Thanks for helping to highlight this important issue Louis. We're about to try and drag the mainstream media into this so any extra profile that RUclipsrs like yourself can create is brilliant. The drone/RC community thanks you!
Somehow I KNEW I wouldnt need to send you the link for this Sir Bruce! ;) Thanks for all you do, & thanks Louis for making this issue known to a much larger audience.
Here in Italy there is a similar system that just says where the drones are only to the police because there are some areas where you can't fly drones and so they get your location and arrest you/do their business
@@rossmanngroup Louis please see my comment further below as a response to this video. I apologize that my comment is long but it provides an important perspective that I don't see represented in any other comments here. Please understand I'm a huge fan with massive appreciation for everything you do. I respectfully disagree with your position on this one topic. Sincere.
This is nearly 5 agencies in the past 2 months that have proposed significantly privacy violating measures in the name of safety... -Kids online protection act -Adobe proposing mandated metadata on all media files -ESRB offering facial recognition as a verification method to buy rated M games (which is not a requirement, but all it would take is a politician with 5 angry karens [all non-mothers] demanding it to be a law) - the UK demanding a backdoor on all encryption (which would ensure the security for blackhat hackers for years to come) And now this crud. I DON'T WANT PEOPLE SNIFFING MY REAR END JUST TO ACCESS A WEBSITE OR JUST EXIST!!!
"but all it would take is a politician with 5 angry karens [all non-mothers] demanding it to be a law)" No, no no. The 5 angry Karens will absolutely be mothers. There are few groups of people more irrational, rabid and unhinged than mothers who demand to outsource their responsibilities to the state and broader society so they don't have to look out for their kids' safety themselves.
If you ever stripped the paint off a piece of furniture or something in the last couple of years and wondered why the paint stripper seemed useless its because the government forced the removal of methylene chloride from paint strippers. This was the chemical that made them work so well. The removal of it was due to all the idiots that killed themselves by using the stuff in a closed room and suffocating on the fumes. So how many thousands died? around 60 in the last 40 years. Not 60 thousand, sixty.
I read my email. Slowly, but if you didn't send me a book, I read my email. If you send me a book and are not clear with what you want, all bets are off. I can't stand the vague shit asking for a meeting later. But I read through the emails that are normal and not annoying. Thanks for informing me!
remote ID for drones is a test drive before it is made mandatory for cars. - it is advertised as "digital licence plate" - it is "necessary" for the autonomus delivery drones. "don't you want fast delivery?" - "drone pilots need to be held responsible for their actions" - "it's very inexpensive and simple to retrofit the remote ID module"
Everybody comparing this to a license plate on a vehicle seems to be missing the point that your vehicle is not constantly broadcasting your location with your identity and logging it
There will be no delivery drones outside edge cases, like places where there are no roads, or the roads are terrible and a van full of stuff is not practicle.
I spoke with a guy with actual FAA ID years before all this started. He laid out the whole plan and I thought he was full of crap. This was well over 15 years ago. His timeline was faster than what actually happened, but he said it will be adjusted based on push back. The end goal is no hobby air RC larger than 500 grams. According to him the next goal after RID was to start restricting weight on the high end. The plan was to have additional requirements for heavy craft, and then to gradually lower the weight until no one was flying anything over 500g. He said the reason was Amazon told them that their drones could withstand a 500 gram drone hitting their drones. I don't know if any of this is real, but the guy was spot on for the last 15 years. If he was crazy then he was really good at guessing.
Yeah. Im fairly certain, based on all the stuff Ive found, this is 100% being asked for by corporations wanting the airspace for drone delivery. Like its known thats a reason, but I think its the only reason and everything else is just fluff. Several years ago the FAA asked Google, Amazon, T-Mobile, UPS and a few other companies with nothing to do with aviation or the rc hobby to help design the remoteID module. Weird that not one single aviation company was brought on.
You can tell they’ve gotten bolder these past few years with all this dystopian stuff coming out. If we aren’t willing to defend these guys who knows how far it’ll go. They can just say oh this is for security therefore we can ignore your human rights. What a joke
It did. They weren't allowed into the district of criminals. The criminals wanted to criminalize the act and declare it a war if the truckers went in there.. similar to what crime minister turdbrain did to the truckers in Ottawa. @@TheMysteryDriver Did you the miss the convoy across the United States?? Because I got out there and rode along with them on the highway when they passed through my nearby area.
If you just brand everyone a criminal and lock them up, then they cannot do any criminal activity anymore. Truly a genius move from the great government.
Thank you for covering this Louis. As an Australian drone pilot I'm sure that my stupid, no imagination government will follow the US lead - and we don't even have any equivalent to your 4th amendment protection.
Time to start reading and putting forward tour concerns... www.infrastructure.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/remote-id-discussion-paper_public-consultation.pdf Closes tomorrow, BTW.
Hey, not everyone who needs to be aware of the location of the drone will have the proper technology to receive the signal. Drones need a 90+db speaker constantly broadcasting the voice of a screaming baby!
The Australian citizen does not even have any rights enshrined in the Australian constitution. I fully agree with your take on "I'm sure that my stupid, no imagination government will follow the US lead", in fact I think they are already moving in that direction.
As a fpv drone builder and flyer, I really appreciate this. Thank you so much for bringing this to a more mainstream audience. Also, remember this applies to rc helicopter and airplane enthusiasts as well.
@@Zeaiclies I am basically saying that up until now the news only got darker. And altho I hope you are right, the fact is its only being implemented more and more. By saying "so what" it looks like you are just in denial, while I was hoping you had some good news.
@@svenvanwier7196 I know that in the USA, it will not last long, because the FAA has no idea how to handle all the logistics of such an endeavor. As far as the EU, my "so what" was because it is not relevant to me and also one can just fly Illegally in either country and they really can not do anything about it. Not in denial, as it is a thing but a thing that can be ignored and even if one complies with said thing, it will quickly cease to be a thing eventually or everyone will simply ignore it, because they can not enforce it.
It's always about "safety," isn't it? And the general public will eat it up, as per usual. Yeah, it's a violation of the 4th, but good f*cking luck getting our useless SCOTUS to hear a challenge on this.
driver licenses are a violation of 4th too, but they had an 'overriding public interest'. You didnt need a horse and carriage license to use public roads.
@@neglectfulsausage7689 Speaking of driving, I wonder what the legal obligation to purchase car insurance violates? Because that's the government requiring you to purchase a product, and from private companies no less. I'm sure the auto insurance companies absolutely _loved_ it when that law was put into place. In fact, I bet they're the ones who lobbied for it.
@@wurgel1 cancer kills more then guns annually - so we obviously need this tech included on anything that can potentially cause cancer, so this should be included in all the pollution which releases into the atmosphere, right? Impossible? Nah, nano machines would be able to handle this, obviously, so let's start with the bigger killers first....
Imagine you go to the store to buy a pressure cooker and it has this id feature. Your neighbors/anyone can see when you're using it and where you are. Of course this was put in place to keep bad actors from using the pressure cooker as an improvised bomb.... because that could, emphasis on could, happen. For drone hobbyists, this is what this would be similar to.
as a DIY smart home user, we already able to sniff neighbors BLE beacons like your smart toothbrushes, smart scale, smart thermometers without any login/key. the worse I can flash your thermometer with custom firmware and make your thermometer screen looks funny.
@@cameron7374 nope, no need pwd at all, your house data just broadcast by BLE. try search "CUSTOM FIRMWARE Xiaomi LYWSD03MMC", the IoT (internet of thing) world is a wide open door. also DJI has aeroscope out there for so long, they know every DJI drone take off.
Thanks for talking about this Louis! From my perspective inside the FPV community, we are just ants getting stepped on by the FAA and congress. Every voice talking about this issue helps to shed some light on us!
@@marcogenovesi8570 The opposite applies as well. If you are ignorant you can "attack" every idea you don't understand implications of. Some say that background checks are violation of privacy when buying a gun..
they already do this with our phones..... they can remotely tap into our mic and cameras on our phones. the apps we use have that coded in as national security.
@@AlpineHiker I encourage you to look into the types of state-sponsored smartphone attacks that happen against journalists reporting on corruption in the UAE. It makes warrantless wiretapping in the US look like child’s play.
Thanks for helping to bring this to light, Louis. The fact that our control station is transmitted is very invasive and dangerous. The drone community thanks you!
Most people probably don't even know that "1984" was a novel about the government being able to observe you 24 x 7 anywhere and everywhere even inside your own home. I'm also reminded of the future San Francisco in the movie "Demolition Man" where swearing anywhere would automatically generate a citation against you for using profanity! Still not sure what the 3 sea shells were for though... the citations were good for wiping ones ass though. 😕
The NSA has fields of servers, recording and surveillance, and everything we do. Snowden proved it and is branded a treasonous traitor for telling the public. The government wants to control you without you resisting.
