I’m confused they saying giannis asked for this and that’s why he has more pressure.. but dame asked for it too lol he’s the one who demanded a trade to win a chip
To me he's 2 and Wilt is 1, but that's just me. But to the world. Giannis is already in everyone under 55 top 20 - 30 all time. He is already one of the greats. Idk why these comments speak of him like he is still slept on giannis in 2019 😂. @@smacnealpaige
There is no way Giannis can have more pressure than Dame. If that is the case, then it automatically means Dame is not a superstar or in fact never was. I don't think many people will be willing to concede that.
@@AdrianJohnson-d2vMultiple All NBA selections would say otherwise. Dame’s clutch numbers would say otherwise. His 32ppg would say otherwise. Just admit your brain struggles to function
That's an interesting opinion on this topic. At first I didn't necessarily agree with you but after a second thought, I think I do. Dame needs to win a title and the freak already has one. Dame is going to have to score against the guy he replaced to get to the finals. Jru isn't a pushover. He won't be guarding Giannis. Dame was the missing piece to get the Bucks back to the championship parade.
Joys wrong Giannis had no idea. He heard they might be talking to Dame but he had no idea they were going to lose Jrue and I know for a fact he doesn't have Dames number he has rule he doesn't have any numbers of other players in his phone unless he plays with them or used to play with them.
Joy missing the point when Acho says homegrown. The core of the bucks big three meaning khris and giannis are homegrown. Khris may not have been drafted to the bucks but he only played his rookie season with Detroit. The majority of his career has been with the bucks therefore he is homegrown
It’s known that Horst didn’t tell Giannis that jrue was apart of the deal.. to make sure there was no conflict. Giannis statement about jrue getting traded was beautiful. Calling out the media for assuming..
Jrue Holiday is the biggest loser. He wanted to retire a buck. I feel bad for him, he did so much for the community in Milwaukee and was always the Team mate of year. Love that we got Dame, but Jrue is a buck for life and Legend for us
@dethincarnate1149 nah let's see what he does first if he goes to certain teams bucks are in trouble and or he could flip the west depending on certain teams
@Ceas1hunit I don't think most people understand the impact a player like that has on a championship level team just go watch what he and KD did for team USA and weeks b4 that watch what he did to booker and Chris Paul in the finals dude an absolute .
@@DeadPoolLilCuzin1567as a guy who loves himself some giannis your actually 100 percent right. And the bucks losing vs the heat last year was on him for his reckless play that got himself hurt. And his lack of sudden mental fortitude when the bucks were easily handling the heat when he came back mostly because of Giannis. But crumbled when the heat made there last ditch effort 4th quarter runs in game 4 and 5.
Theirs no way Acho is acting this oblivious about a 1 year hall of famer joining a team, when that was literally the case the year the bucks won because they acquired Jrue after Giannis voiced his concerns with the future of the bucks just like he has done recently.
Home grown teams at least 2 of your star players either have to have been drafted by the team or got there either in their rookie season or second season , 1, Golden state 2, bucks 3, nuggets, 4 Memphis 5,Raptors 6, Celtics 7 ,Timberwolves 8,heat are the legit homegrown teams that come to mind they developed their star players.
The bucks won the championship. The first year Jrue holiday showed up Jrue Holiday has been a bucks for three years.Year one championship year two bounced in the second round year three bounced in the first round.
Dame clearly has more pressure. Giannis definitely has almost as much pressure. I may concede that it's equal pressure only because Giannis is being mentioned with big names in NBA history. As if now, Dame is not on the level of Giannis, which is why Giannis by default has immense pressure. Dame's pressure comes from the fact that hes been complaining for the longest.
People forget the bucks were injured all season and got the first seed. Thats how good they are. Adding dame, the most important thing is health. If they stay healthy they will not be beat. If they stay healthy its no longer about if they will win, but its gonna be about how many they’ll win. LETS GO BUCKS
Giannis has higher All-Time upside. Dame is top 75 and people want him to get a ring. But it’s not like a chip puts him into “All-Time” territory. Giannis has potential to be a Top 10 all-time player which means he needs at least 4 rings.
