The reason Dafoe's character gave for not killing a sea bird is that they carry the souls of sailors lost at sea. The one seagull that tormented Pattinson's character (and he eventually killed) had one eye -- just like Dafoe's previous partner that went mad and died.
@@Tearyatobitz this is an old comment, but I just finished watching and currently processing what I've seen but I'd just like to add that in the Bible the punishment for lusting after a woman is plucking an eye out. Sorry for my run on, but I ended this film right at the peak of my current trip on shrooms and now I must find the answer lol
Robert Pattinson nailed his performance while Willem Dafoe played one of the creepiest characters in film history. He even starts to manipulate Pattinson into thinking they have been on the island, for a week, a month, or a year.
in another video about the film they mentioned Dafoe actually stayed on the island after a days filming to really get into the character. im not surprised he had cast and crew shook
I certainly noticed the parallels with the myth of Prometheus, but I also interpreted the film as a Lovecraftian horror with the Lighthouse being an eldritch entity.
@@lemonyskull4813The northman, heavy with slavic and nordic mythology, and the witch, heavy with native american and witchcraft imagery. Both directed by the same director, Robert Eggers, and are all done in similar creepy and surreal fashion
I don't know about everyone else, but Robert Patterson is a good actor imo. People didn't like him because of Twilight, but after that, he's been doing alright as an actor.
If you watch his interviews during the Twilight time, you can see how much he made fun of it. He was always beyond that material, but it served as a good stepping stone for him. So it’s a bit conflicting for him to make fun of something that made him, but boy is it funny and true.
that is the problem, he lost credibility as a actor by doing that movie, he was lucky he could make other good movies, other actors in similar positions end their careers there, same for kristen stewart, she had i harder but she has done some great movies
@@arch1107 bull crap twilight was a sensation and it's cool to make fun of it now because every does it, but it's a movie that will stand the test of time, you can always go back to it and watch after many years
@@Jykobe491 i went with a friend expecting to see a cool vampires movie, instead of that we got a absurd piece of shit, we almost got out of the movie theater before it ended, the story is a complete and massive turd, is horrendous the sequels, are as bad or worse
I am born and raised in Portland , Maine. This is 100% accurate if anyone lies and says they dont like lobster . We deliver a much same curse, if only in our heads.
@@sideskroll jesus, mary and joseph... it's just a large, tasty water scorpion... If you're going that far, do me a favor and rip out your own canine teeth, you're biologically an herbivore.
@@jakehawkinsmusic ??... So because you're unaware (or whats even worse, dont care) that lobsters actually have nervous systems similar to ours, meaning they feel the same as you would. I'm an "herbivore"?... What made you arrive at such an idiotic conclusion my friend? Also, never said anything against consuming meat, or animal products. But theres a huge difference between consuming something DEAD and boiling it alive. If you don't get why or how thats fucked up, you have some issues ..
Very true. I recently move back to my home country and notice a tremendous shift in my mental state. There was a time when I descended into madness because of isolation/burden/stress. Now Im with my family and whole. But I do miss the time when I almost lost my mind. The feeling is visceral just like how the movie depicted. There's something to it, I wouldn't want to return to that state but it was something.
You have to ignore a lot of stuff though. Like, why is he lying half-dead and naked at the cost with one lost eye and seagulls eating his insides after he fell down the stairs clothed. Why is he literally climbing the lighthouse instead of walking the stairs? Why is his face normal when he starts the ascend but covered in blood or black paint when he arrives at the top? How is the light rotating, stopping and opening itself on its own? etc etc
he didn't "not lend a hand" we clearly saw him stab the man with the log hook in the flashes of his memory. He is an unrepentant murderer, it's kind of an important detail.
easily can be a vision of his own guilt in the form of "by not saving him i murdered him". you gotta take on the characters are insane before and after arrival, the only thing you can trust is nothing is trustworthy and in a weird way every possible way of reading the story is right and wrong, kinda schrodingers cat style
I personally subscribe to the theory that Wake and Winslowe are the same person (with Winslowe being the dominant personality), and that the island is a literal purgatory where Winslowe must repent for his past sins (which he fails at entirely).
yeah the insane laughter at the end is him realizing at the end how many times he's failed at repenting, and how many times he's done this song and dance with himself in hell (or purgatory). All I know is that I got really bad anxiety from the ending of this film lol, I won't watch it again but I'm glad I did.