If we're applying this to *other* things that can hurt you, we need to push it to the logical extremes. Vacuum cleaners: Don't touch the business end while it's running. Charging cables: If the coating is damaged, you have a spot that burns to the touch (and a potential fire hazard). Doors: They'll hurt if you open them towards yourself too hard without stepping out of the way. Also, when the door is open, don't stick your fingers in the crevice at the hinge side. By the way, I'm talking about unpowered doors. Not automatic ones; just standard "turn the knob and pull/push" doors that we've had since before electricity was discovered. Hard floors: Don't trip! Legos: Don't leave them on the floor if you're walking without shoes. Hard floors covered in Legos: A facefull of *ouch.*
Unfortunately the FAA is ran by politicians who can't make the distinction between a remote controlled helicopter, quadrotor, aircraft, and a real drone: the MQ-9 Reaper; and it's also ran by career pilots, who do not want to see their hegemony threatened. They use the term "drone" as a catch-all and as a way to cast them in an unappealing light by making them seem like something that only the Air Force should have and that anyone else that has them are potential terrorists.
Great Job Louis! Thank you so much for using your platform and popularity to bring this to attention! Remote ID is going to be a HUGE problem for everyone in our hobby and anyone who flys in a plane! Please say NO to Remote ID!
Government: We can record anyone anywhere, all people must be surveyed. Also Governemnt: uhhhhmhmhmh idk maaaann that epstein guy just doesn't show up on cameras.
The world is far better now than it was 100, 200, 500 yrs ago. 1700 yrs ago, you did what your dad did. Oh, you want to be an artist instead of a blacksmith? Off with your head. Oh, you don't want to go fight in the king's war? Off with your head. Oh, you don't want to marry who you're arranged to marry? You're expunged from the community. 300-500 yrs ago, the plague, smallpox... that killed something like 1/3 of the people it infected, and it was horrible. 100 yrs ago, probably would've died at age 35 or something. There was no air conditioning, music was mostly for rich people who could afford to pay the orchestra to see them live(stuff like lansing 604e didn't come out until late 1930s for non-shit hifi audio)... going to a bar was illegal. We live in 2023... life is awesome man. We are where we are because we constantly course corrected the things that went awry. because we cleaned up our own corner of the world as much as possible.. and fixed as much stuff that was broken as we could. Whether with a soldering iron or words. and as long as we keep doing that, it'll get better. There'll be roadbumps along the way. There have ALWAYS been roadbumps along the way! There's no better time than the present, and if we put work in, there will be no better time than the future. Life is awesome for me. I hope it is for you!! If it isn't, I hope it eventually is.
There should be a legislation pushed that all legislators and high government officials should broadcast their location, amount of people close to them and personal identifiable information in a way anyone can obtain, so that everyone can make sure to be able and go to help them. It would be for their """""SAFETY""""". It could be called, the government official security initiative!
"government official security initiative!" No no no. you are missing the most important step. Change it to: Government Official Security and Safety Information Protocol. Or in short, the GOSSIP-Act. Gotta sell it, if you want it passed.
Wow this is awesome Louis! Thank you so much for touching on a pain point for so many of us. Remote ID is an unbelievable “Big Brother” move. Shocking.
Drones do in fact cause more injuries in the US than vending machines. Vending machines resulted in 150 injuries and fatalities between 1975 and 1995, meanwhile drones resulted in ~4,250 injuries between 2015 and 2020.
But Louis, Louis. All these people watching Ukraine videos realize they can drop boom-booms from their drones. If we don't put this into law now, and say it is for *your* safety, then when we enact the Police State and start rounding up 'dissidents' these drones could rain down ouch on our Faithful Loyal Altruistic Glorious (FLAG) of the Police State. Remember Louis, "Our Safety is your safety!" (sickening jingle music)
And Ukraine *ALREADY* has to modify drones exactly so that they won't broadcast their remote ID, which russians could pick up and use for artillery barrages.
As if literal planes and boats didn't routinely turn off or even spoof their transponders whenever it was advantageous since the literal invention of transponders
Well it's not false, US is doing their best to train future Ukrainian terrorists in DIY drone combat. Imagine how much love they will have for their "allies" when those stop paying and the war is actually lost.
Spot on! On appeal, the RDQ case failed because their argument was premature, as RDQ cannot, at this time, prove that the rule has caused them any damage. Until a citizen has been damaged by the Remote ID rule, there is no issue in controversy, so there cannot be a cause of action. Why? Because, the rule is not in effect yet, and therefore, cannot hurt anyone. Things will get interesting after September 16, 2023. Once a citizen is damaged by the rule, constitutionally, it’s game on!
Normies still don't realize how invasive and ubiquitous data collection, analysis, tracking, and surveillance are - and those that do say "I don't really care, I have nothing to hide.' The app I am working on sales pitch I give to people, I tell them 'I and my company's auperapp will never analyze, track or sell your data' and they look at me with a deer in the headlight look. Big Tech and Big Business over the past 25 years of the internet really have conditioned people to be apathetic to their data privacy and rights and have actually been opaque (and deceptive) about their policies. I recently came across your channel and I am happy you are one of the few vocal techies advocating for the end user instead of being like the majority who just want to screw them over and make money off them. We need more Louis Rossmanns to fight the good fight!
BIG Support from the drone utility inspection world as well! Skydio and Verizon (Skyward) lobbied hard for these regulations - the original legislation for this had language that included all drones broadcast this information online. If I was a betting man, I would say this will be a requirement in a few years.
Thank you so much Louis for bringing attention to this. I recently started my drone business and while I partially understand how broadcasting could lead to increased safety, broadcasting to the general public puts pilots in tremendous danger
@@libtrs838 there have been plenty of incidents, where drones were flown across busy airport runways. Or where people used them to spy on their hot neighbours. Because of people like those, technology like this is needed. Your freedom ends at the point where other people are negatively affected.
They came for the drone pilots, and I said nothing because I didn’t own a drone, then they came for the VRusers and I said nothing because I didn’t use VR. Then they came for the cellphone users and I said nothing…
Ignorant take. Phones already have "remote id", it's called IMEI. Different id gets broadcasted but agencies can track any device once they contact network operator. In fact every GSM, WCDMA.. modem has one, globally unique, yes. Scary .. where is my libertyyyyty😂
@@L337f33t they actually don't, they use the same OS as we do, they have register in the same databases as we do, and they have no plausible reason to be exempt without creating a precedent that this shit shouldn't exist.
On the topic of surveillance and privacy. You also can’t forget about the various laws that are trying to be passed, Kosa, the restrict act, earn it, even the U.K. has been trying to pass their online safety bill. In theory, these are suppose to protect people online, but feels more like trying to track people, know what they are doing and survey them for what every they want.
Thank you for covering this Luis Rossman and you did a superb job covering this issue. All aspects of why this regulatory overreach is such a problem for drone pilots everywhere. (not just the USA) 👍🇬🇧
Here in the Netherlands drone flying is regulated so much it's basically impossible to do so. You'll need a license, you'll need to be in visible range of the drone, maximum allowed height, maximum allowed weight, not within 5 KM of ANY airport or "no-fly" zone (remember, the Netherlands is a small country with multiple airports), you'll need an insurance, etc. Governments really hate drones.
I agree with remaining within visual flying distance of your RC aircraft no matter what kind of "aircraft" it may be. What I do not ever want to see is some unknown drone hovering in my backyard with no pilot to be found anywhere! There'in lies the problem with allowing people to operate quad-copter drones out of the pilot's visual line of sight, someone will always misuse and abuse that capability.
That is still much more fair and consistent than what the US’ RemoteID achieves: RC aircrafts can be a safety and privacy hazard, but showing your position and personal info to everyone as a pilot is even worse on both fronts. The US (and Canada recently) are very good at offering a solution that doesn’t address the root cause of an issue, or should I say, does address what lobbyists make the root cause look to be.
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In Slovakia, we have similar laws, except you don't need a license. And you know what, the rules make perfect sense and strike a good balance between safety of general and commercial aviation and freedom of small drone operators. A larger drone can take out an airplane, it's no joke.
Thank so much for bringing this up, I fly FPV and use a dji drone in my business. My Air 2 is not RID compatible, so I’m already going to need to invest in a newer drone to be compliant. Also, often when I’m flying not only do I have my drone equipment with me, but about 7-10k of gear as well in my car. Knowing anyone in the area can now see my location with my livelihood in tow…almost makes it too risky to fly.
I'm so happy to see you talking about this, Louis! Our community isn't exactly massive or influential enough on our own. Thank you for spreading the word.
Interesting how RC boats aren't dangerous at all, isn't it? FAA has been making a mountain out of this mole hill for over a decade already and they will not give it up for anything! smh!
You know what is more dangerous then drones. Politicians. They should all have a ankle monitor that tells us where they are and warns us when they get near their place of work. That way we know when harm is about to befall us. But seriously I'm sure they won't mind everyone knowing where they are at all times. They are working for our best interest we has no reason to harm them or protest outside their home.
All the bs around drones (licensing, limitations and all that) just turned me off the hobby years ago. Sad that they keep hammering on the drone community as if they were literal criminals, with a GPS ankle device to track them
IF you are going to be flying beyond line-of-sight of your rc model aircraft, I might can see the need for such a thing as remote id... as there will always be some idiot who will fly their drone from their backyard and into someone else's backyard down the street using FPV (how would you like to look out your back door and see a drone hovering mere feet off the ground in your fenced back yard having no idea where the idiot flying it is located?). Back when RC aircraft were difficult to learn to build and fly, people who wanted to fly RC would have to find someone already skilled to teach them... now any idiot with a hundred bucks can be an instant drone pilot with no education on how to fly or how to fly responsibly, and there'in lies some of the problem with the quad-copter drones of today! No discipline at all is required in order to fly these machines.
