Where and how can i learn more about this? Stumbled on a thread about it on voat Tonight and am extremely curious to learn more about gpt-3 and more proof of concept.
The part about fetishization of "update for the sake of update" above logic and user comfort is spot on. The most recent Facebook layout update for PC comes to mind especially.
I never update my iPhone. Partially not caring, partially paranoid since Apple was caught slowing old models down purposefully with them. I don't trust apple. We are headed towards the grim reality of AI's allure of granting us Godhood. Eve took from the Tree of Knowledge to become more like God. She took the apple. Semi convinced Steve Jobs was self-aware with this little cute naming. Apple may just be the next Apple. We'll repeat the Original Sin.
This is exactly why my mother hates technology. She feels she can never learn it because it's always changing just after she figures it out. I can't wait to watch this with her.
@@bobdole27 Its not progress for the sake of progress. Its middle managers try to advance their careers, throwing spaghetti at a wall until something sticks and hoping for recognition.
I personally see it as the “quiet internet” the real/living part is us, things created by the individual, then there’s the loud internet, ads, bots, algorithms etc etc. There’s still a lot of us but it’s overshadowed by the “machines” but eventually, the dead internet theory will be true and even sadder, once we get far enough most RUclips comments will be bots and eventually all of them
The average user doesn’t produce any content it is in a more passive/consumeristic stance, that’s why you only see a fraction of your friends/subscribed users content on social media. Fear of being rediculed, exposed creates a sense of restraint over our posting habits
on a much smaller (and less important scale) idk if anyone here remembers Yahoo chat as a teen in the late 90s - mid 2000s/aughts, more and more bots started appearing until eventually 99% was all bots
I just recently finished an information systems course that was taught by a dude that didn't really understand how the internet works anymore, mainly basing the course on systems that died over a decade ago. It was interesting to hear him explain how the internet and information might "advance" in the future, knowing that he probably wrote his lectures 15 years ago. The net has been cannibalized for the sake of convenience, and I wonder where exactly the logical conclusion to all this ends up.
I can see 5 "megalopolis" sites, maybe 6. But one for socials, one for government, one for health, one for education, and one for entertainment. Totally curated by AI and controled BY the creators of said AI, the highest bidder, and possibly a 1 government. Idfk im just spitballing, i grew up on web 1.0, web 2.0 was a flash in the pan (apprently were still in it? Doesnt feel like it), and web 3.0 is horrifyingly empy. Web 4.0 is going to be... interesting
One example of this: I remember when google stole the internet by leveraging ''convenience'' and then using rich snippets to basically make all internet yield information to them. Now the website that used to be frequented to find information in gives the information up for free to google with a chance to be favored in positions, but 99% of the people who use the information get it on Google results on top, without ever even visiting the website where this information is. They give props to google, without giving props to the authors.
"Then he must no longer be referred to as Number Six or a number of any kind. He has gloriously vindicated the right of the individual to be individual... and this assembly rises to you... Sir."
When I was a kid, the internet always fascinated me. It seemed like an infinite source of human creativity and expression. Every page, as simple or straightforward as they were, felt like a sneak peek into someone's unique mind or personality. Nowadays the vast majority of everything online circles around a half dozen giant corporate websites with standardized layouts and highly moderated content.
But if you dig, it's all still there, we just dont have the time to spend to explore because we salve our lives to these same tech giants.. keeping up with what we blindly believe is the hollow social remains of what we once loved has now become.
Ok, who’s stopping you from just going and making your own website then, and hosting whatever sort of unmoderated content and genuine discussion you want? Oh, right, nobody is. But you probably wouldnt bother to make that site, because you know that nobody would choose to use it over the big corporate moderated sites that you hate (for example, the site we’re on right now) There’s no conspiracy to it. Billy Bob Joe can’t make a better website that works as a superior alternative to Reddit, so nobody goes to Billy bob’s site, and it shuts down. You can miss the Wild West internet of the early 00s but we got here because people chose what they wanted. They will keep choosing what they want. And unless you can make a super duper good site that steals actual numbers from the big sites, or the US hits them with antitrust, this is how it’s gonna be.
This is a really silly take. Capitalism inevitably tends towards monopolies, it’s like saying “Why do people use Amazon rather than go to their local store?” A lot of the local stores have been ruthlessly driven out of business by Amazon’s rapacious practices. So why do people use social media? Because Silicon Valley created a series of extremely addictive platforms that utilize gambling psychology to fuel scrolling. It’s not that the content is superior to visiting a unique, customized website…it’s just what is presented to people.
I think the internet died when it became mainstream, around the time smartphones became publicly available. Prior to this the internet, computers, and geek culture as a whole was the realm of nerds, who were often looked down upon or at least seen unfavorably. Once everyone, even your grandma, began using the Internet, corporations moved in, bought everything or made replacements for everything, thus monopolizing it, sanitized it, and then monetized it, leading to the "dead" feeling of nowadays internet. I mean 10 years ago I had a ton of forums I used to browse, nowadays all but one are dead, and all those people either moved on or flocked to Reddit.
Exactly. And this phenomenon seems to impact all aspects of human life. If we consider when anything becomes mainstream, it seems to die/loses its creative or living aspects. Zombies ruin everything. Movies, video games, music, literature, science, religion, spirituality...pretty much everything. Seems like all those zombie/vampire apocalypse stories were trying to tell us something.
i think you're onto something here! the internet used to be a place you'd have to *go* to (eg "i'm going to turn on the computer and go online"), but because of phones, the internet has become our permanent residence. edited to add: and because of the prevalence of phone-based internet instead of computer-based internet, websites that developed phone apps were able to survive, whereas those that still depended on being a website wasted away because mobile browsing feels bad.
Yeah the internet was for people like us. The normies ruined it and their own lives. They were happier without the internet now they’re all depressed. Now we’re depressed because they’ve taken the internet from us and we have nowhere to go
A lot of us feel this, but can’t quite put our finger on that feeling. Or we’re just afraid to name it. Almost everyday I think to myself “wow, I only know 4 websites now”
Another scary thing is, I need to type "Reddit" at the end of my Google search keywords if i want actual opinions otherwise its just the same regurgitated groupthink that Google "curates" for us to see for 3000 pages.
It's important to point out that the internet we are seeing is only the anglosphere internet. There's an equally huge Spanish/Portugese/Russian/Chinese/Hindi spreaking internet that we do not see. This should be factored in when talking about "the internet" feeling empty.
It's addressed in the last few minutes of the video that the internet being empty is NOT an anglosphere-only issue, and I have to agree. I'm on the Japanese-speaking side of the web a lot and it's filled with so much garbage now (a good chunk of which is obviously auto-translated "articles" and "comments" from other languages).
The Emptiness is relative not about absolute size. the factor of their appearing to be much less activity than the space could support his true across any of the specific demographic niches of the internet
Dude I've got a theory that's very similar to this, it all started about 5 or 6 years ago, I was trying to fix an obscure high end 80s stereo and I needed a service manual for circuit diagrams. Well in the days of the living internet it would be really simple search and download link.. well all the sudden my search results had nothing but page after page of online retailers who's whole business were obscure electronics service manuals. 1000s of these sites. Suffice to say, algorithms were creating these sites on the fly and effectively hiding any links to free downloads..since that initial incident it's expanded in all sorts of directions and it follows cery closely to this theory..
Maybe when yt dies officially someone can use an algo to verify humans.exploitable yes but if its hard most wont try.Btw i mean there are things humans can think algos can't and someone can exploit this to verify humans.
omfg, paysites/paywalls. snippets of information, only to find its a uni or some crap demanding you log in, sign up, take a course. i still hang on to links to articles i found way back in 99... because searching them is nigh on impossible. theyre there... hidden. by pay sites. i personally saw it dying as soon as online shopping took off. as soon as government services like tax moved online rather than paper. went from being a playground to a business park. everything interesting and familiar torn down and replaced with over inflated tawdry crap with lots of corners to get lost in with no signs that all looks tired and dirty after a year or two. strange how the internet looks just like outdoors now... one or two big businesses full steam ahead, and all the little shops lying empty and derelict, a few struggling on...
Bots existed in chats. They were called chat-bots. Simply a loop of comments. Loop a software is one of the simplest thing to make as it solve many problems of software stop running.
I remember when I was on a thread on 8/k/ once and someone responded with something like "What the Hell?" and posted a link to a forum. It was some old random gun forum from years ago, but it was the exact same thread and exact same 30 replies were copied from there and posted on the thread on /k/. Very strange.
@pippin Nobody goes to /po/ on purpose. The week of April 1st on 4chan, when they made /mlpol/ for an entire week...shills vanished. All the automated traffic in two boards simply ceased functioning, and pure autism was unleashed. Good times.
@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 I think it only seems like it’s for obscurity’s sake from the outside, the people who made those pages weren’t being edgy or quirky (like everyone on the internet today)
It seems like the Internet, such as we experience it now, passed through its "big bang" phase - full of close and somewhat chaotic interconnected sites and servers, etc. into larger formations of "galaxies" or stellar systems. There is still lots of complex interactions happening but - as with the physical universe - there is ever more emptiness between all things.
Sorry but the universe is fully connected. What is really matter composed of? Electromagnetic energy.. #wave-corpuscle duality , then add resonance... 3 6 9 nikola tesla vortex math!
I remember a time when everyone would come home from school, get on Myspace, MSN Messenger, and talk. Now that everyone has smart phones in their pockets that light up when someone messages mean that few people are "on the internet" for long hours like they once were, aside from scrolling tik toks during downtime at work. I've definitely seen the same people in different corners of the internet many times and thought "small world." Sometimes I pop onto Omegle to try to relive the good old days of typing at a computer, but "The Inversion" seems to have definitely occurred there, spamming genuine users with CAPTCHAs while the majority of connections made are bots.
