Had a P-III 700MHz around the early 2000s. It could run GTA Vice City, Maya, AutoCAD, Matlab and many more all without a GPU. Then GTA San Andreas came out and that was a no bueno.
@@FR4M3Sharma Ahhh, I forgot about Midtown Madness. Also, just remembered Microsoft Motocross Madness. Oh and all the Need 4 Speed games before NFS Underground.
Great chips, the Pentium 3 and Athlon platforms were a whole new era of performance especially combined with the rapid advancements in GPUs in the late 90s/early 00's.
@@Firezappygreed! I'm convinced that everything follows the laws of diminishing returns. the jump from piii to even the first core i whatever doesn't feel that much more different. (I mean yes, we've moved waaaay forward but the gap in technology jump between 486 to p3 in 10 years doesn't feel that different between the gap from p3 to the pcs of today.)
This was pretty cool to see. Surprisingly good performance! I clicked instantly because my first computer I ever built was a Pentium 3 with 512 MB RAM with a 3DFX Voodoo3. The GPU burned out, but I still have the motherboard and CPU today. No idea if they work at all anymore.
If they still work you have a good base for a retro gaming/emulation set up. If you don't care about the Linux stuff you can get something like a FX5200 really cheap, I used that before I got the ATI 9550. It worked just fine for N64 and Ps1, and most late 90s and early 2000 games worked.
I have a lot of respect for the Pentium III but have always been an AMD guy at heart and as good as the P3 Coppermine was, the AMD Athlon thunderbird was even better. The K7 Athlon core arch had a pretty good lead in instructions per cycle over the Pentium III (P6 Arch) especially in the FPU (floating point unit). It was so bad that the AMD Duron meant to compete with the Celeron was actually neck and neck with the Pentium III in nearly all benchmarks despite its only 64K of L2 Cache. I never had an Athlon back then but after coming across a Duron 850MHz and doing some research I was blown away and a fan whenever they had cpus that made sense to buy.
Interestingly with the og Xbox having a 733Mhz coppermine cpu and this machine originally also having a 733 Coppermine, I can say some N64 emulation was playable, and ps1 ran usually okay. I have not seen emulation on the Xbox, got me curious now.
Yeah the Xbox as beastly as it is for a console was more Celeron than Pentium. It had the 133MHz FSB the PIII usually hogged for itself but the L2 Cache was only 128KB but luckily kept its associavity at 8 Way which is more than the desktop Celeron got.
0:20 Is there a way to get cave story original? 8:13 1.7.10 was one of the best minecraft version ever made. That pc can pretty sure run 1.8.9. but those older versions are better than 1.20. W 1:20 UltraHLE works better on pentium 3 but im suprised that run almost at full speed with project64. You didnt mention a version.
Other then that tribute site that comes up I am not sure when it comes to getting the original cave story. I am fairly sure the Japanese download link takes you to original file though.(www.cavestory.org) And they also offer the translation patch, that is what I did. And I am using Project 64 1.6.
i swear there is not enough videos on youtube of doing stuff on pentium 3 also you should hex edit the halo exe file there is a thing called openspy its basicly gamespy online but its a community project to restore gamespy servers on these old games to use online on old hardware again
Do you know if this can boot from a SATA drive with a SATA harddrive controller? I have a Dell XPS 600R. I think it's basically the same PC, looks exactly the same. I was considering rebuilding it with a SSD.
I would figure the XPS 600 would be from the era of having sata ports on it's motherboard. If not, you can get pci sata controllers fairly cheap. I know Windows XP does not come with sata drivers, so I highly doubt Windows 98 does. Now if you are asking about installing Linux then yeah, sata should work fine. As far as Windows goes in your bios, some boards have an option to emulate IDE on the sata ports. Do you mean the Dell XPS T600R? Because that is a lot like my machine, and I think it would only have IDE. Installing Windows XP/98 can be hard to do on pci Sata controllers, because you would need a floppy with the sata driver. (I think) As far as booting from the drive I think the bios should see the drive as a SCSI device, so you select SCSI as your first boot option. I have personally never done this before, so this is just my best guess. But (supposedly) it should work. Remember, Windows XP and 98 doesn't support TRIM, I would read about how to get around this issue and not wear out your drive early. Reminder: I DO NOT know if these machines supports or sees SCSI devices in the bios. Another option to consider would be using something like an IDE to CF card adapter, a lot of people have success with retro machines doing things like this. Also the third option would be just use an old IDE drive, these older light operating systems are fairly snappy and load quick enough to enjoy some retro gaming.