This is way more interesting than any tired parallels to Freud or Jung and Oedipus shit yet again. I'm gonna try rewatching movie with this in mind and see if it works for me that way. First watch was interesting but didn't leave me satisfied.
@@fatpackman9475 I rewatched and them being the same person doesn't work for me. But what can work is Wake being his punishment/test. He mentions couple times about Winslow possibly being able to see light eventually, if he'll be a good boy and so on. That might mean him being purrified and accepted into the light. What happens instead he fails the test and faces the light while being impure and gets fucked over.
I thought Wake was Howard. Hear me out. Winslow actually died during the painting of the lighthouse incident. Wake left him on the beach, which is the ending of the movie of seagulls picking his intestines. Wake coped with his loneliness by pretending Winslow was still around. After that time, Winslow began drinking. Started acting more like Wake over time. Became the patriarch. He could confess his sins from his youth to himself about murdering that guy. And ofcourse Ephraim starts calling himself Thomas. Just some food for thought.
Saw this opening night; and, upon the films conclusion, the entire packed theater sat still and silent as statues ALL THE WAY through the end credits. Nary a soul so much as coughed, whispered, or shifted. It was a shell shocked silence. BEAUTIFUL!!!
I had a similar experience! It wasn’t opening night, and the theater was pretty empty, but me my mom and my sister went to see it. After it ended, we were all speechless for over 30 minutes. I’ve only seen it once and it was one of the most impactful films I’ve seen
I can't recall what movie it was at this moment, but I've only experienced that once. Movie ends and the entire theater is completely silent, almost reverent. You know it's a great fucking movie when that happens.
“In the lighthouse he finds a tentacled beast dripping thick gloop”… I’d hate to tell you but it was in fact Wake who was dripping thick goop… he was standing up there naked and grunting… he was definitely “helping” himself
That’s hilarious! When I watched it the first time, my mind was going a million miles an hour with Jung, Frued, homoeroticism, the all mythological symbolism and about a little less that halfway through i thought “maaan, fuck all that.” and decided to just enjoy the ride and acting.
I really loved this movie and how terrifying the psychological horror it gave. The true horror comes from what isolation can do to people I believe. Even the dialogue feels so genuine and believable, you feel like your there. Dafoe and Pattison both nail their roles edit: I wonder if you will cover films like The Possession (1981)...
I also thought about if everything that we see in the movie has nothing to do with the supernatural, then the reason Thomas went insane completely when he saw the light was because it was just that, he thought he would find this explanation for everything or something there, but in the end it was nothing more than a light, a fire as it is typical for a lighthouse, he killed wake to finally see the light and it was just that, a light.
You have to ignore a lot of stuff though. Like, why is he lying half-dead and naked at the cost with one lost eye and seagulls eating his insides after he fell down the stairs clothed. Why is he literally climbing the lighthouse instead of walking the stairs? Why is his face normal when he starts the ascend but covered in blood or black paint when he arrives at the top? How is the light rotating, stopping and opening itself on its own? etc etc
@@stefbacum4454 thank you for replying!! Im gonna take a look anyway because I’ve heard from a few other YT videos there is a book and I really wanna find it! But anything that comes up when I type it in is a romance novel 😭
@@buckybarnes1218 you're welcome. It's just that I might just have them mixed up, can't remember as I ve read it a long time ago. BUT, if cold skin is not the book in regards to this video, I still recommend it as it's a nice read.
