I think the toss is the hardest thing to get right on your serve. I've tried many techniques and struggled much. I think the issue is that pros can spend hours everyday working on it but rec players only have 1 or 2 hours practices per week. I finally figured out that for myself, I need to toss more than 45 degrees so that the ball ends up over my shoulder. I now have a consistent toss that I don't even think about. It took 2 years of searching. Thanks.
you get right down to business and don’t waste a lot of time, that is good! I have to keep my tennis learning very simple ( I am new to tennis and I am a senior citizen), my thoughts are to keep my arm straight on the toss and toss inside the court.
I have been using mini cones to develop accuracy and consistency. You can get the mini cones at the dollar tree stores they have two sizes. Great video my friend.
Awesome and detailed breakdown of the mechanics involved, now I can finally adjust and train the minutiae of serving, step by step. Super content! Thanks!
Perfect! Exactly the video i needed as i am currently struggling with my toss. Very well explained and i love the passion you bring to the videos. Thank you!
At 46yoa and 32 years of tennis, my toss can still be a mystery. I've never seen this explained in such detail with the x,y, and z axis. I love it. Sadly I need knee and shoulder surgery now but if you're still around in a couple years Grant, I'd pay whatever it takes for a private lesson with you. This video was genius. Do you ever do private lessons with video analysis? I'd love to be able to film my shots and get such an objective explanation on why the ball lands in or out.
Yes for privates email me at support@grantvanderhayden.com For virtual coaching you can learn about my membership here: www.grantvanderhayden.com/ttp-yt
@@GrantVanderHayden Well that's interesting to toss inside the court at 45, because my former coach instructed me to toss the ball straight up the netpost instead at 90 degrees. So at this angle I was getting some blast power with it but the serve felt limited and felt like the racquet head wasn't coming inside of the ball very much but was coming instead all down on top of the ball. But not inside of the ball when pronating with the racquet edge. I think the pronation has to be more inside of the ball.
Thanks for using a 3D coordinate system to explain the toss!! I have always had an issue with the terminology tennis coaches/pros use with describing where to toss the ball, for example, toss it to "2 o'clock" when serving. What, where's that?! I'll have to check your other videos to see how you describe grips ... I think the whole Western, Continental, Eastern descriptions are incredibly confusing too, LOL.
0:00 Sounds like Grant saying "What is up world class athlete." 0:53 nails a big serve. 6:13 Sounds like "I whirl cass heavy?" 8:26 "I roll cass heathy?" 11:29 "are werl class athetes?"
I rewinded it so many times but I kept hearing him say “I’m a world class athlete” like it’s some mantra he chants or a subliminal message for his audience.
Thank you fort addressing x, y and z access. That's not explained very well in most instructional videos by others. They also say make contact inside the court as far as possible but what's realistic and what is anatomically impossible? Thanks again. I can't wait to go through your other videos now.
@@paddlepower888😂😂😂😂 his flat bomb gets about 2 feet off the ground max and barely reaches the fence. It isn’t even a big serve by 4.0 standards. Very low-powered amateur. His mechanics aren’t correct either which is robbing him of power. “World class” 😂😂 talk about trying to sell what the video isn’t showing.
@@paddlepower888I like how he claims his arm is “abducted”!!! 😂😂😂 then shows an actual serve where the arm is back and.. well I guess in his bad anatomy world “adducted” (this is not actual shoulder abduction/addiction). What he claims he’s doing ain’t what he did… and it’s not what you want to do either…. Sad… 😂
@@datacipher A friend remarked that calling his viewers “World Class Athletes” is a Tony Robbins seminar approved use of catch phrases to hook his audience. His mumbling was unintelligible in multiple instances after the first “What is up, world class athletes” shout before I turned on captions. Poor guy likely needs help.
Also, at the point of hitting the ball, is the right arm not fully vertical? Is it slightly tilted to the right to leave space for the racket pronation? Otherwise the ball toss has to be to the left and behind your foot and shoulder? Thank you
what would you advise in terms of serve stance? (adopting the older , classical serve stance (just bend legs) or the new one (drag the back foot forward)
Thank you, Grant. Do you have any tips or hacks for practising the toss? Like throwing it into a basketball hoop? Or setting a target in a branch of a tree? I struggle with the 3-D nature of the target. Thank you, mate!
Thank you very much for all this training! I´ve learned a lot from all your videos. However like you said i´m 6,1 and tried to toss the ball a feet into the field but ever since i do that i consitently hit the tennisnet band. Do you perhaps have some tips to improve on this error? Besides this my toss works perfectly and i've been able to be a lot more consitent with my serves!
