Kirby Music Trivia - Triple Deluxe
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- Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024
- How much do YOU know about the music of Kirby Triple Deluxe? Well, if you want to learn more, watch this video! Hopefully you learn something cool, and at the bare minimum you'll get to hear some great music.
Music belongs to HAL Laboratories.
Gameplay footage from Nintendo Utopia.
Spring Smash Factory was the original instance of the main triple deluxe leitmotif according to one of the miiverse posts. The composer liked it enough to keep reusing it throughout the rest of the ost.
That's interesting! Somewhat relatedly, I saw a RUclips comment saying that Fine Fields - Prarie Area was the first song made for the game (based on internal naming), though I don't have an official source
@@CommanderJersey According to WiKirby, the internal codename for "Mysterious Rocks Rumbling from Behind" (the actual name of that theme) is BGM_LP_PARUFE1, and since "PARUFE" is the internal codename for Kirby: Triple Deluxe, it was likely _one of_ the first composed, but it wasn't THE first.
It sounds like a true ‘main theme’ to Triple Deluxe then
see this is when being a triple deluxe fanatic pays off
edit: holy cow im getting clout take that planet robobot fans
Thank you for spotlighting fine fields!! Excellent taste :) Another odd bit of trivia which wasn't mentioned here is how the music that plays during the opening cutscene syncs up pretty much perfectly with that of Return to DreamLand, seriously, it is shockingly accurate! Main differences are that the section that plays while Taranza kidnaps Dedede is a little more energetic and 'dramatic' (?) than what plays when they meet up with Magolor, and that Return to DreamLand's intro is just slightly longer, but still, if you put Triple Deluxe's music over RTDL's intro it just looks and sounds right! I wonder if there were some behind the scenes production constraints that forced them to make them like this, maybe the intros couldn't be too long for budget reasons and that was the optimal way to pace both? I haven't checked if Planet Robobot's also syncs up but I wouldn't be surprised if it did, either way, this video is pretty great and sorry for the long comment! :P
This is a pretty nice video overall, I think it would've been neat if you mentioned the two composers for this game by name though, Jun Ishikawa and Hirokazu Ando; they've been making music for the Kirby franchise pretty much since the beginning (Ishikawa started with the original Kirby's Dream Land, Ando started with Adventure)
2:39 This is close to correct, but in a more roundabout way; the snippet of Interdimensional Traveler you used here starts with an abstracted version of Magolor, the Far-Flung Traveler's B melody, but transitions into a quote of The Adventure Begins' B melody at 2:42 (which Magolor's original theme also does.) The Adventure Begins is one of the defining themes of Return to Dream Land, with C-R-O-W-N-E-D revolving around TAB's B melody at 2:44
8:34 Beautiful Prison's changing rhythms are a characteristic shared with Meddlesome Marx from Super Star, which checks out, since both songs were from Jun Ishikawa. And, fun fact, Hirokazu Ando once said that his favorite song from Ishikawa was Beautiful Prison. In a Forbes interview from 2018 titled "The Music Of Kirby: Still Tickling Gamers Pink", Ando said he noticed the song's overflowing originality while arranging it for the cutscene song "Divine Beauty"
WiKirby is a pretty good resource if you ever want look into the composers themselves, they've got lists of songs that Ishikawa and Ando have been credited to, and some fun trivia (Did you know Hirokazu Ando took samples from a real NES to make Toy Rhythm? (Source is from an old Miiverse post from 2015, a list of HAL Labs' Miiverse posts can be found on WiKirby))
Thanks for sharing those sources! The Forbes interview was really interesting, I had never heard of it before 😀
True, WiKirby is the best resource for the Kirby series
Correction: 2:42 isn't "The Adventure Begins", it's "Four Adventurers: Cookie Country", specifically the variant originating from "A Visitor from Afar".
Also, as a WiKirby editor who specializes in music coverage: happy to see the site get recognition for these kinds of things :D
Here's a bunch more fun facts that you probably already knew:
"A Forest Hike" is a remix of "Mountain Stage", the theme for Yogurt Yard in Kirby's Adventure.
"Must Dash" is a loose arrangement of "Reflected Laughter" (or maybe it's the other way around I don't really know).
"Spinning Jungle" shares a very similar melody to "Vs. Star Dream" from Kirby: Planet Robobot, but the composer Hirokazu Ando confirmed that this was simply a coincidence.
"Kirby Fighters" (the Kirby Fighters title screen theme) is a remix of "Boss Battle" from Kirby Super Star but at a faster tempo that makes it more similar to "Peanut Plains", which "Boss Battle" is based on.
Shadow Kirby's battle jingle from Kirby Fighters is a pretty obvious remix of the opening of "Bouncing Boss Battle".
