@@Wiegraf-n6b tiss hacking when scripts are involved, did you know that there is a term for this type of hacking? "off application hacking" its the same concept of people on PC running things in the background behind the game client. wish more people knew these things so that modern devs and companies cant act like they are "fixing it as fast as they can"
Mouse and keyboard players can do this to without this technology the scripts are just adding macros to a controller like a computer can add macros to a keyboard and mouse
@@robertlyons5761 while your argument is half right, the modern controller spoofing devices do have the ability to make and download script macros for things like no recoil and also are able to mask their mouse and keyboard as a controller in games that restrict their use. button macros are one thing but once you have something assisting your movement and aim then its not really you playing anymore. this is the main issue
as a controller player that has literally only played console, the no recoil is just cheating , some of the mods are helpful like slide cancel which is difficult to do on controller but recoil is something that is built into every game and its just not fair if you get rid of it
i havent played fortnite once in my life, but have quite some experience from val csgo and siege. this feels 100 percent like a cheat. it also gives a unfair advantage, which you have to buy. you arent controlling the recoil so it shouldnt be allowed, cause else the game will just turn into a cheat fest
@@gertrude27 Not getting earnings without a zen is the most standard thing 😐. If you literally cheat and can't get earnings though, that makes you extra bad
As a controller player, I definitely think it’s cheating. It’s one thing to own a good PC or a pro controller because you still have to master it. It’s another thing to have a magic device that basically plays half the game for you. (Edit: I was right! They’ve become a bannable offense!)
@@cronusmax Believe me I had a lot of fun as I started playing shooter at the age of 29. I never had a PC or console I were only working, playing football and partying with friends all day. So you can know I were always the worst in the lobby. I had the absolute cheapest pc you imagine and never had a mouse in hand before. But I still never considered cheating. I am now 35 and now above average in my skills even at my age. But I learned it the hard way from scratch. I will never be a top player but I hold my ground in every shooter I play now. If I would cheat it would not be fun it would be betraying myself and others.
@@cronusmax defend the losers some more why dont ya. The only people using that garbage device are the same ones who play story mode games on easy mode. They aren’t real winners and will never be able to experience it
The only thing that bugs me when zen conversations come up is that PC players always get so pissed about the edit reset macro. I really can't see any problem with such a macro since PC players have scroll wheel reset.
paying for a competitive advantage in a free to play game is cheating. This isn't the same as upgrading your PC parts for better FPS. This is a piece of hardware that allows for unintended actions that are not meant to be available to any players (such as stronger aim assist, macros, or no recoil) which directly impacts your ability to win (particularly in fights). You could have a god PC and still be trash at the game, better parts dont necessarily make you a better player, but with a Zen you will most certainly become a better player due to the cheats it allows for. And I don't know if anyone here has ever used action replay on pokemon... but that without a doubt is cheating, you could get a team full of shiny mewtwos lmao. The lack of a statement from Epic is embarrassing tho, this is why fortnite will never be a "real" esport because of poor communication from the developers, lack of care for the community's desires, and lack of competitive integrity from the players. On the bright side, this is an incredible video, great content and quality as always Justicul!
The final thing u said is fax they literally said thank you when benji said he was gonna quit they are making their game really crap atm and I'm getting sick of how op the weapons are getting so I have to build more u can't even use normal boxfight techniques like 2 box method anymore
You stated correctly in the first place just because you have a top notch pc don’t make you good at the game same with the Cronus zen it won’t give you an advantage it just make things easier just like a top notch pc and 240hz monitors so the second half of the statement is wrong
@@mikepagani6996 having stronger aim assist = better aim which definitely makes you a better player. As far as the mechanics side of the game, the two main actions are building/editing and shooting. Being able to increase your ability to do one of those things using a device is without a doubt an advantage. For example imagine giving kbm players aim assist, obviously that would be cheating because it’s an unintended advantage they are not supposed to have. It’s the exact same thing with a controller player having aim assist above a certain strength. It’s an advantage they are not meant to have. No player in the game is supposed to have no recoil when they shoot their guns. No player in the game is meant to have a macro that presses multiple buttons at once for them. All of these cheats on the zen gives players a competitive advantage that the game doesn’t intend ANY player to have. Also Fortnite themselves have literally already said that using a macro is cheating. They also said “using any kind of cheating device, program, or similar cheating method to gain a competitive advantage” is cheating in their chapter 3 season 3 official rules blog post published 6/24/22. There is no way to justify using a zen with these scripts as anything other than a cheating device. Converting your input device is totally okay, and fortnite agrees (ex. Double movement software) so if you’re using a zen to play with an Xbox controller on a play station or anything like that, it’s all good. But if you’re gaining an unintended advantage from scripts, then you shouldn’t even need a rule book to tell you that it’s cheating.
For this thing I feel like it should be treated like any other mod or cheat because this can definitely be considered one. Just use it for single player games and I would have no issue using it. If you are using it in a multiplayer game then it is undeniably cheating even if it isn’t truly hacking. Even though consoles do have aim assist, it is not that bad and could definitely be argued with being an aimbot due to how snappy it was. If people had restraint I’m sure this product wouldn’t be much of an issue but people always want to be better then others no matter what.
the console aim assist argument falls apart with any cross play game, M&K will always be more accurate. this is partially because there is no designated design for controller input across all games, its one of the biggest reason most controller settings are what cause controller players to be worse than they actually are, its an unfortunate side effect of people outright accepting the forced introduction of M&K on console....
What you people don't understand is it can only do what the game can do. If you can physically spam L2 to snap to people, that is because the game allows it (it doesn't anymore). Cronus Zen is just a more advanced rubberband. Even when you use mouse and keyboard in a game with Zen, the game is sending controller. You will never be able to turn faster than the controller.
How else are console players supposed to compete against pc sweats? Not everyone can afford a pc just to get good at a game we might as well get the mods since its just a video game
It's a controller mod that changes the parameters of the game. Aim assist is tuned to make controller vs. M&K closer to fair. Bump up your aim assist and it's cheating.
@@judahfalls7704 is a turbo controller cheating in Mario Party? This device is along those lines and it seems obvious if you mod your game or controller you're cheating. It's just about how much cheating is acceptable. Can pro players use a Cronus Zen? I don't think so, but what about a scuff or elite controller? Those have more buttons than a standard controller giving an unfair advantage over people playing with the standard controller. A Zen is cheating but for now it's slight enough to get away with.
