The Great Salt Lake will dry up in 5 years unless Utah lawmakers act now

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  • Опубликовано: 10 окт 2024
  • A dire new report has sounded the alarm on the future of Utah's Great Salt Lake, which could vanish in as little as five years unless lawmakers in Utah take drastic action. Save Our Great Salt Lake cofounder and organizer Chandler Rosenberg joins TRNN Editor-in-Chief Maximillian Alvarez to explain the crisis facing Utah and what must be done to avert environmental and economic catastrophe.
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Комментарии • 137

  • @1Brant11
    @1Brant11 Год назад +21

    Meanwhile, in Utah, they're building more and more apartment complexes and car washes. Then there's the big business and lobbyists one example is golf lobbyists, SLC golf courses use 663 million gallons of water a year, that block common sense reform

    • @TheJagjr4450
      @TheJagjr4450 Год назад +4

      Meanwhile we hear of lake Mead's decling water levels WHILE AT THE SAME TIME communities in VEGAS are pumping BILLIONS of gallons into a man made WEALTHY communities lake's in the middle of Vegas, where it does nothing except evaporate.
      I have come to the conclusion, that as long as water is pumped into man made resort lakes, there is ZERO cause for alarm.

    • @utahgardenblogs
      @utahgardenblogs Год назад +3

      A typical single-family residential landscape uses 200,000 gallons of water per year with no generalized public benefit. There's plenty of room for nearly EVERYONE to conserve and save a substantial amount of water. The acres of golf course land vs. single-family residential in Salt Lake County is comparatively small. That's not to say I don't think we need to look at the number of golf courses (a declining sport) and decide if we need fewer of them in the future. I prefer more unmanicured open space with trails in lieu of some of the golf courses but you know if they get rid of golf courses the land would most likely be developed, making it all a moot point for conservation.

    • @cev12
      @cev12 Год назад +2

      No doubt to house the gazillions of illegal economic immigrants flooding in. To protect our environment, and to protect US labor/workers, illegal immigrants need to stay out.

  • @ruthrodgers2878
    @ruthrodgers2878 Год назад +15

    This conversation was happening 20 years ago. I remember seeing an exhibit by a local artist reflecting on the impact of migratory birds that had and would be harmed by the lose of the wetlands/lake back when they had proposed the plans for the legacy highway. But for those who know or care, we have long been quite privy to this ongoing destruction of Utah's ecosystems. It is a product of it's "culture" that has long used it's "righteous" stewardship as a deflection of accountability. The people of Utah are comfortably ignorant of it's policies that simply follow the model of all of America. Because it's been on a steady economic boom in the name of progress. Macmansions/big dumb lawns/scraping into mountains/paving over anything living. A culture of chain stores/box stores/parking lots/malls. The irony is that the real time witnessing of a prehistoric lake drying up to fatten the cattle slaughtered to feed the masses hamburgers is quite biblical. So... Yes. Utah is a dessert. And the precious water it has to offer it's fragile and thirsty inturn goes to sustain the beasts that replaced the buffalo. It is folks, just manifest destiny all over again. Be proud Utards of what you leave for your children to inhale and inherit

    • @anthonyrstrawbridge
      @anthonyrstrawbridge Год назад +1

      Interesting perspective. I hope they can just agree to save and protect a few key areas to ensure a healthy reseeding of the most significant ecosystem and micro ecosystems which sustain God's great creations.

    • @Em-df4ww
      @Em-df4ww Год назад +3

      People want their comforts and social status purchased with mcmansions and over manicured lawns. I have little patience anymore. Its teeth gnashing time now for all of us.

    • @otiscooper5487
      @otiscooper5487 Год назад

      Ĺ9

    • @anthonyrstrawbridge
      @anthonyrstrawbridge Год назад +1

      @@Em-df4ww Thanks for the heads up. Every time after to the gnashing I defer back to doing what is right and meditating gloriously. Here the assassins with full power and protection of paper soldiers with guns and badges call it, " Community Redevelopment". How do you remove those copious volumes of " Codes and Legislation", before they destroy everything. Just how.....it'll take a new army and new warfare me thinks. Quite frankly, there is no hope to be found in the lawyers or judges or young idealistic, " do what they told me to do" - boot licker's.

    • @Em-df4ww
      @Em-df4ww Год назад +2

      @@anthonyrstrawbridge I say teeth gnashing not even knowing the precise biblical reference but when feeling despair over what we humans have wrought -( we includes me, no fine is guilt free) the phrase comes to mind. Glad u get meditative glory, I still do too when away from civilization.