@@Firezappy Yea it's the T600R. Has Windows 98 but the harddrive is shot with multiple errors. I have it laying around, it was my first ever PC from when I was younger. Trying to figure out a purpose for it but it seems I shouldn't even connect it to the internet since it has Windows 98.
I never had any trouble with full speed N64 emulation on my old 733Mhz Pentium 3 on Windows 98 SE back in the day (except if I tried to play DK64, which ran a bit slow). What emulator are you using, and what version?
Back when I first tried to do n64 emulation with the 733Mhz Pentium I also was using a FX 5200, wonder if it was gpu overhead or something causing the slowdown. Project 64, 1.6.
@@Firezappy I definitely would not have been using PJ64 1.6 as that wasn't out yet. I seem to remember running Nemu64, an older emulator. But I also tried something older. And I know I tried UltraHLE (but it has compatibility issues with many games). I don't think it's the GPU, because I just used onboard graphics. I did tend to play at 640x480 at the highest.
I ran it on Linux, it is possible to run Minecraft on Windows 98 though, but it was easier to just get it on Linux. Not a huge fan of using my 98 machine on the internet.
i have 2 technically pentium 3 systems that are crazy compared to regular on via apollo chipset with t on the end you can get a motherboard supporting 1,5gb of sd ram or 2 gb with very rare models , bot to mention sis chipset boards that could run pentium 3 with 2gb of ddr 266 memory (in sdr mode) and if you get a certain revision of tualatic core celeron 1300 you can cut one leg and change it into celeron 1700 or overclock pentium 3 s to 1600 mhz and the newest graphic card that could run on the cpu in native agp mode is radeon hd 4650 so you could push pentium 3 platform to it's limits i could give you part numbers for those magic pentium 3 cpu's and boards if you want stupid board like that, boards i have were all made by ecs for some reazon
That would be really cool to mess with. With that sort of power you could actually have a semi usable experience. Another fun board I would like to get is some of those dual socket 470 boards. If you got the numbers I can add it to the wishlist. Right now classes plus work has taken up most of my free time though at the moment
@@Firezappy youtube won't let me post links, both boards i was talking about are ecs, ramkiller is via apollo the ddr one is sis chipster P6VXAT P6S5AT ramkiller can oc but you have locked fsb to pci clock and it is best to oc high multiplier cpu with high fsb or pinmod celeron 1100a for fsb 133 and go up from there sis chipset has surprisingly many usb ports but can't oc at all you just stick 3 gb of ram, pinmod celeron 1200 or late 1300 to fsb 133 and chill and if you want crazy gpu radeon hd 3850 or hd 4670 are the fastest agp cards you can buy, only installing drivers sucks
upgrade her as high as she can go dude max her out as high as she can go to 1 ghz or 1.2 ghz whatever she can max out at get her to the max for whatever is the max for your motherboards mx performance I think a 1ghz p3 with 512 l2 cache would give you even more powa or if that was 1.2 ghz p2 that was better get that max her out push her to her limit old hardware like that can be maxed out for not a whole lot of cash due to how old and cheap the parts are now days
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The PINNACLE of technology.
Indeed
It was a fun time to be apart of.
Had a P-III 700MHz around the early 2000s. It could run GTA Vice City, Maya, AutoCAD, Matlab and many more all without a GPU.
Then GTA San Andreas came out and that was a no bueno.
Midtown Madness, Half Life Blue Shift , Duke Nukem Manhattan Project, GTA VC were the games I was playing on a PIII during 2004-06
@@FR4M3Sharma Ahhh, I forgot about Midtown Madness. Also, just remembered Microsoft Motocross Madness. Oh and all the Need 4 Speed games before NFS Underground.
That was a fun video, and I enjoyed bomberman fantasy race making an appearance. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, I enjoy those old kart racer games.
Great chips, the Pentium 3 and Athlon platforms were a whole new era of performance especially combined with the rapid advancements in GPUs in the late 90s/early 00's.