Shout out to my guys that suffered through BO4 Ranked play, half of my games i was against players using MnK with cronus deleting me across the map with zero recoil and 20 ingame sens. Consoles and PC better figure out a way to detect cronus or at least disable your input if a foreign usb device is detected
@@cronusmax Its cheating because ben chill says "This is a piece of hardware that allows for unintended actions that are not meant to be available to any players (such as stronger aim assist, macros, or no recoil) which directly impacts your ability to win (particularly in fights)." if you cheat in a online video game you suck as a person as your cheating people out of money or other rewards which you did not earn by cheating if you cheat ur kinda weird ngl
Anyone that ZENs is a loser. I bought the original one WAY back for cod zombies. I literally just farmed rounds, I knew the power it held for multiplayer scripts and having rapidfire, better aim assist the list goes on. BUT I have never used this device to try and gain an advantage. It's stupid imo. I bet at least 1/4th the pro scene using controllers are on zen, If youuse ZEN, you will never get girls...
over reacting honestly, like its just hustling to get free cash who cares about doing it for real thats just bs gotta do what u gotta do to get the bag
With thoughts like that you might as well be a criminal if you know what's right and wrong. Breaking rules and breaking law similar thing lack of self respect to earn a honest living.
@@gertrude27 That’s so dumb, because games are meant for fun and you ruin the fun by cheating. Also some pros do make a living out of this game, which can be threatened by undetected cheaters, so it’s pointless to say «it’s just a game»
@@HolterDomino Purpose in life isnt to care about how much fun other people have playing fortnite, and most non cheating pros still easily make earnings its not that big of a deal and if it is they can just get a zen themselves
Lets be real any honest player is going to label using these scripts as cheating, I agree with the benefits for the products but the fact that they knowingly are giving people an easy way to cheat Is just bad, The amount of people using this product in a respectful manner has to be minimum as you see almost every "pro" using one, Them trying to justify the product by saying "well it allows for one handed controllers" yeah that's cool multi controller support is a good thing, why knowingly add a way for players to get a competitive advantage Ill tell you why because they want more people to buy it, the fact that they try so hard to make there product look good Is sickening you can find comments by them trying to justify it everywhere, IMO it's a money hungry company that's plaguing the gaming community.
Is it though really? By this definition... Is buying an elite controller with paddles and going up against people with a standard controller not cheating? Is playing on a higher spec console that pushes 2-4 times the framerate not cheating? Is using better internet and having a lower ping not cheating? Is match making against a PC user with a mouse and keyboard, or even a macro mouse and keyboard not them cheating? These are slight advantages at best that are probably less than the above advantages. You still have to aim. You still have to be able to play the game. At best maybe it gets you to the top of your skill level but it is not going to make you exceed it. Remember that all these devices can do is blindly press buttons. They cannot create anything that is not already in the game.
@@judahfalls7704 You are forgetting one crucial detail, None of the items you mention add scripts, scripts that can remove all/most recoil along with a array of other things, That is why Fortnite Is doing hardware bans and CallofDuty Is trying to combat it, By all means if you want to use it use it, As it stands right now it is cheating, In your words it is "pulling the stick around a bit like a player would" If I had a program on my pc to do that it would be cheating hands down, "It is lower educated people that are perpetuating" promotion comments like you.
@@デーモンサン you realize a script is just a macro right. Fortnite doesn't even have recoil. As I said if it can do it the player can do it. Get good trash.
@@judahfalls7704 Anything that changes the function of the game or the player without the player's actualy input is in fact, cheating as it circumvents game design implemented by the designers and goes against the intent. Just because the cheating isn't as blatant or severe, doesn't mean it isnt'. Cronus comparing themselves to something like a Gameshark should be enough to see they get what they're doing ;)
@@Jabler- Oh whatever dawg. You support playing online only unfinished micro transaction trash. You're perfectly okay with them making unbalanced games filled with unfair advantages across players like crazy and here you are acting like you're not? LOL!
It seems devs don’t want to give out bans for these cheaters in there free games because there is so many using these that you would literally be banning close to half the community and thats a lot of money lost on skins and micro transactions which is what keeps the game alive.
its not the case, more people stop play cuz of cheaters and it have more impact. Also its not so easy to detect bcs you already have some aim assist on controller and how do you find diffeence in 40 and 50 % aim assist, you dont. Thats why people aint banned
yea the zen isnt aimbot but as long as you can shoot kinda straight and have decent movement it gives you a crazy advantage. You might never go pro, but can be the diff between being a top 20% player and a top 10-5% player
@@cronusmax NGL I've seen alot of your comments, your the kind of person who'd sell their mom for pennies on the dollar if it ment you could have more cash.
all that needs to be done is find the code it pulls up when plugged in and lock the input from the device before it attempts to spoof the input. The easiest way is to make controller confirmation manually check the controllers analog position and input speed, thumbsticks can only move so far and devices like the mouse and keyboard easily go beyond the possible input a controller can provide The issue is that the devices spoof the controller input for something else. if any of these game companies were smart they would implement security behind controllers, most modern controllers have the potential to have security checks to make sure spoofing them isnt so easy. the main issue is that these evil companies are using the disabled as a shield to hide what they really use devices like the cronus zen for, input scripts and spoofing another input as a controller like Mouse and keyboard. they arent even focused on helping the disabled play games.
@@MB808AllDay dead as shit your a random and your screaming that out but it’s cool all the dogshit preds that don’t actually have skill use em only reason they’re pred that’s the problem it’d be a higher skill gap scene if the device didn’t exist
But it is used for cheating in onljne games. What dont you understand about that? No recoil, faster shooting, better aim assist. Its being used as a cheating device and you simply dont care. Shameful.
There is no integrity in gaming anymore, you don't know who's good and who isn't, you don't know if you've lost or you have been cheated out of a win its just a mess. You dobt know who is legit and who isn't. Its just a frustrating mess and its on every single game out.
Dude what you and many others do not understand, is fairness went out the window, the moment you people decided to match make console gamers against PC players. And if you play on PC, fairness has never existed. PC gamers will turn off foilage to see better, use wall hacks, aim bots, these things are a 1000 times more powerful than something that is entirely based on macro playback.
It’s crazy because the strike pack was banned on wz1 which was dumb for my case bc I personally use it for the paddles but the fact that they banned the strike pack over Cronus is insane
Once they figure out a way to detect it they need to issue 7 day bans until the problem is resolved. I have had a feeling epic knows a LARGE percentage of the playerbase and even pros are using zens and is afraid of losing paying customers. These players spend a lot of money on the game. Banning accounts for short durations of time would be annoying enough to stop zen use in its tracks. I highly doubt either companies are being truthful about this. I empathize with the disabled and people that are using it for some honest reason, but it's the cheaters that have ruined this for them, not the honest percentage of the playerbase..