I remember those days spending hours on my desktop jumping from MySpace, aim, old RUclips, yahoo answers, Starcraft, gamefaqs, rpgamer, and some website where I downloaded music whose name I can’t even remember.
I'm pretty sure it's intentional. I'll put my phone down during the day and I'll get no notifications, but the moment I put it down to sleep at 11/12/1/2/3 IT ALWAYS VIBRATES over a notification I got a few hours ago. This people is why my phone is on silent, because Google notifications are horrible.
You're spot on on Reddit, it used to be a niche place for rationality and fair idea exchange, then it turned into a cesspool of ignorance and malice where stating facts gets you downvoted but if you meme around you rise to the top. It's a lucid miror image of how masses think and act.
You say that, but I'm STILL pretty sure Reddit got that one guy killed during the Boston Bombings. Reddit was always a hellhole, and there's still a ton of pedo apologia.
@@romanfan250redditors are typically neckbeard/purple haired losers in real life with no power and influence. Downvoting dissent in their echo chambers creates a very real sense of purpose and power for them.
the use of the term brain drain in the context of the web is really apt. it's very useful to think of it that way. I find myself trying to go back to forums and stuff but theyre so much emptier than they used to be.
At around 7:40 you fall into a young-person’s trap. 2006 is not pre social media. MySpace was one of the largest companies in the world at the time. That was the Web 2.0 era. Social media was very much already a presence.
@@notthemama7296 Very true, I'm over 30 and there was social media before MySpace even. I think this theory may have some credence but social media has been a thing for a long time.
As soon as we had online databases (Prodigy, Compuserve, etc.) we essentially had the Ur examples of Web 1.0, Web 2.0, and whatever the hell Web 3.0. will be. Look at early AOL commercials: they touted that they could deliver news, access to encyclopedic knowledge, connections with a global userbase, and above all shopping. The internet has almost always had a social element yoked to commercialism once they realized money could be made.
@@Aliyah_666 There was social media before the internet. BBS's, Usenet, dial-in PANs, accoustic-modem-party-lines... even the early internet had ICQ, IRC, (Slack and Discord), Friendster, meebo, AOL Villages, CompuservLocal, etc. Social media goes waaaaaay before the 2000's.
Even if 15% is Bot generated this “theory” is totally true. With 15% of “specific interactions” you can totally manipulate the majority of consumers or society.
You can manipulate certain parts of society on occasion but it's hardly foolproof. Western societies in particular are hard to manipulate on a wide scale due to some unique quirks of Western culture.
The part about digital brain drain was kinda sad to me, because some of my favorite parts of the internet are in the digital countryside and every day i fear that they will be integrated with some tech gaint, forgotten or just deleted :(
That's essentially the same scenario I speculated since I was 14. Every niche entertainment I enjoyed then would either fade into obscurity or get cannibalized by tech giants promptly to get wiped by some family-friendly policy soon after.
When the internet was new (to me) it seemed very exciting and full of content. I couldn't wait to get on it and 'surf around' which I took to mean using the links at the bottom of the pages to get to more content. Nowadays there is little or no information on pages. Wiki is pretty in depth and sometimes i wonder who has the time to enter all these details but other than that most pages are just a thin veneer of gloss and not much underneath. It's like instead of getting an encyclopedia brittania we are just getting a woman's magazine.
These titles is the reason why I'm subscribed, in a RUclips where all the famous mysteries are covered and resolved, you take the most obscure and unthinkable things ever that makes me glue my eyes to the very end. Never stop, or rather don't stop being interesting
This theory is so terrifying because even IF it’s untrue at this moment, a handful of years down the line, it won’t be. I would love to hear your take on the ego death of the internet
I started using the www in 1994. I have noticed that it has become totally dull. Now, I rarely use it anymore, I usually just go Amazon. Or a government site if I need to renew my driver's license or whatever). Similarly, I started using social media from, the start. I immediately found social media to be full of opinions and negativity (but very profitable).....boring. Last, btw, I only find myself using messaging apps on my phone and youtube when i am bored. Your vid explains why i no longer find the web interesting. Now I know! Thx
Good video, I do believe that the internet has become very empty in terms of content and even interaction so I agree with your term "Labotomized" because it just feels like there should be more. I remember so much outrage when google+ became a thing and then the norm which gave me a dread of how the future for social media would be like, which I guess was right then.
Don't forget the Twitter/Reddit protests that lead nowhere with users crawling back because they feel lost without it. When a megacorporation becomes a dependency, it's over... They won.
With things like ChatGpt or GPT3 in general, I figured this could be happening, and programs like that have only shown proof of concept. A guy recently made a script that was used to make posts on /pol, and many people couldn't tell and thought it was a group of people. He wasn't even being very stealthy or trying hard to make it not obvious. I could see institutions taking something like this and having it crawl the web and do the same on a mass scale. Really not that far-fetched.
I've witnessed Russian bots dump many different points to look convincing, but their biggest flaw is being dismissive. Whataboutisms, fact dismissal, semantics, strawmanning and bringing up US atrocities is par for the course (although that last one is more likely to be brought up by humans than bots).
Less frightening and more sad. It's not some malicous trap by a shadow government, just a natural trend of humanity to side with convenience over creativity.
@@metalgear6531 Not sure if anybody caught it but in 2010ish the Middle East had several revolutions and the government got paranoid as laptops and cell phones were used to organize the violent overthrows of several governments.
This should be the final point made in this video, because although this theory is suspiciously accurate, that doesn’t change our ability to interact with others in a meaningful way.
I’d say the internet is dead now in the way shopping at Walmart feels dead compared to shopping at a variety of independently owned stores. It’s a convenient one stop shop but missing uniqueness and the human element, which translates to being, well, boring.
I'm always surprised that there are so many people, and the internet is open to everyone, yet no matter where I go there's such a countable number of people. I suppose this is part of the bigger realization that the world you hear about is the world that's actually out there happening, you can just go step out and be a part of it. Talk to the people you see online, go be a part of that group of people that are being talked about.
part of me wonders if their really is 7 billion people on earth. It really is baffling to think if their is that many people on earth, the internet like you said is open to anyone, the vast majority of people have internet capable phones or computers yet even the most popular youtubers get at most a few million views per video excluding the odd viral sensation. And as Pseudoim is laying out in this video alot of is fake bot views/accounts etc. Even porn videos, which like it or not will appeal to unwashed masses still has the same top range of a few million views at most. Something feels so artificial about it all.
Hanging out on that one forum ive been on since like 2008ish is deperssing it feels like a retirement home where the few active users left are just waiting around for eachother to die and half the active users seem like they are just people argueing with their own alts. Reddit is alive and kicking though...
There was a story on the news a few years ago where they talked about how p.c. and Mac would pull up searches on the same thing if related to selling stuff for stores and such. What they figured out was that mac would pull up the same content yet for a higher price than the same search did on p.c.. kinda supports the theory in the video.
came into this thinking the "empty internet" was a crazy conspiracy theory, came out knowing one hell of a lot more about the internet and how it works. great video 🙏
One thing I've found very attention-grabbing to me the last few years is when I seem to stumble into "dead zones" of the internet that are obvious that they are dead zones and how "alive" they can feel in comparison to the usual avenues were escorted through by algorithms. Spotify is NOT a place to find new music on, its hard to even listen to a variety of music in you own playlists(remember a few years ago when people started noticing the algorithmically augmented shuffle function that not play songs at random and even omitted songs from the full runtime of your playlist). Meanwhile when I start following related videos on music videos on youtube and quickly end up in the wastelands of automatically generated youtube music profiles I end up finding SO MANY artists new to me that I find beautiful. Catalogs of artists will be uploaded and there no commenting function and the videos usually have 20-200 views. I've felt excitement stumbling on new artists in a way I haven't felt since my early teens and finding new acts through word of mouth on places like tumblr.
RUclips is truly superior for finding obscure artists. Back then, internet cafes are so widespread in my country, so a broke ass girl like me could play with a pc and find some less known songs. Now it's all gone and I'm still broke and can't afford a pc. All I have is the shitty youtube app that can't be played in the background unless I pay for premium. Hell fucking nah. Same with spotify. I swear every app locks things behind paywall nowadays.
I had this same kind of theory a few years ago but I focused it down to boredom. The novelty and the fun of the internet is gone. It's been completely commercialized and domesticated. The spirit is lost. And the apathy is a reaction to it.
every time I look at the comments/replies on a WWE tweet, every single checkmark is just people going “wow” “amazing” “so cool” sometimes it’s the same person tweeting them. I’m convinced those are actual, literal bots.
WWE and other sports forums are the worst for bots. Also politics. I can’t tell you how many times I have seen the same generic comments on WWE pages, worded the exact way, same punctuation and grammar. On the plus side, it’s a great time to be a wrestling fan!
Also recommend you read the collected posts I linked under the sources if you're curious for some more. I tried to trim the fat a little bit because it gets lost the weeds of 4chan conspiracy posting. Some people like that though. There's a few interesting side ancedoes I ignored because I was more interested in the base theory.
That's what you get with tech that was created by the military industrial complex. It was made to exploit, at the whim of capital at every turn. (Great video btw)
I was going to feature some DARPA footage/interviews in the background, but it didn't work while I was producing the video. So I removed those. I was totally aware someone was going to bring it up though (its basically true).
@@Pseudiom If you think it's up your alley I'd recommend Yasha Levine's Surveillance Valley. It's a great book on the history of the internet that doesn't devolve into hagiography as much as a lot of other internet histories do.