The arrangement from "The Adventure Begins" used in Stage 7 EX of Royal Road is called "The Adventure Begins/Original Short ver." (or "GCK_plants" internally), meaning that it was likely actually the original version of the theme, composed for the cancelled Kirby GameCube game.
"Revenge of the Enemy" is a pretty obvious arrangement of "Spring Smash Factory" and of course "Green Greens".
"Royal Warp" (the jingle that plays when King Dedede goes through a warp hole in Dededetour) is an arrangement of a short section of "The King and the Sun" from Kirby Super Star Ultra, a.k.a. King Dededepression's Theme.
Both "Arena Showdown", "True Arena Showdown", and both arena's title screen themes are arrangements of the themes from Kirby Super Star (Ultra).
"A Well-Earned Rest" is an arrangement of "Helper's Rest" from Kirby Super Star Ultra, which is an arrangement of "Ripple Star: Stage Select" from Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards.
Didn’t know The Adventure Begins (as a short version of this game) was originally supposed to be used for the cancelled game instead of Kirby’s Return to Dream Land
Is there any source or full-on reasoning towards "Boss Battle" being based off of Peanut Plains? I'm genuinely asking, as I'm not pinpointing a significant similarity between the tracks.
@@BrightBuld it's hard to hear since they're at different tempos, but it's definitely intentional. it's easier to compare peanut plains to the boss battle arrangement of "history of kirby fighters" from kirby fighters 2, since that has a similar tempo.
Based RHV additions
My go (warning: these will be more conjectural and/or loose):
1. The first melody of "Fatal Blooms in Moonlight" could be derived from "Sky at Sunset"
2. The first half of the melody of "Golden Legend" is similar to "Cave Stage" from Kirby Super Star, while the latter half is potentially a predecessor to "The Wastes Where Life Began"
I love the Kirby series so much especially the soundtracks in Kirby and The Forgotten land.
I think my favorite trivia is all the references in the opening theme. My favorite part is when we see Taranza, we can hear his theme, as he is escaping with Dedede we can hear a bit of World to Win and my favorite part. As Kirby is running towards the dream stalk, the finals notes of the opening are the first notes we hear in Bouncing Boss Battle, just slowed down
It can be somewhat frustrating to pin down the name of a Kirby song because you could use the localized name, the direct translation from Japanese name, the internal name, or the context as the name, and when their used in a medley such as "Meta Knight's Revenge" it can cover up the original names.
“Distant traveler” actually originated from “Dream collection”.
Which itself was remixed as a secret staff credits music in Dedede’s Drum Dash Deluxe
Further trivia, Moonstruck Blossom is an unofficial name (if I'm not mistaken, it's based on the direct japanese translation), the official one is Fatal Blooms in Moonlight.
But i've heard Japenese speakers also say Fatal Blossoms on Moonlight and Moonstruck Blossom
Moonstruck blossom was the name given to the track in the original EU release of the soundtrack, it was later changed to fatal blooms in moonlight in subsequent english releases!
the japanese name is 狂花水月- (madness flower, moon water). It is a pun on both the term for flowers blooming out of season and the idiom “ 镜花水月” (mirror flower, water moon) - which refers to a purity or beauty that is fleeting or illusory/ cannot be touched.
as a huge lifelong sectonia fan, i prefer moonstruck blossom as a localised name for the track- i like the pun of the flower literally being cast against the moon but also “moonstruck” (driven mad by love). i think its neat and apt!
@@sectraaaaaa So it had a different name in only one region and for a limited time? That's weird, dunno why they'd do it.
And the japanese name is very clever, it probably wouldn't sound as good translated but there's a lot of meaning behind it.
@BlueKirby64 I think it was also referred to as moonstruck blossom on miiverse but i’d have to check
Oh my goodness PLEASE do more of these in the future
I should note: Regarding Distant Traveler, it uses the original "Dream Collection New Challenge Stages" rendition, however an "acoustic" version WAS made for the Triple Deluxe CD, before eventually seeing the light of day in the extra credits of Drum Dash Deluxe, along with Robobot's True Arena.
And for a fun little piece of bonus trivia: The Hypernova theme has a sneaky remix of the ending theme from Kirby's Adventure!
Probably everyone knows this, but Toy Rhythm was actually composed using a real NES! The sounds pulled off the NES development board(?) have also been used in later games too!
A Kirby music analysis video from THE Commander Jersey? Sure, why not!
This is a really well done video, Commander. I was actually shocked to learn that there was some reasoning behind Silver Snow Story being a rearrangement of Peanut Plains!