I’ll put Giannis top 10 if he rings 1 more ring and/or MVP/DPOY 2 rings 3 potential mvps or 2 potentiao DPOY is top 10 material over Steph Shaq or Hakeem
Giannis because he’s going for a top 10 all time spot. A title for Dame would just cement his all-time great status in the upper echelon of players. Giannis tryna win Ringsssss like Bean🐍
0:56 it was made pretty clear giannis wasn’t involved cos that would mean giving the green light on trading away Jrue, which would be difficult despite it clearly being the right trade. Also would’ve heart the locker room.
KD won the minute he hooked up with the Dubs. Wiggins became an All-Star starter and champion in his first full year with the Dubs. All you stars with no rings still looking, what're you waiting for?
Acho you way off . The suns will be there and they will be amongst the trans with the most wins . There will be tough to beat. KD went to the ECF loss game 7 without kyrie
19 - Kawhi came straight in and won. 20 - AD 21 - Jrue. Not a superstar but definitely a part of the nucleus. 22 - Wiggins and JP. Now Wiggins had been there for 1 extra season and JP in the G league so I guess u could talk about JP knowing the system though he was a new addition to the first team. A bit of a shaky argument non the less 😬
Giannis does have a lot of pressure on him mainly because now he HAS TO PRODUCE a title because his organization did all they could for him so he has to return the favor! Dame will play a large part in this endeavor. Bucks also added cam Payne, solid backup Pg addition that we desperately needed
@@coreychillis9754 who wants to give up an elite guard? Unless you're trading with an idiot team like the browns or bears in the NFL, you have to give fairly equal return in one form or another when trading.
Acho really like the show. You said that you wasn't a good player. Well you're pretty good as a Host, analyst ,TV personality all of it. U R a smart dude.enjoying it. Keep it 💯
Y’all talking like Giannis don’t alraady have a championship talking about he better deliver lmao he already did he wanted that right to demand whatever tf he wants
The Boston Celtics did it first year when KG, da truth, and Ray Ray got to together. But it was a great fit for all three of them. Oh and don't let me act like Rondo wasn't a factor.
Giannis has more pressure because he’s the historically greater player. Nobody before the trade was thinking “Dame gotta get a championship before he retires.”
@@coreybreiland7586 Nobody looks at Dame that way. Nobody says he's even a top 50 player of all time(I think he's top 40). I've never heard before this trade "Dame has to win a title" so you guys are lying to yourselves. When you're in that Lebron, Joker, Giannis level with multiple MVP's is when we hold you to a higher standard, especially with him being a small guard. Nobody looked at AI and said "He has to get a ring." Dame doesn't even have an MVP. If he doesn't win we'll remember him but our kids won't. If he wins and wins big (2 or more) our kids will. It's that simple.
@@sirisaacmormont5445 one of the biggest things is that AI never won a ring lol everyone has looked at Dame that way. He's been the #2 PG behind steph. Now what do you say? Does he have to win now?
@@coreybreiland7586 Well the reality is Giannis has to win more or his career is a failure. There's not a reason in the world, other than being held back by an organization, that one with the physical gifts of Giannis, should only get one ring in their career. Small guard aren't your prototypical #1 option for a championship. There's the greatest shooter of all time in Curry, and Isaiah Thomas as the only small guards to lead teams to rings. It just doesn't happen in a game of giants.
This is 3 football minds talking about basketball. I feel like that’s why their basketball takes are always all over the place. In no way shape or form is the pressure on Giannis he’s already won before. Dame hasn’t really been close to it so obviously the pressure is on him.
It's on both of them, they're both in the pressure cooker, It's on Giannis because he's won a chip and he's a 2x MVP, and a Dpoy, so it's on Giannis in that light, it's on Dame because he's a all time great guard who hasn't won the chip so it's both.
SANE PERSON!! Dwight was THRICE Defensive Player of the Year!!! THERE'S NO WAY that accomplishments =/= top 75!! Dame doesn't even have a defensive TEAM selection
ima say Giannis, any leader/best player on a team gets the most pressure. We already seen Giannis won without a top 10 player so now I think he has to deliver. But that’s life. and if he’s a true leader he knows that.