they cant detect it cause it controls ur controller or mnk so there is nothing to detect they probably could but the software to detect it would be so intrusive it would be illegal also i saw on reddit they have made it so mnk is very easy to use with it so now mouse aim has cronus crazy
Doesn’t matter how you look at it if your using something in an online multiplayer game To help u aim , it’s cheating or get any Advantages over at the players it’s cheating
@EmberSL7 Accidentally took my reply off but the point is , if your using somthing to Purposely cheat in a online multiplayer game like giving your self perfect aim , then that’s unfair and cheating , , im not %100 sure about that other stuff guess it should be tested by Professionals to see if it gives people a unfair advantage and if anything does , simply get Reid of it or let everyone use the same thing. Where it’s fair on everyone , humans mess stuff up from time to time and zens basically turn you into a Computer that doesn’t miss. How is that fair to Your opponent in a online game ? It’s not ,
I like how you tried to defend cronus zen users by saying its not aimbot... aim assist is aimbot and when you turn it up that increasing the aimbot strength. So that's cheating there is a reason these products are not allowed at LAN tournaments. Creating an illusion that using cronus zen is not cheating is just wrong cause people desperately want to be better at what they enjoy doing and if they believe it's not wrong then they will feel justified using these cheats.
aim bot is when they are anywhere on screen and you shoot and the bullet goes right to their head no matter what. Aim assist is when you're almost about to shoot them and it shoots for you. One requires a tiny bit of effort and the other requires none at all. Learn the diff bk. Man it's sad that folks don't know this. I've known this since the halo 2 days almost 20 years ago lololol.
in runescape, using any third party objects (software or hardware) for an unfair advantage is an immediate ban. i enjoy it. i feel like they need to implement something similar and make their anticheat better if it’s allegedly undetectable.
There used to be a very good CS1.6 player called Mehkra. He was insanely good in online brackets and people loved his old frag movies. Until one day he fucked up. His aim bot toggle snapped from the enemy infront of him to an enemy much further away from his crosshair and it was very obvious, he was cheating and now he got caught. The conversations that started after that was a mixed reaction. "He only used it sometimes", "You still need to be really good at the game to do what he does and he only used the cheat to track his crosshair onto the target". I remember thinking why on earth are people not calling this for what it is...100% non arguable cheating. Warzone 2.0 is now released and I am trying my best to enjoy it with my friends but you just dont play under the same conditions as most other players. You go against aim assist, cronus controllers, cronus mouse users, wall hackers, aim botters and subscription-based hackers that can do whatever they want. I hope the future of gaming is in house gaming cause players have so many different opinions about what is acceptable in gaming.
Any script, processing, work around, that any one uses beyond what the game code intended is cheating. Doesn't matter if you are a worse player in any way, shape, or form. That's the natural order of things, some people suck, and some people are really good. To sway the odds in a different favor is why people hate extremly wealthy individuals that are driven by greed. But wait, that is why this product was made in the first place. Greed is at the all-time highest point. And to hide behind people with disabilities is shamefull and disgusting. This has tainted a legitimate gaming experience for all based on money and greed. This company knows far to well that their product, by a vast majority, is being abused by able bodied individuals in mass and dont want to confront that line of questioning by denying the very definition of cheating like you can make up your own definition. Old school gaming competitiveness will forever be lost as the best past time in gaming history.
stop the cap and regurgitating the trash EPIC has said in a PR statement. The zen does nothing more that what the top 25% of the player base does. So epic is going to ban the top 25% of the player base??? miss me with that trash....or just maybe...just maybe do you now feel more warm a fuzzy because of a PR statement. God damn people will believe anything......
Brother they're definitely more of a cheat than these people are letting on. I've seen vids of people showing how to use it. Auto shoot on your sniper when you aim and such..... It's way worse than you think.
If I told you I had a script that gave you 2000% better aiming would you believe me? These are just made up numbers and you believe it, because you are stupid. All these aim assist boosters do one thing, spin the camera analog stick based on the theory that the game might think you are bad at aiming and apply its best version of its assists that it applies to all players anyway. The real better aim is coming from the confidence boost, the placebo affect that players get from this sugar pill.
Anything which changes scripts and readings on input or alteration of game files to gain an advantage is cheating. No need to defend it, or double movement would be cheating. Double movement just can't classified as cheating, it only affects movement and does not give you a speed boost 🤣.. Let me get a zen, get better aim. 🙄 Difference
@@cronusmax LOL Love this comment ! I agree 100% just not sure how Fortnite of all games let this slide, but APEX does not ... Maybe since Zen player base increased lol we will never know
experience val csgo and siege. this feels 100 percent like a cheat. it also gives a unfair advantage, which you have to buy. you arent controlling the recoil so it shouldnt be allowed, cause else the game will just turn into a cheat fest
Many games are already a cheat fest, all we can hope for are epic honourable Chads to play honestly and lay a whoopin' on zen and the like abusers to the point they cry and give up.
Bro thank you for this video I hope people watch it and become more educated on the subject. I feel like a broken record saying cronus zen in warzone but it's true... and it's a shame.
Who is this “Cronus MaxADMIN” person and why are they commenting to try and defend their product here? Like everyone here doesn’t like your product, at least try and fight your battles somewhere where some people may agree with you.
Justicul i respect you a lot for your videos but dont you think that by making this type of video, you will give the zen more unwanted attention? At least for me, it sucks to see your friends genuinely talk about wanting to buy a zen so that they can better
@@Justicul reet became pro with the zen cause in chapter 1 he use to always place top 2,000 but when he got the zen in chapter 2 he started becoming pro
@@frostycarlos1435 are you 1000% sure that he uses one , cause he literally destroyed half the lobby in that last lan tournament and he didn't have one
with the state of aim assist and limitations of controller compared to kbm, a controller player can’t keep up without a zen at the competitive level. almost every single controller pro most likely cheats.
Was playing sports mode on GT7 today, thought I did pretty good - in qualifying, knocked 10 seconds off a track I did on a cafe menu, but was surprised that people were somehow 14 seconds faster… Bit of a deep dive on the web, and now I’m “ah okay, that make sense now”
Yes its cheating 100% having a stickier aa or no recoil could literally be the millisecond difference between losing or winning a very close fight. Imagine a scenario where you could just run around and beam people and face no challenge or pressure in return. It's so dumb and you know what the worst thing about this is? : Is that the people who are actually gifted at the game/s will never get the recognition because apparently they wouldn't be 'good enough'. I don't have a problem with people using if its intent is to make single player offline games easier. It's when they use it in a competitive setting especially with money on the line and for clout etc. I know for a fact that there are pro gamers who make mad $ using this and it's disgusting.
Not tryna be that guy but i am one of the rare ones who never cheated, i guarantee i would have made good $ cheating in tournaments on fortnite. but dignity is worth more then $. im older then most gamers but i still wreck it. 2.5-3kd on fort when i really gamed before i quit ranked top 20-25k in the world. why would i ruin peoples experience who are like me from cheating just to get a bag. i only play occasionally and me learning mouse and keyboard still makes me an excellent player because i always played legit.
also when you get to the top level of "pro" gaming, the smallest advantage is a mile. i have lost tons of gun fights from my aim being natural and im off by 1-2 shots where people i know who zen are beating me.