  • @dandebbieminert5712
    @dandebbieminert5712 Год назад +7

    Utah legislators will try to solve this by spending hundreds of millions of dollars on studies (awarded to their friends), then create laws that restrict individuals and families but don't impact developers, agriculture or the big money that own state leaders.

  • @jimbstars
    @jimbstars Год назад +3

    2020 Great Salt Lake -> 2023 Not So Great Salt Lake -> 2025 Saltier Lake -> 2030 Just Salt

    • @XX-121
      @XX-121 Год назад +1

      part of the agenda

  • @patrickgallagher6333
    @patrickgallagher6333 Год назад +5

    Homie can start doing something himself by not flying over the Colorado river. Spare me from folks experiencing cimate despair while sitting on airliners.

  • @valnanney
    @valnanney Год назад +3

    Having lived in the Salt Lake Valley over 20 years, I very much appreciate you bringing national attention to this issue. Thanks, Max!

  • @campkohler9131
    @campkohler9131 Год назад +3

    It just means that the area under the lake will look like the rest of Utah.

  • @nunayabznus9158
    @nunayabznus9158 Год назад +9

    I live in Utah. It is a desert. The idea that we are using a bunch of water for agriculture is mindboggling. We shouldn't be growing so many water hungry crops here and exporting it. It's a desert. Farmers need to find something else to do. It's a desert. We have a lot of other exports from our great state, and exporting water rich agriculture products is completely idiotic. Most other things we use water for wouldn't be a big deal if it weren't for the wasteful agriculture. Let's take care of the low hanging fruit on this one, shall we? Even keeping golf course lawns green (another ridiculous practice) is a miniscule issue compared to the useless water wasting agriculture that exists here.

    • @chrisccc22
      @chrisccc22 Год назад +2

      IF the Mormons would let go of their control over the state, it would be a prime location to grow weed.

    • @greglamothe5942
      @greglamothe5942 Год назад +1

      Agriculture is the most important resource for mankind its fresh water contributing to the the lake that's the concern the lake is saltwater the Earth is abundant with saltwater of what use is it in Utah other than just a micro ecosystem that's been drying up for like a million years there's hardly anything left of it without the Man's footprint

    • @nunayabznus9158
      @nunayabznus9158 Год назад +2

      @@greglamothe5942 That's kind of the point of this video. The Great Salt Lake is not, as you seem to think, a "micro ecosystem". It is a major ecosystem that has significant effects on the entire continent. The agriculture that uses 80% of the fresh water that would otherwise be largely draining into the Great Salt Lake could more efficiently and effectively be grown in a place that isn't a desert. Utah is a desert, and it should be treated as a desert by those wishing to grow water hungry crops. You don't grow alfalfa in the Sahara, and you should find another place to grow it than in Utah.

    • @danielvonbose557
      @danielvonbose557 4 месяца назад

      ​@@nunayabznus9158Absolutely!!! Alfalfa is the biggest problem, but it is not limited to alfalfa.

  • @henrythomas2547
    @henrythomas2547 Год назад +5

    Salt Lake City will now be called City !
    🤘😆🤘❗

    • @d-no6394
      @d-no6394 Год назад

      Here in southern Idaho, a lot of us call it "Salt Lick City."

    • @bdennisv
      @bdennisv Год назад +1

      Or Salt Dust City

  • @chops0075
    @chops0075 Год назад +5

    The Salton Sea is facing a similar fate, including the toxic dust storms.

  • @greglamothe5942
    @greglamothe5942 Год назад +2

    There is far more important drought issues in the West that's freshwater Lake Powell and Lake Mead if we're going to have a pipeline from the ocean it needs to be desalinated

  • @marvinmartian5132
    @marvinmartian5132 Год назад +2

    Greed! Greed! Greed! follow the damn money!

  • @Alberto-or7js
    @Alberto-or7js Год назад +4

    Serious question, why would a water pipeline from the Pacific Ocean not be a feasible solution. Haven’t longer pipelines been built before ?

