Great review as usual It is indeed smart to choose a universal mounting and not be tied to a brand-bound mounting! This way you give after market a chance to survive and innovate. Suppose Bowtech, hoyt or PSE release a top bow next season, then you only have to buy the bow and build everything over!
Just got my Epsilon mounted this week. I really like it so far. I think Hamskea did a great job. It will be interesting to see how many bow manufacturers switch over to the new Hamskea integrated style holes on the riser.
@rich Jones I just picked up the V3X 33. With the new low pro detachable quiver. Did you use the universal mount like in the video or Mathews integrated mount? Do you get arrow contact with the rest ?
I used the universal mount as I have an Obsession turmoil. Matthews bows need to use the specific non integrated mount. As for arrow contact, I have not had any signs of that, although I did have to readjust the limb cable after the first week due to initial stretching.
Gonna give this rest a shot. Looks great. Quick question: Noticing the Bee Real Ultraview grip on your V3X 33. The honeycomb color matches the bow finish....don't see that one on their website. Did you paint it up yourself? Thanks
@@Briguy933 there is when you're a 31" draw. At 78# it shoots a 530gr arrow 290fps... Stable as hell. I have an Atlas from last year which is 35" ATA but the V3X has an inch longer riser even though it's 33 ATA
I have the Trinity, fantastic rest. My question is: the screws in the blade are still able to rust in matter of weeks? They should spen a few pennies more in them using einther stainless or titanium ones. A couple of screws won't break the bank...
@@caninphx I'm sure that would work. The question is why I should have to do that after paying ~200 € for their top of the line arrow rest. I'm pretty sure a couple of stainless screws would cost them a few cents, so why aren't being replaced when a well known piece which can be improved in quality at minimum cost?
Do you feel the Mathews V3x is more stable than the Hoyt rx7 ultra? I bought a Ventum pro 30 and liked it in the store but when I got it home and put it up against my halon, the halon was much more stable. So I sold the Ventum and am debating on the v3x 33 or the Hoyt ultra.
What´s the depth of this rest? I mean behind the riser. I hardly can find limb driven rests that fit my PSE Xpedite because there is only 1 3/8 - 1 1/2" room between the riser and the cables. And thanks for the great review!!! You´re doing a great job!
On my left handed V3X with the new Mathews quiver, the second arrow in my quiver hits the rotating mechanism on the epsilon. I think this has to do with how the quiver foam cutouts are arranged. On a left handed quiver, the second arrow cutout puts the arrow as close to the bow as possible, and contacts the rest. I think I’m going to try cutting the foam into a few pieces and moving them around so that the foam cutout that puts the arrow further from the bow is in the second position, but a bit of an annoying problem. I’m using micro diameter shafts.
Great review as usual ...you said your front bar is 15 inches how long is your back bar? Just wondering cause I'm going to a 15 inch front bar this year but I'm not sure what I'm going with out back..
I just picked up the original Trinity hunter for my vertix and I think I will tie it to the yolk too. Have you noticed any issues tying it in that way? Seems a bit cleaner and less prone to get caught on stuff
What you guys think about vapor trail hen 8x. I haven’t seen much reviews or Somme ya about it but the few reviews or comments I seen are great. Any feedback?!
So talked to one my shop owner and he knows one of the owners of hamskea and I was going to run my epsilon attach to the split cable he told me the arrow is supported longer when you attach it to the limb 3/4 of the way to the axle so right behind the x on the limb
Is the launcher material prone to grooving like the Trinity? I had about 200 shots through my Trinity and an asymmetrical groove developed. Switched to the G-Flex launcher and have had no issues.
Believe the launcher is metal on the epsilon. With a rubber coating. That being saidy launcher on my Trinity has a decent groove as well. Seems to have stopped now that the groove is the arrow. I purchased a few so I can switch them out every 4-6 months.