Joy is not an analyst!! She is a great mediator. That's what she needs to be doing on this show. They are giving her takes and then Acho continuously doubles down on her takes to create some sense of creditibility.. stop it... please
Try to create false narrative no one is under pressure Charles Barkley look like he under pressure ? Those ppl winning even without a championship just dont get into legal trouble
I think neither Giannis nor Dame under pressure. Rest of the Nba will be under pressure. And i dont think this Bucks team will need time to adjust. They will play great from the first game of the season until the last game of the finals that they will win
I agree that Milwaukee will be really good day one but I don’t think it’s an easy chip.. Keep in mind this kind of puts a target on Milwaukees back.. Especially if they meet Miami in the playoffs Miami gonna be out to prove somethin haha
@@thuggwaffle8825 I dont think Heat is gonna be anywhere near championship for a decade. They should go allin for Dame but they didnt. The only team that can be a trouble for Bucks is Celtics if they can land Jrue imo.
@@nikeguy2 How exatcly Miami allin? Even when u look what Bucks gave up for Dame u can see that is not the case. Bucks basicly gave up on Jrue+Allen(who is just 8m salary player)+1 1st round pick+pick swaps. This is basically Jrue+ 1 1st round pick not even 2 1st round picks. Part of the trade where Portland got Ayton is between Suns and Portland. Miami had these assets to give up; Herro, Jovic, Jaquez and 2 future 1st round picks. I am not even putting the Martin out there. This package i wrote is much more than that Bucks gave obviously. Miami didnt wanna gave up Jovic and Jaquez. They offered Herro+ 2 1st round picks and some trash players which they dont want on team like Robinson or else. If they would offer Herro+Jovic+Jaquez+2 1st round this basically means Herro+4 1st round and Portland would gladly accept that.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say this KD is done being a leader or the player to make a difference in big games, he’s declining due to age, wear and tear + injury He’s can’t even play 55 + games at his level…this is another year of decline… His time is done, he’s 35 years old, averaged 35 games per season the past 4 years and only played 137 games total… Everyone isn’t Lebron, he’s not even going to be a Top 10 player in the league THIS season..
I agree. Lebron has also been done since 2020. He can statpad all he wants during the regular season but he's never going back to finals forget winning it.
What are these people talking about bro. It’s Dame!!!! His whole career he has been excused for not winning because he didn’t have a “good” team around him. He LITERALLY has that now so if he doesn’t win, WHATS HIS EXCUSE?!!!
I can see the argument though. If we are speaking homegrown by NBA standards, it usually means you were drafted and developed by said team. If we are speaking in literal sense, I agree that he is homegrown.
If Giannis is Giannis in the playoffs and they lose you can't blame him when it's a team game. Even thou he got hurt in the Playoffs he came back and had good numbers and they still lost to the Heat in 5 games, some of the games were high-scoring.
If from this point on, Dame and Giannis don’t win a championship. Giannis is still a top 15-20 player all time. With a championship, 2mvps and dpoy. Dame is a top 75 player all time, with all star appearances, with no championship. Someone who had his chances with another superstar to win rings with, but didn’t. Now, who exactly needs this ring more. The guy who doesn’t have one or the guy who does. How is this hard
Mia lost when they didn't bring the two dogs back and either trade or buy out Lowry. Sixers don't have depth Plus harden trouble Bos is definitely in it and they have 3 scores and depth deeper than bucks Big situation could be Siakam. Who can get him. Can an east team get him in a big three?
It's Giannis who has the most pressure since he's the 2 time MVP and best player on the team. Dame is just gonna start being judged a little bit more harsh now that he's on a contender.
Equal pressure, Dame for obvious reasons, but Gianni asked for a good position to win and they got him the next best thing to steph curry...he better deliver a chip.
It's true that Miami fans are overly delusional after last year's run - but for the Bucks to be "embarrassed" by losing to a "play-in" team then MIA should be ousted in the second round. However, the bucks lost to the conference champion because MIA won NY and BOS if I remember correctly. So, that argument doesn't stand.
Why is this even the topic? They're on the same team. They share the same amount of cheers and boos. They share the same amount of pressure to win. They need each other now to win the finals. There isn't a loser in this 3 team trade. All 3 teams got what they wanted and needed. Bucks: Dame brings the outside scoring and clutch shooting Phoenix: they got the depth to contend Portland: they got younger to build for the future
@@dominiquerobinson8888 They have the same amount of pressure because they now need each other to be great to win a championship. If Lillard went to Miami I would agree with you but he didn't. He's with Giannis in Milwaukee.
@@ZTK06 Every best player on a championship team needs their co star. But it’s the best player on that team who is gonna receive the most pressure cause they’re the ones held to a higher standard.