What CAN'T this woman do? She's so incredible, there's nothing she can't do it seems. I admire the heck out of her. She's a better role model than almost any woman on earth. Vive le Reine!!! B
@grant vanderhayden Would it be possible to make a video dedicated to the elbow and forearm movement all great serves use. What I mean by this is, how to get in the optimum biomechanical position with the racket/hitting arm from start into trophy position. I think there is alot of misconception and confusion. For example, as a righty, the right elbow moves back and away from the body then you raise the racket inching closer to trophy position. When would you commence moving the elbow now to the right, is it the moment you are about to enter your trophy position? Not sure if I am making sense or not. Should shoulder be internally rotated during takeback, should upper arm and forearm angle be reducing or remain at 90 degrees leading up to trophy position? Do I actively move the racket using my arm to cause the racket drop or do I relax the hand and let gravity instead drop the racket, and so on.
The problem is typical club pros don't know any of this. Aa a result, most can't serve. They will take your money however you learn nothing. I see folks taking lessons, and a year later, they make the same mistakes. Too many lazy, uninformed club pros. How do we fix this?
Most players 99% of them, wouldn’t understand what you’re talking about or trying to convey. It’s easy for you to say do this and that because you came up with it … it’s your technique. There are at least 8-10 elements that one must master for a proper and powerful serve. And each of those elements have sub-elements to consider . E.g. how to properly hold the ball, which fingers do you hold it, how is it released, when is it released, where is your weight when it’s released, is it released at 1 o’clock . And this is just in tossing the ball.
great but you forgot one thing ! feet position are dictated by the dominant eye , feet, hips, shoulder position is different if you are left or right yey dominant !!!
The toss is Easy. Lock your elbow. Roll the top of your shoulder with your palm toward the sky. The toss should be to your RIGHT not directly in front of you. Control the toss by pressing the bulb of your thumb against the ball and opening rather than flipping or rolling. It gives you toss consistency. Both arms should NOT go up at the same time. The side of your lead foot should be facing the middle of the box. Watch the alignment of Novak it is perfect every time. The serve is just a throwing motion. Like in baseball You are throwing. The grip is TIGHT and the wrist is loose. You’re welcome.
Lots of your explanations are not entirely correct. Yes you throw the bal into the field (Z axis), but you do that because you need to hit a downward angle, and therefore can hit harder. Not because your body can generate more power leaning forward :) A taller player has to hit more downward angle, thus more Z-axis :) You can feel this from hitting serves from the service line or the back of the court. You use you a somewhat different axis for different types of spin serves. However if you are really skilled, you can hit all serves from the same toss.
i love these videos this guy is like a tv salesman for a non stick frying pan
Yea but the frying pans are trash my friend. 😅
lol
He fluidly made this video !
I think the toss is the hardest thing to get right on your serve. I've tried many techniques and struggled much. I think the issue is that pros can spend hours everyday working on it but rec players only have 1 or 2 hours practices per week. I finally figured out that for myself, I need to toss more than 45 degrees so that the ball ends up over my shoulder. I now have a consistent toss that I don't even think about. It took 2 years of searching. Thanks.
Dude, this was the best video you've done to date. Congrats and thank you!
you get right down to business and don’t waste a lot of time, that is good! I have to keep my tennis learning very simple ( I am new to tennis and I am a senior citizen), my thoughts are to keep my arm straight on the toss and toss inside the court.
Grant - you explain everything is such a great way. I can’t wait to get to the court this evening and work on this. Thank you.
I am addicted to your channel! I’m so glad I found you! 🎉
Please do a squash shot video ❤
I have been using mini cones to develop accuracy and consistency. You can get the mini cones at the dollar tree stores they have two sizes. Great video my friend.
Best video I've seen in years about the toss. Thank you
This was well present, produced and explained. Good job. I don't play tennis much anymore but Bing sent me here for the Rewards program.
Awesome and detailed breakdown of the mechanics involved, now I can finally adjust and train the minutiae of serving, step by step. Super content! Thanks!
Like your use of x, y, z axes. Makes it much easier to talk about components of the toss.
Great coaching and tips. Watched last night and all my serves were in today.
Great video, well explained to implement!
so helpful, great work
Great serving tip.
Grant, superb tuition with very descriptive narrative, thank you for this. G
Perfect! Exactly the video i needed as i am currently struggling with my toss. Very well explained and i love the passion you bring to the videos. Thank you!