@@michaelshrader5139 So we need to enact literal home surveillance to stop a few pranksters and kids? Sure makes sense. Not to talk about the fact that people drive cars with no responsibility even if they were throughly taught how to do so safely and have a regular license. So your other argument is nonsense. Also yeah sure back in your day nobody used RC planes at longish distance with binoculars to drop "funny jokes" in someone's yard because I sure never saw that happen in my day. Nor ever took part in such foul activity in my youth
It's because drones are a POWERFUL tool to expose government corruption. And eventually when the corruption is revealed they could be very effective weapons and/or reconnaissance vehicles.
Hi Louis, thanks for making a video on Remote ID. I did want to point out just a few things, as this video will be watched by a lot of non-drone users. I feel it may scare them from even bothering to enter our hobby, which is a huge issue. There is a weight exclusion carved out: For recreational use, Remote ID is required ONLY for drones/aircraft that weigh more than 250 grams. As an example, a DJI Mini 2 can be flown recreationally without Remote ID whatsoever, legally. Registration for recreational use is not required either; though there is a short multiple-choice online test called TRUST. All other airspace rules with respect to drones apply to the below 250g category, but Remote ID and registration is not one of them. The sub250g category is very non-intrusive and friendly due to the size, and it is the default choice by a lot of pilots today for that reason alone. It is a great hobby, and one that can still be enjoyed legally without Remote ID. I have been shifting a lot my fleet toward toward sub-250g over the last couple of years; RID is not new. This was originally commanded by congress for the FAA to implement back in 2018 with the FAA reauthorization act, and in 2020 they proposed the rules that we face today. Thousands of us wrote letters to the FAA during the NPRM to argue against it, and made a lot of noise, a lawsuit happened and was lost, and in the end we are here today with RID nearly fully in effect. Drone manufacturers have needed to include RID on their drones since December of 2022. That means if you go to best buy, and got a newly manufactured drone right now; you probably are already automatically running Remote ID. The September 2023 date basically at this point applies to DIY/self built drones and any remaining manufacturer drones that haven't been brought into compliance by now. Those of us in the drone community have known this was coming for a long time and have been preparing by switching to sub250g.
I wouldn't be surprised if they change that sub250g exclusion to "sub250 AND without camera or any sensors" like they did in Ireland. And they want 40e license that needs to be extended every 2 years. The fact these laws and requirements change all the time is a dealbreaker for recreational use, sounds like it's time for custom fw and diy stuff. It's scary how easy they make manufacturers implement different limitations in expensive hardware that we buy.
Thanks for speaking out about this ridiculous overregulation. We all need to do our part and get the general public educated on how unsafe these regulations are for our pilots including our children! Great video Louis 🤟
Louis, Thank you for shedding light on this, it has been mildly infuriating to have been watching this proliferate. It is interesting also on how we currently classify drones, though I periodically fly quadcopters myself I mainly fly radio-controlled aircraft and annoyingly these rules also apply to them as well. Regardless of what you fly I am a firm believer that these rules were formed from a lack of situational awareness and respect for the people and organizations who constantly and safely partake in this activity.
I'm in the UK, so not Remote ID here yet, BUT, since the UK has a seemingly undending desire to copy everything that the USA does, good or bad, I have no doubt that we RC aircraft enthusiasts (I fly RC Helicopters, so line of site only) will see this moronic policy coming here too, so thanks for hightlighting this BS to your subscribers.
Also one of the biggest misconceptions of remote ID is that it is for drones. It is not! It is for absolutely any remotely operated flying device. Drone, foam airplane, helicopter, glider, you name it.
I retired my drones. I saw the writing on the wall. I work in a regulated industry, I can say this is only the beginning. Every year there is going to be more rules, of course they can change the rules on a whim. Even though their own rules say they have to give notice, they will hold you to those rules even though they never informed anyone of the rule change. That's been my experience in my industry. I'm sure this one is going to be no different. I think in the end, they want to get rid of drones.
you rock! remote id will be putting your life in danger. this is their attempt to try and take more of our rights away. have a great day! all the best to you & yours! digital chin scratches for the kitties! ♥️🙏♥️
Thanks. Long time fan. Longer time drone pilot. Everyone I know who flies, does so to have fun. Some also fly to race. A very few fly to photograph for real estate or for advertisements. It's easy for officials to infringe our rights, because we are a minority who can be painted as nefarious. We aren't.
Thank you for the call to action! Please provide this in every video! As I’ve gotten older, more knowledge and aware of the laws that are being passed I try to at least vote and message my representatives now. Thank you again!
This affects rc aircraft enthusiasts too. Many of our favorite aircraft even though they are made of foam break the 200 or so g limit. Remote ID adds unnecessary weight and complicated electronics (and cost) to our hobby. We’ve gone since the beginning of the hobby with gas planes without a need for this but now with the rise of easy to fly consumer drones comes irresponsable pilots flying in restricted airspace and posing a danger to other people with their reckless flying ruining the hobby for everyone. Fixed wing aircraft are markedly different then consumer quadcopter drones.
The government already has all the capability and infrastructure in place to effectively operate their telemetry tracking and logging for all the reasons it purports to have justification for. So why does Karen next door need access to it? Thank you Louis for shedding light on this.
I am glad more people are talking about this. The licensing process for heavy drones is silly as well. I think the drone licensing process was the only federal process that still required an in-person 2 year renewal non-flying examination (including during the big cough)
The politicians tax me to give the money to Ukraine. Ukraine invests the money in FTX, giving the money to Sam Bankman-Freid. Sam Bankman-Freid gives the money to politicians' campaigns to keep them in office. Those politicians then use their office to take more of my tax money. Your tax dollars are primarily used to oppress you.
@@abdou.the.hereticSelf-improve. Change is coming. This shit won't be able to stay together much longer, and when it collapses, you will need to be competent.
I am a scale rc airplane enthusiast. I build from scratch very detailed large scale 'usually 1/4 or 1/3' rc plane's and have been doing so for over 20 years now. When I first started you didn't need any license as long as it was under 10lbs. Nowadays I have to be a member of the ama as well as having multiple licenses and as of 2 years ago the faa requires me and every member of my club to pay and test in order to have your drone license. Which isn't optional even though not a single one of us ever flies drones at our 'private' fenced, gated and locked club field. It's to the point now if a person is curious about the hobby they would have to spend hundreds of dollars in order to just check it out and barely get your feet wet. Which obviously keeps many people away from the hobby. When you look at why kids are lazy now and prefer to play games and stare at screens it's because of crap like this. Because of government rules and policies it's difficult and expensive to do just about everything. You have to pay to go hiking or camping in Washington state which is majority forest still! We're to the point where we're serious considering getting land in Alaska just to get away from everything and have some real freedom.
You only need a part 107 license if you operate a drone for commercial purposes, want to fly higher than 400' AGL, or want to fly in controlled airspace. Outside of registering a drone over 250 grams, there is no effective weight restriction. Technically 55 lbs but you won't find a recreational drone anywhere near that weight.
@@danieljackheck IIRC you are not "allowed" to fly anything over 1kg/2.2lbs without a part 107 license. There are plenty of small fixed wing aircraft that are heavier than that, some of them with batteries that weigh over a pound a piece. That might have changed since then, but I care little about what the FAA thinks they are going to do, while they still sit there and ignore the litany of more important problems like the fact that they stigmatize mental illness and make it literally impossible for pilots to get the help they need until it's too late.
@@redryder6987 49 USC 44809 "(2) Unmanned aircraft weighing more than 55 pounds.-A person may operate an unmanned aircraft weighing more than 55 pounds, including the weight of anything attached to or carried by the aircraft, under subsection (a) if- (A) the unmanned aircraft complies with standards and limitations developed by a community-based organization and approved by the Administrator; and (B) the aircraft is operated from a fixed site as described in paragraph (1)." There are a ton of 6" and 7" quads running 6s batteries that are well over 1kg.
@@FINNIUSORION you mentioned needing a drone license. I was just saying that outside of commercial use for a business there wouldn't really be a reason your group would be required to get licenses for drone use.
Thanks for highlighting this issue! It's a big problem in the FPV community. Alot of us want to stay legal, but are struggling with the privacy invasion and the likely confrontations we will face.
When you fly in FPV, doesn't matter if with a quadcopter/drone or rc airplane, it's like if you were on-board of it... YOU ARE FLYING... So, imagine the effects of it to someone who is disabled or has depression (my case)... I don't have words to describe it. And you can do FPV even with rc cars. But they need a good suspension, like a crawler, but you can do it! Anyway, thanks, Louis!!!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
middle ground used in Europe: operator ID affixed to drone. i need to have an operator ID to fly my little camera drone, but i don't need to broadcast anything. i just have a little tag with my operator ID number that i tape to my drone, law enforcement can use it to find me if they find or capture my drone but it cannot track my current location and cannot be observed from a distance.