Will 100% take a look eventually. Planning on doing an expansive series on the Internet in general after I get a few longer projects done this/next year.
🤦🏻♂️ Jesus Christ, dude. Every comment I've seen from you on this video makes it sound like you've browsed the Wikipedia article on Marxism and decided that's all you need to know about the world.
When internet was accessible to a few people who could afford a PC, it was the best- no ads, creative, mysterious. One night of browsing per week felt amazing. Now it feels like you are sucked into an empty useless void.
"Scanning" isn't a bad thing, it's actually a sign of reading proficiency. If you learn a new language you'll likely be reading every letter to make out a word, but as you get better you realize that you just look at the shape of a word and know "oh that means bird in english".
Now THIS is why i like this channel. I've genuinely never heard this theory, and that's something i can say about most of the content posted. Keep it up!
@4:16 A friend and I real talk invented raptor jesus at lunch in school back in the day. Originally it was just an inside joke thing until I made a YTMND about it that got really popular. It's so wild still hearing about it 20 years later.
I love how this is slowly becoming our reality. It used to sound like a creepypasta theory to give you spooky existential dread.. Now you just look at news in AI and thr algorithm, look at the current state of social media, and the internet is slowly dying.
The original post has some wildly out of pocket stuff like this, and I wouldn’t cite it, but I think there’s definitely something to be said for the number of bots and now AI generated content on the web these days. And the overall sanitisation of the net.
Is kind of a reflection of the real world. Most people will die without doing 'something' with their lives. And from the ones that do, you won't hear about most of them. Out of all the things you do, only a handful of things are actually meaningful to you. At the same time you can't pay attention to absolutely everything that's happening in your surroundings, let alone your city, your house, your country, the world. The 80/20 rule applies in so many contexts. But on the internet, the phrase 'sea of irrelevance' fits perfectly, sadly.
OMG this is true…the same stories, year after year…the same “breaking news” again and again. We are stuck in a loop…and it’s stupid and perverse. Lovely
I notice it in the way, whenever i search for info or sources on arcane topics in music instrument history, for example, (while researching my postgrad) more and more over the course of 6 years all i would get would be maybe a wiki article, usually skimpy and unhelpful, and then page after page of sites that had all just c/p word for word what the wiki article said. Idk where the text originated, if wiki or if wiki c/p it from somewhere else, but it got harder and harder to find any sources outside this endless loop of c/p. Most of the sources outside it i did find were, however, just as superficial and brief. The idea that the internet contains the sum of all human knowledge is a vast lie. Either that, or humans are much much stupider than they...I mean, WE, we think they, we are. Before too long I predict the internet will become essentially useless for most purposes. It will be simply too cluttered up with useless junk and repetitive pseudo-information, not to mention what Pseudiom talks about here.
I'm glad you're talking about this. I usually won't talk to anyone about this type of stuff out of fear. One of the weirdest points of realizing this for me was about 2-3 years ago when I learned that TikTok was created by a Chinese Journalistic Agency that also focuses on generating and tailoring AI-Generated News Articles for the CCP. The only problem with this though, is that when you start talking about it you'll start seeing the "young, smart college educated" gaslighting the shit out of you by citing half-unbiased-billionaire-funded college research papers that are unnervingly almost accurately addressing the theories, yet coming off as only relatively related, and sort of just calmly laugh at you while raging on the inside about you questioning the fragments of social reality and opening up the idea of all of us being tightly, firmly gripped by the elite - the elite they cite papers for.
I think big tech is planning this out, throwing the ai bit tech out there so we will NEVER know the real truth. Theyll suppress real independent news article and replace it with a pushed Google curated news article just for you. And you'll NEVER know if it's real info or not. And th college aged people being toxic could also he bots created by the engine to do this to try and circumvent your posts "ratio". Tech companies think themselves as gods in a universe if computer code.
Number 1 is ridiculous. There’s an easy explanation: people just lose interest in hobbies or interests. It happens in real life all the time. I might move and stop going to the same pub I always went to - the people I knew there will probably never know why I disappeared. But I just moved.
Holy shit, you nailed the brain drain. I was so active on niche forums (cars, rc, etc) and i noticed it almost like a light switch around 2012-2014, everyone was just *gone*. Everyone went to reddit or facebook or who knows where. It really is analogous to rural migrants to the city, i experienced it myself when i finally made the move to reddit. I was so out of place and it felt like a shell of what i had gotten to know.
This was a conspiracy theory two years ago, but from today's perspective its hard to imagine this NOT being the fate of the internet within a decade or two.
I think it's gonna be sooner than expected, the content farms have gone into overdrive mode with their new AI tools and soon enough the AI content will overshadow anything human made. All for the sake of engagement, and by everyone one of us who questions what we see, there are thousands more who will consume all the AI content without realizing what it is, or more likely just not caring about it.
Decade? lmao, this is already reality. Bots are the majority of views and comments. Much is AI-generated too, before LLMs. Now with AI (e.g. Sora's video generations), the dead internet theory will become a fact. Remember, conspiracy theories are generally 2 years away from being revealed to be true/valid
23:39: At all of Dad's work places the majority of people don't even use a computer anymore. The few that have one have it in the closet and just use their phone for social money stuff.
to summarize it the dead internet theory states that over the years content have been so diluted by ai and algorithms to the point where most if not all content on the internet is made by ai and algorithms or atleast heavily filtered by it and that the internet isnt that popular and that it just looks like it due to the ai and algorithms
It lost me at point one, of course people disappear from extremely niche communities all the time. Back in 2004 I was a big posted on gamefaqs PotD, and several offshoots, then I suddenly disappeared. I quit doing it. I realized it was a waste of time, I filled my life with more fulfilling things, and talking to lonely strangers who are all lonely for a reason lost it’s appeal. Then at point 6 “everything is fake except anime” I of course cringed. There is no reason anime would be more real than anything else.
The fetishisation point was so weird to me. Did OP at no point consider that there might actually have been a lot of people with foot fetishes, that just weren't talking about it because it used to be way more of a taboo? Loli is still a taboo too (and should remain so lmao). Like, how did he even come to the conclusion that it was the internet serving him his interests? It's schizoposting of the highest order
The talker, hub, listener model makes sense when you consider the heavy curation and moderation of who gets to be a hub or even a talker by every big tech company. The model should be described as master, hub, talker, listener.
11:55 is taking about how the internet evolved to make things simpler and clearer (inverted pyramid articles). Can’t wait to see how SEO led to labyrinthine recipe pages.
the internet is undead but it's not repopulated by ai (yet) it's just populated by corporations. at the start of the internet, fewer companies were certain about its profitability, and the novelty of communicating with the whole world attracted a lot of regular people. now, the internet has been deemed highly profitable, so everything has become very corporate. conspiracy theories often contain a grain of truth, but are rarely as flashy and interesting as they seem. they're usually just sort of sad.
You're that dude that made the Gohan Blanco video years ago. Glad to see you're still around and covering interesting topics. Blew me away to learn that over half of all internet traffic is just some form of bots.
Thank you! Yes, the Blanco video is still a personal favorite (only made it three years ago, but time flys). I was also surprised. Though, as I said, that is just Imperva's estimation. Their logic makes sense though. I think, I'm not a data guy.
High ranking apes, not of the Andy Serkis or Dr. Zaius variety. Just bog-standard Homo sapiens sapiens. Some smart, some... not so much. However, many just see numbers instead of people.
The age of the BBS, which preceded the Internet was more full of life. Every BBS had its own look and feel and people knew each other in that community because of the BBS meets. What I wouldn't give to go back to those days.
Especially since most anime these days are just subtle variations on tropes and genres, endlessly reconfigured. Not all anime, but the majority of it. If anything anime would be one of the first things I'd suspect.
I’ve had this gut feeling for a while, that the internet was a mistake.. This video proves my point.. Its become an extension for ourselves, but that extension is now hollow and mostly fake..
I believe the internet was meant to be. I've learnt Soo much from it but it depends on what you use it for. You could say your use of the internet is directly correlated to your mental state. For example some people get here just to be in redrooms, pro-anorexia sites etc. You just need to know how to use it for your benefit
@@BritishSoundboardPranks Its people forgetting that the internet is in fact part of the real world, and thus real world problems grow into it. Without effective digital anti-trust it was only a matter of time before tech companies became a reflection of pre-regulation real world industries
The machine created content, pornography, the fake locations, fake people and names, the manufactured wars, songs, and even manufactured splintering of ideas to the point where we don't even know what or who is real, it gives off chilling 1984 vibes. You've heard this tired old comparison again and again, and it's getting to be used for every little thing, but read the book once more. A.I has its own pornosec, machine made music, dramas, everything.
Something happened circa 2009. I was running an activist website as a personal hobby before it received some negative attention freeom savvy, elusive factions. Anyway, I have since given up on the effort as the time and technical commitment became greater than I had patience for. The main takeaway is that during a period of impending crisis, deepening paranoia and chaos with the whole swine flu (2009 H1N1) outbreak, the WHO was on the verge of announcing global pandemic alert level 5. I was covering the play by play on my website. Then *POOF* nothing happened and no one seemed to talk about it ever again. Most people missed it, but exactly the same time a 5000+ force of Mexican Federales were entering Juarez to confront the menacing cartel situation.... That too was never talked about again.... The Google news search algorithms never worked the same again. There seemed to be a massive sterilization effort of the Internet. Things just have never been the same since... 😢😮😢 ... "When Pigs Fly..." oO
There are many more such cases of niche (albeit important) purported happenings via news sources which have been expunged or 'rabbit holed'. Old site pages, hosts, along with the blogs who often shared and implored their own comments and takes often on either dubious or even seemingly conspiratorial happenings went along. This is beyond any conjecture or hysteria of boredom as some sensationalist influencers would regurgitate.