    • @greglamothe5942
      @greglamothe5942 Год назад +6

      Not worth it for one small ecosystem it's fresh waters what we need to sustain agricultural and essential domestic needs saving the lake not going to help reverse climate change. Water from the Pacific Ocean would be of a different pH and amount of salt and minerals so wouldn't match the lake anyway

    • @foipa1
      @foipa1 Год назад +2

      Not enough money in it yet. Oil and gas are on! Lol what if the pipes leak or break? Lol

    • @patrickgallagher6333
      @patrickgallagher6333 Год назад +1

      Figure out the carbon footprint of that construction project and then the energy required to move that much water that far and then get back to us on how that's gonna help stop climate consequences like this.
      Also, folks could look at it but birds will die anyway.
      So count on that getting done cause there's huge profit in infrastructure construction and capitalists don't care about birds - or human - anyway.

    • @Kayluv101
      @Kayluv101 Год назад +1

      Why don’t they just build a pipe line from the snake river to the Lake?? The snake river has 40million acre feet of water the salt lake has 30million...They could use the river to replenish the lake in two summers..Also they could keep fish from entering the lake and run the water through a plant to cleanse it before it goes into the lake..

    • @mochiebellina8190
      @mochiebellina8190 Год назад

      not over mountains

  • @MooseBme
    @MooseBme Год назад +1

    Lip-service, countless dollars and time spent for research, death, repeate!

  • @bdennisv
    @bdennisv Год назад

    Why not to start from rising water prices and limiting water usage for those farmers who sell their product outside of the state? This should not spill on farmers who sells locally.
    In the same time the rule ‘use it or loose it’ should be converted to more conservative use in correlation with projected demand.
    I have seen, in multiple occasions that farmers sprayed fields in the middle of nowhere non stop with nothing on it, just wild fields. They dying this just to hold on to their water rights, disregarding ecological or economical sense ((
    Good lack!

  • @slcshaman
    @slcshaman 6 месяцев назад

    Get active!

  • @danielvonbose557
    @danielvonbose557 4 месяца назад

    You said ag uses 80% industry 7%. What would it look like if ag cur their water usage 90%?

  • @DougGrinbergs
    @DougGrinbergs Год назад

    Hey, decent remote interview audio; appreciated.

  • @DanStMary
    @DanStMary Год назад +1

    15 inch of water snowpack on the ground now

  • @nevamo7820
    @nevamo7820 Год назад

    I wonder how much lithium is in that lake. Maybe this should be addressed immediately.

  • @amazingxl.5308
    @amazingxl.5308 Год назад

    We are going from disaster to disaster

  • @greghoff1359
    @greghoff1359 Год назад +11

    Utah deserves what they get. That goes for Arizona too. Let’s build 100,000 new homes in the desert. Maybe john smith will fill the lake.

    • @chrisccc22
      @chrisccc22 Год назад

      Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb!

  • @randyb3347
    @randyb3347 Год назад

    The Great Salt Lake drying up and blowing away creating a health catastrophe. Well, that's just the fun part. Wait till Lake Meade hits dead pool in a few years. Then you're gonna see the $hit hit the fan.

  • @stevenmanley2817
    @stevenmanley2817 Год назад +6

    California could just build water purification plants and purify the oceans water and that’ll solve a huge portion of the issue because Cali always uses more water than they’re allowed and nobody is doing anything about it.

    • @freeisalwaysme
      @freeisalwaysme Год назад +1

      This has nothing to do with Cali.

    • @stevenmanley2817
      @stevenmanley2817 Год назад +1

      @@freeisalwaysme at this time Cali is the only one who wouldn’t sign a bill cutting use to the river. So yes it does have something to do with Cali.
      The solution I posted is so simple but yet you’d rather argue over who’s fault it is.

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz Год назад +2

      That's not viable, you don't realize the massive energy demands of such techno-infatuation.

    • @TheDavidlloydjones
      @TheDavidlloydjones Год назад +2

      @@stevenmanley2817
      Um, you understand that California is downstream from Utah, I trust, Steven?

    • @stevenmanley2817
      @stevenmanley2817 Год назад +1

      @@TheDavidlloydjones my bad I was thinking of the Colorado.

  • @chigger68
    @chigger68 Год назад

    Climate is not causing anything.

  • @spacecase6825
    @spacecase6825 9 месяцев назад

    we need water trains that follow their tanks with pacific ocean water. there are trax along the shore of the lake and even in the middle.