It is crazy how fast things were changing. My first machine had an i486, it is amazing how much faster this Pentium 3 is.
@@Firezappygreed! I'm convinced that everything follows the laws of diminishing returns. the jump from piii to even the first core i whatever doesn't feel that much more different. (I mean yes, we've moved waaaay forward but the gap in technology jump between 486 to p3 in 10 years doesn't feel that different between the gap from p3 to the pcs of today.)
This was pretty cool to see. Surprisingly good performance! I clicked instantly because my first computer I ever built was a Pentium 3 with 512 MB RAM with a 3DFX Voodoo3. The GPU burned out, but I still have the motherboard and CPU today. No idea if they work at all anymore.
If they still work you have a good base for a retro gaming/emulation set up. If you don't care about the Linux stuff you can get something like a FX5200 really cheap, I used that before I got the ATI 9550. It worked just fine for N64 and Ps1, and most late 90s and early 2000 games worked.
I heard that the p3 was used for alot of cpus that came after it because its architecture was so efficient even better than the p4.
I have a lot of respect for the Pentium III but have always been an AMD guy at heart and as good as the P3 Coppermine was, the AMD Athlon thunderbird was even better. The K7 Athlon core arch had a pretty good lead in instructions per cycle over the Pentium III (P6 Arch) especially in the FPU (floating point unit). It was so bad that the AMD Duron meant to compete with the Celeron was actually neck and neck with the Pentium III in nearly all benchmarks despite its only 64K of L2 Cache. I never had an Athlon back then but after coming across a Duron 850MHz and doing some research I was blown away and a fan whenever they had cpus that made sense to buy.
How about AMD sempron? @@Protoking
Pentium III was used in the Pentium M, which eventually became the Core Duo mobile chips, and then Core 2 onwards.
This is the reason the underlying architecture of the Core2 series was based on this.
Cool idea for a video, but, in future, it would be good if you could get the screen to be in better focus.
Intel scored a Home Run with PIII then shidded on the base with P4.
I want to own a slowed down pentium III for C coding.
Why are Emulators on the OG Xbox not up to snuff? 😢😢
Interestingly with the og Xbox having a 733Mhz coppermine cpu and this machine originally also having a 733 Coppermine, I can say some N64 emulation was playable, and ps1 ran usually okay. I have not seen emulation on the Xbox, got me curious now.
@@Firezappy Please do, There's both a CPU upgrade and a double Ram upgrade mod for it.
Yeah the Xbox as beastly as it is for a console was more Celeron than Pentium. It had the 133MHz FSB the PIII usually hogged for itself but the L2 Cache was only 128KB but luckily kept its associavity at 8 Way which is more than the desktop Celeron got.
0:20 Is there a way to get cave story original?
8:13 1.7.10 was one of the best minecraft version ever made. That pc can pretty sure run 1.8.9. but those older versions are better than 1.20. W
1:20 UltraHLE works better on pentium 3 but im suprised that run almost at full speed with project64. You didnt mention a version.
Other then that tribute site that comes up I am not sure when it comes to getting the original cave story. I am fairly sure the Japanese download link takes you to original file though.(www.cavestory.org) And they also offer the translation patch, that is what I did. And I am using Project 64 1.6.
Have the same tower, still with the 733MHz PIII, with a rivaTNT2, it "can" run half life 2.
i swear there is not enough videos on youtube of doing stuff on pentium 3 also you should hex edit the halo exe file there is a thing called openspy its basicly gamespy online but its a community project to restore gamespy servers on these old games to use online on old hardware again
Saw Linux in the title and clicked immediately
Do you know if this can boot from a SATA drive with a SATA harddrive controller? I have a Dell XPS 600R. I think it's basically the same PC, looks exactly the same. I was considering rebuilding it with a SSD.
I would figure the XPS 600 would be from the era of having sata ports on it's motherboard. If not, you can get pci sata controllers fairly cheap. I know Windows XP does not come with sata drivers, so I highly doubt Windows 98 does. Now if you are asking about installing Linux then yeah, sata should work fine. As far as Windows goes in your bios, some boards have an option to emulate IDE on the sata ports.