At 46yoa and 32 years of tennis, my toss can still be a mystery. I've never seen this explained in such detail with the x,y, and z axis. I love it. Sadly I need knee and shoulder surgery now but if you're still around in a couple years Grant, I'd pay whatever it takes for a private lesson with you. This video was genius. Do you ever do private lessons with video analysis? I'd love to be able to film my shots and get such an objective explanation on why the ball lands in or out.
Yes for privates email me at support@grantvanderhayden.com
For virtual coaching you can learn about my membership here: www.grantvanderhayden.com/ttp-yt
@@GrantVanderHayden where do you live and train?
@@GrantVanderHayden Well that's interesting to toss inside the court at 45, because my former coach instructed me to toss the ball straight up the netpost instead at 90 degrees. So at this angle I was getting some blast power with it but the serve felt limited and felt like the racquet head wasn't coming inside of the ball very much but was coming instead all down on top of the ball. But not inside of the ball when pronating with the racquet edge.
I think the pronation has to be more inside of the ball.
You explained it so perfectly 👍🤗
Let’s go! this is amazing‼️ Grant at it again
Love this guy's enthusiasm
Great stuff as always
Outstanding teaching of the ball toss! Thank you!
great coaching skill
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Just what I needed. Thanks
Excellent instruction thank you!
Thanks for using a 3D coordinate system to explain the toss!! I have always had an issue with the terminology tennis coaches/pros use with describing where to toss the ball, for example, toss it to "2 o'clock" when serving. What, where's that?! I'll have to check your other videos to see how you describe grips ... I think the whole Western, Continental, Eastern descriptions are incredibly confusing too, LOL.
Thank You man for such outstanding analysis and application! Wow! Great stuff!
Is that the real sound of the impact at the ball?
So cool...
Boom! 💯
0:00 Sounds like Grant saying "What is up world class athlete." 0:53 nails a big serve. 6:13 Sounds like "I whirl cass heavy?" 8:26 "I roll cass heathy?" 11:29 "are werl class athetes?"
he is literaly trying to suck your soul out
I rewinded it so many times but I kept hearing him say “I’m a world class athlete” like it’s some mantra he chants or a subliminal message for his audience.
Thank you fort addressing x, y and z access. That's not explained very well in most instructional videos by others. They also say make contact inside the court as far as possible but what's realistic and what is anatomically impossible? Thanks again. I can't wait to go through your other videos now.
So good... Not easy to shoot 1 continuous video while nailing every serve in, Grant! :)
🙂 Indeed, only one at 11:25 lands long. But still crushing the balls!
@@paddlepower888😂😂😂😂 his flat bomb gets about 2 feet off the ground max and barely reaches the fence. It isn’t even a big serve by 4.0 standards. Very low-powered amateur. His mechanics aren’t correct either which is robbing him of power. “World class” 😂😂 talk about trying to sell what the video isn’t showing.
@@paddlepower888I like how he claims his arm is “abducted”!!! 😂😂😂 then shows an actual serve where the arm is back and.. well I guess in his bad anatomy world “adducted” (this is not actual shoulder abduction/addiction). What he claims he’s doing ain’t what he did… and it’s not what you want to do either…. Sad… 😂
@@datacipher A friend remarked that calling his viewers “World Class Athletes” is a Tony Robbins seminar approved use of catch phrases to hook his audience. His mumbling was unintelligible in multiple instances after the first “What is up, world class athletes” shout before I turned on captions. Poor guy likely needs help.
Great video man. Well explained even though I can’t do it properly for now😢
Phenomenal. Thanks much via Dennis 4 Tennis. Cheers
Also, at the point of hitting the ball, is the right arm not fully vertical? Is it slightly tilted to the right to leave space for the racket pronation?
Otherwise the ball toss has to be to the left and behind your foot and shoulder?
Thank you
Thank you 👏👏👏
Ur aura always bring on 🔥🔥
Good stuff bro
Awesome tips and instruction. Thanks Grant👍
Good stuff. Z axis is what I struggle with.
I loved the pressure is a privalage
Phenomenal stuff
Thankyou so much ,, it’s amazing video
what would you advise in terms of serve stance? (adopting the older , classical serve stance (just bend legs) or the new one (drag the back foot forward)
wondeful style!! I feel the energy
Very informative and conveniently helpful to all manner of serving techniques. Thank you Sir , God Bless You
When hitting the ball like this, do you drive the ball up or downward?
great content
Great vid
Gracias !!