I watched The Lighthouse last night. Much like Erazerhead, I am torn between stunned admiration for it's brilliance and the strong desire to have never seen it at all. This one will haunt me for years. Not that you are likely to see this, but thank you for such a crisp explanation of it's themes and motivations. Kudos.
@@siddhartha6196 Just wait until life pulls you through some psychological torment of your own. The film plays on the cracks present in all of our minds, which grow wider with time. The more life you experience the more terrifying this film will become.
Saw this in a really nice theatre near the end of it's screening (very comfy and empty) and basically dissolved into the experience. Best money I ever spent.
I've been looking for anyone mentioning this. If you've watched this film in the theatres or with a 5.1 set up at home, you can sometimes hear the mermaid screech even though she's not on screen. I wonder what that's about.
I personally haven’t heard her screeches when she’s not on screen but that could be a nod to Winslow’s “id” in psychoanalysis your id is the animalistic sex/aggressiveness drive. So in the moments that you hear the screeches Winslow could be having sexual thoughts about the mermaid
A24 makes the greatest late night stoner films ever. The Witch, The Green Knight, this... Brilliant. Love the behind the scenes footage. I've been looking for stuff like this for a while now.
Green knight was such a great experience, i was a bit worried about being bored like some people said, i watched it 2 times, i didn't even get close to being bored, i get soo immersed that i don't even see how long the shots are
Did anyone else notice that they swapped bed spaces at a point. When they arrive it was Wake on the right and Winslow on the left. It could be perspective or me miss remembering.
I think it’s all but confirmed he killed his old boss. At least I think it’s a confirmation when he imagines Dafoe with the dudes face, and his first instinct when he sees that is to attack him. He doesn’t go “oh I wish I had helped” or even look at him regret-tingly, he INSTANTLY attacks him and personally I don’t think that’s random I think that was on purpose, otherwise why have him picture that at all?
I watched this movie 3 times to properly understand it. It’s one of the most trippy, and most fascinating thriller movie I’ve ever seen. And it’s really cool how it’s connected to Greek mythology, and the Greek god Prometheus of how he tried to take power that he couldn’t handle. And because of that his punishment is have his guts eaten out by a hawk every single day cause now he’s immortal. Very similar to Winslow with the lighthouse light where when he finally sees it He’s so terrified cause he cant handle it. And cause he wasn’t supposed to go up there he gets eaten by sea birds for the rest of his life.
@@theclown9293 the titans ARE the superior deities, they were the race of gods before the Olympians, their descendants, overthrew them. After that, they were imprisoned, so they would not have a chance of reclaiming their reign. Titans are more powerful as they are more primordial that the Olympians.
I have watched many breakdowns and explanations of this movie attempting to understand why some found it to be incredible ... and I have the reached the conclusion that this just wasnt for me and it went wayyyy over my head 😂🤣
@@boogiewoogie6734 just because someone doesn't like a movie doesn't make them a god damned idiot. Ironic, since you're displaying your own idiocy with your ignorance.
I think it's about isolation, Winslow and Thomas are two sexually frustrated men stuck on the island, the Light house and Mermaid are the only release that they have besides eachother. However due to their morals they don't do it with eachother instead looking for relief elsewhere. The lighthouse being the relief that both men want, so badly that they fight to the death over it. Once Winslow gets to the relief, the guilt and reason become overwhelming, causing him to fall.
Personally, and I mean personally, the scariest part for me was how close I technically am and was to the film itself. It was filmed at Cape Forchu in Nova Scotia, a place both myself and my mother have visited, and the iconography and nature of the environment the characters find themselves in screams Maritime. As if that weren't close enough, my girlfriend's father worked at the hotel in my hometown the crew stayed at on their way to Forchu, even getting to shake Willem's hand. Knowing someone so dear to me met the brilliant man who portrayed one of the darkest monsters in all of film strikes a trident of fear into my heart and leaves it there. Couple that with the nightmares the film portrays, and it all feels like I narrowly avoided these horrors myself, and what amazing horrors they were!