Very nice video! Here's a bunch of nitpicks:
1:31 The name of the Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards version is "Ripple Star", the same name as the level it plays in.
4:35 The actual name from the Kirby Star Allies soundtrack (translated from Japanese) is "Mysterious Rocks Rumbling from Behind".
5:20 The actual name from the Kirby Super Star Ultra soundtrack (translated from Japanese) is simply just "King Dedede's Theme".
5:27 The actual name from the Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe Jukebox is "Macho of Dedede".
5:35 The actual name is "Sun, Sky, Dreamstalk", but I think that was just a typo lol (and also it's moreso a combination of the two main themes of the game).
6:35 "Moonstruck Blossom" was renamed to "Fatal Blooms in Moonlight" in the Kirby: Triple Deluxe Soundtrack (since it was only really called "Moonstruck Blossom" on Miiverse).
7:18 "Spring Smash Factory" was actually the first theme Hirokazu Ando composed for Kirby: Triple Deluxe, and every other theme that has the same leitmotif (and even "Floral Fields") is based on it.
7:37 Extremely minor nitpick, but it's called "Taranza, *the* Master of Puppetry".
Thanks! I'm bad at finding the official names for tracks, HAL adding official names for songs is one of my favorite quality of life changes in recent games
@@CommanderJersey I think my other reply might have been hidden by RUclips since it had a link, but it said that WiKirby's "Jukebox" pages have all official names for tracks that have them, and also points out when unofficial names are used.
I feel like I have question the practice of nitpicking about getting official names of Kirby soundtracks wrong. Quite a few mainline games' OSTs do not have localized track names (FL and RTDL DX were kind enough to include localized names in the Jukebox, and PR's soundtrack was digitally released with localized names, but TDX and SA still don't have official localizations IIRC, and then there's the mess known as trying to search for official track names in the older games), so the closest thing we have are fan translations of official Japanese track names from the Soundtrack CDs. Even then, Nintendo (Nintendo is probably the ones doing the translations, with HAL being the supervisors) can decide to stray from the Japanese names, like with the case of "Under My Control" being localized as "Welcome Your New Overlord". Moreover, names of tracks can sometimes straight-up be retconned, like "Moonstruck Blossom" being renamed to "Fatal Blooms in Moonlight". This is not even mentioning how obscure some sources of localized names are (boy I sure do love seeing if a modern game decided to give a name to a track from like 20 years ago that it reused). Can we really correct people over unofficial or dubiously official track names?
I think that it is fine that people get track names wrong, as long as it is clear what track they are talking about (for example, it's pretty obvious what theme "Mt. Dedede" is referring to so that doesn't need to be corrected, but situations like using the unofficial "Looming Darkness" for "Another Dimension" and the unofficial "Another Dimension" for "Fly! Kirby" do need to be corrected due to the mess that muddling up those names can cause).
i'd love a video on the kirby wii leitmotif (a leitmotif found in a handful of songs in return to dream land's soundtrack, including an unused track, and even epic yarn, speculated to have been the main theme of one of the projects that ultimately became return to dream land). or maybe just a video on return to dream land's soundtrack in general.
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We need more kirby music analysis videos, keep at it bro! We should def talk about kirby music together sometime since I'm also a huge kirby music nerd (despite not knowing music theory too well lol)
I think Kirby Mass Attack might be a pretty good idea for another one of these if you're planning on doing more. There's quite a few remixes that might be interesting to look into like the Kirby Air Ride/Kirby anime remixes you can hear at different points in the game.
Regarding "Floral Fields" being related to "Prism Plains": you can actually see the growth of Jun Ishikawa's style based on grass area themes and themes related to those. I find that there's two ramifications: "Peanut Plains" (in "Friendly Field" mainly) and most importantly, "Grass Land (3)" from Kirby's Dream Land 3 ("Prism Plains", "Beyond the Hill", "Floral Fields", "Welcome to Wondaria", "Free Rolling 1"). The latter branch in particular is interesting, the whole "Kirby Wii motif" idea stems from it, because between Squeak Squad and Return to Dream Land, Jun Ishikawa added a couple new components. I do believe that both of them are present in "Floral Fields".
.... well that was a relatively long ramble. I'll end the comment more lightly, I just wanted to say that I love your music compilations and am enjoying this video :) I've yet to reach the end, but it's probably best that I stop now😅
not gonna lie you should make this be a series for alot of kirby games in general
i think it'd be interesting to see an amazing mirror related episode and a squeak squad one
Love to see you've been making content all these years. I remember finding your channel through the Kirby Star Allies OST and your Mario Kart mix got me through many homework deadline crams over the years. Keep up the good stuff.
3:50 I've been thinking about this for years
this video was great! I wish it went on forever!