@@riggatonii I feel you man. I feel like the zen also gives the user more confidence because then aim one less thing to worry about. Knowing they can hit their shots, they can think more about positioning and everything else going on around them and that's literally a skill they get to freely build on. I'm the same I don't cheat but I do use a scuf controller. I wouldn't consider that cheating though. And yes about dignity and integrity.. I want to earn it on a level playing field though I've been tempted to join them but we'll see.
of course, most people will say it won't make you any better or it's not like a aimbot, the fact is with this device you have access too many different scripts some that people pay for and then leak it for it to be free for all. it does matter on who made the script. I have seen scripts that locks to face automatic after ads . some scripts require settings to match in game in order to work or they will break in game and not work. there are useful scripts--for example a script that turns off the xmb button so kids can't mess with stuff but the game. but overall people use this for unfair advantage. there is a reason guns have recoil it should not be allowed it's no different from buying a 300$ modded controller , welcome to modern day gaming
The problem lies with how the device is used, there are legitimate uses for disabled users or even some of the more basic mapping functions like Steam Input does. However, some things like anti-recoil really should just not be there at all. So the company isn't entirely innocent, it should be marketed as an accesibility accessory not a gain an advantage accessory.
Justicul: link to buy a Zen in the description! Me: *looks immediately in description* FINALLY, I CAN GET TO CHAMPS LEAGUE Also me: damn I really wanted that *Zen* Edit: I know a Zen is a dirty cheating device, it’s just a joke 😂
I never know about this until today... So right now if i ever died in any fps multiplayer games, i will suspect them using this f***ing zen..can't get my head around now
It's sad that almost all of the top ranked people on apex and likely other games are clearly all cheating in some way now. Even that Genburten guy is clearly cheating but people will simp for him and defend him, even though it's literally impossible to play the way he does
Or start a petition to get the product banned being sold by anyone and it offence if you caught try to sell it we as gamers have the power to make that happen
If you have to use a zen to lock pick in dying light, I don't think gaming is for you
@@cronusmax you're fighting for your life only to look even dumber. Many games ToS state macros and many features on zen are cheating
@@cronusmax can’t believe a company is behaving like this😂 you guys are a joke
Ikr ? That’s actually pathetic, it’s unbelievable how easy it is to pick lock in dying light. And these ass hats need scripts for that?
@@cronusmax why do you sound like a 10 year old defending himself even in the comment thats pinned
@@cronusmax tell that to the esports community your ruining ?
It makes controlling and aiming easier in all mainstream shooters. How is this not cheating? Delusional people I tell ya.
It is cheating, it however isn’t hacking the game since it’s client side.
@@Wiegraf-n6b tiss hacking when scripts are involved, did you know that there is a term for this type of hacking?
"off application hacking" its the same concept of people on PC running things in the background behind the game client.
wish more people knew these things so that modern devs and companies cant act like they are "fixing it as fast as they can"
Yea cheating is using external devices too, Its not always internal cheats, stupid script kids
Mouse and keyboard players can do this to without this technology the scripts are just adding macros to a controller like a computer can add macros to a keyboard and mouse
@@robertlyons5761 while your argument is half right, the modern controller spoofing devices do have the ability to make and download script macros for things like no recoil and also are able to mask their mouse and keyboard as a controller in games that restrict their use.
button macros are one thing but once you have something assisting your movement and aim then its not really you playing anymore.
this is the main issue
Netflix level quality.
Nah even better bruh
Why r u being offensive for no reason
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@@eIectro for what?
Is that a good thing or a bad thing
i just find it annoying how undetectable it is
fr bro
Stay mad broke
its crazy
@@cronusmax yes sir
Cry some more
as a controller player that has literally only played console, the no recoil is just cheating , some of the mods are helpful like slide cancel which is difficult to do on controller but recoil is something that is built into every game and its just not fair if you get rid of it
I agree with the slide cancel but that’s why you buy a controller with paddles not a device with mods and scripts
@\f_a/ bro she uses way more than cronus.... 🤣
It is not getting rid of the recoil though. All it is doing is pulling the stick around a bit like a player would.
@@judahfalls7704 with software that takes away the recoil in game, your saying the same thing he is whats your point?
@@petejones6827it’s a lot clunkier than you think. When you use it any like stick movement throws it off.
i havent played fortnite once in my life, but have quite some experience from val csgo and siege. this feels 100 percent like a cheat. it also gives a unfair advantage, which you have to buy. you arent controlling the recoil so it shouldnt be allowed, cause else the game will just turn into a cheat fest
imagine buying a zen and not making any money 💀
@@zeteny imagine thinking aim is the only thing you need to get earnings 💀
@@gertrude27 It's not, but if you don't make earnings with it then you are probably pretty bad🤭
@@jethatchard1276 someone without zen who cant get earnings is also pretty bad, whats your point?
@@gertrude27 Not getting earnings without a zen is the most standard thing 😐. If you literally cheat and can't get earnings though, that makes you extra bad
As a controller player, I definitely think it’s cheating. It’s one thing to own a good PC or a pro controller because you still have to master it. It’s another thing to have a magic device that basically plays half the game for you. (Edit: I was right! They’ve become a bannable offense!)
how refreshing a gamepad player agrees with me on this topic. Maybe humanity isn´t lost
@@cronusmax Believe me I had a lot of fun as I started playing shooter at the age of 29. I never had a PC or console I were only working, playing football and partying with friends all day. So you can know I were always the worst in the lobby. I had the absolute cheapest pc you imagine and never had a mouse in hand before. But I still never considered cheating. I am now 35 and now above average in my skills even at my age. But I learned it the hard way from scratch. I will never be a top player but I hold my ground in every shooter I play now. If I would cheat it would not be fun it would be betraying myself and others.
@@cronusmax defend the losers some more why dont ya. The only people using that garbage device are the same ones who play story mode games on easy mode. They aren’t real winners and will never be able to experience it
@@cronusmax but what if ur not learning and you’re an experienced player? Now ur good AND you have a complete unfair advantage
The only thing that bugs me when zen conversations come up is that PC players always get so pissed about the edit reset macro. I really can't see any problem with such a macro since PC players have scroll wheel reset.
paying for a competitive advantage in a free to play game is cheating. This isn't the same as upgrading your PC parts for better FPS. This is a piece of hardware that allows for unintended actions that are not meant to be available to any players (such as stronger aim assist, macros, or no recoil) which directly impacts your ability to win (particularly in fights). You could have a god PC and still be trash at the game, better parts dont necessarily make you a better player, but with a Zen you will most certainly become a better player due to the cheats it allows for. And I don't know if anyone here has ever used action replay on pokemon... but that without a doubt is cheating, you could get a team full of shiny mewtwos lmao. The lack of a statement from Epic is embarrassing tho, this is why fortnite will never be a "real" esport because of poor communication from the developers, lack of care for the community's desires, and lack of competitive integrity from the players.