Thank you. I just saw the film on Amazon and finally got to see it. I saw 1 other analysis video and I feel like it was just a spark notes summary. You got into psychoanalysis and myth and all that which is what anyone looking for an "explained" video is looking for
Honestly I found this movie both hilarious and disturbing. I get why it wasn't great for some people, for me though it was highly interesting and all the way through I wondered what madness this was that had taken over them both.
He did kind of just give a summary of the plot instead of actually explaining what even he thinks it means. He’s giving some backstory which is nice I guess but that’s not the lighthouse explained, anyone looking that up is trying to understand what all this means and you’re right he didn’t really give a lot of that
Well that’s on you. After seeing this explanation I learned I am justified in wanting to punch myself in the face for sitting through this movie. Had a hunch by a third in I made a Bad choice. Stuck it through and wow, just wow, why
Its almost like what we see is the stream of consciousness that Poe would of have experienced as he wrote this, if he had written it lol its such a trip
Biggest take away here. Besides don't run to the frontier fringe of society an civilization to alieve yourself of some past guilt is DON'T ever mix strong chemicals with Honey... and then consume it.. it'll do all sorts of bad things to your mind
I belive its about two people being poisoned and not realising it. Led paint or the water was putrid. Everyrhing in the lighthouse is in bad state and poison is everywhere eroding them, consuming them and they cant get a grip.
I really like the idea of their being days passing we aren’t seeing since we only see it from robert pattinsons POV, I mean not literally but we’re always with him and know what he knows “for the most part”
After my third viewing.. although there are many things I’m missing due to my lack of knowledge regarding stories and gods of old, it seems like a great metaphor for a person who holds onto a terrible secret, how it destroys them from the inside out.
I had this idea that everything that happened in the movie was Robert Pattersons character slowly dying after being shipwrecked. And it was his imagination trying to explain why the lighthouse wasn't on.
Yeah I think that’s probably what a lot of people think I could see a handful of things pointing to that, but I think they made it so different scenarios would fit so it isn’t obvious
I think Winslow saw a mirror up there in the lighthouse. He sees how he has transformed into a monster and a lunatic, and that realisation terrifies him to the core, leading him to stumble and fall to his death.
Another little known fact is that they shot Dafoe’s lines three times. One take was that he knew Pattinson was a dirty mermaid shagger, one where he didn’t, and one where he wasn’t sure. The director then intercut them together.
I just finished up watching "The Vanishing" another great lighthouse mystery movie. And there's a scene where mercury is leaking from the light of the lighthouse (and is explained that is it used to run the light) & Gerard Butler's character has a scene where he warns a young man to stay away from the mercury, bc "a lot of good lighthouse keepers have gone mad from quicksilver.". I thought that was super intriguing and makes a great theory!
I think the movie is showing Pattinson’s character going through purgatory, the light is heaven and when he sneaks his way into heaven god casts him down into hell
Except from my Black Dossier on the movie after my first viewing and my interpretation of the imagery shown. This made under the assumption that everything we see is real, or at least the power creating this situation is real. - "In any mythology, at some point it is implied that a person name is actually powerful, if used right that name can by used against that person. So when the real Ephraim Winslow died because Thomas Howard (Robert Pattinson) didn't do anything to save him in the river and actually hinted his intent to kill him. After he left the loggin taking Ephraim Winslow name, his soul, rather the part of him attach to his name followed after him in the one eyed Seagull 2:40 (The Eyes are the window to the soul, thus with one eye could symbolism an incomplete presence, and broken or discarded soul) 6:03 Thus according to some Seagulls are the soul of sailors lost at sea, (Rivers always run to the sea in the end) Bad luck to kill. So when Ephraim Winslow took the wickie job under the dead man name, his discard self got pissed. Thus the seagull, attempts to impel himself to have Ephraim,(Man) kill Thomas (bird) with the image of a dead seagull in the cistern (Harken back to his original sin) 3:16 Now Thomas Wake, (Willem Dafoe) knows the light at it's man lens is alive, and powerful. His reason for being a wickie for so long. It's Equivalence to the the fires of Prometheus. So throughout the film that fire plus the one eyed gull are not only effecting Thomas Wake, but also Thomas Howards husk. Making him think a Siren wash upon the island as well as River Logs. Thus the man who is is played by the actor Robert Pattinson is not Thomas Howard, or even Ephriam Winslow, but the husk and soulless body acting to escape his soul while his soul, in anger of being cast out, chase him in the form of a One Eye Seagull. (A Soul Lost at sea.)" Later on I write base on this confusion of the psychological nature between the two actors under the father and son moniker and somehow write a broken theory thinking how the could actually be related in some form or fashion.
