I did this before 1 side winder card on each weapom and it gives me 6x attack. Best card imo since it gives you an extra 100% attack rather than other dmg multiplier cards.
so what is better 4 sidewinder cards or 2 sidewinder and 2 10% more crit damage?, cause yeah a full dagger crit build with 4 sidewinder at 400% ASPD would be insane damage
good video to show that sidewinder truly stack to give a "triple attack". but i think alot of people want to know if the "double attack" of sidewinder can proc card skills like stem worm too. we cant even test this since to know for sure. Number 1. if the main attack proc red cut, does the sidewinder double attack also proc another red cut ? Number 2. The main attack has a 3%chance to proc red cut, does the sidewinder double attack gives another 3% chance to proc red cut ?
In my understanding the sidewinder passive doesnt count as "normal attack" it is a passive that gives an extra damage. Consider the card as another auto skill and not an extra normal attack. In conclusion, other auto skill card will not proc on sidewinder passive.
@@dobangtv4097 from ur understanding, this sw double attack is a "skill" thus wont proc passive card skills. i get this. but i just watched another video testing sw on sniper. ruclips.net/video/wJ3Zkc3H1Fg/видео.html he said in comment; "sidewinder, can trigger double damage on all of your attacks, including your falcon dmg" this made me very confused lol. can u watch the video and let me know what u think. since the proc is only 3%, i can't even determine if it's proc from main attack or the sw effect.
@@dobangtv4097 another factor why im questioning this is due to the capability of the sw attack to proc critical. only normal attacks (unless in exceptional case, like pally concentrate pierce or RK hundred spears) could proc crit. that is why sw is still a "normal attack", and therefore can trigger passive card effects.
@@of8ightandse7en16I have this same question, I just watched that video you linked before coming here, I would like to know if that hit (from the sw) can also activate the Double Attack skill when using dagger. Please I need that test Another thing, do u have the snakehead hat? Can u test him too please? Thanks
@@RodrygoSantana cant answer u. need to test to know for sure. im pretty certain now sw can proc passive card skills since alot people from discord now said the same, but for thief DA, i doubt so. "Sw cant proc passive skills because it's a skill" is an outdated logic from classic RO forums. but in global they seemed to have changed it.
They thought it's not working coz the damage text of the sinx's skill is diff from the sidewinder card. And you wouldnt really notice it if you stacked up agi that's why i tested it out on 1 agi only.
Nice Video Oh and I suggest you target other dummy in auto but attack other dummy(not targeted). Make sure the targeted dummy is not within your range. This way you'll only attack them once without moving back.
correct me if im wrong however, from what I saw from 1:20 the color of normal attack is yellow (163 white normal) and (163 yellow color) followed by 2x attack (326 yellow color). Its not triple attack and it only changes the color of your normal attack before the 2x attack damage.
I dont think i understood your comment. The yellow text is the total damage of your double attack skill. So i wonder where you got the (163 yellow text)
It has 4 possibilities with DA skill and side winder card. 1: both DA and Swinder will not proc = 1 damage 2: DA will proc without sw = 2 damage (yellow text) 3: SW will work without DA = 2 damage (2 white text) 4: DA and SW will proc = 3 damage (yellow text is the total of DA skill + additional white text from SW) I hope this helps
@@dobangtv4097 in other words, it is not literally double attack. but "single attack with 2x damage". meaning, it will not 2 times proc passive skills like red cut/bash. also, this "double attack" damage can't be critical, this make sidewinder card overrated. assuming one is playing critical build, the critical hits already had multiplier damage, plus it pierce pdef (which is insane in ROO where the monsters had high PDEF); so whenever the double attack proc, the critical wont proc. In other words it's useless unless ur not playing crit build. the graphic and animation of makes it cool but dps wise, it's not great.
The vid is a proof that double attack skill and sidewinder card have diff proc chance. Meaning, they dont stack. Here's how i see it, Single attack has 3 possible damage, It is either: -DA skill 55% chance -And if that chance missed, Side winder 10% "may" take effect. -lastly, no double attack
Imagine this on dagger crit build, x4 damage and crit, that really hurts Btw, this also works on Snipers long range auto ataks and it also affects crits
@@arifmuhammad434 no, it doesnt work on skills. Just normal attacks. In the late game run, upon experiencing much earlier servers, normal attack/crit is the meta with status ailment cards.
May fault is i didnt try it on 2 dagger, so i wont be able to answer that without proof. But keep in mind that the probability of double attack on both hand is diff. (Right arm double attack may proc while the other weapon wont)
It will work fine if you install it too on left hand dagger. If your question if the card will work on left hand even tho it's installed at the right dagger, well, i dont really know. I forgot to test it out, but if we check the katar one, it only worked on the main damage. So my theory is, it will work just fine if both dagger have side winder.