  • @tyitinanot6130
    @tyitinanot6130 Год назад

    ah the optimism of youth. I feel terrible for this bright young lady having to specialize in such a no win situation with a smile. SLC is the 7th fastest growing city in U.S. last several years avg. +12K new arrivals currently around 600,000 mormons and that many more other lakers. Why people continue to move to areas undergoing desertification no good guess. 80% of their "cheap" water goes to agriculture which is split 70% meat production 30% farmland. The 30% farmland corn and alfalfa (largely for the cattle) requires water a plenty as do the cows and piggies. I read somewhere 1,800 gallons per pound of beef. 2021 numbers 1,100,000 cattle (avg 1,400 lbs.) and another million hogs (avg 280 lbs.) outstanding math problem for someone. The once great salt lake is now 75% dried up a la Lakes Mead and Powell. Politicians want #1 a 700 mile corrosive salt pipeline from the Pacific ocean to fill 'er back up #2 a 30% to 50% reduction of use over the next 2 years laughable #3 ignore there's a problem #4 prayers to Elohim. They are predicting 2028 big dust bowl I will say sooner than that since max depth is only 33 feet. At least Mead is 500 at it's deepest shaped like a martini glass unlike GSL more like a big salty puddle. Salton sea times 5. Damn shame I remember when I was quite young couldn't swim yet but I could float on my back very cool but that was long ago.

  • @amazingxl.5308
    @amazingxl.5308 Год назад

    The LDS church needs to step in and ad some 20 billion dollars. With us only like 6% of all their money to save the lake. After all they founded this state and city as the promise land. So they should step in. After they are the richest city in the world

  • @patriot9455
    @patriot9455 Год назад

    the toxic dust is just a beginning.

  • @cev12
    @cev12 Год назад

    Why have a reporter on to cover a scientific issue? Wouldn't it make more sense to go straight to the scientists?

  • @charlesandrews2419
    @charlesandrews2419 Год назад +3

    Save the lake. Water rights need to belong to the people.

    • @TheDavidlloydjones
      @TheDavidlloydjones Год назад +1

      Um, do you know why it's called The Great Salt Lake, Charles?
      I'll give you a hint: there ain't no drinkin' water in there.

    • @greglamothe5942
      @greglamothe5942 Год назад

      Water rights do belong to the people top of the chain is agriculture

  • @JoyfullyGrumpy
    @JoyfullyGrumpy Год назад +3

    I enjoyed this discussion, but your channel is not "news," You are chatting, making comments that are personal, and interjecting your opinions. You are no different in format than CNN, FOX, etc. who are also just commentary shows. Like your channel, just wish you'd rename it.

    • @ryancouture1436
      @ryancouture1436 Год назад

      Dumb. wouldn't a rose by any other name still smell so sweet? ...or whatever. It probably says something about your sense of self that you think you own the word "News"...

    • @JoyfullyGrumpy
      @JoyfullyGrumpy Год назад

      @@ryancouture1436 Not dumb. Its about definitions. There was a time when a true "news" channel would never comment on the news they delivered without declaring it a commentary. Nowadays, they are all commentators. Nothing personal, just a fact. But yah, I guess you could find that old fashioned. I was raised when you could rely on news to be just the facts and you were allowed to make up your own mind about things. Kinda sad that has suddenly died out and now we have people who allow themselves, in fact expect, to be spoon fed their opinions. I believe only hearing what you already have been told to believe is a way to avoid the joys and disappointments of personal growth. Just my opinion of course.

  • @YouCanNOTvoteOutFascism
    @YouCanNOTvoteOutFascism Год назад +4

    #CapitalismKills

  • @low-phas
    @low-phas Год назад

    Aral Sea re-loaded...

  • @amazingxl.5308
    @amazingxl.5308 Год назад

    Every time bigger disaster

  • @crackeronapier8056
    @crackeronapier8056 Год назад +4

    A salt lake is just leftover flood water from 12,800 years ago

  • @heenanyou
    @heenanyou Год назад

    Twitchy.

  • @abrahamsoto2297
    @abrahamsoto2297 Год назад

    This proves that the only way to save this lake is through expensive desalination from the ocean 🌊 to this lake yes, it’s expensive but realistically there’s no other way to do this climate change has really taken its toll on the lake. Environmentalist need to come to the reality that this is a perfect world 🌎 and there’s no real way to stop climate change

  • @jimrobcoyle
    @jimrobcoyle Год назад +5

    In five years you will be paranoid of the Great Salt Lake flooding.
    #Aloha

  • @owensthilaire8189
    @owensthilaire8189 Год назад +1

    I love how living in or on the edge of a desert people experience a drought and start blaming ' climate change '.

    • @rockymntain
      @rockymntain Год назад +1

      Exactly. The entire Western US has been in a severe drought cycle. The people that use the water in the ag industry lawfully own the water rights. You cannot take their property without due process. Many of them have reduced their acreage due to the fact that the water is just not there. Much of the water is pumped from the ground, so the water they are using is not coming from the rivers that flow into the lake.