On the bright side, this is an incredible video, great content and quality as always Justicul!
The final thing u said is fax they literally said thank you when benji said he was gonna quit they are making their game really crap atm and I'm getting sick of how op the weapons are getting so I have to build more u can't even use normal boxfight techniques like 2 box method anymore
epic doesn't care about the community because they are sick of the constant bitching.
You stated correctly in the first place just because you have a top notch pc don’t make you good at the game same with the Cronus zen it won’t give you an advantage it just make things easier just like a top notch pc and 240hz monitors so the second half of the statement is wrong
@@mikepagani6996 having stronger aim assist = better aim which definitely makes you a better player. As far as the mechanics side of the game, the two main actions are building/editing and shooting. Being able to increase your ability to do one of those things using a device is without a doubt an advantage. For example imagine giving kbm players aim assist, obviously that would be cheating because it’s an unintended advantage they are not supposed to have.
It’s the exact same thing with a controller player having aim assist above a certain strength. It’s an advantage they are not meant to have. No player in the game is supposed to have no recoil when they shoot their guns. No player in the game is meant to have a macro that presses multiple buttons at once for them. All of these cheats on the zen gives players a competitive advantage that the game doesn’t intend ANY player to have. Also Fortnite themselves have literally already said that using a macro is cheating. They also said “using any kind of cheating device, program, or similar cheating method to gain a competitive advantage” is cheating in their chapter 3 season 3 official rules blog post published 6/24/22. There is no way to justify using a zen with these scripts as anything other than a cheating device. Converting your input device is totally okay, and fortnite agrees (ex. Double movement software) so if you’re using a zen to play with an Xbox controller on a play station or anything like that, it’s all good. But if you’re gaining an unintended advantage from scripts, then you shouldn’t even need a rule book to tell you that it’s cheating.
Better fps does not necessarily give you better performance, aim bot guaranteed will make you much better
For this thing I feel like it should be treated like any other mod or cheat because this can definitely be considered one. Just use it for single player games and I would have no issue using it. If you are using it in a multiplayer game then it is undeniably cheating even if it isn’t truly hacking.
Even though consoles do have aim assist, it is not that bad and could definitely be argued with being an aimbot due to how snappy it was. If people had restraint I’m sure this product wouldn’t be much of an issue but people always want to be better then others no matter what.
the console aim assist argument falls apart with any cross play game, M&K will always be more accurate.
this is partially because there is no designated design for controller input across all games, its one of the biggest reason most controller settings are what cause controller players to be worse than they actually are, its an unfortunate side effect of people outright accepting the forced introduction of M&K on console....
What you people don't understand is it can only do what the game can do. If you can physically spam L2 to snap to people, that is because the game allows it (it doesn't anymore). Cronus Zen is just a more advanced rubberband. Even when you use mouse and keyboard in a game with Zen, the game is sending controller. You will never be able to turn faster than the controller.
How else are console players supposed to compete against pc sweats? Not everyone can afford a pc just to get good at a game we might as well get the mods since its just a video game
It's a controller mod that changes the parameters of the game. Aim assist is tuned to make controller vs. M&K closer to fair. Bump up your aim assist and it's cheating.
@@judahfalls7704 is a turbo controller cheating in Mario Party? This device is along those lines and it seems obvious if you mod your game or controller you're cheating. It's just about how much cheating is acceptable. Can pro players use a Cronus Zen? I don't think so, but what about a scuff or elite controller? Those have more buttons than a standard controller giving an unfair advantage over people playing with the standard controller. A Zen is cheating but for now it's slight enough to get away with.
Shout out to my guys that suffered through BO4 Ranked play, half of my games i was against players using MnK with cronus deleting me across the map with zero recoil and 20 ingame sens. Consoles and PC better figure out a way to detect cronus or at least disable your input if a foreign usb device is detected
What's funny is now you are just matchmaked against pc users legitimately with native m&k.
RESPECT FOR NOT LINKING THAT STUFF OR MAKEING IT SEEM LIKE AIMBOT SO LESS WEIRDOS BUY IT
"Makeing" lmao
trueeee
@@carefvl2003 its just a spelling mistake u don't have to be so fucking toxic about it.
@@cronusmax Its cheating because ben chill says "This is a piece of hardware that allows for unintended actions that are not meant to be available to any players (such as stronger aim assist, macros, or no recoil) which directly impacts your ability to win (particularly in fights)." if you cheat in a online video game you suck as a person as your cheating people out of money or other rewards which you did not earn by cheating if you cheat ur kinda weird ngl
@@frigidszn7510 cry some more spaz
Anyone that ZENs is a loser. I bought the original one WAY back for cod zombies. I literally just farmed rounds, I knew the power it held for multiplayer scripts and having rapidfire, better aim assist the list goes on. BUT I have never used this device to try and gain an advantage. It's stupid imo. I bet at least 1/4th the pro scene using controllers are on zen, If youuse ZEN, you will never get girls...
over reacting honestly, like its just hustling to get free cash who cares about doing it for real thats just bs gotta do what u gotta do to get the bag
With thoughts like that you might as well be a criminal if you know what's right and wrong. Breaking rules and breaking law similar thing lack of self respect to earn a honest living.
@@badbonezFN its different when its just a game
@@gertrude27 That’s so dumb, because games are meant for fun and you ruin the fun by cheating. Also some pros do make a living out of this game, which can be threatened by undetected cheaters, so it’s pointless to say «it’s just a game»
@@HolterDomino Purpose in life isnt to care about how much fun other people have playing fortnite, and most non cheating pros still easily make earnings its not that big of a deal and if it is they can just get a zen themselves
The editing was top-notch!!!! 🔥🔥
This is why I won't play competitive multiplayer games anymore. It's not about skill anymore, now it's all about who has the better cheats.
*Ahem* cross-play *cough*but I see what you’re saying tho and I definitely agree with you
Lets be real any honest player is going to label using these scripts as cheating, I agree with the benefits for the products but the fact that they knowingly are giving people an easy way to cheat Is just bad, The amount of people using this product in a respectful manner has to be minimum as you see almost every "pro" using one, Them trying to justify the product by saying "well it allows for one handed controllers" yeah that's cool multi controller support is a good thing, why knowingly add a way for players to get a competitive advantage Ill tell you why because they want more people to buy it, the fact that they try so hard to make there product look good Is sickening you can find comments by them trying to justify it everywhere, IMO it's a money hungry company that's plaguing the gaming community.
Is it though really? By this definition... Is buying an elite controller with paddles and going up against people with a standard controller not cheating? Is playing on a higher spec console that pushes 2-4 times the framerate not cheating? Is using better internet and having a lower ping not cheating? Is match making against a PC user with a mouse and keyboard, or even a macro mouse and keyboard not them cheating? These are slight advantages at best that are probably less than the above advantages. You still have to aim. You still have to be able to play the game. At best maybe it gets you to the top of your skill level but it is not going to make you exceed it. Remember that all these devices can do is blindly press buttons. They cannot create anything that is not already in the game.
