks so much!
@@shamusarms5476 No problem.
For the price, not too bad, as you say. How did it work in the Remington?
It shot a bit better in the Remington, not surprising as the 700 has a better trigger.
Got one in a Remington 788 model I got from my dad 28 years ago. Ain't letting it go 'till I'm in a box. Period.
Barely hunting accuracy...but I'm going to try a box in my Sako L461 and see how they perform....would accept those groups at 200 yards but not at 100....
They were $5 a box so I was pleased with them for that money.
This ammo shoots good in my Brno 12ga/.222 over/under.
Those are interesting combo guns. BTW, that's a great username.
You ever seen 42 grain “Calhoun” .222 by HSM? I don’t think it’s available anymore.. Cabelas had it for a while in 50rnd box
No, I have not seen that stuff. We used to have a Cabela's within an hour and a half drive from where I live but it was closed since they merged with Bass Pro. So now the closest location is about four hours away, so basically I don't have easy access to their stores except by mail order.
Hi!
Does ammo still made?
Yes. PPU still makes this load.
what a twist of the barrel?
The twist is one in fourteen inches.
I accidentally bought some 222 Remington ammo thinking it was 223 Remington. It’s a good thing I noticed the difference before I tried to load it in my AR 🤦🏻♂️. Need to pay attention more closely when I’m buying ammo.
If you had tried firing it it probably would have been a "non event" - either it would chamber too deeply to go off or if it did fire the shoulder would blow forward and you would end up with empty brass with really short necks. I doubt any of the cases would have failed on you.
RWS for Baikal 222,repeat
I've never seen RWS 222 Remington ammo for sale here. I don't know if RWS centerfire ammo is sold in Canada.
I 've used norma ,Prvi, and RWS ammo in muy 222 Baikal whith the fined trigger and the best is the RWS
is this one of those knockoff calibres made for countries that dont let you use the same caliber the military uses?
No.
The .222 Remington actually predates the .223 Remington/5.56x45 and was introduced to the market in 1950 whereas the .223/5.56 dates from 1957.
Having said that there apparently were countries that forbid "military" calibers like .223/5.56x45 but allowed the same rifles when chambered in the "non-military" .222 Remington.
NO. The Remington .222 IS the parent cartridge to the .223. The .222 Magnum was in the running for militarization but the .223 case configuration gave the specifications dictated by the requirements.
Try loading it up with 55 grains bullets on top of 3 grains of Trail Boss... And a can on the muzzle.. Now THAT is fun..!! Only thing you hear is the firing-pin spring, and the whack when the bullet hits the target... 👍
Unfortunately suppressors are not legal where I live, but no doubt that would be a very quiet load.
Please tell me the rifle model and name
That information is in the video description.
Where did you get it for $5 a box? Best I can find is around $9.
It was clearance at a gun show from a recently closed gun shop.
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What has that got to do with the content of this video?
Find a 222 savage let me know pls
Those are not uncommon.
I had that same rifle in 223 shouldn’t have sell that one....oh well i bought a Tikka T3 in 223 instead ✌🏼😎👍🏼
That's not a bad change to have made....
Are these two calibers much louder than 22 wmr and do they have a much stronger jerk?
Хо,чу взять такой в 223м вместо 22 лр
What do you plan on hunting with a .223?
Just expressing my opinion...Break action rifle
Wouldnt be given that brand of ammo a fair shake..
What break action rifles do you have personal experience shooting?
As for how this ammo shoots, it shoots about the same out of my Remington 700.
222 and 223 look virtually identical, and share practically the same ballistics (think 308 vs 7.62 Russian).
Anyways, what would happen if you shoot a 222 in a 223/556 gun?
Yes, the 222 and 223 are very close in performance, the 223 being able to handle heavier bullets due to most rifles having a faster twist than the 222 rifles have.
I'm sure you know that both rounds headspace off the shoulder, and with the 222 shoulder being much further back than the one on a 223 there would be a massive amount of excessive headspace if the wrong round were fired. There would be a very good possibility of a case head separation on firing. Much would depend on the guns action and it's extractor set up. If the round were shoved quite far into the chamber, such as on a push feed action,the firing pin might not set it off. A controlled feed action would most likely hold the round against the breach face so it could be set off and then the forward part of the case would blow out, fire forming to the 223 chamber. Being as these are common rounds I'm sure this has happened on a somewhat frequent basis.
@@314299 Definitely not a Good idea, but it doesn't seem to be catastrophic… at least to the shooter. Definitely won't try it anyway. Obviously 223 won't fit on a 222 chamber because it's slightly longer and the neck is slightly shorter. Had 223 never existed, I've no doubt Stoner would've used the 222 for his AR15 rifle. 5.56X43 NATO in an alternate universe chambered in 55 and 62 gr.
@@DNchap1417 I mixed up them up once in 2008 and nothing happen.At the time I had just gotten two mini 14's chambered in a 222 and .223.So I didnt notice my mistake.Someone it out.
Not bad, nice video. $5 for a box of centerfire ammo is GREAT. I'M MAD AT MYSELF, I had a rifle like what you have but was a little nicer with a nickel plated receiver, had Remington name on it in 243 Winchester. 😲😳😵💫😩😢 It was built like a TANK and actually a NICE LOOKING RIFLE.🤨
Remington did import the Baikal line of firearms, branding them "Remington Spartan". It's astonishing how much these sell for now that they are no longer imported, the used ones I've seen listed are two times the price they cost when new.
@@314299 YES, I was a FOOL to let MINE go especially for cheap. It was a BEAUTIFUL RIFLE with the nickel plated receiver and BEAUTIFUL walnut furniture, it was in a GREAT CARTRIDGE as well 243. It would have been a GREAT FIRST RIFLE for a youngster, lady or someone who wanted a RELIABLE, WELL MADE, LIGHT RECOILING, comes apart for EASY transportation, STORAGE and INEXPENSIVE AMMO that can be found anywhere 😄 when compared to other calibers. 🤨😱😳😵💫😩😡🤬😢 Another mistake of selling something at the WRONG TIME.🤔😖😮💨
Аналог мр 18 мн)))! Ремингтон, хорошая штука))
The "Remington SPR 18" branded version was sold in the USA. My rifle is an original Baikal IZH-18MH. I live in Canada where Baikal were sold from the 1970's until recently.
I soo want. This. Gun
I'm sure if you look around for awhile you can find one for sale.
Worse case, shoot it and hand load! Great video
The ammo was certainly worth the $5 a box I paid for it and yes the empties are quite good for reloading.