Awesome, info just got mine in and installed i ran into the same issue. With the launcher spring tension. Shootin bullets with 585 gr arrows and my 490 are .5-1in high tear. And I makes my upward adjustment and still getting it so I think thats my issue. I hope.
Has anyone had any excessive noise issues with the epsilon I’ve tightend one screw on it about 3 times now and it last for about a week or two then back to rattling like crazy.
Will the mathews mount fit older bows? I got a Reezen 6.5, lancaster told me yes, then hamskea drops a video a day ago saying 2020 & newer, the Reezen is 2009
Every blacked bolt will be rusted. Just bought Vapor trail gen 7x and one winter hunting day and all bolts rusted. Thats so sad that over 200 eur rests doesnt have stainless bolts.
@@mitchimal Hamskea makes a conversion kit that comes with a stainless steel bolt and also another attachment that gets rid of the spring. Worth the upgrade. No rusty bolts and no spring to stretch.
@@austintate8472 I would change the bolts myself but because im from finland its impossible to find those small bolts with inch threads because we have mm.
I have this rest on one of my v3 31 bows and I installed it just like you did. There is a tremendous amount of slack at full draw. I have 30 inch mods. Excessive slack at full draw I don't know about this thing
@@obionewheelkenobi689 what will it catch on? Been using one for 8 years hunting on the west coast of Oregon, which is as brushy as it gets, and never once has it caught on anything.
@@InsideOutPrecision wrist sling or low pro quiver it touches both depending which way all the slack flops. Shady I tell you. Messes with my black n white personality.
I get contact with my left handed V3X 33 and the 2 piece quiver. The way the foam cutouts are arranged puts that arrow right on top of the mechanism for the piece that falls away. If I’m doing something wrong, would love some guidance on how to fix.
@@IDrinkUrMilkshk another channel has posted a video with the same issue. Contact using the new 2 piece quiver and the epsilon rest. I like the idea of this rest but not with Contact of my arrows in quiver. This would cause noise during the shot and possibly accuracy issues.
Good review...really drops the quality with all the background talking in the background...what were you thinking...didn't bother to watch all of the review...sure SVA will cover it.
Just put one on my v3 this past Saturday. Love it so far. Replaced my mathews integrate.
Great review as usual
It is indeed smart to choose a universal mounting and not be tied to a brand-bound mounting!
This way you give after market a chance to survive and innovate.
Suppose Bowtech, hoyt or PSE release a top bow next season, then you only have to buy the bow and build everything over!
Just got my Epsilon mounted this week. I really like it so far. I think Hamskea did a great job. It will be interesting to see how many bow manufacturers switch over to the new Hamskea integrated style holes on the riser.
I had the same thought
@rich Jones I just picked up the V3X 33. With the new low pro detachable quiver. Did you use the universal mount like in the video or Mathews integrated mount? Do you get arrow contact with the rest ?
I used the universal mount as I have an Obsession turmoil. Matthews bows need to use the specific non integrated mount. As for arrow contact, I have not had any signs of that, although I did have to readjust the limb cable after the first week due to initial stretching.
Rich Jones great thank you
Thanks for another great review . Any plans on doing a review of the PSE Levitate ???
Gonna give this rest a shot. Looks great. Quick question: Noticing the Bee Real Ultraview grip on your V3X 33. The honeycomb color matches the bow finish....don't see that one on their website. Did you paint it up yourself? Thanks
I'm trying to save for the V3X but then this thing comes out! So slick
there is nothing fancy or extravagant about the v3x.
I love my v3x 33 over my Vertix, mainly because I’m a 30.2” draw length and it holds like a target bow
@@Briguy933 there is when you're a 31" draw. At 78# it shoots a 530gr arrow 290fps... Stable as hell. I have an Atlas from last year which is 35" ATA but the V3X has an inch longer riser even though it's 33 ATA
@@mitchimal I’m 26.5” haha at 75lbs 420gr arrow.
Great video. I just picked up the V3X 33. With the new low pro detachable quiver do you get arrow contact with the universal epsilon mount?