I cannot express how thankful I am that you're covering this. It's absolutely a bigger deal than it seems at first and I'm so glad you're taking the time to talk about it.
RemoteID will definitely have an international impact: drones or any kind of aircraft are sold at a worldwide scale and there’s no way the manufacturers will create separate processes for the US market. That means yes, as a Canadian, I will get spied on by Mr and Ms everyone if I buy a drone in the next years.
Most hobby fliers are building their own drones and the remote id module is something you either attach or don't. Only camera drone manufacturers like DJI are going to have this built in.
this remote ID has been going on for a few years now. Im surprised that louis hasn't talked about it till now... but that being said, i'm glad he is! This is a big issue that people NEED to know about, better late than never!
@@nuddin99 Remote ID compliance for manufacturers for any newly made aircraft was September 2022, actually. They pushed it forward to December 2022, but most manufacturers were ready for it and had already lit up RID on their drones. Anything made in the last 7 months already has it. September 2023 is for the final hold outs: any manufacturer-made aircraft prior to Dec 2022, and any DIY aircraft will need it come September. There's tons out there with RID on their off-the-shelf quads that have no idea they even have it enabled. It is a little late to fight this now, unfortunately.
These same points apply to destroying gun control arguments. Criminals don't care about following rules. Look how many Glock switches end up in California. Great video as usual
Every few weeks at my previous apartment complex, someone would fly a drone around the buildings late at night to look through all the windows -- I came face to face with it when I stepped out on my patio to see what the noise was. It was prolly just some tween looking for a glimpse of something he could have found MUCH more easily on the internet. This went on for literally two years tho -- and after the third or fourth time of it, I woulda loved to have had their GPS info.
But you know that if you shoot or otherwise attempt to do anything to hinder the flight of that drone, you would be committing a crime (I think it's a felony in fact)?
@@michaelshrader5139 Indeed! They have more rights than I do in that scenario. Which is why I would take that GPS info to the police and let them deal with it. And if they don't, I would escalate it to a state or national level. Yes, it ticked me off THAT much. And considering that the last time I saw it before I moved out of that complex, a half-naked couple in the next building were trying to hit it with what looked like a broom and a mop from their patio, I'd imagine a lot of the residents there would have supported such an endeavor.
I can think of much better ways to spy on people through their windows. Using a drone to do that is just a fancy but a very risky way to do it. I am very surprised that it went on for 2 years without costing the perpetrator 50 crashed drones.
@@aliberkozderya3112 It may have -- while I regularly heard it, I only saw the drone a few times, and it was never very clearly (even the night I was face-to-face with it on my patio -- I could tell it was a drone, but that's about it... it moved fast and it was too dark to see more than that) but the sound of it did change a lot. I know very little about drones, but I'd wager that change in volume and pitch meant it was either a new/different drone or it was a bit gimpy from a recent crash hehe!
@@olencone4005 interesting... hopefully it failed to capture anything "interesting". Personally, all of my windows are visible from the buildings in the surrounding area so, if I don't want to be seen I have to close my curtains anyways. A drone spying on me would be the least of my concerns. Thanks for your response and have a good day
Had the inflatable swimming pool filled. My kids were splashing around naked. Nobody could see. Then I heard a humming noise. Emagine the thoughts going through my mind when I noticed the drone hovering above my property. Nobody got injured. Nobody got killed. But I certainly wanted to know which neighbour flew above our house with a flycam.
Why would somone who are up to no good have remote id tho? doesn't matter if it's a law or not. What is the point of laws that only makes the one who tries to follow them suffer?
This is why we need to STOP REELECTING ANYONE UNTIL WE GET OUT RIGHTS BACK, no "oh I like this one". They all need to be voted out until they stop infringing on citizens rights. Until we take our system back nothing will change and nothing will get better
It only takes one vote to elect a person. Even if absolutely nobody voted, a person could just elect themselves with their own vote. This is a losing strategy and all you're going to win with that is even worse politicians than the ones we have now - and *that* is saying something. What you are proposing is essentially putting duct tape over your own mouth in a time when you absolutely need to call for help or nobody will hear you.
@@Bonanzaking You totally missed my point. Which is to be expected. On another note, I am very sadden that folks like you exist only to excuse corporate authoritarianism and neo-fuedalism. Its as if humanity just cant wait to run back to old-school dictatorship.😒
Thanks for helping to highlight this important issue Louis. We're about to try and drag the mainstream media into this so any extra profile that RUclipsrs like yourself can create is brilliant. The drone/RC community thanks you!
Somehow I KNEW I wouldnt need to send you the link for this Sir Bruce! ;)
Thanks for all you do, & thanks Louis for making this issue known to a much larger audience.
Delighted to see Louis Rossmann cover this!! ❤
xjet is best jet. Anytime, sir. Any time. 😊
Here in Italy there is a similar system that just says where the drones are only to the police because there are some areas where you can't fly drones and so they get your location and arrest you/do their business
@@rossmanngroup Louis please see my comment further below as a response to this video. I apologize that my comment is long but it provides an important perspective that I don't see represented in any other comments here. Please understand I'm a huge fan with massive appreciation for everything you do. I respectfully disagree with your position on this one topic. Sincere.
This is nearly 5 agencies in the past 2 months that have proposed significantly privacy violating measures in the name of safety...
-Kids online protection act
-Adobe proposing mandated metadata on all media files
-ESRB offering facial recognition as a verification method to buy rated M games (which is not a requirement, but all it would take is a politician with 5 angry karens [all non-mothers] demanding it to be a law)
- the UK demanding a backdoor on all encryption (which would ensure the security for blackhat hackers for years to come)
And now this crud.
I DON'T WANT PEOPLE SNIFFING MY REAR END JUST TO ACCESS A WEBSITE OR JUST EXIST!!!
They are learning directly from China, don't forget the pandemic.
"but all it would take is a politician with 5 angry karens [all non-mothers] demanding it to be a law)"
No, no no. The 5 angry Karens will absolutely be mothers. There are few groups of people more irrational, rabid and unhinged than mothers who demand to outsource their responsibilities to the state and broader society so they don't have to look out for their kids' safety themselves.
If you ever stripped the paint off a piece of furniture or something in the last couple of years and wondered why the paint stripper seemed useless its because the government forced the removal of methylene chloride from paint strippers. This was the chemical that made them work so well. The removal of it was due to all the idiots that killed themselves by using the stuff in a closed room and suffocating on the fumes. So how many thousands died? around 60 in the last 40 years. Not 60 thousand, sixty.
@@AngryReptileKeeper Thank you. I was going to say the same thing.
France, not the UK. (might be UK too, I don't know about that.)
As George Carlin said, you don't have rights, you have privileges and they can take them away from you whenever they want.
"Criminals don't follow the law". Such a simple message, yet it seems to be lost on so many lawmakers over generations.
Thank you so much Louis for posting this. I was the one who sent the email who asked to discuss this. You have my sincerest gratitude.
we need to work together
I read my email. Slowly, but if you didn't send me a book, I read my email.
If you send me a book and are not clear with what you want, all bets are off. I can't stand the vague shit asking for a meeting later. But I read through the emails that are normal and not annoying.
Thanks for informing me!
Based
Where do you find the email for Louis? I would like to send him a reply. Thanks.
I asked in the comments.... email much better choice lol
remote ID for drones is a test drive before it is made mandatory for cars.
- it is advertised as "digital licence plate"
- it is "necessary" for the autonomus delivery drones. "don't you want fast delivery?"
- "drone pilots need to be held responsible for their actions"
- "it's very inexpensive and simple to retrofit the remote ID module"
Still not putting it on my drones.
Everybody comparing this to a license plate on a vehicle seems to be missing the point that your vehicle is not constantly broadcasting your location with your identity and logging it
There will be no delivery drones outside edge cases, like places where there are no roads, or the roads are terrible and a van full of stuff is not practicle.
yup, it's an ankle monitor not a licence plate: ruclips.net/video/xcK74LPHGeA/видео.html
@@rossmanngroup The newer ones do. And have an built in killswitch, the law passed awhile ago.
I spoke with a guy with actual FAA ID years before all this started. He laid out the whole plan and I thought he was full of crap. This was well over 15 years ago. His timeline was faster than what actually happened, but he said it will be adjusted based on push back. The end goal is no hobby air RC larger than 500 grams. According to him the next goal after RID was to start restricting weight on the high end. The plan was to have additional requirements for heavy craft, and then to gradually lower the weight until no one was flying anything over 500g. He said the reason was Amazon told them that their drones could withstand a 500 gram drone hitting their drones. I don't know if any of this is real, but the guy was spot on for the last 15 years. If he was crazy then he was really good at guessing.
The government is ran by corporations and people who have no fucking clue. Reject humanity and return to monke
If you should take anything away from the past 5 years, its that just because someone is crazy, doesn't mean they are wrong.
Yeah. Im fairly certain, based on all the stuff Ive found, this is 100% being asked for by corporations wanting the airspace for drone delivery. Like its known thats a reason, but I think its the only reason and everything else is just fluff. Several years ago the FAA asked Google, Amazon, T-Mobile, UPS and a few other companies with nothing to do with aviation or the rc hobby to help design the remoteID module. Weird that not one single aviation company was brought on.