Do you mean the Dell XPS T600R? Because that is a lot like my machine, and I think it would only have IDE. Installing Windows XP/98 can be hard to do on pci Sata controllers, because you would need a floppy with the sata driver. (I think) As far as booting from the drive I think the bios should see the drive as a SCSI device, so you select SCSI as your first boot option. I have personally never done this before, so this is just my best guess. But (supposedly) it should work. Remember, Windows XP and 98 doesn't support TRIM, I would read about how to get around this issue and not wear out your drive early.
Reminder: I DO NOT know if these machines supports or sees SCSI devices in the bios. Another option to consider would be using something like an IDE to CF card adapter, a lot of people have success with retro machines doing things like this. Also the third option would be just use an old IDE drive, these older light operating systems are fairly snappy and load quick enough to enjoy some retro gaming.
@@Firezappy Yea it's the T600R. Has Windows 98 but the harddrive is shot with multiple errors. I have it laying around, it was my first ever PC from when I was younger. Trying to figure out a purpose for it but it seems I shouldn't even connect it to the internet since it has Windows 98.
If you can get a 1.4 GHz Tualatin Pentium III running it can get even better. I was using one of those till about 2012
Playing on P3 866mhz with 384mb ram, ATI 9200 128mb and it runs like dogshit 😭
I never had any trouble with full speed N64 emulation on my old 733Mhz Pentium 3 on Windows 98 SE back in the day (except if I tried to play DK64, which ran a bit slow). What emulator are you using, and what version?
Back when I first tried to do n64 emulation with the 733Mhz Pentium I also was using a FX 5200, wonder if it was gpu overhead or something causing the slowdown. Project 64, 1.6.
@@Firezappy I definitely would not have been using PJ64 1.6 as that wasn't out yet. I seem to remember running Nemu64, an older emulator. But I also tried something older. And I know I tried UltraHLE (but it has compatibility issues with many games).
I don't think it's the GPU, because I just used onboard graphics. I did tend to play at 640x480 at the highest.
p2 400 do really struggle running pj64
Yeah, you probably want to use UltraHLE or other older N64 emulators on something that slow.
so you assembled a retro PC to emulate console games ? are you alright ?
Did you run minecraft on linux or on windows?
I ran it on Linux, it is possible to run Minecraft on Windows 98 though, but it was easier to just get it on Linux. Not a huge fan of using my 98 machine on the internet.
Cool! The Pentium III were grest CPUs
i have 2 technically pentium 3 systems that are crazy compared to regular
on via apollo chipset with t on the end you can get a motherboard supporting 1,5gb of sd ram or 2 gb with very rare models , bot to mention sis chipset boards that could run pentium 3 with 2gb of ddr 266 memory (in sdr mode) and if you get a certain revision of tualatic core celeron 1300 you can cut one leg and change it into celeron 1700
or overclock pentium 3 s to 1600 mhz
and the newest graphic card that could run on the cpu in native agp mode is radeon hd 4650 so you could push pentium 3 platform to it's limits
i could give you part numbers for those magic pentium 3 cpu's and boards if you want stupid board like that, boards i have were all made by ecs for some reazon
That would be really cool to mess with. With that sort of power you could actually have a semi usable experience. Another fun board I would like to get is some of those dual socket 470 boards. If you got the numbers I can add it to the wishlist. Right now classes plus work has taken up most of my free time though at the moment
@@Firezappy youtube won't let me post links, both boards i was talking about are ecs, ramkiller is via apollo the ddr one is sis chipster
P6VXAT P6S5AT
ramkiller can oc but you have locked fsb to pci clock and it is best to oc high multiplier cpu with high fsb or pinmod celeron 1100a for fsb 133 and go up from there
sis chipset has surprisingly many usb ports but can't oc at all you just stick 3 gb of ram, pinmod celeron 1200 or late 1300 to fsb 133 and chill
and if you want crazy gpu radeon hd 3850 or hd 4670 are the fastest agp cards you can buy, only installing drivers sucks
upgrade her as high as she can go dude max her out as high as she can go to 1 ghz or 1.2 ghz whatever she can max out at get her to the max for whatever is the max for your motherboards mx performance I think a 1ghz p3 with 512 l2 cache would give you even more powa or if that was 1.2 ghz p2 that was better get that max her out push her to her limit old hardware like that can be maxed out for not a whole lot of cash due to how old and cheap the parts are now days
cool vid
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