Having had been forced to watch Twilight during my teens by my GF at the time, I grew to hate Robert Patterson. Though after watching this I have now a deep respect for his talent. Never again shall I let the work of one cause me to cast down another.
Yes, the central thing to take away from this film is that lighthouses are just giant phalluses and not to mix turpentine with honey lol. Great video mate! Needed the help to understand what the heck was going on in this one. :)
I think the insanity might be something to do with Cabin Fever. Maybe the isolation from the light had driven the previous lighthouse keeper, and also drove Winslow to insanity. There could be a curse from the light, but I think it’s Cabin Fever, or should I say Lighthouse Fever
I fucking LOVE this movie. Everything about it is just incredibly well done. Dafoe was perfection and hilarious. Everything Eggers has done has been amazing, still waiting to see The Northman though.
"Alright have it your way, i like your cookin" had a hard laugh after such a tense scene lol
“If I had a steak - oh boy, if I had a bloody, rare steak, I’d… I’d… fuck it!”
I knew ye'd be fond of a man's lobster.
That was the best line. And Dafoe's curse was insane. Im still trying to see where he was breathing.
@@jinxedsphinx3600 i was wondering if he actually had said that. I was like...did he actually say he wanted to f a steak? But apparently, yes he did.
FR 😂
The reason Dafoe's character gave for not killing a sea bird is that they carry the souls of sailors lost at sea. The one seagull that tormented Pattinson's character (and he eventually killed) had one eye -- just like Dafoe's previous partner that went mad and died.
Brilliant!
Pattinson’s character also has a damaged eye in the last shot
@@kdizzle901 their eyes were damaged by the lighthouse!! Maybe the previous guy looked at it with one eye closed
@@kdizzle901 it was being pecked out by the seagulls. Birds do that to corpses
@@Tearyatobitz this is an old comment, but I just finished watching and currently processing what I've seen but I'd just like to add that in the Bible the punishment for lusting after a woman is plucking an eye out. Sorry for my run on, but I ended this film right at the peak of my current trip on shrooms and now I must find the answer lol
All of Dafoe's lines were unscripted. They just put Pattinson in a lighthouse with him and filmed it
That's kinda lazy on the production's part.
lolol even the farts were reallol
@@joefrancisochia5406 sarcasm eludes you
Dafoe was so commited to the role he actually spawned tentacles and transformed into a mermaid for that one scene. 10/10 for dedication
@@Fierylizard-zc3vk method acting ftw
Robert Pattinson nailed his performance while Willem Dafoe played one of the creepiest characters in film history. He even starts to manipulate Pattinson into thinking they have been on the island, for a week, a month, or a year.
in another video about the film they mentioned Dafoe actually stayed on the island after a days filming to really get into the character. im not surprised he had cast and crew shook
This movie was one of the most intriguing and memorable psychological horror movies I've seen
It's amazing!
It was definitely interesting
Bruh why do I keep seeing you?
@@themagicjuand I keep seeing him too everywhere...
😏
They went full God tier with this one. This director also made the witch, which makes him my favorite director overall now.