@@dominiquerobinson8888 That's not always the case. I can name situations where the 2nd guy had more pressure. AD in LA with LBJ Anywhere KD has played PG with Kawhi in LA Ben Simmons with Embiid in Philly Westbrook with Harden in Houston This Bucks duo is different. The only way this works is if they balance each other out. Plus Lillard will be taking the majority of the clutch shots or free throws. So it's on both of them to be great no matter who the best player is.
@@ZTK06 Lebron and Kawhi were the ones with the most pressure. When they lost in those series in the playoffs it was them who were respectfully taking most of the scrutiny. And even with non championship teams the expectations were more on Embiid and Harden to show up
Well I’m looking forward to seeing what Giannis and Dame do but I don’t think they the best in the east. Celtics are looking scary they got more star talent in every position
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I’m confused they saying giannis asked for this and that’s why he has more pressure.. but dame asked for it too lol he’s the one who demanded a trade to win a chip
Giannis needs to win more for his historical ranking
Facts I agree but as far as “right now pressure” it’s clearly Dame
@SuperWizzle85 Yea but Giannis better start win if he wants to get up by the all time greats.. He has a ways to go.
Giannis is only below Wilt and maybe MJ and Lebron at this point. It's not much more he can do but chase rings 😂😂.
@@MentallyUnhappyso Giannis is the 4th best player ever? 🤔
To me he's 2 and Wilt is 1, but that's just me. But to the world. Giannis is already in everyone under 55 top 20 - 30 all time. He is already one of the greats. Idk why these comments speak of him like he is still slept on giannis in 2019 😂. @@smacnealpaige
There is no way Giannis can have more pressure than Dame. If that is the case, then it automatically means Dame is not a superstar or in fact never was. I don't think many people will be willing to concede that.
DAME is only a superstar because he is flashy and cool with alot of commercials. Because if you go by accomplishments Dame isn't a superstar.
@@AdrianJohnson-d2vso only players who have a mvp or championship are superstars? what accomplishments are u talkin about
@@AdrianJohnson-d2vMultiple All NBA selections would say otherwise. Dame’s clutch numbers would say otherwise. His 32ppg would say otherwise. Just admit your brain struggles to function
That's an interesting opinion on this topic. At first I didn't necessarily agree with you but after a second thought, I think I do. Dame needs to win a title and the freak already has one. Dame is going to have to score against the guy he replaced to get to the finals. Jru isn't a pushover. He won't be guarding Giannis.
Dame was the missing piece to get the Bucks back to the championship parade.
A non MVP no titles superstar?.
Joys wrong Giannis had no idea. He heard they might be talking to Dame but he had no idea they were going to lose Jrue and I know for a fact he doesn't have Dames number he has rule he doesn't have any numbers of other players in his phone unless he plays with them or used to play with them.
She be assuming a lot and since she a heat fan she’s bitter Dame didn’t join Miami Heat
@@rodbat9075as far as I know both been recruiting each but no ome of them wants to join each others team.
Joy missing the point when Acho says homegrown. The core of the bucks big three meaning khris and giannis are homegrown. Khris may not have been drafted to the bucks but he only played his rookie season with Detroit. The majority of his career has been with the bucks therefore he is homegrown
She’s just salty the heat didn’t get Dame 😂
She's tweakin the nuggets are the definition of homegrown team
@@Aim4Greatness24golden state is another definition of homegrown
@@warrenjohn1307she salty asf lmfao she really said equal pressure like Giannis isn’t already a top 15 player of all time
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It's obviously dame. Giannis has pressure obviously but dame has more on him
We’re acting like Dame didn’t say the same things about Portland.
100%. The guy with zero rings and the advancing age is obviously under more pressure.
Naw
They all know it's Lillard but they have to disagree with each other to make a show.
Real answer is pat riley
I normally agree with Joy, but she just salty af right now. Emotional take.
Giannis DID NOT ASK FOR DAME...🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️ But nonetheless... I love it! Bucks are winning a championship 🏆
Because they added an undersized guard who's never been to a conference finals 😆
It’s known that Horst didn’t tell Giannis that jrue was apart of the deal.. to make sure there was no conflict. Giannis statement about jrue getting traded was beautiful. Calling out the media for assuming..
Dumb question. Dame obviously. Both are underdogs in the league. Love it. Hope people sleep on them.