Is called fascism, when corporations and government conspire against the best interests of the people.
@@RicardoSantos-oz3uj Yes. This is one action of a much larger one.
You can tell they’ve gotten bolder these past few years with all this dystopian stuff coming out.
If we aren’t willing to defend these guys who knows how far it’ll go. They can just say oh this is for security therefore we can ignore your human rights. What a joke
Cause the trucker strike didn't happen in the US
Think of the children
They're trying to make us tired and helpless by adding all of these bills and signing all of these laws. It's insane.
Yep.
In a nutshell.
It did. They weren't allowed into the district of criminals. The criminals wanted to criminalize the act and declare it a war if the truckers went in there.. similar to what crime minister turdbrain did to the truckers in Ottawa. @@TheMysteryDriver
Did you the miss the convoy across the United States??
Because I got out there and rode along with them on the highway when they passed through my nearby area.
Even if there were drone users looking to do harm, this surveillance policy won't in any way prevent it.
EXACTLY!
It may stop irresponsible morons and that's enough. There is no shortage of those.
wow... really makes you think... its almost like... criminals don't follow rules????? what a SHOCKING REVELATION!
If you just brand everyone a criminal and lock them up, then they cannot do any criminal activity anymore. Truly a genius move from the great government.
Because it's about drone delivery and not about safety.... :(
Thank you for covering this Louis.
As an Australian drone pilot I'm sure that my stupid, no imagination government will follow the US lead - and we don't even have any equivalent to your 4th amendment protection.
Time to start reading and putting forward tour concerns...
www.infrastructure.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/remote-id-discussion-paper_public-consultation.pdf
Closes tomorrow, BTW.
Hey, not everyone who needs to be aware of the location of the drone will have the proper technology to receive the signal.
Drones need a 90+db speaker constantly broadcasting the voice of a screaming baby!
@@tin2001 thanks for that. Boy do I hate being right...
Australians aren't even allowed to fly FPV. Absolutely brain dead.
The Australian citizen does not even have any rights enshrined in the Australian constitution. I fully agree with your take on "I'm sure that my stupid, no imagination government will follow the US lead", in fact I think they are already moving in that direction.
Louis, it’s Wednesday.
He has finally lost it…
Just about to comment that.
Could be a recording from saturday 🤔
You're just not in the right mindset. You should always be having a beautiful Saturday. Every day.
Let's do the Time Warp again!!
As a fpv drone builder and flyer, I really appreciate this. Thank you so much for bringing this to a more mainstream audience. Also, remember this applies to rc helicopter and airplane enthusiasts as well.
It will fail and not last long and it will go away.
@@Zeaiclies Whole EU is implementing it.
@@svenvanwier7196
So what! It will not last long and will go away.
@@Zeaiclies I am basically saying that up until now the news only got darker.
And altho I hope you are right, the fact is its only being implemented more and more.
By saying "so what" it looks like you are just in denial, while I was hoping you had some good news.
@@svenvanwier7196
I know that in the USA, it will not last long, because the FAA has no idea how to handle all the logistics of such an endeavor.
As far as the EU, my "so what" was because it is not relevant to me and also one can just fly Illegally in either country and they really can not do anything about it.
Not in denial, as it is a thing but a thing that can be ignored and even if one complies with said thing, it will quickly cease to be a thing eventually or everyone will simply ignore it, because they can not enforce it.
It's always about "safety," isn't it? And the general public will eat it up, as per usual.
Yeah, it's a violation of the 4th, but good f*cking luck getting our useless SCOTUS to hear a challenge on this.
driver licenses are a violation of 4th too, but they had an 'overriding public interest'. You didnt need a horse and carriage license to use public roads.
@@neglectfulsausage7689 Speaking of driving, I wonder what the legal obligation to purchase car insurance violates? Because that's the government requiring you to purchase a product, and from private companies no less.
I'm sure the auto insurance companies absolutely _loved_ it when that law was put into place. In fact, I bet they're the ones who lobbied for it.
Sounds like we need RemoteID for vending machines then. Thank you, Louis, for bringing this to our attention.
RemoteID on cars, chainsaws, bottles of alcohol, tobacco products, bagel knives, wet bathtubs and showers...
@@MonkeyJedi99 cars? great idea!!!
@@MonkeyJedi99 first and foremost? Firearms! They outshine drones in every aspect of criminal use!
And i wanna see them TRY to pass that into law.
@@wurgel1 cancer kills more then guns annually - so we obviously need this tech included on anything that can potentially cause cancer, so this should be included in all the pollution which releases into the atmosphere, right?
Impossible? Nah, nano machines would be able to handle this, obviously, so let's start with the bigger killers first....
Imagine you go to the store to buy a pressure cooker and it has this id feature. Your neighbors/anyone can see when you're using it and where you are. Of course this was put in place to keep bad actors from using the pressure cooker as an improvised bomb.... because that could, emphasis on could, happen.
For drone hobbyists, this is what this would be similar to.
as a DIY smart home user, we already able to sniff neighbors BLE beacons like your smart toothbrushes, smart scale, smart thermometers without any login/key. the worse I can flash your thermometer with custom firmware and make your thermometer screen looks funny.
@@tk-maker Marketing and fascism have two things in common: Call something its opposite and no one will object.
@@tk-maker I feel like that's on the neighbor for not putting a password on their stuff.
@@cameron7374 nope, no need pwd at all, your house data just broadcast by BLE. try search "CUSTOM FIRMWARE Xiaomi LYWSD03MMC", the IoT (internet of thing) world is a wide open door. also DJI has aeroscope out there for so long, they know every DJI drone take off.
Thanks for talking about this Louis! From my perspective inside the FPV community, we are just ants getting stepped on by the FAA and congress. Every voice talking about this issue helps to shed some light on us!
Not ants… sneks. *No step on snek!*
This makes drone signal sniffing so much more attractive from a cybersec angle. Actually insane how people think remoteID is defendable
everything is defendable if you have no idea of how it works or why it's ridicolous bs
@@marcogenovesi8570 The opposite applies as well. If you are ignorant you can "attack" every idea you don't understand implications of. Some say that background checks are violation of privacy when buying a gun..
they already do this with our phones..... they can remotely tap into our mic and cameras on our phones. the apps we use have that coded in as national security.
@@AlpineHiker I encourage you to look into the types of state-sponsored smartphone attacks that happen against journalists reporting on corruption in the UAE. It makes warrantless wiretapping in the US look like child’s play.
@@AlpineHiker not really they don't. They can tap phone calls as that is done by asking the ISP but not use the mic and camera on command
Thanks for helping to bring this to light, Louis. The fact that our control station is transmitted is very invasive and dangerous. The drone community thanks you!
we are moving faster to 1984 rather than 2040
Most people probably don't even know that "1984" was a novel about the government being able to observe you 24 x 7 anywhere and everywhere even inside your own home. I'm also reminded of the future San Francisco in the movie "Demolition Man" where swearing anywhere would automatically generate a citation against you for using profanity! Still not sure what the 3 sea shells were for though... the citations were good for wiping ones ass though. 😕
The NSA has fields of servers, recording and surveillance, and everything we do. Snowden proved it and is branded a treasonous traitor for telling the public. The government wants to control you without you resisting.
@@michaelshrader5139 You don't know how to use the 3 shells? *snickers*
If we're applying this to *other* things that can hurt you, we need to push it to the logical extremes.
Vacuum cleaners: Don't touch the business end while it's running.
Charging cables: If the coating is damaged, you have a spot that burns to the touch (and a potential fire hazard).
Doors: They'll hurt if you open them towards yourself too hard without stepping out of the way. Also, when the door is open, don't stick your fingers in the crevice at the hinge side. By the way, I'm talking about unpowered doors. Not automatic ones; just standard "turn the knob and pull/push" doors that we've had since before electricity was discovered.
Hard floors: Don't trip!
Legos: Don't leave them on the floor if you're walking without shoes.
Hard floors covered in Legos: A facefull of *ouch.*
Whenever Louis says “ I hope you’re having a beautiful day”, we all know our day’s about to be a lot worse due to what he’s got to say after.
Thank you Lois for speaking for us. Myself I do not live in America but I am afraid stupidity spreads fast
Not only drones, but all unmanned aircraft. Including your kids foam rc airplane.
Thanks for covering this so well louis
Unfortunately the FAA is ran by politicians who can't make the distinction between a remote controlled helicopter, quadrotor, aircraft, and a real drone: the MQ-9 Reaper; and it's also ran by career pilots, who do not want to see their hegemony threatened. They use the term "drone" as a catch-all and as a way to cast them in an unappealing light by making them seem like something that only the Air Force should have and that anyone else that has them are potential terrorists.
Great Job Louis! Thank you so much for using your platform and popularity to bring this to attention! Remote ID is going to be a HUGE problem for everyone in our hobby and anyone who flys in a plane! Please say NO to Remote ID!
You can say no to whatever you want. They'll do it anyway. They already know there's no consequences for their actions.
Oh ho, I can't fly my drone into airspace not knowing anything about flight rules, undetected. Fascists are taking away my freeeeedom 😂
Government: We can record anyone anywhere, all people must be surveyed.