@@AkihiroAki i cant answer that since i only got a hand on 1 pc card. But logically, it will stack if we compare it to 4pcs stem worm card. Personally i wouldnt use 2 sidewinder
Clearly not a triple attack. It's a visual glitch. Your Double attack damage is "326" (the yellow one) whilst the normal damage "163" (the white one). 326 is double your nomal damage and obviously not triple. Simple math
@@jay00721 The card says it only deals "double attack" not triple. And it's been debunked in Ragnarok Mobile forums and by other streamers that Sidewinder card won't deal triple attack or stack with level 10 double attack skill. I don't know where the uploader got his wrong info
@@philsenyu based on his tests it does. Sidewinder does 1 normal attack when it procs. So double attack plus 1 normal attack is triple. It has been tested on sacrifice paladin too, when it procs it only does 1 normal attack damage, not sacrifice damage. Sidewinder card in ROO is not the thief double attack skill. It does 1 extra normal attack
@@philsenyu i never said the card says it will proc tripple attack. What i mentioned and tested in which you can clearly see in the video is that side winder also works when you have double attack skill on thief class (total of 3 damage) try to rewatch the video again. Im not claiming that the card does"tripple attack". It gives total 3 attacks when double attack skill (thief class) and side winder proc at the same time. It's already in the vid
I did this before 1 side winder card on each weapom and it gives me 6x attack.
Best card imo since it gives you an extra 100% attack rather than other dmg multiplier cards.
so what is better 4 sidewinder cards or 2 sidewinder and 2 10% more crit damage?, cause yeah a full dagger crit build with 4 sidewinder at 400% ASPD would be insane damage
Nice guide. Can you also try whether critical stacks with double atk skill on dual dagger build?
good video to show that sidewinder truly stack to give a "triple attack".
but i think alot of people want to know if the "double attack" of sidewinder can proc card skills like stem worm too.
we cant even test this since to know for sure.
Number 1. if the main attack proc red cut, does the sidewinder double attack also proc another red cut ?
Number 2. The main attack has a 3%chance to proc red cut, does the sidewinder double attack gives another 3% chance to proc red cut ?
In my understanding the sidewinder passive doesnt count as "normal attack" it is a passive that gives an extra damage. Consider the card as another auto skill and not an extra normal attack. In conclusion, other auto skill card will not proc on sidewinder passive.
@@dobangtv4097 from ur understanding, this sw double attack is a "skill" thus wont proc passive card skills. i get this.
but i just watched another video testing sw on sniper.
ruclips.net/video/wJ3Zkc3H1Fg/видео.html
he said in comment;
"sidewinder, can trigger double damage on all of your attacks, including your falcon dmg"
this made me very confused lol. can u watch the video and let me know what u think. since the proc is only 3%, i can't even determine if it's proc from main attack or the sw effect.
@@dobangtv4097 another factor why im questioning this is due to the capability of the sw attack to proc critical.
only normal attacks (unless in exceptional case, like pally concentrate pierce or RK hundred spears) could proc crit.
that is why sw is still a "normal attack", and therefore can trigger passive card effects.
@@of8ightandse7en16I have this same question, I just watched that video you linked before coming here, I would like to know if that hit (from the sw) can also activate the Double Attack skill when using dagger. Please I need that test
Another thing, do u have the snakehead hat? Can u test him too please? Thanks
@@RodrygoSantana cant answer u. need to test to know for sure.
im pretty certain now sw can proc passive card skills since alot people from discord now said the same, but for thief DA, i doubt so.
"Sw cant proc passive skills because it's a skill" is an outdated logic from classic RO forums. but in global they seemed to have changed it.
Can the double attack from Sidewinder card proc Auto blitz on sniper?
Too bad i sell my own sidewinder card damn. I'm a sinx dagger type and i thought it will not work since i have double attack
Awwwwww. I ignored this one i thought it only works with double atk
They thought it's not working coz the damage text of the sinx's skill is diff from the sidewinder card. And you wouldnt really notice it if you stacked up agi that's why i tested it out on 1 agi only.
can you make video sinx katar sidewinder but no crit.. focus on agi
i want to see
Nice Video
Oh and I suggest you target other dummy in auto but attack other dummy(not targeted). Make sure the targeted dummy is not within your range.
This way you'll only attack them once without moving back.
Thank you. Very helpful in my next test/experiment
correct me if im wrong however, from what I saw from 1:20 the color of normal attack is yellow (163 white normal) and (163 yellow color) followed by 2x attack (326 yellow color). Its not triple attack and it only changes the color of your normal attack before the 2x attack damage.
I dont think i understood your comment. The yellow text is the total damage of your double attack skill. So i wonder where you got the (163 yellow text)
And for a much simpler explanation. Your 1 attack will have a chance of 3 total damage. Try to Go back to how side winder works.
It has 4 possibilities with DA skill and side winder card.
1: both DA and Swinder will not proc = 1 damage
2: DA will proc without sw = 2 damage (yellow text)
3: SW will work without DA = 2 damage (2 white text)
4: DA and SW will proc = 3 damage (yellow text is the total of DA skill + additional white text from SW)
I hope this helps
@@dobangtv4097 the 2 damage (yellow text) as shown from the video (1st yellow damage is 163. 2nd yellow damage is 326)
@@dobangtv4097 in other words, it is not literally double attack. but "single attack with 2x damage".
meaning, it will not 2 times proc passive skills like red cut/bash.
also, this "double attack" damage can't be critical, this make sidewinder card overrated.
assuming one is playing critical build, the critical hits already had multiplier damage, plus it pierce pdef (which is insane in ROO where the monsters had high PDEF); so whenever the double attack proc, the critical wont proc.