@@judahfalls7704 You are forgetting one crucial detail, None of the items you mention add scripts, scripts that can remove all/most recoil along with a array of other things, That is why Fortnite Is doing hardware bans and CallofDuty Is trying to combat it, By all means if you want to use it use it, As it stands right now it is cheating, In your words it is "pulling the stick around a bit like a player would" If I had a program on my pc to do that it would be cheating hands down, "It is lower educated people that are perpetuating" promotion comments like you.
@@デーモンサン you realize a script is just a macro right. Fortnite doesn't even have recoil. As I said if it can do it the player can do it. Get good trash.
@@judahfalls7704 Anything that changes the function of the game or the player without the player's actualy input is in fact, cheating as it circumvents game design implemented by the designers and goes against the intent. Just because the cheating isn't as blatant or severe, doesn't mean it isnt'. Cronus comparing themselves to something like a Gameshark should be enough to see they get what they're doing ;)
@@Jabler- Oh whatever dawg. You support playing online only unfinished micro transaction trash. You're perfectly okay with them making unbalanced games filled with unfair advantages across players like crazy and here you are acting like you're not? LOL!
The Zen and strike pack are a huge problem on Apex especially since there's so many top preds using it lol
Battlefield and COD too
It seems devs don’t want to give out bans for these cheaters in there free games because there is so many using these that you would literally be banning close to half the community and thats a lot of money lost on skins and micro transactions which is what keeps the game alive.
its not the case, more people stop play cuz of cheaters and it have more impact. Also its not so easy to detect bcs you already have some aim assist on controller and how do you find diffeence in 40 and 50 % aim assist, you dont. Thats why people aint banned
These things have completely ruined games like Rust on console. Its impossible to be an honest player and face someone using cronus zen with an AK..
yea the zen isnt aimbot but as long as you can shoot kinda straight and have decent movement it gives you a crazy advantage. You might never go pro, but can be the diff between being a top 20% player and a top 10-5% player
All pro cheats
Just came here after Fortnite banned Cronus Zen in the new season to figure out what it is, I’m glad it’s banned now
Ever since u switched up the content, I have been enjoying your vids a lot more ❤️
Crazy that these things are nearly undetectable
Are you wave vic0 or nah
As a zen user, I would say, thats not my problem
@@cronusmax can i have free zen :O
Not nearly, they ARE undetectable
@@cronusmax NGL I've seen alot of your comments, your the kind of person who'd sell their mom for pennies on the dollar if it ment you could have more cash.
Its so unreal you can go in a Cash Cup and not get detected and use Cronus Zen and win money.
Fucking gamers are nothing but frauds. What a joke.
How is their not a class action lawsuit against them their ruining and destroying every game studios products
Aw man, I thought there was gonna be a Amazon link in the description 💀
Caught you in 4k 📸
Justicul bro he’s trolling 💀 you didn’t catch much. Lololol
I wish they'd figure out a way to start banning kids for ZEN. It's scripting and an unfair advantage.
all that needs to be done is find the code it pulls up when plugged in and lock the input from the device before it attempts to spoof the input.
The easiest way is to make controller confirmation manually check the controllers analog position and input speed, thumbsticks can only move so far and devices like the mouse and keyboard easily go beyond the possible input a controller can provide
The issue is that the devices spoof the controller input for something else. if any of these game companies were smart they would implement security behind controllers, most modern controllers have the potential to have security checks to make sure spoofing them isnt so easy.
the main issue is that these evil companies are using the disabled as a shield to hide what they really use devices like the cronus zen for, input scripts and spoofing another input as a controller like Mouse and keyboard. they arent even focused on helping the disabled play games.
Your favorite mkb pros use macros to tap strafe or reset/build on fortnite
@@MB808AllDay tap strafing is nothing compared to anti recoil if the zen didn’t specifically have that it wouldn’t be that bad
@@novapheonixgaming buy a zen and test it out then and ship it back when you’re done. It’ll make you play worse you’re just buns buddy.
@@MB808AllDay dead as shit your a random and your screaming that out but it’s cool all the dogshit preds that don’t actually have skill use em only reason they’re pred that’s the problem it’d be a higher skill gap scene if the device didn’t exist
He actually said it doesn't give you aimboy... if no recoil, sticking to enemies more and overall better aim isn't considered an advantage then 2+2=5
@@cronusmax Did you even read my comment?
But it is used for cheating in onljne games. What dont you understand about that? No recoil, faster shooting, better aim assist. Its being used as a cheating device and you simply dont care. Shameful.
@@cronusmax The damage control is strong with you boi
There is no integrity in gaming anymore, you don't know who's good and who isn't, you don't know if you've lost or you have been cheated out of a win its just a mess. You dobt know who is legit and who isn't. Its just a frustrating mess and its on every single game out.
Dude what you and many others do not understand, is fairness went out the window, the moment you people decided to match make console gamers against PC players. And if you play on PC, fairness has never existed. PC gamers will turn off foilage to see better, use wall hacks, aim bots, these things are a 1000 times more powerful than something that is entirely based on macro playback.
Your inspiration never ends, nice video💪🏽
It’s crazy because the strike pack was banned on wz1 which was dumb for my case bc I personally use it for the paddles but the fact that they banned the strike pack over Cronus is insane
Once they figure out a way to detect it they need to issue 7 day bans until the problem is resolved. I have had a feeling epic knows a LARGE percentage of the playerbase and even pros are using zens and is afraid of losing paying customers. These players spend a lot of money on the game. Banning accounts for short durations of time would be annoying enough to stop zen use in its tracks. I highly doubt either companies are being truthful about this. I empathize with the disabled and people that are using it for some honest reason, but it's the cheaters that have ruined this for them, not the honest percentage of the playerbase..
they cant detect it cause it controls ur controller or mnk so there is nothing to detect they probably could but the software to detect it would be so intrusive it would be illegal also i saw on reddit they have made it so mnk is very easy to use with it so now mouse aim has cronus crazy
@@shaggy-wb1yn they patched it on ps5 only. everything is detectable
@@RPGkanon there are apparently work-arounds
@@christianroberts23 you gotta buy a 100$ usb thingy and remote play your controller which adds latency
@@RPGkanon crazy thing is that people will actually buy that
Doesn’t matter how you look at it if your using something in an online multiplayer game To help u aim , it’s cheating or get any Advantages over at the players it’s cheating
@EmberSL7 Accidentally took my reply off but the point is , if your using somthing to Purposely cheat in a online multiplayer game like giving your self perfect aim , then that’s unfair and cheating , , im not %100 sure about that other stuff guess it should be tested by Professionals to see if it gives people a unfair advantage and if anything does , simply get Reid of it or let everyone use the same thing. Where it’s fair on everyone , humans mess stuff up from time to time and zens basically turn you into a Computer that doesn’t miss. How is that fair to Your opponent in a online game ? It’s not ,
@EmberSL7 None of those are cheating.