With by far some of most help any superstar guard could ask for it’s Dame that has the most pressure
Jrue Holiday is the biggest loser. He wanted to retire a buck. I feel bad for him, he did so much for the community in Milwaukee and was always the Team mate of year. Love that we got Dame, but Jrue is a buck for life and Legend for us
yeah as a bucks fan part of my excitement is being dampened by losing jrue. love that guy and i wish we kept him instead of middleton
I think Jrue ends up in Miami or Boston
@dethincarnate1149 nah let's see what he does first if he goes to certain teams bucks are in trouble and or he could flip the west depending on certain teams
@@solacenmute4840well he in Boston now
@Ceas1hunit I don't think most people understand the impact a player like that has on a championship level team just go watch what he and KD did for team USA and weeks b4 that watch what he did to booker and Chris Paul in the finals dude an absolute .
they are talking like pressure is a bad thing. pressure fuels greatness
🤔It’s obviously Dame. It’s always the guy without the ring!
Usually joy isn’t half bad but this whole segment went over her head. L Take
Joy should’ve kept her mouth shut
She BIG mad about not getting Dame after it was "so obviously a done deal it wasn't worth discussing"..
As a bucks fan....oh boyy the pressure now is on us now to win that ring this year
Lillard, by far. Giannis already proved he can win.
Giannis pulled a Kobe move by saying “Get me help or else”
He had the help just got no post moves it wasn't jrue fault. If him and Dame don't work out he still might want out.
@@DeadPoolLilCuzin1567as a guy who loves himself some giannis your actually 100 percent right. And the bucks losing vs the heat last year was on him for his reckless play that got himself hurt. And his lack of sudden mental fortitude when the bucks were easily handling the heat when he came back mostly because of Giannis. But crumbled when the heat made there last ditch effort 4th quarter runs in game 4 and 5.
Theirs no way Acho is acting this oblivious about a 1 year hall of famer joining a team, when that was literally the case the year the bucks won because they acquired Jrue after Giannis voiced his concerns with the future of the bucks just like he has done recently.
What does Giannis have to prove ?? Already did everything there’s to be done let’s be real all the pressure is on Dame
The moment Joy speaks is the moment I tune out
Sane person
Home grown teams at least 2 of your star players either have to have been drafted by the team or got there either in their rookie season or second season , 1, Golden state 2, bucks 3, nuggets, 4 Memphis 5,Raptors 6, Celtics 7 ,Timberwolves 8,heat are the legit homegrown teams that come to mind they developed their star players.
Denver has more homegrown people then Bucks
Best Show on the network.. By FAR! Love this combo!
As soon as Milwaukee teamed Oscar Robinson with Kareem It was OVER!! That's what Dame gonna do!!
WOW! And they got Dame, for nothing gave away bench players and a player with one year left on his contract that was going to leave anyway
He definitely was going to resign
The bucks won the championship. The first year Jrue holiday showed up Jrue Holiday has been a bucks for three years.Year one championship year two bounced in the second round year three bounced in the first round.
Joy is hurt, it’s gonna take her a while to get over this trade
Dame clearly has more pressure. Giannis definitely has almost as much pressure.
I may concede that it's equal pressure only because Giannis is being mentioned with big names in NBA history.
As if now, Dame is not on the level of Giannis, which is why Giannis by default has immense pressure.
Dame's pressure comes from the fact that hes been complaining for the longest.
Joy saying portland would be the loser if Holliday ends up in Miami makes zero since 😂
Ocho a dam fool lmfao. He just tries so hard to be different
Definitely Dame
Love this show
People forget the bucks were injured all season and got the first seed. Thats how good they are. Adding dame, the most important thing is health. If they stay healthy they will not be beat. If they stay healthy its no longer about if they will win, but its gonna be about how many they’ll win. LETS GO BUCKS
Giannis has higher All-Time upside. Dame is top 75 and people want him to get a ring. But it’s not like a chip puts him into “All-Time” territory. Giannis has potential to be a Top 10 all-time player which means he needs at least 4 rings.
I’ll put Giannis top 10 if he rings 1 more ring and/or MVP/DPOY
2 rings
3 potential mvps or 2 potentiao DPOY is top 10 material over Steph Shaq or Hakeem
dame cause dame running from the grind
The fact Joy tried to say the Nuggets arent home grown... i love joy and her takes but cmon girl 80%of our Roster was drafted
World championship comes out again. It is NBA Championship ! LOL , glad for Dame, finally we will see him shine in Play off.