Looking forward to this one! 👊🏻🇺🇸
I have the Trinity, fantastic rest. My question is: the screws in the blade are still able to rust in matter of weeks? They should spen a few pennies more in them using einther stainless or titanium ones. A couple of screws won't break the bank...
Just out a tab of oil on them. Like a waxed chain lube that dries on.
@@caninphx I'm sure that would work. The question is why I should have to do that after paying ~200 € for their top of the line arrow rest. I'm pretty sure a couple of stainless screws would cost them a few cents, so why aren't being replaced when a well known piece which can be improved in quality at minimum cost?
Sweet rest
Do you feel the Mathews V3x is more stable than the Hoyt rx7 ultra? I bought a Ventum pro 30 and liked it in the store but when I got it home and put it up against my halon, the halon was much more stable. So I sold the Ventum and am debating on the v3x 33 or the Hoyt ultra.
What´s the depth of this rest? I mean behind the riser. I hardly can find limb driven rests that fit my PSE Xpedite because there is only 1 3/8 - 1 1/2" room between the riser and the cables.
And thanks for the great review!!! You´re doing a great job!
Great review I just got the rest for my v3x33 and love it quick question though is that the hout damper in your cable near the yoke spliter?
On my left handed V3X with the new Mathews quiver, the second arrow in my quiver hits the rotating mechanism on the epsilon. I think this has to do with how the quiver foam cutouts are arranged. On a left handed quiver, the second arrow cutout puts the arrow as close to the bow as possible, and contacts the rest. I think I’m going to try cutting the foam into a few pieces and moving them around so that the foam cutout that puts the arrow further from the bow is in the second position, but a bit of an annoying problem. I’m using micro diameter shafts.
Great review as usual ...you said your front bar is 15 inches how long is your back bar? Just wondering cause I'm going to a 15 inch front bar this year but I'm not sure what I'm going with out back..
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I just picked up the original Trinity hunter for my vertix and I think I will tie it to the yolk too. Have you noticed any issues tying it in that way? Seems a bit cleaner and less prone to get caught on stuff
What you guys think about vapor trail hen 8x. I haven’t seen much reviews or Somme ya about it but the few reviews or comments I seen are great. Any feedback?!
I’ve only set one up and it was fine, but it’s no hamskea.
So talked to one my shop owner and he knows one of the owners of hamskea and I was going to run my epsilon attach to the split cable he told me the arrow is supported longer when you attach it to the limb 3/4 of the way to the axle so right behind the x on the limb
Have made my own test with my Trinity and my V3, and the arrow support is almost the same from my yoke and Hamskea bracket at the end of my limb…
Excellent, put one on my V3X 33…
Is the launcher material prone to grooving like the Trinity? I had about 200 shots through my Trinity and an asymmetrical groove developed. Switched to the G-Flex launcher and have had no issues.
I switched to g flex for the same reasons
I always use the felt and have never had an issue
Believe the launcher is metal on the epsilon. With a rubber coating.
That being saidy launcher on my Trinity has a decent groove as well. Seems to have stopped now that the groove is the arrow. I purchased a few so I can switch them out every 4-6 months.
Awesome, info just got mine in and installed i ran into the same issue. With the launcher spring tension. Shootin bullets with 585 gr arrows and my 490 are .5-1in high tear. And I makes my upward adjustment and still getting it so I think thats my issue. I hope.
Has anyone had any excessive noise issues with the epsilon I’ve tightend one screw on it about 3 times now and it last for about a week or two then back to rattling like crazy.
Good day
I seem to getting a little contact with my vanes. I’m shooting blazer 2” vanes.
My rest cord is tied to the yoke splitter.
Please help! Haha
Will the mathews mount fit older bows? I got a Reezen 6.5, lancaster told me yes, then hamskea drops a video a day ago saying 2020 & newer, the Reezen is 2009
Do think the Epsilon would be compatible for a 2018 Mathews Triax?