Thank you, Grant. Do you have any tips or hacks for practising the toss? Like throwing it into a basketball hoop? Or setting a target in a branch of a tree? I struggle with the 3-D nature of the target. Thank you, mate!
Thank you very much for all this training! I´ve learned a lot from all your videos. However like you said i´m 6,1 and tried to toss the ball a feet into the field but ever since i do that i consitently hit the tennisnet band. Do you perhaps have some tips to improve on this error? Besides this my toss works perfectly and i've been able to be a lot more consitent with my serves!
Unthankyou you!
Thanks Grant! Clearly explained all relevant steps! I will do my utmost best to interprete and pratice your lessons.:-)
Something about getting called "World class athlete" is making me wanna renegotiate all the sponsors contracts I don't have🤔😆
What CAN'T this woman do? She's so incredible, there's nothing she can't do it seems. I admire the heck out of her. She's a better role model than almost any woman on earth. Vive le Reine!!!
B
As a teaching pro always have check points. Work on reps, shadow swings swings. Watch the pros.
7:00 Isner has a foot fault! :)
If you are 5 foot 3-4 so 4-6 inches inside the line?
Ups the serve starts with the right grip
Sales pitch?
I'm not a world.class.athelete, but enjoyed the video!
Great videos. Question, where I should toss if I am looking to get the T ? Some suggestions?
@grant vanderhayden Would it be possible to make a video dedicated to the elbow and forearm movement all great serves use. What I mean by this is, how to get in the optimum biomechanical position with the racket/hitting arm from start into trophy position. I think there is alot of misconception and confusion. For example, as a righty, the right elbow moves back and away from the body then you raise the racket inching closer to trophy position. When would you commence moving the elbow now to the right, is it the moment you are about to enter your trophy position? Not sure if I am making sense or not. Should shoulder be internally rotated during takeback, should upper arm and forearm angle be reducing or remain at 90 degrees leading up to trophy position? Do I actively move the racket using my arm to cause the racket drop or do I relax the hand and let gravity instead drop the racket, and so on.
The problem is typical club pros don't know any of this. Aa a result, most can't serve. They will take your money however you learn nothing. I see folks taking lessons, and a year later, they make the same mistakes. Too many lazy, uninformed club pros. How do we fix this?
Working on something big... stay tuned🥸
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Most players 99% of them, wouldn’t understand what you’re talking about or trying to convey. It’s easy for you to say do this and that because you came up with it … it’s your technique. There are at least 8-10 elements that one must master for a proper and powerful serve. And each of those elements have sub-elements to consider . E.g. how to properly hold the ball, which fingers do you hold it, how is it released, when is it released, where is your weight when it’s released, is it released at 1 o’clock . And this is just in tossing the ball.
I'm 4'11, got any advice?
Top spin😅
it's over
Omfg I need this bad
great but you forgot one thing ! feet position are dictated by the dominant eye , feet, hips, shoulder position is different if you are left or right yey dominant !!!
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One handed backhand!!!!??? PLEASE
"just like that"
Bruh, are you on Coke? Tranquillo. 😂
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IMO this guy doesn't toss the ball far enough into the court on the flat serve.
where is you?
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The toss is Easy. Lock your elbow. Roll the top of your shoulder with your palm toward the sky. The toss should be to your RIGHT not directly in front of you. Control the toss by pressing the bulb of your thumb against the ball and opening rather than flipping or rolling. It gives you toss consistency. Both arms should NOT go up at the same time. The side of your lead foot should be facing the middle of the box. Watch the alignment of Novak it is perfect every time. The serve is just a throwing motion. Like in baseball You are throwing. The grip is TIGHT and the wrist is loose.
You’re welcome.
And drink lots of coffee.
انا لااحب اليهودين😢 انا احب الله عليه وسلم 😊❤
"World class loser"
Dude! Breathe ffs lol
Lots of your explanations are not entirely correct. Yes you throw the bal into the field (Z axis), but you do that because you need to hit a downward angle, and therefore can hit harder. Not because your body can generate more power leaning forward :) A taller player has to hit more downward angle, thus more Z-axis :) You can feel this from hitting serves from the service line or the back of the court.
You use you a somewhat different axis for different types of spin serves. However if you are really skilled, you can hit all serves from the same toss.
Demasiado rollo de este gringo.... mi amigo se volvió loco escuchandolo y juega peor que antes de escucharlo