Also Governemnt: uhhhhmhmhmh idk maaaann that epstein guy just doesn't show up on cameras.
The FAA attack on model airplanes is sickening, remember the real reason why is to attack press photographers. This is about attacking photography.
bro the farmers of america dont care about ur plane.
How can you still stay a positive tech enthusiast considering all the unfortunate subjects you're covering?
Right? If I wasn't addicted to the internet I'd wanna go full luddite at this point.
The world is far better now than it was 100, 200, 500 yrs ago.
1700 yrs ago, you did what your dad did. Oh, you want to be an artist instead of a blacksmith? Off with your head. Oh, you don't want to go fight in the king's war? Off with your head. Oh, you don't want to marry who you're arranged to marry? You're expunged from the community.
300-500 yrs ago, the plague, smallpox... that killed something like 1/3 of the people it infected, and it was horrible.
100 yrs ago, probably would've died at age 35 or something. There was no air conditioning, music was mostly for rich people who could afford to pay the orchestra to see them live(stuff like lansing 604e didn't come out until late 1930s for non-shit hifi audio)... going to a bar was illegal.
We live in 2023... life is awesome man. We are where we are because we constantly course corrected the things that went awry. because we cleaned up our own corner of the world as much as possible.. and fixed as much stuff that was broken as we could. Whether with a soldering iron or words. and as long as we keep doing that, it'll get better.
There'll be roadbumps along the way. There have ALWAYS been roadbumps along the way! There's no better time than the present, and if we put work in, there will be no better time than the future.
Life is awesome for me. I hope it is for you!! If it isn't, I hope it eventually is.
@@rossmanngroup It is worse than 2014...
2014 was the peak humanity year.
Everything has been rolling downhill since.
2014 was the year I started making board repair videos. Is there something you're trying to say? ;)
@@blinking_dodoare you sure you weren’t just 13 in 2014?
There should be a legislation pushed that all legislators and high government officials should broadcast their location, amount of people close to them and personal identifiable information in a way anyone can obtain, so that everyone can make sure to be able and go to help them. It would be for their """""SAFETY""""".
It could be called, the government official security initiative!
Thinking of it later, I should have named it "Information Defense Initiative Over Terrorism"
or something else that would result in a good acronym
"man they all really spend a lot of time at that WEIRD pizza place huh? strange..."
i support this program, apply the mentioned policies of idiot on officials until they stop being idiots
"government official security initiative!"
No no no. you are missing the most important step.
Change it to: Government Official Security and Safety Information Protocol.
Or in short, the GOSSIP-Act.
Gotta sell it, if you want it passed.
@@mrrooter601trumptards don't have a Brain lol
Wow this is awesome Louis! Thank you so much for touching on a pain point for so many of us.
Remote ID is an unbelievable “Big Brother” move. Shocking.
Drones do in fact cause more injuries in the US than vending machines. Vending machines resulted in 150 injuries and fatalities between 1975 and 1995, meanwhile drones resulted in ~4,250 injuries between 2015 and 2020.
But Louis, Louis. All these people watching Ukraine videos realize they can drop boom-booms from their drones. If we don't put this into law now, and say it is for *your* safety, then when we enact the Police State and start rounding up 'dissidents' these drones could rain down ouch on our Faithful Loyal Altruistic Glorious (FLAG) of the Police State. Remember Louis, "Our Safety is your safety!" (sickening jingle music)
And Ukraine *ALREADY* has to modify drones exactly so that they won't broadcast their remote ID, which russians could pick up and use for artillery barrages.
As if literal planes and boats didn't routinely turn off or even spoof their transponders whenever it was advantageous since the literal invention of transponders
I dare any of those imagining that to fly a drone that does not have the "dji" assists.
@@caav56Russians were and are using the dji a to drone solution...
Well it's not false, US is doing their best to train future Ukrainian terrorists in DIY drone combat. Imagine how much love they will have for their "allies" when those stop paying and the war is actually lost.
Spot on! On appeal, the RDQ case failed because their argument was premature, as RDQ cannot, at this time, prove that the rule has caused them any damage. Until a citizen has been damaged by the Remote ID rule, there is no issue in controversy, so there cannot be a cause of action. Why? Because, the rule is not in effect yet, and therefore, cannot hurt anyone. Things will get interesting after September 16, 2023. Once a citizen is damaged by the rule, constitutionally, it’s game on!
Excellent.... As a drone builder and flyer myself i agree completely
I'm a hobbyist and commercial licensed drone operator. Thanks for giving more visibility to this issue!
This going to be done to go after people trying to hold government accountable using drones.
You are a revolutionary leader!! Thank you for what you do. I have a huge amount of respect for you sir.
Normies still don't realize how invasive and ubiquitous data collection, analysis, tracking, and surveillance are - and those that do say "I don't really care, I have nothing to hide.' The app I am working on sales pitch I give to people, I tell them 'I and my company's auperapp will never analyze, track or sell your data' and they look at me with a deer in the headlight look. Big Tech and Big Business over the past 25 years of the internet really have conditioned people to be apathetic to their data privacy and rights and have actually been opaque (and deceptive) about their policies.
I recently came across your channel and I am happy you are one of the few vocal techies advocating for the end user instead of being like the majority who just want to screw them over and make money off them. We need more Louis Rossmanns to fight the good fight!
You did a great job covering this subject. Thank you for helping to spread the word!
Thank you Louis! This hits close to home as someone in the FPV hobby.
BIG Support from the drone utility inspection world as well!
Skydio and Verizon (Skyward) lobbied hard for these regulations - the original legislation for this had language that included all drones broadcast this information online. If I was a betting man, I would say this will be a requirement in a few years.
Thank you so much Louis for bringing attention to this. I recently started my drone business and while I partially understand how broadcasting could lead to increased safety, broadcasting to the general public puts pilots in tremendous danger
How does it increase safety? What does it protect against?
@@libtrs838no reply…hope he’s not some AI.
@@emmanuelexantus4229wut
@@libtrs838 It doesn't. Seems he's one of those who would rather be spied on by the government than the public.
@@libtrs838 there have been plenty of incidents, where drones were flown across busy airport runways. Or where people used them to spy on their hot neighbours. Because of people like those, technology like this is needed. Your freedom ends at the point where other people are negatively affected.
I remember when general guidance was that if you stay under 300 feet and don't fly over anyone's head you had nothing to worry about.
They came for the drone pilots, and I said nothing because I didn’t own a drone, then they came for the VRusers and I said nothing because I didn’t use VR. Then they came for the cellphone users and I said nothing…
Oh, read the kids protect act, they want facial recognition in the os level
@@fss1704 but only for the masses, not for them. They all get special privileges to be exempt from it for “security purposes”
Ignorant take. Phones already have "remote id", it's called IMEI. Different id gets broadcasted but agencies can track any device once they contact network operator. In fact every GSM, WCDMA.. modem has one, globally unique, yes. Scary .. where is my libertyyyyty😂
@@reav3rtm so then do they need ANOTHER piece of info to track? Most drones use a smartphone app already.
@@L337f33t they actually don't, they use the same OS as we do, they have register in the same databases as we do, and they have no plausible reason to be exempt without creating a precedent that this shit shouldn't exist.
Thank you Louis.
On the topic of surveillance and privacy. You also can’t forget about the various laws that are trying to be passed, Kosa, the restrict act, earn it, even the U.K. has been trying to pass their online safety bill. In theory, these are suppose to protect people online, but feels more like trying to track people, know what they are doing and survey them for what every they want.
Thank you for covering this Luis Rossman and you did a superb job covering this issue. All aspects of why this regulatory overreach is such a problem for drone pilots everywhere. (not just the USA) 👍🇬🇧
Here in the Netherlands drone flying is regulated so much it's basically impossible to do so. You'll need a license, you'll need to be in visible range of the drone, maximum allowed height, maximum allowed weight, not within 5 KM of ANY airport or "no-fly" zone (remember, the Netherlands is a small country with multiple airports), you'll need an insurance, etc. Governments really hate drones.
I agree with remaining within visual flying distance of your RC aircraft no matter what kind of "aircraft" it may be. What I do not ever want to see is some unknown drone hovering in my backyard with no pilot to be found anywhere! There'in lies the problem with allowing people to operate quad-copter drones out of the pilot's visual line of sight, someone will always misuse and abuse that capability.
"The Netherlands is a small country with multiple airports"... Laughs in Belgian. 🤣
That is still much more fair and consistent than what the US’ RemoteID achieves: RC aircrafts can be a safety and privacy hazard, but showing your position and personal info to everyone as a pilot is even worse on both fronts. The US (and Canada recently) are very good at offering a solution that doesn’t address the root cause of an issue, or should I say, does address what lobbyists make the root cause look to be.
In Slovakia, we have similar laws, except you don't need a license. And you know what, the rules make perfect sense and strike a good balance between safety of general and commercial aviation and freedom of small drone operators. A larger drone can take out an airplane, it's no joke.
@@EvenTheDogAgrees As a licensed drone pilot in Belgium, I'll join you in laughing with that statement😂.