The Kirby music GOAT
One minor thing: leitmotiv is pronounced "lite" + "motive".
It just bugged me. (4:50)
Nevertheless, cool video. I am open to more of these, as I am a big fan of kirby music (through your radio), too.
Are you gonna make another one about Kirby Planet Robobot? :D
first stage of grief for planet robobot fans: denial
@@pigeonsandabandeetoo WDYM I have full confidence Jersey will make a KPR vid! >:)))))))
@@Mexican_Robobot42 stage 2: anger at triple deluxe fans over not having a video made about them
stage 3: bargaining by trying to forget this is real
@@pigeonsandabandeetoo Stage 4 cancer when? 🥺🥺🥺🥺
Crazy, just replayed and beat this 100% again
In Kirby’s Dream Collection, the Smash Bros EX Chamber music is actually from the Kirby Anime series. Which, that people I’ve talked to sounded familiar to a Smash Bros theme especially Melee, is made from a producer from Melee aswell!
Man, this is such great timing. I just finished Triple Deluxe and I'm going on to Robobot.
Woah, I just found that Jersey made a video analyzing this ost.
please make a video like this about forgotten land
Jersey be like, "Oh goodness forgotten land stop. I don't want to make a video on this-"
One of my favorite Kirby games, so good.
Please do a Star Allies Music Trivia video.
An example of music trivia for Star Allies is with the song Twinkle Traveller (the Friend Star theme).
At a certain point in the song, there's a section that sounds like Heavy Lobster's theme. Another thing I'd like to point out is that it vaguely sounds like the English opening theme of Kirby Right Back At Ya. I put Twinkle Traveller and the English opening theme together and they sort of fitted.
the welcome to wondaria theme from forgotten land has a very similar melody to moonlight capital :]
More of these videos please!
You forgot to mention that Spinning Jungle sounds exactly like Star Dream's theme!
Perhaps don't forget to put it in the Planet Robobot music trivia video.
hi commander jersey, i have been gone for a few months (or yrs), and im glad to be back!
Good stuff and I thought you were going to mention one of the more obvious ones which is world to when being a different version of the Hypernova theme. Also, when you mentioned the motif in Moonstruck blossom, it reminded me that my GF just said that the regular boss theme is better because it's a faster version of that theme which I found funny.
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Shoot I literally just finished playing triple deluxe! Great vid
I have always wondered why is there a connection between beautifun prison and reflected laughter (and must dash), like, one is a place made of crystal, the other one is a haunted house or a circus. How or why does that work like that?
haven't played any kirby in months yet i still knew most of these lol B)
distant traveller it's actually from the 20th anniversary collection on wii.
Great video, but Midnight Moonlight is an important piece to just leave out.
It may be hard, but can you try Forgotten Land?
But Forgotten Land is a totally new game, and very few tracks were brought back in this game
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The best music in all of Kirby is Supreme Rulers Coronation-OVERLORD phase 2.
Man I actually didn't know about Lor Starcutter being in Distant Traveler. Also for me Fine Fields actually sounds like it could be Yoshi's Island DS music and I agree that it's really good! Anyway amazing video as always Jersey!👍
5:50 It's "Waking to a Flowery Coup", not Walking
Great video idea
Now i wish i played triple deluxe :(
Now i have dw
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Oh hi! Sorry if I answer now!
Your voice sounds soft 😱
Random Edit: Idk if I’m for KSSU cuz I keep saying random things :/
[I’m someone who camed late in the KLR somehow, but I don't belong because I am a particular person]
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It’s nice that you would do the history / summary of music from Kirby Triple Deluxe as a celebration for the game’s 10th anniversary! Kirby Triple Deluxe soundtracks are one of my favourite Kirby series soundtracks and most of the tracks are being brought back in subsequent games and I didn’t know the game also had two ‘main themes’ (Spring Smash Factory - as the game’s main theme, also used in Revenge of the Enemy, and Floral Fields - as the game’s second main theme) similar to Kirby and the Forgotten Land.
Here are some of the well known recurring themes from earlier games that are used in Kirby Triple Deluxe:
‘A Forest Hike’ - is a ‘Yogurt Yard’ theme, first debuted in Kirby’s Adventure
‘Masked Dedede’ - a boss battle theme, first appeared in Kirby Super Star Ultra
‘Distant Traveler’ - a dimensional theme based on Magolor’s theme, first appeared in Kirby’s Dream Collection
‘Sliver Snow Story’ - a winter track theme, first appeared in Kirby Super Star which is also used in the second credits with ‘Green Greens’
I would like to see you do a Kirby and the Amazing Mirror summary music next
i'm the 1000th viewer. Awesome because nobody asked.