Yes it will mount no problem
Will the bolt that screws into the riser rust like the ones in the past? I bought the conversion kit for my trinity to stop that from happening.
What conversion kit is it? My Trinity bolts are all rusting to crap now.. you'd think they'd use stainless on a hunting rest..
Every blacked bolt will be rusted. Just bought Vapor trail gen 7x and one winter hunting day and all bolts rusted. Thats so sad that over 200 eur rests doesnt have stainless bolts.
@@mitchimal Hamskea makes a conversion kit that comes with a stainless steel bolt and also another attachment that gets rid of the spring. Worth the upgrade. No rusty bolts and no spring to stretch.
@@JJ79_ I agree, why have a top of the line rest that will be out in the elements if it’s going to rust. It’s a simple fix.
@@austintate8472 I would change the bolts myself but because im from finland its impossible to find those small bolts with inch threads because we have mm.
If I am taking the QAD off the V3x and putting on the Hamskea, do I need to change anything with strings due to removing the cable driven rest?
Shouldn't need to, but I'd double check your cam timing just to be sure
How do you think this compares to the cbe defy?
We’ll the cbe is cable driven instead of limb driven… personally I’m not a fan of cable driven
I’m not shire if you have already been asked this, but will that rest fit a Hoyt carbon spider
Yeah the universal mount should fit
Iv seen that the arrows with the fixed quiver touches the rest but the detachable with arrows does not. Is that true?
Yeah the fixed quiver still needs the spacer kit for some reason. Youd think they would have checked that!
Will the new rebound damper work on the Trinity?
Yea
With the universal mount you will be able to torque tune with a v3x33 , correct?
Not really. You can't run it very far back because the cables guard gets in the way.
@@InsideOutPrecision thank you for the response. So that will be the case with every rest?
I was able to get my brothers V3 31 torque tuned. It didn’t take a lot of movement to get a good result.
@@mikereed845 thanks for the reply
Will you do a speed test with and without monkey tails to see if it affects speed
It does by like 1-2 fps. Never will notice.
It won't effect it enough for you notice
I have this rest on one of my v3 31 bows and I installed it just like you did. There is a tremendous amount of slack at full draw. I have 30 inch mods. Excessive slack at full draw I don't know about this thing
There is supposed be slack at full draw, that’s literally how it works…?
@@InsideOutPrecision no shit bro...my point is there is a ton of slack flopping around and it could catch on something.
@@obionewheelkenobi689 what will it catch on? Been using one for 8 years hunting on the west coast of Oregon, which is as brushy as it gets, and never once has it caught on anything.
@@InsideOutPrecision wrist sling or low pro quiver it touches both depending which way all the slack flops. Shady I tell you. Messes with my black n white personality.
@@obionewheelkenobi689 yeah and then on the shot it pulls tight again…not sure why you’re afraid of some slack.
Can you mount the quiver I think there is contact with this new rest
I've mounted over 50 of Mathews new quiver and there is no contact
@@InsideOutPrecision you have mounted 50 new style mathews quiver with this new rest?
@@obionewheelkenobi689 correct
I get contact with my left handed V3X 33 and the 2 piece quiver. The way the foam cutouts are arranged puts that arrow right on top of the mechanism for the piece that falls away. If I’m doing something wrong, would love some guidance on how to fix.
@@IDrinkUrMilkshk another channel has posted a video with the same issue. Contact using the new 2 piece quiver and the epsilon rest. I like the idea of this rest but not with Contact of my arrows in quiver. This would cause noise during the shot and possibly accuracy issues.
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Got an integrate mx 5w ago 😞🔫
Dang. Sell it!
The MX is a great rest too. Don't sweat it. Lots of love out there for the MX as well.
@@jasonbrady7861 lots of love until the day it doesn't drop
With the mx, why can't the cord be attached to the limb and put a rebound dampener on it instead of the cable?
Good review...really drops the quality with all the background talking in the background...what were you thinking...didn't bother to watch all of the review...sure SVA will cover it.