Thank so much for bringing this up, I fly FPV and use a dji drone in my business. My Air 2 is not RID compatible, so I’m already going to need to invest in a newer drone to be compliant. Also, often when I’m flying not only do I have my drone equipment with me, but about 7-10k of gear as well in my car. Knowing anyone in the area can now see my location with my livelihood in tow…almost makes it too risky to fly.
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I wish I had a beautiful Saturday morning on this beautiful Wednesday
I'm so happy to see you talking about this, Louis! Our community isn't exactly massive or influential enough on our own. Thank you for spreading the word.
They Just want to kick hobbyist out of the drone flying business
Interesting how RC boats aren't dangerous at all, isn't it? FAA has been making a mountain out of this mole hill for over a decade already and they will not give it up for anything! smh!
@@michaelshrader5139that open air space is prime commercial drone real estate.
You know what is more dangerous then drones. Politicians. They should all have a ankle monitor that tells us where they are and warns us when they get near their place of work. That way we know when harm is about to befall us. But seriously I'm sure they won't mind everyone knowing where they are at all times. They are working for our best interest we has no reason to harm them or protest outside their home.
All the bs around drones (licensing, limitations and all that) just turned me off the hobby years ago. Sad that they keep hammering on the drone community as if they were literal criminals, with a GPS ankle device to track them
IF you are going to be flying beyond line-of-sight of your rc model aircraft, I might can see the need for such a thing as remote id... as there will always be some idiot who will fly their drone from their backyard and into someone else's backyard down the street using FPV (how would you like to look out your back door and see a drone hovering mere feet off the ground in your fenced back yard having no idea where the idiot flying it is located?). Back when RC aircraft were difficult to learn to build and fly, people who wanted to fly RC would have to find someone already skilled to teach them... now any idiot with a hundred bucks can be an instant drone pilot with no education on how to fly or how to fly responsibly, and there'in lies some of the problem with the quad-copter drones of today! No discipline at all is required in order to fly these machines.
@@michaelshrader5139 So we need to enact literal home surveillance to stop a few pranksters and kids? Sure makes sense.
Not to talk about the fact that people drive cars with no responsibility even if they were throughly taught how to do so safely and have a regular license. So your other argument is nonsense.
Also yeah sure back in your day nobody used RC planes at longish distance with binoculars to drop "funny jokes" in someone's yard because I sure never saw that happen in my day. Nor ever took part in such foul activity in my youth
It's because drones are a POWERFUL tool to expose government corruption. And eventually when the corruption is revealed they could be very effective weapons and/or reconnaissance vehicles.
@@Saphirefenix How exactly? Explain.
@@Dranzell Ukraine.
Hi Louis, thanks for making a video on Remote ID. I did want to point out just a few things, as this video will be watched by a lot of non-drone users. I feel it may scare them from even bothering to enter our hobby, which is a huge issue. There is a weight exclusion carved out: For recreational use, Remote ID is required ONLY for drones/aircraft that weigh more than 250 grams. As an example, a DJI Mini 2 can be flown recreationally without Remote ID whatsoever, legally. Registration for recreational use is not required either; though there is a short multiple-choice online test called TRUST. All other airspace rules with respect to drones apply to the below 250g category, but Remote ID and registration is not one of them. The sub250g category is very non-intrusive and friendly due to the size, and it is the default choice by a lot of pilots today for that reason alone. It is a great hobby, and one that can still be enjoyed legally without Remote ID.
I have been shifting a lot my fleet toward toward sub-250g over the last couple of years; RID is not new. This was originally commanded by congress for the FAA to implement back in 2018 with the FAA reauthorization act, and in 2020 they proposed the rules that we face today. Thousands of us wrote letters to the FAA during the NPRM to argue against it, and made a lot of noise, a lawsuit happened and was lost, and in the end we are here today with RID nearly fully in effect. Drone manufacturers have needed to include RID on their drones since December of 2022. That means if you go to best buy, and got a newly manufactured drone right now; you probably are already automatically running Remote ID. The September 2023 date basically at this point applies to DIY/self built drones and any remaining manufacturer drones that haven't been brought into compliance by now. Those of us in the drone community have known this was coming for a long time and have been preparing by switching to sub250g.
I wouldn't be surprised if they change that sub250g exclusion to "sub250 AND without camera or any sensors" like they did in Ireland. And they want 40e license that needs to be extended every 2 years. The fact these laws and requirements change all the time is a dealbreaker for recreational use, sounds like it's time for custom fw and diy stuff.
It's scary how easy they make manufacturers implement different limitations in expensive hardware that we buy.
Thanks for speaking out about this ridiculous overregulation. We all need to do our part and get the general public educated on how unsafe these regulations are for our pilots including our children! Great video Louis 🤟
Thank you for your support of FREEDOM 👍👍🇺🇸
Yes tech enthusiasts unite , I’m a drone pilot and this is one of the largest overreaches in legislation history. Thanks for the video!
Thank you for speaking out. Please keep making videos on this topic to raise awareness!
Louis,
Thank you for shedding light on this, it has been mildly infuriating to have been watching this proliferate. It is interesting also on how we currently classify drones, though I periodically fly quadcopters myself I mainly fly radio-controlled aircraft and annoyingly these rules also apply to them as well. Regardless of what you fly I am a firm believer that these rules were formed from a lack of situational awareness and respect for the people and organizations who constantly and safely partake in this activity.
I'm in the UK, so not Remote ID here yet, BUT, since the UK has a seemingly undending desire to copy everything that the USA does, good or bad, I have no doubt that we RC aircraft enthusiasts (I fly RC Helicopters, so line of site only) will see this moronic policy coming here too, so thanks for hightlighting this BS to your subscribers.
Also one of the biggest misconceptions of remote ID is that it is for drones. It is not! It is for absolutely any remotely operated flying device. Drone, foam airplane, helicopter, glider, you name it.
peter sripol on his way to strap a tracking beacon to his hotdog so he can legally fly and/or crash it
What about a kite? What about a party balloon?
@@VV-nw4cz those aren't remotely controlled model aircrafts
@@VV-nw4cz but also in that jest, a model rocket doesn't need it.
Good
Thank you for speaking up about this Louis!!! We appreciate the help to Save Our Hobby!
I retired my drones. I saw the writing on the wall. I work in a regulated industry, I can say this is only the beginning. Every year there is going to be more rules, of course they can change the rules on a whim. Even though their own rules say they have to give notice, they will hold you to those rules even though they never informed anyone of the rule change. That's been my experience in my industry. I'm sure this one is going to be no different.
I think in the end, they want to get rid of drones.
Where I live it's already so over regulated that my drone was retired for me.
Thank you for speaking on this. Overregulation is killing our hobby.
you rock! remote id will be putting your life in danger. this is their attempt to try and take more of our rights away.
have a great day!
all the best to you & yours!
digital chin scratches for the kitties!
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This is so important to talk about. Thank you Louis!
In Seattle at the Fred Meyer they tried to scan my sister’s driver license to buy wine. The clerk couldn’t understand why anyone would object.
Thanks. Long time fan. Longer time drone pilot. Everyone I know who flies, does so to have fun. Some also fly to race. A very few fly to photograph for real estate or for advertisements. It's easy for officials to infringe our rights, because we are a minority who can be painted as nefarious. We aren't.
HAHAHA "Imagine if your gun broadcast it's location"? People would loose their minds!
Thank you for the call to action! Please provide this in every video! As I’ve gotten older, more knowledge and aware of the laws that are being passed I try to at least vote and message my representatives now. Thank you again!
This affects rc aircraft enthusiasts too. Many of our favorite aircraft even though they are made of foam break the 200 or so g limit. Remote ID adds unnecessary weight and complicated electronics (and cost) to our hobby. We’ve gone since the beginning of the hobby with gas planes without a need for this but now with the rise of easy to fly consumer drones comes irresponsable pilots flying in restricted airspace and posing a danger to other people with their reckless flying ruining the hobby for everyone. Fixed wing aircraft are markedly different then consumer quadcopter drones.
Thx for covering this outside of the RC/Drone community
it's always about safety...at the cost of freedom
edit: most of the time safety argument is bullshit
"If it saves even one life"
"Think of the children"
"In this day and age"
...
Yawn.
@@MonkeyJedi99 it is about safety... but not yours or mine ;) plebs cant have equal opportunity ;)
Thanks for coming out and being a voice for my hobby
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety
- Benjamin Franklin
Thanks for covering this! FPV pilots everywhere appreciate it.
The government already has all the capability and infrastructure in place to effectively operate their telemetry tracking and logging for all the reasons it purports to have justification for. So why does Karen next door need access to it? Thank you Louis for shedding light on this.
I am glad more people are talking about this. The licensing process for heavy drones is silly as well. I think the drone licensing process was the only federal process that still required an in-person 2 year renewal non-flying examination (including during the big cough)
And you pay govt to do this to you thru taxes!
The politicians tax me to give the money to Ukraine.
Ukraine invests the money in FTX, giving the money to Sam Bankman-Freid.
Sam Bankman-Freid gives the money to politicians' campaigns to keep them in office.
Those politicians then use their office to take more of my tax money.
Your tax dollars are primarily used to oppress you.