    • @owensthilaire8189
      @owensthilaire8189 Год назад

      @@rockymntain Yes. I do not believe that the people living through this are the complainers.
      I believe theat who ever is behind the media/ owned government are pushing this BS narrative.
      Any body that has farmed for a decade or so can't help but be an actual environmentalist.

    • @heidenburg5445
      @heidenburg5445 Год назад

      Everyone here has to drive their own cars to bullshit jobs that keep everyone busy while our system shaped by the 1% destroys our environment. The air is so thick you can chew on it during the winter. You dont know what the fuck you're talking about because capitalism has rotted your brain beyond belief.

    • @heidenburg5445
      @heidenburg5445 Год назад

      @@rockymntain Your laws wont mean much anymore when you dont have drinking water left. Future generations will look at your comment with disgust if they are even able to exist.

    • @owensthilaire8189
      @owensthilaire8189 Год назад

      @@heidenburg5445 Funny. Do you suppose that drought in the 1800's were caused by climate change?
      Do you suppose hurricanes and tornadoes in 1800's were caused by climate change?
      Do you suppose restrictions on the general public is going to make any difference in the climate when giant multinationals and industrializing nations like India and China continue business as usual?
      Do leftists and climate alarmists ever read books?

  • @vladluteen2299
    @vladluteen2299 Год назад +1

    Very good point on the water subsidizing from property taxes. That should stop ASAP. We should pay for the water we use not socialize the cost.

  • @BigPoppieSeed
    @BigPoppieSeed Год назад

    Or five month's

    • @TheDavidlloydjones
      @TheDavidlloydjones Год назад

      If there are five of them, you want the apostrophe after the S.
      Five months' what?

  • @kaywonderer
    @kaywonderer Год назад +3

    Yea what you expect when half of population takes 30min showers.

    • @freeisalwaysme
      @freeisalwaysme Год назад +3

      I guess you miss the part where 80,% is used by big AG

    • @kaywonderer
      @kaywonderer Год назад

      @@freeisalwaysme So what? That means we have even less. Drinking water is being wasted.

    • @redfordreddington8834
      @redfordreddington8834 Год назад

      has nothing to do with it

    • @freeisalwaysme
      @freeisalwaysme Год назад

      @@kaywonderer yeah by big AG.

    • @kaywonderer
      @kaywonderer Год назад

      @@freeisalwaysme AG uses 80% but are they wasting the water or the person taking 30min shower is wasting?

  • @dimitristsagdis7340
    @dimitristsagdis7340 Год назад +1

    Massive hose all the way to the Pacific and start desalinating and pumping sea water using renewable energy. Its only 800 miles and I'm not advocating carrying as is but you need a solution yesterday. And what you are talking about isn't happening any time soon.

    • @Roboticdoughbull3k
      @Roboticdoughbull3k Год назад

      Isn't this the one local elite are pumping out to fill their private gated community lake? Oh no that's lake Mead nevermind.

    • @freeisalwaysme
      @freeisalwaysme Год назад

      This is the same non sense of people wanting to pipe water from the Mississippi to the west. They must have missed the low water levels reports about the Mississippi last year.

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz Год назад

      That's not viable.

    • @dimitristsagdis7340
      @dimitristsagdis7340 Год назад

      @@LuisAldamiz Why?

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz Год назад +2

      @@dimitristsagdis7340 - First of all energy costs: you can't pump water through maybe a thousand miles uphill across the mountains without paying a hefty cost in terms of energy and thus also money, pollution, global warming, etc.
      The logical thing to do would be to cut the abusive irrigation and let the system return to something close to natural state. Sadly we see over and over that the short termist monetary "economy" trumps ecology, very similar examples are the Sea of Aral (which foreshadowed the collapse of the USSR but remains unsolved after that anyhow) or the Spanish National Park of Doñana, one of the largest wetlands in Europe, which is dying as we speak because of (mostly illegal but tolerated) extraction of groundwater for growing strawberries for export to Northern Europe. Pink flamingos no more...

  • @leonrussell9444
    @leonrussell9444 Год назад

    May the prophecies be fulfilled.
    AMEN

  • @annielillian19
    @annielillian19 Год назад

    Daddy

  • @annielillian19
    @annielillian19 Год назад

    1

  • @anonymoussource701
    @anonymoussource701 Год назад

    Move