Big respect for not jamming an affiliate link in bio 🤝🏽
i really like the videos where you say why youtubers disappear. can you do one about Fearless?
If I ever find new information I will ;)
This man deserves at least 1 mil subs
legit why I can't play fps game dude, zens are annoying as hell, impossible to play against someone that uses one of these
Always coming out with bangers
I don't understand how you don't have more subs😵💫
I like how you tried to defend cronus zen users by saying its not aimbot... aim assist is aimbot and when you turn it up that increasing the aimbot strength. So that's cheating there is a reason these products are not allowed at LAN tournaments. Creating an illusion that using cronus zen is not cheating is just wrong cause people desperately want to be better at what they enjoy doing and if they believe it's not wrong then they will feel justified using these cheats.
aim bot is when they are anywhere on screen and you shoot and the bullet goes right to their head no matter what.
Aim assist is when you're almost about to shoot them and it shoots for you. One requires a tiny bit of effort and the other requires none at all. Learn the diff bk. Man it's sad that folks don't know this. I've known this since the halo 2 days almost 20 years ago lololol.
because it isn’t aimbot…
in runescape, using any third party objects (software or hardware) for an unfair advantage is an immediate ban. i enjoy it. i feel like they need to implement something similar and make their anticheat better if it’s allegedly undetectable.
Haha, now is inside of the ps5 controller 😂😂😂...ps5 controller ha been hacked as a pie
The fact that many people use zen is annoying fortnite needs to fix that problem
@@cronusmax In fn?
There used to be a very good CS1.6 player called Mehkra. He was insanely good in online brackets and people loved his old frag movies. Until one day he fucked up. His aim bot toggle snapped from the enemy infront of him to an enemy much further away from his crosshair and it was very obvious, he was cheating and now he got caught. The conversations that started after that was a mixed reaction. "He only used it sometimes", "You still need to be really good at the game to do what he does and he only used the cheat to track his crosshair onto the target". I remember thinking why on earth are people not calling this for what it is...100% non arguable cheating. Warzone 2.0 is now released and I am trying my best to enjoy it with my friends but you just dont play under the same conditions as most other players. You go against aim assist, cronus controllers, cronus mouse users, wall hackers, aim botters and subscription-based hackers that can do whatever they want. I hope the future of gaming is in house gaming cause players have so many different opinions about what is acceptable in gaming.
the sticky aim assist is enough to make a difference... no wonder all these streamers are using it.
Any script, processing, work around, that any one uses beyond what the game code intended is cheating. Doesn't matter if you are a worse player in any way, shape, or form. That's the natural order of things, some people suck, and some people are really good. To sway the odds in a different favor is why people hate extremly wealthy individuals that are driven by greed. But wait, that is why this product was made in the first place. Greed is at the all-time highest point. And to hide behind people with disabilities is shamefull and disgusting. This has tainted a legitimate gaming experience for all based on money and greed. This company knows far to well that their product, by a vast majority, is being abused by able bodied individuals in mass and dont want to confront that line of questioning by denying the very definition of cheating like you can make up your own definition. Old school gaming competitiveness will forever be lost as the best past time in gaming history.
Always a good day when you upload😄
It is hacking, if you’re scripting that’s enough to count as hacking in many games, removing recoil is enough to count as cheating.
3 months later ... Cronus Zen detected permanently banned, if you use it more than twice.
stop the cap and regurgitating the trash EPIC has said in a PR statement. The zen does nothing more that what the top 25% of the player base does. So epic is going to ban the top 25% of the player base??? miss me with that trash....or just maybe...just maybe do you now feel more warm a fuzzy because of a PR statement. God damn people will believe anything......
@@Masi22isaM lul
Makes sense now ,, I used to be a 40-10 player on black ops , then when I tried playing the new games , I get shot as soon as I respawn
Brother they're definitely more of a cheat than these people are letting on. I've seen vids of people showing how to use it. Auto shoot on your sniper when you aim and such..... It's way worse than you think.
what you are seeing is clever editing and faking from people that want to sell scripts.
Glad it’s finally a bannable offense
Keep up the great content
This is a full documentary
If you need to use 3rd party content to aid you in game with aim scripts etc, that is indeed cheating.
Hopefully LAN tournaments will reduce the usage of ZEN
The problem is PC players that have so many unfair advantages over console players.
mouse and keyboard are compatible with new console ....
I've know people with scripts that allows 700% aim assist and is aimbot so yeah zen needs to go
If I told you I had a script that gave you 2000% better aiming would you believe me? These are just made up numbers and you believe it, because you are stupid. All these aim assist boosters do one thing, spin the camera analog stick based on the theory that the game might think you are bad at aiming and apply its best version of its assists that it applies to all players anyway. The real better aim is coming from the confidence boost, the placebo affect that players get from this sugar pill.
Anything which changes scripts and readings on input or alteration of game files to gain an advantage is cheating. No need to defend it, or double movement would be cheating. Double movement just can't classified as cheating, it only affects movement and does not give you a speed boost 🤣.. Let me get a zen, get better aim. 🙄 Difference
@@cronusmax LOL Love this comment ! I agree 100% just not sure how Fortnite of all games let this slide, but APEX does not ... Maybe since Zen player base increased lol we will never know
@@cronusmax ewww you’re gross.
@@badbonezFN You can still use the zen in EVERY SINGLE GAME. Its undetectable.
@@cronusmax here’s another word for you to look up you thick fk: “euphemism”. You need a dictionary-mod to help you with your English.
how u gon make me wait for a call and they aint even pick up, clickbait asf
experience val csgo and siege. this feels 100 percent like a cheat. it also gives a unfair advantage, which you have to buy. you arent controlling the recoil so it shouldnt be allowed, cause else the game will just turn into a cheat fest
Many games are already a cheat fest, all we can hope for are epic honourable Chads to play honestly and lay a whoopin' on zen and the like abusers to the point they cry and give up.
Cheating is defined as an "act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage"
So yea….
In 2k it’s way more op and annoying
Love the Pokémon audio. Adds so much to the video. Keep it ip
It‘s clearly cheating
So many scum bags in gaming these days. So many streamers abusing their young audience like zlander
its cheating bro if they have macro thats cheating imagine cs pros would use it
Bro thank you for this video I hope people watch it and become more educated on the subject. I feel like a broken record saying cronus zen in warzone but it's true... and it's a shame.