Ive been coasting on savings until SHTF cause of shit like this. The government is the enemy.
@@abdou.the.hereticSelf-improve. Change is coming. This shit won't be able to stay together much longer, and when it collapses, you will need to be competent.
So good to have you share a sane man's views.
Especially one who understands that criminals use bad laws to identify their victims.
I am a scale rc airplane enthusiast. I build from scratch very detailed large scale 'usually 1/4 or 1/3' rc plane's and have been doing so for over 20 years now. When I first started you didn't need any license as long as it was under 10lbs. Nowadays I have to be a member of the ama as well as having multiple licenses and as of 2 years ago the faa requires me and every member of my club to pay and test in order to have your drone license. Which isn't optional even though not a single one of us ever flies drones at our 'private' fenced, gated and locked club field. It's to the point now if a person is curious about the hobby they would have to spend hundreds of dollars in order to just check it out and barely get your feet wet. Which obviously keeps many people away from the hobby. When you look at why kids are lazy now and prefer to play games and stare at screens it's because of crap like this. Because of government rules and policies it's difficult and expensive to do just about everything. You have to pay to go hiking or camping in Washington state which is majority forest still! We're to the point where we're serious considering getting land in Alaska just to get away from everything and have some real freedom.
You only need a part 107 license if you operate a drone for commercial purposes, want to fly higher than 400' AGL, or want to fly in controlled airspace. Outside of registering a drone over 250 grams, there is no effective weight restriction. Technically 55 lbs but you won't find a recreational drone anywhere near that weight.
@@danieljackheck I was talking about rc plane's, there's two licenses. Anything under 10 lbs and everything 10 lbs and over.
@@danieljackheck IIRC you are not "allowed" to fly anything over 1kg/2.2lbs without a part 107 license. There are plenty of small fixed wing aircraft that are heavier than that, some of them with batteries that weigh over a pound a piece. That might have changed since then, but I care little about what the FAA thinks they are going to do, while they still sit there and ignore the litany of more important problems like the fact that they stigmatize mental illness and make it literally impossible for pilots to get the help they need until it's too late.
@@redryder6987 49 USC 44809
"(2) Unmanned aircraft weighing more than 55 pounds.-A person may operate an unmanned aircraft weighing more than 55 pounds, including the weight of anything attached to or carried by the aircraft, under subsection (a) if-
(A) the unmanned aircraft complies with standards and limitations developed by a community-based organization and approved by the Administrator; and
(B) the aircraft is operated from a fixed site as described in paragraph (1)."
There are a ton of 6" and 7" quads running 6s batteries that are well over 1kg.
@@FINNIUSORION you mentioned needing a drone license. I was just saying that outside of commercial use for a business there wouldn't really be a reason your group would be required to get licenses for drone use.
Thanks for highlighting this issue! It's a big problem in the FPV community. Alot of us want to stay legal, but are struggling with the privacy invasion and the likely confrontations we will face.
When you fly in FPV, doesn't matter if with a quadcopter/drone or rc airplane, it's like if you were on-board of it... YOU ARE FLYING...
So, imagine the effects of it to someone who is disabled or has depression (my case)... I don't have words to describe it.
And you can do FPV even with rc cars. But they need a good suspension, like a crawler, but you can do it!
Anyway, thanks, Louis!!!!!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
middle ground used in Europe: operator ID affixed to drone.
i need to have an operator ID to fly my little camera drone, but i don't need to broadcast anything.
i just have a little tag with my operator ID number that i tape to my drone, law enforcement can use it to find me if they find or capture my drone but it cannot track my current location and cannot be observed from a distance.
Unfortunately, the American constitution and bill of rights that I read about no longer exists.
I cannot express how thankful I am that you're covering this. It's absolutely a bigger deal than it seems at first and I'm so glad you're taking the time to talk about it.
RemoteID will definitely have an international impact: drones or any kind of aircraft are sold at a worldwide scale and there’s no way the manufacturers will create separate processes for the US market. That means yes, as a Canadian, I will get spied on by Mr and Ms everyone if I buy a drone in the next years.
Most hobby fliers are building their own drones and the remote id module is something you either attach or don't. Only camera drone manufacturers like DJI are going to have this built in.
Thanks for making this video! Definitely an overstep from the government.
this remote ID has been going on for a few years now. Im surprised that louis hasn't talked about it till now... but that being said, i'm glad he is! This is a big issue that people NEED to know about, better late than never!
Because its being mandated for every remote control aircraft greater than 250g starting September. Before it wasnt mandated.
@@nuddin99 Theh have been pushing remote ID, by name, for well over 4 years, my guy.
@@nuddin99 Remote ID compliance for manufacturers for any newly made aircraft was September 2022, actually. They pushed it forward to December 2022, but most manufacturers were ready for it and had already lit up RID on their drones. Anything made in the last 7 months already has it. September 2023 is for the final hold outs: any manufacturer-made aircraft prior to Dec 2022, and any DIY aircraft will need it come September. There's tons out there with RID on their off-the-shelf quads that have no idea they even have it enabled. It is a little late to fight this now, unfortunately.
@@JohnCuppi Thanks for the info
Thanks for supporting the drone community! It's great to see that RID is getting some mainstream attention.
These same points apply to destroying gun control arguments. Criminals don't care about following rules. Look how many Glock switches end up in California. Great video as usual
Thank you for bringing attention to the remote ID issue.
Let me guess...once this starts getting "real" we will probably start seeing subscription costs like some sort of HOA fee or pass.
Thank you so much for talking about this!!!
Every few weeks at my previous apartment complex, someone would fly a drone around the buildings late at night to look through all the windows -- I came face to face with it when I stepped out on my patio to see what the noise was. It was prolly just some tween looking for a glimpse of something he could have found MUCH more easily on the internet. This went on for literally two years tho -- and after the third or fourth time of it, I woulda loved to have had their GPS info.
But you know that if you shoot or otherwise attempt to do anything to hinder the flight of that drone, you would be committing a crime (I think it's a felony in fact)?
@@michaelshrader5139 Indeed! They have more rights than I do in that scenario. Which is why I would take that GPS info to the police and let them deal with it. And if they don't, I would escalate it to a state or national level.
Yes, it ticked me off THAT much.
And considering that the last time I saw it before I moved out of that complex, a half-naked couple in the next building were trying to hit it with what looked like a broom and a mop from their patio, I'd imagine a lot of the residents there would have supported such an endeavor.
I can think of much better ways to spy on people through their windows. Using a drone to do that is just a fancy but a very risky way to do it. I am very surprised that it went on for 2 years without costing the perpetrator 50 crashed drones.
@@aliberkozderya3112 It may have -- while I regularly heard it, I only saw the drone a few times, and it was never very clearly (even the night I was face-to-face with it on my patio -- I could tell it was a drone, but that's about it... it moved fast and it was too dark to see more than that) but the sound of it did change a lot. I know very little about drones, but I'd wager that change in volume and pitch meant it was either a new/different drone or it was a bit gimpy from a recent crash hehe!
@@olencone4005 interesting... hopefully it failed to capture anything "interesting". Personally, all of my windows are visible from the buildings in the surrounding area so, if I don't want to be seen I have to close my curtains anyways. A drone spying on me would be the least of my concerns.
Thanks for your response and have a good day
Had the inflatable swimming pool filled. My kids were splashing around naked. Nobody could see. Then I heard a humming noise. Emagine the thoughts going through my mind when I noticed the drone hovering above my property.
Nobody got injured. Nobody got killed. But I certainly wanted to know which neighbour flew above our house with a flycam.
Why would somone who are up to no good have remote id tho? doesn't matter if it's a law or not.
What is the point of laws that only makes the one who tries to follow them suffer?
This is why we need to STOP REELECTING ANYONE UNTIL WE GET OUT RIGHTS BACK, no "oh I like this one". They all need to be voted out until they stop infringing on citizens rights. Until we take our system back nothing will change and nothing will get better
It only takes one vote to elect a person. Even if absolutely nobody voted, a person could just elect themselves with their own vote. This is a losing strategy and all you're going to win with that is even worse politicians than the ones we have now - and *that* is saying something. What you are proposing is essentially putting duct tape over your own mouth in a time when you absolutely need to call for help or nobody will hear you.
@@Fanelinie are you stupid? I said vote the incumbents out not don't vote at all. Go back to school and learn to read
@@Fanelinie Head trauma survivor?
You realize there's more people out there to elect than the main ones on the ballot right?
Thank you. Love your presentations.
The FAA are quite happy to let Boing self-certify their flying death traps but not happy for you to fly your own equipment.
The FAA's quite happy to let a dude blow up a wildlife refuge and shower cancer-inducing dust on nearby settlements. They don't care about safety
@@BonanzakingBoeing is a defense contractor.
What in the entire heck made you post this nonsense?
Is this a failed attempt at subtle sophistry?🤨
@@Bonanzaking You totally missed my point. Which is to be expected.
On another note, I am very sadden that folks like you exist only to excuse corporate authoritarianism and neo-fuedalism.
Its as if humanity just cant wait to run back to old-school dictatorship.😒
Yes Louis!! Thank you so much for talking about this, great takes as always and it's a really important issue for us drone pilots