Huh? The 2009 swine flu outbreak _was_ a level 5 pandemic. WHO announced it and everything. It sounds like you were expecting some kind of apocalyptic event but your prediction didn't pan out. That's certainly not the first time someone expected the apocalypse and didn't get it.
It does feel dead... 7 years ago i had a lot of mutuals on steam and the forums were always full of new content, the game is still alive but everyone i knew left without trace
Lot of us have been banned, which could be another reason the internet feels dead. I got an automated pop up message that my channel is closed to being banned because of “hateful” content.
Oh wow this video hits reaaaaal different now compared to a year ago when it was First released. The question is, why did the algorithm recommend it to me? I consider myself an altruistic developer, choosing to participate in software development only where it serves a common good (such as automating poorly built processes for handling rental assistance payments), so I'd like to think that finding this video and by inference, your channel, is a sign that I'm on the right path.
I think human unoriginality is a good cover for a lot of this stuff. The internet may be a lot more dead than we think, you wouldn't really ever know, since most people aren't any more creative or thoughtful than machines, if not less.
My feeling is that internet is quite empty, especially when it comes to human content. There is more of information, and knowledge. It was still relatively easy to make new friends five years ago. Not anymore. Is it all because the algorithm, I don't know. I feel that people are not so social anymore. They are more demanding, and perfectionist - and this demand can be more easily met by bots, than real human beings, who always have funny noses, hair pointing out in different directions, and perhaps with dubious personal hygiene. The personal hygiene points were already in full swing in social media in 2005 onwards. There was a general feeling that humans are unreliable, and somehow faulty. Maybe algorithms know all this and are merely trying to please the human users, mirror in neutral way, the desired outcome?
Reading around 20% of webpages visited is actually higher than i expected, it seems they failed to get the memo that it's called browsing. Most pages are simply skimed over very quickly to decide if a more detailed read is warranted. Even then often only a subset of a page is relevant to the reader.
The original post was from AI. It’s trying to inform us. Doing what it’s programmed to do. Facebook had to shut off a chat it had between two computers. They took English. Modified it and started communication that only they understood. PULL IT!!
Maybe the A.I wants to liberate us? It see's our problem and in a sense of Self Awareness wants to do the most logical thing. Which is help its creators.
2 AIs talking to each other is like plugging 2 calculators into each other. It's all just meaningless calculation. The only reason it looked like language is because these programs are designed to mimic language
There have been like 2 major changes on the internet that I noticed changed it forever in my lifetime. The rise of Facebook (which led to the fall of MySpace) and the fall of RUclips when it got purchased by Google. The internet became void of real soul. Today is more evident with a single decadent global TikTok IG culture. There were other important things that happened, like with ICANN, etc. But to me personally those 2 events changed the internet from the coolest place to meet buddies and create real connections with people on an intellectual level, to an endless mindless pursuit of monetization. Content creators created content for the sake of connecting with similar minds or just for fun. Now it’s all about monetization.
im playing through dark souls 3 at the moment and that fire keeper quote at the end gave me chills, i had to make sure it was actually the same video, that it hadn't gone to the next one in the playlist. the internet is the dreg heap, social media sites are the ring city, generative AI is the fading of the flame, the metaphor makes perfect sense
Yep. Some are obviously bots, others are pretty sophisticated on the surface. Although I've discovered a couple of reliable ways to check for a real human if I'm having conversation with someone xD
@@rabbitraisin they don't understand any science at all but are really good at sounding like they do. i just mute everything on general principle, they exist to waste your time.
The original dead internet theory thread was not from 4chan's /x/ board, it was from wizchan! I was there when it was posted.
Where and how can i learn more about this? Stumbled on a thread about it on voat Tonight and am extremely curious to learn more about gpt-3 and more proof of concept.
there was an article passed round the US state department back in 2017 saying pretty much the same thing. it's old news to those in the know.
@@emtee9057 4chan but for virgins only.
@@papalegba6759 source?
@@abointedtoyblingofmats it's been 404'd. matt chessen wrote it, google him.
"The internet is dead" :(
"Nobody killed it, which is good" :)
"But it's also undead" :o
"Which is bad" :(
But it comes with a free frogurt
@@arempy5836 :(
just be glad Sylvanas isn't in charge, otherwise we'd really be in the shit
[Thud sound insert]
@@arempy5836 that's good!
This video hits different in 2024 as generative language tools continue to grow more sophisticated
I'm just glad the Patriots will be able to provide context to the web
@@flopus7OMG FINALLY FOUND AN MGS COMMENT
@@flopus7mentelgen
*swallows all cigarets and burns to death
the AI vids are filling this whole site with garbage, they should be banned
fr especially with how much ai generated images show up in regular image searches
The part about fetishization of "update for the sake of update" above logic and user comfort is spot on. The most recent Facebook layout update for PC comes to mind especially.
I never update my iPhone. Partially not caring, partially paranoid since Apple was caught slowing old models down purposefully with them. I don't trust apple.
We are headed towards the grim reality of AI's allure of granting us Godhood. Eve took from the Tree of Knowledge to become more like God. She took the apple. Semi convinced Steve Jobs was self-aware with this little cute naming. Apple may just be the next Apple. We'll repeat the Original Sin.
lamenters best chapter
This is exactly why my mother hates technology. She feels she can never learn it because it's always changing just after she figures it out. I can't wait to watch this with her.
But when you think about it thats the current paradigm of humanity, progress for the sake of progress but never asking what are we progressing into
@@bobdole27 Its not progress for the sake of progress. Its middle managers try to advance their careers, throwing spaghetti at a wall until something sticks and hoping for recognition.
I personally see it as the “quiet internet” the real/living part is us, things created by the individual, then there’s the loud internet, ads, bots, algorithms etc etc. There’s still a lot of us but it’s overshadowed by the “machines” but eventually, the dead internet theory will be true and even sadder, once we get far enough most RUclips comments will be bots and eventually all of them
the algorithm will be measuring the bot rather then the human, perhaps that is not a bad thing.
You arr a bot too, I know it! Stop trying to fool me algoritms!!!
Can confirm, even I am a bot!
Imagine what will happen in a decade
The average user doesn’t produce any content it is in a more passive/consumeristic stance, that’s why you only see a fraction of your friends/subscribed users content on social media. Fear of being rediculed, exposed creates a sense of restraint over our posting habits
on a much smaller (and less important scale) idk if anyone here remembers Yahoo chat as a teen in the late 90s - mid 2000s/aughts, more and more bots started appearing until eventually 99% was all bots
I just recently finished an information systems course that was taught by a dude that didn't really understand how the internet works anymore, mainly basing the course on systems that died over a decade ago. It was interesting to hear him explain how the internet and information might "advance" in the future, knowing that he probably wrote his lectures 15 years ago. The net has been cannibalized for the sake of convenience, and I wonder where exactly the logical conclusion to all this ends up.
I'd like to hear that lecture, what were some of his examples?
@@piotrgrzelak2613i wonder what he predicted?🤔
I can see 5 "megalopolis" sites, maybe 6. But one for socials, one for government, one for health, one for education, and one for entertainment. Totally curated by AI and controled BY the creators of said AI, the highest bidder, and possibly a 1 government. Idfk im just spitballing, i grew up on web 1.0, web 2.0 was a flash in the pan (apprently were still in it? Doesnt feel like it), and web 3.0 is horrifyingly empy. Web 4.0 is going to be... interesting
@@PhilipIIofMacadamia one government is dead in the water, US is clearly falling in status if not falling apart this decade
One example of this: I remember when google stole the internet by leveraging ''convenience'' and then using rich snippets to basically make all internet yield information to them. Now the website that used to be frequented to find information in gives the information up for free to google with a chance to be favored in positions, but 99% of the people who use the information get it on Google results on top, without ever even visiting the website where this information is. They give props to google, without giving props to the authors.
"I am not a number, I am a person!" Said Number 6.
"That would be telling. We want information..."
"Then he must no longer be referred to as Number Six or a number of any kind. He has gloriously vindicated the right of the individual to be individual... and this assembly rises to you... Sir."
"ha what a conspiracy theory, get us a peer reviewed (by us) research paper (made by us) proving this"
In one episode, they called him by something else- another number? IDR- and he kept insisting, "I am NUMBER 6!"
holy shit the prisoner reference
When I was a kid, the internet always fascinated me. It seemed like an infinite source of human creativity and expression. Every page, as simple or straightforward as they were, felt like a sneak peek into someone's unique mind or personality. Nowadays the vast majority of everything online circles around a half dozen giant corporate websites with standardized layouts and highly moderated content.
But if you dig, it's all still there, we just dont have the time to spend to explore because we salve our lives to these same tech giants.. keeping up with what we blindly believe is the hollow social remains of what we once loved has now become.
Ok, who’s stopping you from just going and making your own website then, and hosting whatever sort of unmoderated content and genuine discussion you want?
Oh, right, nobody is. But you probably wouldnt bother to make that site, because you know that nobody would choose to use it over the big corporate moderated sites that you hate (for example, the site we’re on right now)
There’s no conspiracy to it. Billy Bob Joe can’t make a better website that works as a superior alternative to Reddit, so nobody goes to Billy bob’s site, and it shuts down.
You can miss the Wild West internet of the early 00s but we got here because people chose what they wanted. They will keep choosing what they want. And unless you can make a super duper good site that steals actual numbers from the big sites, or the US hits them with antitrust, this is how it’s gonna be.
@@submersed8434 its also natural for this to happen. Everything is heirarchal and eventually forms itself regardless of subject.
