I’m very grateful that a clear thinking person has highlighted the important issues in this complex discussion. Thank you Maya Forstater for your carefully considered opinions on these often fraught points.
I do not believe that birth certifcates should be changed UNLESS the person was misgendered due to incorrect observations at birth. I think that gender recognition should be MtF or FtM indication how the person lives rather than allowing them to "change" sex.
Just as religion should have no influence over the objective boundaries of women, men, children, and same-sex attracted people in a secular society, neither should quasi-religious ideologies or psychological 'distresses' such as gender woo. There's little more toxic to society, young people, vulnerable people, and our rights, than an ideological movement and social contagion that tries to convince you that you, your sex, your body, your biology, your sexual orientation, your boundaries, etc. don't exist in objective reality but that only it and its followers and their subjective beliefs, feelings, ideation, and self-perception do. When the authority (read: the adults in the room) has absconded and allowed the patients to run the asylum, that's precisely what you get.
If gender identity doesn’t matter In R cases in England and I’m guessing the rest of the U.K the how did a Trans woman R**post get sent to a woman’s prison in Scotland? Didn’t whoever sentenced this person read the law? I love that everyone clapped on the issue of changing rooms. A room full of people with common sense and compassion towards biological women.
The 2010 Equality Act is not applicable in NI. Is there anyone out there who can advise what we use to ensure our “belief” in two sexes is protected? (Along with all the other protections of course)
@@lornocford6482Be aware that religious exemptions do not apply to any type of Pagan or Christian denomination, and Judaism, Hinduism, and Buddhism won't work, either. Your best bet would be to convert to Islam for possible protection 👍🏿☪️
that English law tacitly asserts that a woman cannot commit rape against a man is somewhat concerning even for those who acknowledge sexual dimorphism... no provision for forceful envelopement or sex by coercion? is England actually professing that it's women don't commit these crimes? that doesn't sound like equality, it sounds like benevolent sexism
No. Other forms of sexual assault exist and can attract longer sentences than rape. Rape, however, is a very specific crime that can only be committed by a man. There were feminist arguments against this framing. Germaine Greer commented that it was much worse to get a broken bottle shoved in your vagina than to forced to suck a dick, but that's how things were decided in England. It does not mean other crimes don't exist.
Any act where a man or woman is forced against their will to engage in a sexual act is RAPE. That should apply to biological woman as well if they commit such a henous act.
There are other laws that deal with the range of SA that occur, but r pe can only be committed by a man in law. Most of them get away with it as the legal system was created by men. The system is skewed against women. Misjustuce by Helena Kennedy is worth a read if you wish to understand more clearly.
Forceful envelopement is rape, when female teachers go after their male students that's rape... again, if you genuinely believe that a woman is not capable of the same level of depravity as a man, you aren't chivalrous, you're just a benevolent sexist
@@turdferguson9356you need to have a read of the laws around this. Physical differences mean different laws apply, but have no concerns. Where women commit crimes, they are usually punished far more harshly than men. The belief that women have less punishment stems from the fact that the crimes women commit don't tend to be as extreme or violent as those committed by men.
Its ridiculous that Sex Matters is actually having to state the bleeding obvious with regard to the law and what it actually says.
And what it implies
Excellent Maya
Well said Maya. Sounds like common sense.
The safety of women and girls should trump the feelings of any other group.
I’m very grateful that a clear thinking person has highlighted the important issues in this complex discussion. Thank you Maya Forstater for your carefully considered opinions on these often fraught points.
I do not believe that birth certifcates should be changed UNLESS the person was misgendered due to incorrect observations at birth. I think that gender recognition should be MtF or FtM indication how the person lives rather than allowing them to "change" sex.
Just as religion should have no influence over the objective boundaries of women, men, children, and same-sex attracted people in a secular society, neither should quasi-religious ideologies or psychological 'distresses' such as gender woo. There's little more toxic to society, young people, vulnerable people, and our rights, than an ideological movement and social contagion that tries to convince you that you, your sex, your body, your biology, your sexual orientation, your boundaries, etc. don't exist in objective reality but that only it and its followers and their subjective beliefs, feelings, ideation, and self-perception do.
When the authority (read: the adults in the room) has absconded and allowed the patients to run the asylum, that's precisely what you get.
Well said.
Yes very well said. The genderists don’t have a leg to stand on when you put it that way.
Religion should have no influence ?
That should also include feminist " theory"
"...there's no hierarchy of protected characteristics..."
😹😹😹
Repeal the GRA NOW.
Ok Terfy
Ok man@@non_ideological_transexual7414
@@OohTarquinOof. Don't assume their gender, bigot. It's 2024, not 1950. Get with the times, transphobe. 🤦🏿♂️
Is there a way to get in touch with sex matters regarding how the equality act is being applied in healthcare settings please?
Go to their website.
If gender identity doesn’t matter In R cases in England and I’m guessing the rest of the U.K the how did a Trans woman R**post get sent to a woman’s prison in Scotland? Didn’t whoever sentenced this person read the law?
I love that everyone clapped on the issue of changing rooms. A room full of people with common sense and compassion towards biological women.
How can I donate?
Hi, you can donate here: sex-matters.org/take-action/donate/
We appreciate the support 🙏
@@sexmattersorgis there anything we can do - is there a petition? Should we write to our local MP or the prime minister?
It’s gonna get worse before it gets worse
Basically the people making the decisions didn't question if this act impacted womens rights. Which it clearly does.
Well done Maya and Sex Matters,
The 2010 Equality Act is not applicable in NI. Is there anyone out there who can advise what we use to ensure our “belief” in two sexes is protected? (Along with all the other protections of course)
I've seen a couple of things where someone used their religious beliefs. See if that's protected in NI.
@@lornocford6482Be aware that religious exemptions do not apply to any type of Pagan or Christian denomination, and Judaism, Hinduism, and Buddhism won't work, either. Your best bet would be to convert to Islam for possible protection 👍🏿☪️
thanks
"Treat a man like a woman"?. I think we all be treated like humans.
Wdn't that be enough?
that English law tacitly asserts that a woman cannot commit rape against a man is somewhat concerning even for those who acknowledge sexual dimorphism... no provision for forceful envelopement or sex by coercion? is England actually professing that it's women don't commit these crimes? that doesn't sound like equality, it sounds like benevolent sexism
No. Other forms of sexual assault exist and can attract longer sentences than rape. Rape, however, is a very specific crime that can only be committed by a man. There were feminist arguments against this framing. Germaine Greer commented that it was much worse to get a broken bottle shoved in your vagina than to forced to suck a dick, but that's how things were decided in England. It does not mean other crimes don't exist.
Any act where a man or woman is forced against their will to engage in a sexual act is RAPE. That should apply to biological woman as well if they commit such a henous act.
There are other laws that deal with the range of SA that occur, but r pe can only be committed by a man in law. Most of them get away with it as the legal system was created by men. The system is skewed against women. Misjustuce by Helena Kennedy is worth a read if you wish to understand more clearly.
Forceful envelopement is rape, when female teachers go after their male students that's rape... again, if you genuinely believe that a woman is not capable of the same level of depravity as a man, you aren't chivalrous, you're just a benevolent sexist
@@turdferguson9356you need to have a read of the laws around this. Physical differences mean different laws apply, but have no concerns. Where women commit crimes, they are usually punished far more harshly than men. The belief that women have less punishment stems from the fact that the crimes women commit don't tend to be as extreme or violent as those committed by men.