Who is this “Cronus MaxADMIN” person and why are they commenting to try and defend their product here? Like everyone here doesn’t like your product, at least try and fight your battles somewhere where some people may agree with you.
thats the official Cronus yt channel. And unfortunately there does seem to be alot of people here that use the cronus zen.
you have to ask yourself why dont sony or microsoft sue them or have an appropriate defense mechanism for it
@\f_a/ thats funny as ds4 can detect it so i reckon they can tell
but then i guess they got off because some people use tournament mode but still there must be a way
Aim assist in chapter 2 season 1 be like
Also now: Non existant
@@vfamily4396 no i played on controller for the first time and if you have low sense and an smg its still there
@@Twongz_does_anything I just recently switched to kbm
Lmao love the usage of the modified Pokemon music you used my guy ✌️
Justicul i respect you a lot for your videos but dont you think that by making this type of video, you will give the zen more unwanted attention? At least for me, it sucks to see your friends genuinely talk about wanting to buy a zen so that they can better
I think we've reached a point where Zen is at the peak of its popularity, so I made this video to show those people that it won't make you a pro.
*also my bad I spelled your name wrong
@@Justicul reet became pro with the zen cause in chapter 1 he use to always place top 2,000 but when he got the zen in chapter 2 he started becoming pro
@@frostycarlos1435 reet was improving slowly with the zen he improved faster it didn't make him pro
@@frostycarlos1435 are you 1000% sure that he uses one , cause he literally destroyed half the lobby in that last lan tournament and he didn't have one
its nice to see your views back up bro
with the state of aim assist and limitations of controller compared to kbm, a controller player can’t keep up without a zen at the competitive level. almost every single controller pro most likely cheats.
Bruh what
Yeh hmm funny that, they still can’t beat kbm. Sounds like a skill issue
@@worked7815 kbm is amazing thoe I've been having fun with it and I recently switched to kbm this month
zen is overrated and no one is zenning no pros
name one on nae and eu i chill with the biggest controllers eu
@@unknowncomrade5023 yeh ikr, trying to convincce my controller friends (no luck)
Imagine the type of lawyers they have if they said "Older and impaired people can benefit from using Cronus Zen"
Bro exposing us zen users💀💀💀💀
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Was playing sports mode on GT7 today, thought I did pretty good - in qualifying, knocked 10 seconds off a track I did on a cafe menu, but was surprised that people were somehow 14 seconds faster…
Bit of a deep dive on the web, and now I’m “ah okay, that make sense now”
Yes its cheating 100% having a stickier aa or no recoil could literally be the millisecond difference between losing or winning a very close fight. Imagine a scenario where you could just run around and beam people and face no challenge or pressure in return. It's so dumb and you know what the worst thing about this is? :
Is that the people who are actually gifted at the game/s will never get the recognition because apparently they wouldn't be 'good enough'. I don't have a problem with people using if its intent is to make single player offline games easier. It's when they use it in a competitive setting especially with money on the line and for clout etc. I know for a fact that there are pro gamers who make mad $ using this and it's disgusting.
Not tryna be that guy but i am one of the rare ones who never cheated, i guarantee i would have made good $ cheating in tournaments on fortnite. but dignity is worth more then $. im older then most gamers but i still wreck it. 2.5-3kd on fort when i really gamed before i quit ranked top 20-25k in the world. why would i ruin peoples experience who are like me from cheating just to get a bag. i only play occasionally and me learning mouse and keyboard still makes me an excellent player because i always played legit.
also when you get to the top level of "pro" gaming, the smallest advantage is a mile. i have lost tons of gun fights from my aim being natural and im off by 1-2 shots where people i know who zen are beating me.
@@riggatonii I feel you man. I feel like the zen also gives the user more confidence because then aim one less thing to worry about. Knowing they can hit their shots, they can think more about positioning and everything else going on around them and that's literally a skill they get to freely build on.
I'm the same I don't cheat but I do use a scuf controller. I wouldn't consider that cheating though.
And yes about dignity and integrity.. I want to earn it on a level playing field though I've been tempted to join them but we'll see.
@@jjonlaw8140 D.J. the empire will fall, aid the rebellion.
Loving the content
of course, most people will say it won't make you any better or it's not like a aimbot, the fact is with this device you have access too many different scripts some that people pay for and then leak it for it to be free for all. it does matter on who made the script. I have seen scripts that locks to face automatic after ads . some scripts require settings to match in game in order to work or they will break in game and not work. there are useful scripts--for example a script that turns off the xmb button so kids can't mess with stuff but the game. but overall people use this for unfair advantage. there is a reason guns have recoil it should not be allowed it's no different from buying a 300$ modded controller , welcome to modern day gaming
The problem lies with how the device is used, there are legitimate uses for disabled users or even some of the more basic mapping functions like Steam Input does. However, some things like anti-recoil really should just not be there at all. So the company isn't entirely innocent, it should be marketed as an accesibility accessory not a gain an advantage accessory.
Justicul: link to buy a Zen in the description!
Me: *looks immediately in description* FINALLY, I CAN GET TO CHAMPS LEAGUE
Also me: damn I really wanted that *Zen*
Edit: I know a Zen is a dirty cheating device, it’s just a joke 😂
we all knew gaming was gonna die since ai and robots came into play theres no stopping this
It’s actually crazy good bro I own one
Ayo pause
@@worked7815 man I’m not ashamed good purchase
@@br4dp1tt33 Shoot I'ma get it too prolly haha. Not for cheating online of course. Those days are behind me. I just want better controls : )
I never know about this until today...
So right now if i ever died in any fps multiplayer games, i will suspect them using this f***ing zen..can't get my head around now
If your using somthing to help u , u should be using it fairly and not ruining , the game for others
my man justical with the banger vids
Very good video justicul was very confused about this but your video was very informative
I randomly watch this video and my tweet is in it 😂😂 at 3:52
This is peak content, it's so refreshing compared to all of the other fortnite content
watching this at 4am, fire bro keep em coming!
I didn't realize so many people do this. That's crazy.
Love the Cynthia battle theme in this video
A man of culture
6:54, ayeeee cynthia’s battle theme, leshhh gooo
Can officially say ive never stooped so low to buy one, if you have youre a rat
Love u Justicul! best fortnite vids out there
It's sad that almost all of the top ranked people on apex and likely other games are clearly all cheating in some way now. Even that Genburten guy is clearly cheating but people will simp for him and defend him, even though it's literally impossible to play the way he does
Tweet didn’t age well buddy he just won champs on LAN
Unfortunately very true. Online pvp shooters are in a very bad place, at least the big ones are.
Thx bro good vid 👍🏼
one of the first love you justicul UR the best
We could all sue them for emotional distress.
Or start a petition to get the product banned being sold by anyone and it offence if you caught try to sell it we as gamers have the power to make that happen
@@siontimmy1Stop crying. The creator of Cronus has been doing this for a very long time.
@@DrWiki-po1hk Sony and Microsoft can sue the fuck out Cronus Zen creator if they want the ban update it pretty much a mercy from them
@@siontimmy1They can't and they haven't because it's just an output device. Cronus has been doing this since Xbox 360 days.
Love these vids bro 🙌