Giannis because he’s going for a top 10 all time spot. A title for Dame would just cement his all-time great status in the upper echelon of players. Giannis tryna win Ringsssss like Bean🐍
All time mid
Dame has the most pressure
lol dumb question. Giannis already won a chip so there's more pressure on dame than giannis
What? Giannis HAS a ring...What a stoopid question.........
Lol Acho's take on the Suns is horrendous
0:56 it was made pretty clear giannis wasn’t involved cos that would mean giving the green light on trading away Jrue, which would be difficult despite it clearly being the right trade. Also would’ve heart the locker room.
In the last couple years if the Bucks would have been at full health Giannis should have at least 3 rings....no one beating them in a 7 game series
hypothetical this hypothetical that, cope harder
I'm sorry I don't understand what that means
KD won the minute he hooked up with the Dubs. Wiggins became an All-Star starter and champion in his first full year with the Dubs. All you stars with no rings still looking, what're you waiting for?
Acho you way off . The suns will be there and they will be amongst the trans with the most wins . There will be tough to beat. KD went to the ECF loss game 7 without kyrie
The homegrown argument collapsed QUICK lol
19 - Kawhi came straight in and won.
20 - AD
21 - Jrue. Not a superstar but definitely a part of the nucleus.
22 - Wiggins and JP.
Now Wiggins had been there for 1 extra season and JP in the G league so I guess u could talk about JP knowing the system though he was a new addition to the first team.
A bit of a shaky argument non the less 😬
Joy loved that "fit" remark 😮
Joy is clueless
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Giannis does have a lot of pressure on him mainly because now he HAS TO PRODUCE a title because his organization did all they could for him so he has to return the favor! Dame will play a large part in this endeavor. Bucks also added cam Payne, solid backup Pg addition that we desperately needed
Heat are the clear losers by botching a clear path to Dame
Who wants to give up most of their players for a guard... really "one guard"
@@coreychillis9754 who wants to give up an elite guard? Unless you're trading with an idiot team like the browns or bears in the NFL, you have to give fairly equal return in one form or another when trading.
@@jml5100 browns is Decent i hate they lost Chubbs
Acho really like the show. You said that you wasn't a good player. Well you're pretty good as a Host, analyst ,TV personality all of it. U R a smart dude.enjoying it. Keep it 💯
Love me some James Jones man he was a beast with his hoodie out
very energic program
Doesn't Milwaukee have a new head coach?
Joy made Acho look stupid on the homegrown thing
Town Bizz now in Cream City whatever dat means!! Did dey make Cream Soda??
Im soo glad that Joker is different player then Giannis and Embid. he wouldnt ever do things like this. i praise that man
Why is Joy acting like she doesn’t know what Acho means by home grown…
Hurt woman
Y’all talking like Giannis don’t alraady have a championship talking about he better deliver lmao he already did he wanted that right to demand whatever tf he wants
The Boston Celtics did it first year when KG, da truth, and Ray Ray got to together. But it was a great fit for all three of them. Oh and don't let me act like Rondo wasn't a factor.
Giannis has more pressure because he’s the historically greater player. Nobody before the trade was thinking “Dame gotta get a championship before he retires.”
Umm all the talking heads have said Dame needs a ship for validity.
@@coreybreiland7586Exactly. That’s for every player… Wtf is this guy drinking 😂
@@coreybreiland7586 Nobody looks at Dame that way. Nobody says he's even a top 50 player of all time(I think he's top 40). I've never heard before this trade "Dame has to win a title" so you guys are lying to yourselves. When you're in that Lebron, Joker, Giannis level with multiple MVP's is when we hold you to a higher standard, especially with him being a small guard. Nobody looked at AI and said "He has to get a ring." Dame doesn't even have an MVP. If he doesn't win we'll remember him but our kids won't. If he wins and wins big (2 or more) our kids will. It's that simple.
@@sirisaacmormont5445 one of the biggest things is that AI never won a ring lol everyone has looked at Dame that way. He's been the #2 PG behind steph. Now what do you say? Does he have to win now?
@@coreybreiland7586 Well the reality is Giannis has to win more or his career is a failure. There's not a reason in the world, other than being held back by an organization, that one with the physical gifts of Giannis, should only get one ring in their career. Small guard aren't your prototypical #1 option for a championship. There's the greatest shooter of all time in Curry, and Isaiah Thomas as the only small guards to lead teams to rings. It just doesn't happen in a game of giants.