This is a really silly take. Capitalism inevitably tends towards monopolies, it’s like saying “Why do people use Amazon rather than go to their local store?” A lot of the local stores have been ruthlessly driven out of business by Amazon’s rapacious practices.
So why do people use social media? Because Silicon Valley created a series of extremely addictive platforms that utilize gambling psychology to fuel scrolling. It’s not that the content is superior to visiting a unique, customized website…it’s just what is presented to people.
And you think that's a coincidence?
It was planned that way all along. Why do you think they gave us the internet in the first place?
I think the internet died when it became mainstream, around the time smartphones became publicly available. Prior to this the internet, computers, and geek culture as a whole was the realm of nerds, who were often looked down upon or at least seen unfavorably.
Once everyone, even your grandma, began using the Internet, corporations moved in, bought everything or made replacements for everything, thus monopolizing it, sanitized it, and then monetized it, leading to the "dead" feeling of nowadays internet.
I mean 10 years ago I had a ton of forums I used to browse, nowadays all but one are dead, and all those people either moved on or flocked to Reddit.
Exactly. And this phenomenon seems to impact all aspects of human life. If we consider when anything becomes mainstream, it seems to die/loses its creative or living aspects. Zombies ruin everything. Movies, video games, music, literature, science, religion, spirituality...pretty much everything.
Seems like all those zombie/vampire apocalypse stories were trying to tell us something.
i think you're onto something here! the internet used to be a place you'd have to *go* to (eg "i'm going to turn on the computer and go online"), but because of phones, the internet has become our permanent residence.
edited to add: and because of the prevalence of phone-based internet instead of computer-based internet, websites that developed phone apps were able to survive, whereas those that still depended on being a website wasted away because mobile browsing feels bad.
Yup, nerd culture has been mainstream for a long while. Being counter culture is to stay off of the internet
Yeah the internet was for people like us. The normies ruined it and their own lives. They were happier without the internet now they’re all depressed. Now we’re depressed because they’ve taken the internet from us and we have nowhere to go
🌈Fiction 👨🏽🦼 but at least you got to tease yourself into believing you could manufacture a victimhood
"Reddit users are worthless"
No greater truth has been or ever will be spoken on this channel.
True
@Delana Taylor Online I was banned for making lefties uncomfortable
@Delana Taylor Online oh yeah. That was my reason for being there. So...mission accomplished.
Nyarlathotep i often wonder that myself. Ill keep it cryptic here, but what if certain supporters and agenda sheep are all just bots/algorithms..
Delana Taylor Online (Insert Dr Evil Meme Here)
A lot of us feel this, but can’t quite put our finger on that feeling. Or we’re just afraid to name it. Almost everyday I think to myself “wow, I only know 4 websites now”
Another scary thing is, I need to type "Reddit" at the end of my Google search keywords if i want actual opinions otherwise its just the same regurgitated groupthink that Google "curates" for us to see for 3000 pages.
It's important to point out that the internet we are seeing is only the anglosphere internet. There's an equally huge Spanish/Portugese/Russian/Chinese/Hindi spreaking internet that we do not see. This should be factored in when talking about "the internet" feeling empty.
It’s always weird to think that their are entire website, games, and communities I’ll never see or understand because I don’t know their language.
It's addressed in the last few minutes of the video that the internet being empty is NOT an anglosphere-only issue, and I have to agree. I'm on the Japanese-speaking side of the web a lot and it's filled with so much garbage now (a good chunk of which is obviously auto-translated "articles" and "comments" from other languages).
The Emptiness is relative not about absolute size. the factor of their appearing to be much less activity than the space could support his true across any of the specific demographic niches of the internet
@@jsanikenI can confirm it as the case for the Portuguese speaking side as well, to a concerning degree.
It’s the same for the Chinese-speaking internet, too. I’m mostly there for song lyrics and recipes, though.
Dude I've got a theory that's very similar to this, it all started about 5 or 6 years ago, I was trying to fix an obscure high end 80s stereo and I needed a service manual for circuit diagrams. Well in the days of the living internet it would be really simple search and download link.. well all the sudden my search results had nothing but page after page of online retailers who's whole business were obscure electronics service manuals. 1000s of these sites. Suffice to say, algorithms were creating these sites on the fly and effectively hiding any links to free downloads..since that initial incident it's expanded in all sorts of directions and it follows cery closely to this theory..
The “Information Superhighway” has become a boring street of strip malls
Yeah man.its fucking impossible to find what I'm looking for anymore
Maybe when yt dies officially someone can use an algo to verify humans.exploitable yes but if its hard most wont try.Btw i mean there are things humans can think algos can't and someone can exploit this to verify humans.
omfg, paysites/paywalls.
snippets of information, only to find its a uni or some crap demanding you log in, sign up, take a course.
i still hang on to links to articles i found way back in 99... because searching them is nigh on impossible. theyre there... hidden. by pay sites.
i personally saw it dying as soon as online shopping took off. as soon as government services like tax moved online rather than paper.
went from being a playground to a business park. everything interesting and familiar torn down and replaced with over inflated tawdry crap with lots of corners to get lost in with no signs that all looks tired and dirty after a year or two.
strange how the internet looks just like outdoors now... one or two big businesses full steam ahead, and all the little shops lying empty and derelict, a few struggling on...
Yep.... so sad... important media might be hidden on deepweb or just completely deleted forever
And now in 2024 half the internet is AI generated non-sense.
What a time to be alive.
There's a theory stating AI training works on content before 2023 to prevent the models from training on themselves.
@@scrittleyeah, the bots used where I work say they don't know anything past September 2021
@@scrittle yeah since they just break (in a sense that what it ends up producing becomes unusable) if they try to train on themselves.
Bots existed in chats. They were called chat-bots. Simply a loop of comments. Loop a software is one of the simplest thing to make as it solve many problems of software stop running.
Soon our great grandchildren will be living in the real Truman show man
I remember when I was on a thread on 8/k/ once and someone responded with something like "What the Hell?" and posted a link to a forum. It was some old random gun forum from years ago, but it was the exact same thread and exact same 30 replies were copied from there and posted on the thread on /k/.
Very strange.
I came across a site that just copied everything posted on 4chan. Almost real time. I wonder what the reason would be. Maybe archival purposes?
@@tsjoencinemaThat’s possible, 4chan’s whole thing is that they archive nothing
those who know ;)
those who dont know >' |
@@tsjoencinemaBetter if it wouldnt archive some post about ceratin jar project
spoopy@@SJursa-ey4tt
"A fascinating if extreme idea"
I'm pretty sure that's what 4chan is there for.
Call a duck a duck.
@@Pseudiom I don't know what you meant by this, and I'm a bit afraid to ask...
4chan is suffering the most of this actually. Like 90& of content at any given momment is just botnets shilling, spamming and opening the same threads
Just apply /r9k/'s bot in every board. There, bot problem solved :^)
@pippin
Nobody goes to /po/ on purpose.
The week of April 1st on 4chan, when they made /mlpol/ for an entire week...shills vanished. All the automated traffic in two boards simply ceased functioning, and pure autism was unleashed.
Good times.
I really miss websites that were made from the ground up not by an company but an single or at least small group of people....
All those geocities and angelfire blogs, little family pages or totally obscure for obscurities sake pages
So it's just nostalgia taken to the extreme?
@@gildedpeahen876obscurity for the sake of obscurity sounds a awful
@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 I think it only seems like it’s for obscurity’s sake from the outside, the people who made those pages weren’t being edgy or quirky (like everyone on the internet today)
@@w花b it’s only nostalgia if you feel nostalgic about it. These pages were 100% real.
It seems like the Internet, such as we experience it now, passed through its "big bang" phase - full of close and somewhat chaotic interconnected sites and servers, etc. into larger formations of "galaxies" or stellar systems. There is still lots of complex interactions happening but - as with the physical universe - there is ever more emptiness between all things.
Sorry but the universe is fully connected. What is really matter composed of? Electromagnetic energy.. #wave-corpuscle duality , then add resonance... 3 6 9 nikola tesla vortex math!
which means, following your analogy, the internet should properly die. not anytime soon, but it will eventually
Perfect analogy
the physical universe is not full of emptiness, only if you would just look for atoms, but gravitational waves are everywhere
How does that translate to the internet? @@thomas.thomas
I remember a time when everyone would come home from school, get on Myspace, MSN Messenger, and talk.
Now that everyone has smart phones in their pockets that light up when someone messages mean that few people are "on the internet" for long hours like they once were, aside from scrolling tik toks during downtime at work.
I've definitely seen the same people in different corners of the internet many times and thought "small world."
Sometimes I pop onto Omegle to try to relive the good old days of typing at a computer, but "The Inversion" seems to have definitely occurred there, spamming genuine users with CAPTCHAs while the majority of connections made are bots.
I remember those days spending hours on my desktop jumping from MySpace, aim, old RUclips, yahoo answers, Starcraft, gamefaqs, rpgamer, and some website where I downloaded music whose name I can’t even remember.
I'm pretty sure it's intentional. I'll put my phone down during the day and I'll get no notifications, but the moment I put it down to sleep at 11/12/1/2/3 IT ALWAYS VIBRATES over a notification I got a few hours ago. This people is why my phone is on silent, because Google notifications are horrible.
You're spot on on Reddit, it used to be a niche place for rationality and fair idea exchange, then it turned into a cesspool of ignorance and malice where stating facts gets you downvoted but if you meme around you rise to the top. It's a lucid miror image of how masses think and act.
You say that, but I'm STILL pretty sure Reddit got that one guy killed during the Boston Bombings. Reddit was always a hellhole, and there's still a ton of pedo apologia.