In other words it's useless unless ur not playing crit build. the graphic and animation of makes it cool but dps wise, it's not great.
What if sniper use this card? Insights?
how about 4 sidewinder card with double dagger sinx, do you think it will proc frequently?
The vid is a proof that double attack skill and sidewinder card have diff proc chance. Meaning, they dont stack.
Here's how i see it,
Single attack has 3 possible damage,
It is either:
-DA skill 55% chance
-And if that chance missed, Side winder 10% "may" take effect.
-lastly, no double attack
Does sidewinder card work on blitz beat?
Imagine this on dagger crit build, x4 damage and crit, that really hurts
Btw, this also works on Snipers long range auto ataks and it also affects crits
It works on every classes as long is it deals normal attacks. But i heard that wiz's magic crusher works on sidewinder too. Will test that out soon
@@dobangtv4097 bro the double damage, does it proc it work redcut with worm tail card?
@@arifmuhammad434 no. But there is a designated core to proc 2 redcut. In Korea server 3x redcut is possible in 1 cast/auto.
@@dobangtv4097 so the sidewinder procs, only pure 1 hit, not procing another chance such as DS and redcut? im in global server
@@arifmuhammad434 no, it doesnt work on skills. Just normal attacks. In the late game run, upon experiencing much earlier servers, normal attack/crit is the meta with status ailment cards.
Woks for Spears or Swords ?
Does having double sidewinder better or it just only one
Should I get sidewinder with my champ?
It depends on your build. I guess it's good in every agi based build
sidewinder or skeleton worker (and other dmg cards) is better?
Sidewinder is a cheap alternative. In late game, players tend to get status ailment cards in pvp like sleep or stun if you are aspd based job.
Would you sacrifice a cardslot for a tripple attack?
It depends. Its cheaper than any good card for sinx. Alternative while on budget, but in late run i suggest you still change it.
So 2pcs of sidewinder card will work with an agi crit knight ? proc chance will stack?
this like bongun card debate.. 1 thing for sure it wont stack like 10+10%=20%.
at most, it's diminishing proc. like 19%.
Does this mean if it is applied in a dual dagger crit build there is a probability that in one swing one can do 6 crit atks?
May fault is i didnt try it on 2 dagger, so i wont be able to answer that without proof. But keep in mind that the probability of double attack on both hand is diff. (Right arm double attack may proc while the other weapon wont)
Does both hands ang double attack master skills work on katar?
It doesnt affect katar weapon, only the double attack from thief class
@@dobangtv4097 ohhh so both is not needed in katar, tysm for this info
wow very helpful guide
Bro thx for this.. so if youre a crit type then your double attack will crit too? If my crit is 5k, my double atk would be 5k too?
According to the test, yes it will also crit.
Does it work with dual dagger sinx
It will work fine if you install it too on left hand dagger. If your question if the card will work on left hand even tho it's installed at the right dagger, well, i dont really know. I forgot to test it out, but if we check the katar one, it only worked on the main damage. So my theory is, it will work just fine if both dagger have side winder.
@@dobangtv4097 do u test it yet in double dagger? i want to know it
@@williamwilliam4702 +1
Up pls
Does it work on bow?
Yup. I guess it's working on any physical damage. Im gonna try it with magic crasher too
Thx dude, auto subs
Only work for Sinx?
Works in every job
@@dobangtv4097 Does it stack if i use 2 card?
@@AkihiroAki i cant answer that since i only got a hand on 1 pc card. But logically, it will stack if we compare it to 4pcs stem worm card. Personally i wouldnt use 2 sidewinder
Clearly not a triple attack. It's a visual glitch. Your Double attack damage is "326" (the yellow one) whilst the normal damage "163" (the white one). 326 is double your nomal damage and obviously not triple. Simple math
Have you played the game yet? You just computed 3 attacks in total
Computed 3 attacks, also says not triple. Wtf?
@@jay00721 The card says it only deals "double attack" not triple. And it's been debunked in Ragnarok Mobile forums and by other streamers that Sidewinder card won't deal triple attack or stack with level 10 double attack skill. I don't know where the uploader got his wrong info
@@philsenyu based on his tests it does. Sidewinder does 1 normal attack when it procs. So double attack plus 1 normal attack is triple. It has been tested on sacrifice paladin too, when it procs it only does 1 normal attack damage, not sacrifice damage. Sidewinder card in ROO is not the thief double attack skill. It does 1 extra normal attack
@@philsenyu i never said the card says it will proc tripple attack. What i mentioned and tested in which you can clearly see in the video is that side winder also works when you have double attack skill on thief class (total of 3 damage) try to rewatch the video again. Im not claiming that the card does"tripple attack". It gives total 3 attacks when double attack skill (thief class) and side winder proc at the same time. It's already in the vid
thank you man