This is 3 football minds talking about basketball. I feel like that’s why their basketball takes are always all over the place. In no way shape or form is the pressure on Giannis he’s already won before. Dame hasn’t really been close to it so obviously the pressure is on him.
SANE
Im not predicting it but I would not be shocked if Giannis goes down with an injury. Leaving Dame alone to fold under pressure late in the season.
And Dame won't get one in Milwaukee either... Giannis gonna leave after this season🫣
If Middleton stays healthy bucks are scary
Joy is like a chameleon. After Saint Floyd died she changed her entire personality and the way she talks.
It's on both of them, they're both in the pressure cooker, It's on Giannis because he's won a chip and he's a 2x MVP, and a Dpoy, so it's on Giannis in that light, it's on Dame because he's a all time great guard who hasn't won the chip so it's both.
Dame being a top 75 over Dwight and klay is high way robbery. All the pressures on dame. You wanted a chance? You got that. Show us now
SANE PERSON!!
Dwight was THRICE Defensive Player of the Year!!!
THERE'S NO WAY that accomplishments =/= top 75!!
Dame doesn't even have a defensive TEAM selection
@@darrengordon-hill Bro idk man, I mean they got Kyrie on there but not Klay, or Dwight. That list is generational glazing and nothing more.
Suns Phoenix is gone be better team then last year if yusuf is healthy
Looking good girl 😘
ima say Giannis, any leader/best player on a team gets the most pressure. We already seen Giannis won without a top 10 player so now I think he has to deliver. But that’s life. and if he’s a true leader he knows that.
I’m sure I heard JJ say “ World Champions” minimum 2 times. He has to be trolling I’m guessing.
Joy is not an analyst!! She is a great mediator. That's what she needs to be doing on this show. They are giving her takes and then Acho continuously doubles down on her takes to create some sense of creditibility.. stop it... please
PLEASE
Try to create false narrative no one is under pressure Charles Barkley look like he under pressure ? Those ppl winning even without a championship just dont get into legal trouble
I think neither Giannis nor Dame under pressure. Rest of the Nba will be under pressure. And i dont think this Bucks team will need time to adjust. They will play great from the first game of the season until the last game of the finals that they will win
I agree that Milwaukee will be really good day one but I don’t think it’s an easy chip.. Keep in mind this kind of puts a target on Milwaukees back.. Especially if they meet Miami in the playoffs Miami gonna be out to prove somethin haha
@@thuggwaffle8825 I dont think Heat is gonna be anywhere near championship for a decade. They should go allin for Dame but they didnt. The only team that can be a trouble for Bucks is Celtics if they can land Jrue imo.
@@omerlaleliMiami did go all in, that wasn’t enough. They weren’t willing to lose Adebayo or obviously Jimmy so it became impossible.
@@nikeguy2 How exatcly Miami allin? Even when u look what Bucks gave up for Dame u can see that is not the case. Bucks basicly gave up on Jrue+Allen(who is just 8m salary player)+1 1st round pick+pick swaps. This is basically Jrue+ 1 1st round pick not even 2 1st round picks. Part of the trade where Portland got Ayton is between Suns and Portland. Miami had these assets to give up; Herro, Jovic, Jaquez and 2 future 1st round picks. I am not even putting the Martin out there. This package i wrote is much more than that Bucks gave obviously. Miami didnt wanna gave up Jovic and Jaquez. They offered Herro+ 2 1st round picks and some trash players which they dont want on team like Robinson or else. If they would offer Herro+Jovic+Jaquez+2 1st round this basically means Herro+4 1st round and Portland would gladly accept that.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say this
KD is done being a leader or the player to make a difference in big games, he’s declining due to age, wear and tear + injury
He’s can’t even play 55 + games at his level…this is another year of decline…
His time is done, he’s 35 years old, averaged 35 games per season the past 4 years and only played 137 games total…
Everyone isn’t Lebron, he’s not even going to be a Top 10 player in the league THIS season..
I agree. Lebron has also been done since 2020. He can statpad all he wants during the regular season but he's never going back to finals forget winning it.
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What are these people talking about bro. It’s Dame!!!! His whole career he has been excused for not winning because he didn’t have a “good” team around him. He LITERALLY has that now so if he doesn’t win, WHATS HIS EXCUSE?!!!