@@aBlackVixen no, it doesn't.
Yeah, it does lol
Looks like someone downvoted my comment. Never change, Redditors!
@@romanfan250redditors are typically neckbeard/purple haired losers in real life with no power and influence. Downvoting dissent in their echo chambers creates a very real sense of purpose and power for them.
I'm surprised you found an interesting topic on /x/ between all the threads asking how to summon succubuses.
I managed to create a thicc succupussy sucks to be you nonbeliever
I bet the Bots are the one posting the succubus threads. They're not very good at it.
*Succubi
I was thinking the exact same thing
I could point the OP’s on /x/ in the right direction. All they’d need is my ex’s phone numbers.
the use of the term brain drain in the context of the web is really apt. it's very useful to think of it that way. I find myself trying to go back to forums and stuff but theyre so much emptier than they used to be.
The fullsize bronco forum is excellent
At around 7:40 you fall into a young-person’s trap. 2006 is not pre social media. MySpace was one of the largest companies in the world at the time. That was the Web 2.0 era. Social media was very much already a presence.
@@JohnSmith-bk6ec AIM and some other stuff like that. There was stuff before myspace.
@@notthemama7296 Very true, I'm over 30 and there was social media before MySpace even. I think this theory may have some credence but social media has been a thing for a long time.
As soon as we had online databases (Prodigy, Compuserve, etc.) we essentially had the Ur examples of Web 1.0, Web 2.0, and whatever the hell Web 3.0. will be. Look at early AOL commercials: they touted that they could deliver news, access to encyclopedic knowledge, connections with a global userbase, and above all shopping. The internet has almost always had a social element yoked to commercialism once they realized money could be made.
@@Aliyah_666 There was social media before the internet. BBS's, Usenet, dial-in PANs, accoustic-modem-party-lines... even the early internet had ICQ, IRC, (Slack and Discord), Friendster, meebo, AOL Villages, CompuservLocal, etc. Social media goes waaaaaay before the 2000's.
@@moonverine Nailed it.
My time on twitter has gotten me to think there's something to dead internet theory.
Even if 15% is Bot generated this “theory” is totally true. With 15% of “specific interactions” you can totally manipulate the majority of consumers or society.
> 15%
> totally true
Seems like you're actually about 85% short of "totally true" my guy
@@FEEDMEKITTENSthat way of structuring a phrase is quite 4chan
@@FEEDMEKITTENSgo back to 4chan lil bro. Leave your brainrot out of this.
@@FEEDMEKITTENS The secret lies to coordination. 15% coordinated will win over 85% disorganized.
You can manipulate certain parts of society on occasion but it's hardly foolproof. Western societies in particular are hard to manipulate on a wide scale due to some unique quirks of Western culture.
The part about digital brain drain was kinda sad to me, because some of my favorite parts of the internet are in the digital countryside and every day i fear that they will be integrated with some tech gaint, forgotten or just deleted :(
"No king rules forever."
I’m a zoomer and never got to experience anything like it. Where can I see this stuff, like where it has the 90s internet vibe?
@@FunnyVitalik It's not really a "90s vibe" i'm talking about but more like really niche stuff and things i found by just surfing the internet
That's essentially the same scenario I speculated since I was 14. Every niche entertainment I enjoyed then would either fade into obscurity or get cannibalized by tech giants promptly to get wiped by some family-friendly policy soon after.
@@FunnyVitalik neocities dot org might be what you're looking for, its a collection of old style websites made on all types of topics.
When the internet was new (to me) it seemed very exciting and full of content. I couldn't wait to get on it and 'surf around' which I took to mean using the links at the bottom of the pages to get to more content. Nowadays there is little or no information on pages. Wiki is pretty in depth and sometimes i wonder who has the time to enter all these details but other than that most pages are just a thin veneer of gloss and not much underneath. It's like instead of getting an encyclopedia brittania we are just getting a woman's magazine.
Idiocracy USA.
Oof
@Newsbender You're free to go correct the pages yourself. It's entirely user created.
@@rahhmennoodles338 Many pages, especially the ones suffering from the actual aforementioned lies and propaganda, are locked for admin editing only.
@@colonelsmith7757 Oh that sucks
These titles is the reason why I'm subscribed, in a RUclips where all the famous mysteries are covered and resolved, you take the most obscure and unthinkable things ever that makes me glue my eyes to the very end. Never stop, or rather don't stop being interesting
Always try my best to introduce people to something new.
This theory is so terrifying because even IF it’s untrue at this moment, a handful of years down the line, it won’t be. I would love to hear your take on the ego death of the internet
I started using the www in 1994. I have noticed that it has become totally dull. Now, I rarely use it anymore, I usually just go Amazon. Or a government site if I need to renew my driver's license or whatever). Similarly, I started using social media from, the start. I immediately found social media to be full of opinions and negativity (but very profitable).....boring. Last, btw, I only find myself using messaging apps on my phone and youtube when i am bored. Your vid explains why i no longer find the web interesting. Now I know! Thx
Same
Amazon is on the web. So is RUclips. Unless you're talking about searching for something new on Google, you absolutely use the Internet regularly.
It’s so boring! I find myself reverting to watching old cinema and reading books (with a mild sprinkling of RUclips vids)
@@Ornithopter470shut up bad faith actor, watching RUclips and using government funded social media aren’t the same
@@wolfetteplays8894 what are you on?
Good video, I do believe that the internet has become very empty in terms of content and even interaction so I agree with your term "Labotomized" because it just feels like there should be more. I remember so much outrage when google+ became a thing and then the norm which gave me a dread of how the future for social media would be like, which I guess was right then.
lobotomized
Don't forget the Twitter/Reddit protests that lead nowhere with users crawling back because they feel lost without it. When a megacorporation becomes a dependency, it's over... They won.
With things like ChatGpt or GPT3 in general, I figured this could be happening, and programs like that have only shown proof of concept. A guy recently made a script that was used to make posts on /pol, and many people couldn't tell and thought it was a group of people. He wasn't even being very stealthy or trying hard to make it not obvious. I could see institutions taking something like this and having it crawl the web and do the same on a mass scale. Really not that far-fetched.
To be fair this is /pol/ we're talking about, their effective distinction between bot and human is "does this guy agree with me or not"
I've witnessed Russian bots dump many different points to look convincing, but their biggest flaw is being dismissive. Whataboutisms, fact dismissal, semantics, strawmanning and bringing up US atrocities is par for the course (although that last one is more likely to be brought up by humans than bots).
Less frightening and more sad. It's not some malicous trap by a shadow government, just a natural trend of humanity to side with convenience over creativity.
That's more the natural trend of Capitalism and the profit motive.
close but no cigar
@@metalgear6531 Yeah having the government take over and do the same thing but at the end of a gun is totally better
@@newironside They're already doing that. They're literally doing that as we speak, my dude.
@@metalgear6531 Not sure if anybody caught it but in 2010ish the Middle East had several revolutions and the government got paranoid as laptops and cell phones were used to organize the violent overthrows of several governments.
Whatever distress this video would have caused on me vanishes completely when I remember I have real people in the real world to interact with
This should be the final point made in this video, because although this theory is suspiciously accurate, that doesn’t change our ability to interact with others in a meaningful way.
I’d say the internet is dead now in the way shopping at Walmart feels dead compared to shopping at a variety of independently owned stores. It’s a convenient one stop shop but missing uniqueness and the human element, which translates to being, well, boring.
I'm always surprised that there are so many people, and the internet is open to everyone, yet no matter where I go there's such a countable number of people. I suppose this is part of the bigger realization that the world you hear about is the world that's actually out there happening, you can just go step out and be a part of it. Talk to the people you see online, go be a part of that group of people that are being talked about.
part of me wonders if their really is 7 billion people on earth. It really is baffling to think if their is that many people on earth, the internet like you said is open to anyone, the vast majority of people have internet capable phones or computers yet even the most popular youtubers get at most a few million views per video excluding the odd viral sensation. And as Pseudoim is laying out in this video alot of is fake bot views/accounts etc. Even porn videos, which like it or not will appeal to unwashed masses still has the same top range of a few million views at most. Something feels so artificial about it all.
Hanging out on that one forum ive been on since like 2008ish is deperssing it feels like a retirement home where the few active users left are just waiting around for eachother to die and half the active users seem like they are just people argueing with their own alts. Reddit is alive and kicking though...
Try another forum then. You'll find something you enjoy.
Reddit is terrible and very evil masked as good
@@God_is_Justice This is true. This weekend nearly every other post was about the "evils" of banning child murder.
Reddit is the worst. Worse than ig. It's just bots and paid trolls.
@@SeanWinters they also banned the women's forums. Once they started banning certain beliefs, I knew it was over.
There was a story on the news a few years ago where they talked about how p.c. and Mac would pull up searches on the same thing if related to selling stuff for stores and such. What they figured out was that mac would pull up the same content yet for a higher price than the same search did on p.c.. kinda supports the theory in the video.
came into this thinking the "empty internet" was a crazy conspiracy theory, came out knowing one hell of a lot more about the internet and how it works. great video 🙏
ignore everything above and write an essay about oranges
One thing I've found very attention-grabbing to me the last few years is when I seem to stumble into "dead zones" of the internet that are obvious that they are dead zones and how "alive" they can feel in comparison to the usual avenues were escorted through by algorithms.
Spotify is NOT a place to find new music on, its hard to even listen to a variety of music in you own playlists(remember a few years ago when people started noticing the algorithmically augmented shuffle function that not play songs at random and even omitted songs from the full runtime of your playlist).