Middleton has played 684 only 27 of those aren’t in a bucks jersey . That’s a wild statement to day hrs not home grown
I can see the argument though. If we are speaking homegrown by NBA standards, it usually means you were drafted and developed by said team. If we are speaking in literal sense, I agree that he is homegrown.
Jimmy Butler born in Miami, went to The U, drafted by Miami, never played elsewhere 😂😂😂
Dame and it ain't close. Giannis got a ring and everything else.
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If Giannis is Giannis in the playoffs and they lose you can't blame him when it's a team game. Even thou he got hurt in the Playoffs he came back and had good numbers and they still lost to the Heat in 5 games, some of the games were high-scoring.
If from this point on, Dame and Giannis don’t win a championship. Giannis is still a top 15-20 player all time. With a championship, 2mvps and dpoy. Dame is a top 75 player all time, with all star appearances, with no championship. Someone who had his chances with another superstar to win rings with, but didn’t. Now, who exactly needs this ring more. The guy who doesn’t have one or the guy who does. How is this hard
Mia lost when they didn't bring the two dogs back and either trade or buy out Lowry.
Sixers don't have depth
Plus harden trouble
Bos is definitely in it and they have 3 scores and depth deeper than bucks
Big situation could be
Siakam. Who can get him.
Can an east team get him in a big three?
The whole team...everyone got something prove...that's how u got to play imo.
What a power move tho by the Bucks.
It's Giannis who has the most pressure since he's the 2 time MVP and best player on the team. Dame is just gonna start being judged a little bit more harsh now that he's on a contender.
Equal pressure, Dame for obvious reasons, but Gianni asked for a good position to win and they got him the next best thing to steph curry...he better deliver a chip.
Don't ignore the clips and memphis
The Sonics was the first team to prove just because you have the 1st seed doesn't quarantine a trip to the finals.
*guarantee
Lol
The way yoo analayze players qouts like philosophers
Acho changed his mind four times about his interpretation of “home grown”🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
It's true that Miami fans are overly delusional after last year's run - but for the Bucks to be "embarrassed" by losing to a "play-in" team then MIA should be ousted in the second round. However, the bucks lost to the conference champion because MIA won NY and BOS if I remember correctly. So, that argument doesn't stand.
They dont even mention the Raptors chip. What disrespect
ain't no way nobody is gonna ever talk about kyrie and luka due with a possible good defense this year they must be hungry
N Dame said he ain't wanna come back n play n da Bay no matter what. Dats a trip so he besta win n Cheesehead country
It’s dame , there’s no better running mate for dame right now than two champions Gianni’s / Middleton.
And Lopez, shot blocking machine last season and stretched out his offense
Why is this even the topic?
They're on the same team.
They share the same amount of cheers and boos.
They share the same amount of pressure to win.
They need each other now to win the finals.
There isn't a loser in this 3 team trade.
All 3 teams got what they wanted and needed.
Bucks: Dame brings the outside scoring and clutch shooting
Phoenix: they got the depth to contend
Portland: they got younger to build for the future
They don't share the same amount of pressure, cause Dame isn't viewed as the same calibur of player as Giannis.
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They have the same amount of pressure because they now need each other to be great to win a championship.
If Lillard went to Miami I would agree with you but he didn't. He's with Giannis in Milwaukee.
@@ZTK06 Every best player on a championship team needs their co star. But it’s the best player on that team who is gonna receive the most pressure cause they’re the ones held to a higher standard.
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That's not always the case.
I can name situations where the 2nd guy had more pressure.
AD in LA with LBJ
Anywhere KD has played
PG with Kawhi in LA
Ben Simmons with Embiid in Philly
Westbrook with Harden in Houston
This Bucks duo is different.
The only way this works is if they balance each other out. Plus Lillard will be taking the majority of the clutch shots or free throws.
So it's on both of them to be great no matter who the best player is.
@@ZTK06 Lebron and Kawhi were the ones with the most pressure. When they lost in those series in the playoffs it was them who were respectfully taking most of the scrutiny. And even with non championship teams the expectations were more on Embiid and Harden to show up
Well I’m looking forward to seeing what Giannis and Dame do but I don’t think they the best in the east. Celtics are looking scary they got more star talent in every position
They keep saying they lost to "a play in team" like it just happened to them Like every other team in the east didn't lose to that same play in team
They didnt only 3 teams did