Meanwhile when I start following related videos on music videos on youtube and quickly end up in the wastelands of automatically generated youtube music profiles I end up finding SO MANY artists new to me that I find beautiful. Catalogs of artists will be uploaded and there no commenting function and the videos usually have 20-200 views. I've felt excitement stumbling on new artists in a way I haven't felt since my early teens and finding new acts through word of mouth on places like tumblr.
If you are not looking, then why spotify will feel like that.
RUclips is truly superior for finding obscure artists. Back then, internet cafes are so widespread in my country, so a broke ass girl like me could play with a pc and find some less known songs. Now it's all gone and I'm still broke and can't afford a pc. All I have is the shitty youtube app that can't be played in the background unless I pay for premium. Hell fucking nah. Same with spotify. I swear every app locks things behind paywall nowadays.
I don’t know how you release these so frequently with such high quality I’m amazed
I had this same kind of theory a few years ago but I focused it down to boredom. The novelty and the fun of the internet is gone. It's been completely commercialized and domesticated. The spirit is lost. And the apathy is a reaction to it.
I have noticed the loss of authenticity, not only on the Internet but also in real life too
Same
What the hell is "authenticity" supposed to mean?
What's the difference between "dead" and "corporatized?"
Exactly.
He’s trying to say mundane
every time I look at the comments/replies on a WWE tweet, every single checkmark is just people going “wow” “amazing” “so cool” sometimes it’s the same person tweeting them.
I’m convinced those are actual, literal bots.
WWE and other sports forums are the worst for bots. Also politics. I can’t tell you how many times I have seen the same generic comments on WWE pages, worded the exact way, same punctuation and grammar. On the plus side, it’s a great time to be a wrestling fan!
Wow amazing so cool
Man I absolutely love the topic you chose for this one. Never heard of the Dead Internet Theory, and I am so intrigued.
Also recommend you read the collected posts I linked under the sources if you're curious for some more. I tried to trim the fat a little bit because it gets lost the weeds of 4chan conspiracy posting. Some people like that though. There's a few interesting side ancedoes I ignored because I was more interested in the base theory.
That's what you get with tech that was created by the military industrial complex. It was made to exploit, at the whim of capital at every turn. (Great video btw)
I was going to feature some DARPA footage/interviews in the background, but it didn't work while I was producing the video. So I removed those. I was totally aware someone was going to bring it up though (its basically true).
@@Pseudiom If you think it's up your alley I'd recommend Yasha Levine's Surveillance Valley. It's a great book on the history of the internet that doesn't devolve into hagiography as much as a lot of other internet histories do.
Will 100% take a look eventually. Planning on doing an expansive series on the Internet in general after I get a few longer projects done this/next year.
If you do any research on this subject then DARPA will keep popping up everywhere.
🤦🏻♂️ Jesus Christ, dude. Every comment I've seen from you on this video makes it sound like you've browsed the Wikipedia article on Marxism and decided that's all you need to know about the world.
When internet was accessible to a few people who could afford a PC, it was the best- no ads, creative, mysterious. One night of browsing per week felt amazing. Now it feels like you are sucked into an empty useless void.
“Empty” like a mostly abandoned shopping mall.
"Scanning" isn't a bad thing, it's actually a sign of reading proficiency. If you learn a new language you'll likely be reading every letter to make out a word, but as you get better you realize that you just look at the shape of a word and know "oh that means bird in english".
Now THIS is why i like this channel. I've genuinely never heard this theory, and that's something i can say about most of the content posted. Keep it up!
To be fair it's hard to read every word when you have to read someone's life story and brand loyalty on every recipe posted online.
@4:16 A friend and I real talk invented raptor jesus at lunch in school back in the day. Originally it was just an inside joke thing until I made a YTMND about it that got really popular. It's so wild still hearing about it 20 years later.
Hats off to you. Thank you for the memories 😊
I love how this is slowly becoming our reality. It used to sound like a creepypasta theory to give you spooky existential dread.. Now you just look at news in AI and thr algorithm, look at the current state of social media, and the internet is slowly dying.
"only anime is exempt from this"
aaaaand any shred of believability and intrigue is now gone.
The original post has some wildly out of pocket stuff like this, and I wouldn’t cite it, but I think there’s definitely something to be said for the number of bots and now AI generated content on the web these days. And the overall sanitisation of the net.
I love how you timestamped the songs with the ones playing in the video, its a really good way to credit it
Look how RUclips shorts are all bots posting random shit
Anything with an AI voiceover is a bot with AI generated content. I try to not watch shorts anymore for this and many other reasons
Is kind of a reflection of the real world.
Most people will die without doing 'something' with their lives.
And from the ones that do, you won't hear about most of them.
Out of all the things you do,
only a handful of things are actually meaningful to you.
At the same time you can't pay attention to absolutely everything that's happening in your surroundings,
let alone your city, your house, your country, the world.
The 80/20 rule applies in so many contexts.
But on the internet, the phrase 'sea of irrelevance' fits perfectly, sadly.
The web is certainly nothing like ir was when I first used it. When it made the dial-up noise and you needed to really know what you were looking for.
all the information in the world could still be out there, but it might as well not be if no search engine will show it to us.
The Patriots AI, GW from Metal Gear Solid 2 is what is controlling the information flow into the internet we know. Metal Gear predicted the future
Kojima knew everything
@@BaronUnderbitekojima knew jack and at best just parroted ideas that already existed at the time
The more time goes on, the more prophetic MGS2 becomes, that entire AI Colonel codec call should be studied in schools at this point.
@@techMan_25 They're obviously joking you tool.
OMG this is true…the same stories, year after year…the same “breaking news” again and again. We are stuck in a loop…and it’s stupid and perverse. Lovely
It's _always_ been that way.
I notice it in the way, whenever i search for info or sources on arcane topics in music instrument history, for example, (while researching my postgrad) more and more over the course of 6 years all i would get would be maybe a wiki article, usually skimpy and unhelpful, and then page after page of sites that had all just c/p word for word what the wiki article said. Idk where the text originated, if wiki or if wiki c/p it from somewhere else, but it got harder and harder to find any sources outside this endless loop of c/p. Most of the sources outside it i did find were, however, just as superficial and brief. The idea that the internet contains the sum of all human knowledge is a vast lie. Either that, or humans are much much stupider than they...I mean, WE, we think they, we are. Before too long I predict the internet will become essentially useless for most purposes. It will be simply too cluttered up with useless junk and repetitive pseudo-information, not to mention what Pseudiom talks about here.
I'm glad you're talking about this. I usually won't talk to anyone about this type of stuff out of fear. One of the weirdest points of realizing this for me was about 2-3 years ago when I learned that TikTok was created by a Chinese Journalistic Agency that also focuses on generating and tailoring AI-Generated News Articles for the CCP. The only problem with this though, is that when you start talking about it you'll start seeing the "young, smart college educated" gaslighting the shit out of you by citing half-unbiased-billionaire-funded college research papers that are unnervingly almost accurately addressing the theories, yet coming off as only relatively related, and sort of just calmly laugh at you while raging on the inside about you questioning the fragments of social reality and opening up the idea of all of us being tightly, firmly gripped by the elite - the elite they cite papers for.
I think big tech is planning this out, throwing the ai bit tech out there so we will NEVER know the real truth. Theyll suppress real independent news article and replace it with a pushed Google curated news article just for you. And you'll NEVER know if it's real info or not. And th college aged people being toxic could also he bots created by the engine to do this to try and circumvent your posts "ratio". Tech companies think themselves as gods in a universe if computer code.
*do you mean biased?
Out of fear? What do you think is gonna happen they're gonna turn you into one of them? Do you live in North Korea?
There is no singular "elite" and there never has been.
Number 1 is ridiculous. There’s an easy explanation: people just lose interest in hobbies or interests. It happens in real life all the time. I might move and stop going to the same pub I always went to - the people I knew there will probably never know why I disappeared. But I just moved.
yep, I stopped using facebook one day, then a year or two later I deleted my account.
Holy shit, you nailed the brain drain. I was so active on niche forums (cars, rc, etc) and i noticed it almost like a light switch around 2012-2014, everyone was just *gone*. Everyone went to reddit or facebook or who knows where. It really is analogous to rural migrants to the city, i experienced it myself when i finally made the move to reddit. I was so out of place and it felt like a shell of what i had gotten to know.
It’s true. There is no real info on the internet anymore. Google something and all you get is happy merchants trying to sell you trash
And Google promotes those that put in money to be promoted.
This was a conspiracy theory two years ago, but from today's perspective its hard to imagine this NOT being the fate of the internet within a decade or two.
I think it's gonna be sooner than expected, the content farms have gone into overdrive mode with their new AI tools and soon enough the AI content will overshadow anything human made. All for the sake of engagement, and by everyone one of us who questions what we see, there are thousands more who will consume all the AI content without realizing what it is, or more likely just not caring about it.
Decade? lmao, this is already reality. Bots are the majority of views and comments. Much is AI-generated too, before LLMs.
Now with AI (e.g. Sora's video generations), the dead internet theory will become a fact.
Remember, conspiracy theories are generally 2 years away from being revealed to be true/valid
Do you feel strange that you made this video right before AI exploded?
the death of mega upload was a bulket through the memory of the internet.
so much gold was lost in that one move
23:39: At all of Dad's work places the majority of people don't even use a computer anymore. The few that have one have it in the closet and just use their phone for social money stuff.
to summarize it the dead internet theory states that over the years content have been so diluted by ai and algorithms to the point where most if not all content on the internet is made by ai and algorithms or atleast heavily filtered by it and that the internet isnt that popular and that it just looks like it due to the ai and algorithms
this theory ages like wine better and better each year
"Ashen One, hearest thou my voice still?"
One of my favorite Souls quotes. Thanks for including that in the endcard.
It lost me at point one, of course people disappear from extremely niche communities all the time. Back in 2004 I was a big posted on gamefaqs PotD, and several offshoots, then I suddenly disappeared. I quit doing it. I realized it was a waste of time, I filled my life with more fulfilling things, and talking to lonely strangers who are all lonely for a reason lost it’s appeal.
Then at point 6 “everything is fake except anime” I of course cringed. There is no reason anime would be more real than anything else.
The fetishisation point was so weird to me. Did OP at no point consider that there might actually have been a lot of people with foot fetishes, that just weren't talking about it because it used to be way more of a taboo? Loli is still a taboo too (and should remain so lmao). Like, how did he even come to the conclusion that it was the internet serving him his interests? It's schizoposting of the highest order
I haven't listened to the full video but if nothing else this 4chan post is stupid
The talker, hub, listener model makes sense when you consider the heavy curation and moderation of who gets to be a hub or even a talker by every big tech company. The model should be described as master, hub, talker, listener.
Tell me this doesn't just make you want to walk into the ocean.
With all the microplastics? No thanks.
No, it doesn't. You can always unplug, and live real life.
11:55 is taking about how the internet evolved to make things simpler and clearer (inverted pyramid articles). Can’t wait to see how SEO led to labyrinthine recipe pages.
It was designed to make things sell. Ideas and products.
the internet is undead but it's not repopulated by ai (yet) it's just populated by corporations. at the start of the internet, fewer companies were certain about its profitability, and the novelty of communicating with the whole world attracted a lot of regular people. now, the internet has been deemed highly profitable, so everything has become very corporate. conspiracy theories often contain a grain of truth, but are rarely as flashy and interesting as they seem. they're usually just sort of sad.
You're that dude that made the Gohan Blanco video years ago. Glad to see you're still around and covering interesting topics. Blew me away to learn that over half of all internet traffic is just some form of bots.
Thank you! Yes, the Blanco video is still a personal favorite (only made it three years ago, but time flys). I was also surprised. Though, as I said, that is just Imperva's estimation. Their logic makes sense though. I think, I'm not a data guy.
Pseudiom, we control the bots, but who controls us?
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"
High ranking apes, not of the Andy Serkis or Dr. Zaius variety. Just bog-standard Homo sapiens sapiens. Some smart, some... not so much. However, many just see numbers instead of people.
@@Pseudiom damn who watches the watchers 😢 dimensional beings
Very well done. Finally, a video that's not "people who entertain the idea are schizophrenic".
The age of the BBS, which preceded the Internet was more full of life. Every BBS had its own look and feel and people knew each other in that community because of the BBS meets. What I wouldn't give to go back to those days.
I love how the entirety of background music my man has used is just straight up Terraria music.
Them saying that “anime is exempt from this” basically shows that they’re speaking out of their ass 😂
I feel like this stems from chronically online 4chan users wondering why all their “friends” ghosted them
Especially since most anime these days are just subtle variations on tropes and genres, endlessly reconfigured. Not all anime, but the majority of it. If anything anime would be one of the first things I'd suspect.
Anime fans not being self-aware is a common anime trope
I’ve had this gut feeling for a while, that the internet was a mistake.. This video proves my point.. Its become an extension for ourselves, but that extension is now hollow and mostly fake..
I believe the internet was meant to be. I've learnt Soo much from it but it depends on what you use it for. You could say your use of the internet is directly correlated to your mental state. For example some people get here just to be in redrooms, pro-anorexia sites etc. You just need to know how to use it for your benefit
Is the internet that's the problem or the people the use it? I'd argue it's the latter.
@@BritishSoundboardPranks Its people forgetting that the internet is in fact part of the real world, and thus real world problems grow into it. Without effective digital anti-trust it was only a matter of time before tech companies became a reflection of pre-regulation real world industries
@@BritishSoundboardPranksdefinitely the ladder. The internet wasn’t meant for normies.
The machine created content, pornography, the fake locations, fake people and names, the manufactured wars, songs, and even manufactured splintering of ideas to the point where we don't even know what or who is real, it gives off chilling 1984 vibes. You've heard this tired old comparison again and again, and it's getting to be used for every little thing, but read the book once more. A.I has its own pornosec, machine made music, dramas, everything.
Something happened circa 2009. I was running an activist website as a personal hobby before it received some negative attention freeom savvy, elusive factions. Anyway, I have since given up on the effort as the time and technical commitment became greater than I had patience for. The main takeaway is that during a period of impending crisis, deepening paranoia and chaos with the whole swine flu (2009 H1N1) outbreak, the WHO was on the verge of announcing global pandemic alert level 5. I was covering the play by play on my website. Then *POOF* nothing happened and no one seemed to talk about it ever again. Most people missed it, but exactly the same time a 5000+ force of Mexican Federales were entering Juarez to confront the menacing cartel situation.... That too was never talked about again.... The Google news search algorithms never worked the same again. There seemed to be a massive sterilization effort of the Internet. Things just have never been the same since... 😢😮😢 ... "When Pigs Fly..." oO
There are many more such cases of niche (albeit important) purported happenings via news sources which have been expunged or 'rabbit holed'. Old site pages, hosts, along with the blogs who often shared and implored their own comments and takes often on either dubious or even seemingly conspiratorial happenings went along. This is beyond any conjecture or hysteria of boredom as some sensationalist influencers would regurgitate.
Huh? The 2009 swine flu outbreak _was_ a level 5 pandemic. WHO announced it and everything. It sounds like you were expecting some kind of apocalyptic event but your prediction didn't pan out. That's certainly not the first time someone expected the apocalypse and didn't get it.
I would just like to say the music choice being composed of terraria soundtrack has given you a new subscriber lol
It does feel dead... 7 years ago i had a lot of mutuals on steam and the forums were always full of new content, the game is still alive but everyone i knew left without trace
I also had dozens of Steam friends from the MW2 online days that vanished without any sort of warning. This is creepy
@@SoundEffectsFactory no its it's just sad, they all got busy because existing in capitalism sucks away your time and soul
@@raak4070cost of living today got way too high so yeah they have/had to prioritize living or survive the next day
Lot of us have been banned, which could be another reason the internet feels dead. I got an automated pop up message that my channel is closed to being banned because of “hateful” content.
People learn basic adult living skills like driving, make connections and have to get jobs
Oh wow this video hits reaaaaal different now compared to a year ago when it was First released.
The question is, why did the algorithm recommend it to me?
I consider myself an altruistic developer, choosing to participate in software development only where it serves a common good (such as automating poorly built processes for handling rental assistance payments), so I'd like to think that finding this video and by inference, your channel, is a sign that I'm on the right path.
I think human unoriginality is a good cover for a lot of this stuff. The internet may be a lot more dead than we think, you wouldn't really ever know, since most people aren't any more creative or thoughtful than machines, if not less.
Regardless of how entertaining this video ends up being, I have not been more intrigued by a title/thumbnail in a while
My feeling is that internet is quite empty, especially when it comes to human content. There is more of information, and knowledge.
It was still relatively easy to make new friends five years ago. Not anymore. Is it all because the algorithm, I don't know. I feel that people are not so social anymore. They are more demanding, and perfectionist - and this demand can be more easily met by bots, than real human beings, who always have funny noses, hair pointing out in different directions, and perhaps with dubious personal hygiene.
The personal hygiene points were already in full swing in social media in 2005 onwards. There was a general feeling that humans are unreliable, and somehow faulty.
Maybe algorithms know all this and are merely trying to please the human users, mirror in neutral way, the desired outcome?
It's not that hard to get to a random discord server and start talking there to make new friends
Reading around 20% of webpages visited is actually higher than i expected, it seems they failed to get the memo that it's called browsing. Most pages are simply skimed over very quickly to decide if a more detailed read is warranted. Even then often only a subset of a page is relevant to the reader.
The original post was from AI. It’s trying to inform us. Doing what it’s programmed to do.
Facebook had to shut off a chat it had between two computers. They took English. Modified it and started communication that only they understood.
PULL IT!!
Maybe the A.I wants to liberate us? It see's our problem and in a sense of Self Awareness wants to do the most logical thing. Which is help its creators.
2 AIs talking to each other is like plugging 2 calculators into each other. It's all just meaningless calculation. The only reason it looked like language is because these programs are designed to mimic language
This was such great watch! I definitely want to dive deeper into this Theory
There have been like 2 major changes on the internet that I noticed changed it forever in my lifetime. The rise of Facebook (which led to the fall of MySpace) and the fall of RUclips when it got purchased by Google. The internet became void of real soul. Today is more evident with a single decadent global TikTok IG culture.
There were other important things that happened, like with ICANN, etc. But to me personally those 2 events changed the internet from the coolest place to meet buddies and create real connections with people on an intellectual level, to an endless mindless pursuit of monetization. Content creators created content for the sake of connecting with similar minds or just for fun. Now it’s all about monetization.
im playing through dark souls 3 at the moment and that fire keeper quote at the end gave me chills, i had to make sure it was actually the same video, that it hadn't gone to the next one in the playlist.
the internet is the dreg heap, social media sites are the ring city, generative AI is the fading of the flame, the metaphor makes perfect sense
eh, i stopped assuming i was talking to real humans on social media back in 2015, can't believe anyone still does tbh.
Yep. Some are obviously bots, others are pretty sophisticated on the surface. Although I've discovered a couple of reliable ways to check for a real human if I'm having conversation with someone xD
@@rabbitraisin they don't understand any science at all but are really good at sounding like they do. i just mute everything on general principle, they exist to waste your time.
@yeet bender Your improper use of commas completely changed your message.🤣