I hear he's directing a remastering of Nosferatu
@@d13lluge4 that's exciting !! I hope him and ari aster collab sometime ,I cant imagine what horror they woudl come up with
Funny enough this came out before the witch
@@jaketorres2388 How did it come out before the Witch if it was made in 2019? Time travel?
The witch was awesome. Looking forward to his horror/viking movie
I certainly noticed the parallels with the myth of Prometheus, but I also interpreted the film as a Lovecraftian horror with the Lighthouse being an eldritch entity.
Edgar Allen Poe. The cask of amontillado came to mind
What are more movies like this gem
I wish people didn’t try to attribute anything nautical with Lovecraft…
@@lemonyskull4813The northman, heavy with slavic and nordic mythology, and the witch, heavy with native american and witchcraft imagery. Both directed by the same director, Robert Eggers, and are all done in similar creepy and surreal fashion
I don't know about everyone else, but Robert Patterson is a good actor imo. People didn't like him because of Twilight, but after that, he's been doing alright as an actor.
If you watch his interviews during the Twilight time, you can see how much he made fun of it. He was always beyond that material, but it served as a good stepping stone for him. So it’s a bit conflicting for him to make fun of something that made him, but boy is it funny and true.
that is the problem, he lost credibility as a actor by doing that movie, he was lucky he could make other good movies, other actors in similar positions end their careers there, same for kristen stewart, she had i harder but she has done some great movies
@@arch1107 bull crap twilight was a sensation and it's cool to make fun of it now because every does it, but it's a movie that will stand the test of time, you can always go back to it and watch after many years
@@Jykobe491 i went with a friend expecting to see a cool vampires movie, instead of that we got a absurd piece of shit, we almost got out of the movie theater before it ended, the story is a complete and massive turd, is horrendous
the sequels, are as bad or worse
Paterson is a great actor even down a lot of good Indie work
These two acted their ASSES OFF. Holy shit. I watched the movie high af. I was so intrigued yet horrified at the same time.
I just watched this. Man it would be a trip to watch high lmao
Dude idk if I'd go near horror while high
@@lucienreyes9horrors so fun when you’re high
@@boofjew will try it then, but still apprehensive lol
Try going to rehab. You don't need drugs to enjoy things.
That cinematography was amazing. The way the camera and lighting creepily frames everything. MWAH.
Black and white movies sucks
I am born and raised in Portland , Maine. This is 100% accurate if anyone lies and says they dont like lobster . We deliver a much same curse, if only in our heads.
Yes. Who wouldn't LOVE to eat a creature that was boiled ALIVE! Hooray for animal cruelty!
@@sideskroll They're literally lining up around the block for it, sweetheart. Now melt away little snowflake ❄️
@@sideskroll im vegetarian too but bro.. i think Marianne meant that ppl who complain about the *taste* of lobster ...
@@sideskroll jesus, mary and joseph... it's just a large, tasty water scorpion... If you're going that far, do me a favor and rip out your own canine teeth, you're biologically an herbivore.
@@jakehawkinsmusic ??... So because you're unaware (or whats even worse, dont care) that lobsters actually have nervous systems similar to ours, meaning they feel the same as you would. I'm an "herbivore"?... What made you arrive at such an idiotic conclusion my friend? Also, never said anything against consuming meat, or animal products. But theres a huge difference between consuming something DEAD and boiling it alive. If you don't get why or how thats fucked up, you have some issues ..
I don't see this film as weird. I see it as a slow decent into madness, which we are all capable of falling into. Much easier than we realise.
Very true. I recently move back to my home country and notice a tremendous shift in my mental state. There was a time when I descended into madness because of isolation/burden/stress. Now Im with my family and whole. But I do miss the time when I almost lost my mind. The feeling is visceral just like how the movie depicted. There's something to it, I wouldn't want to return to that state but it was something.
You have to ignore a lot of stuff though. Like, why is he lying half-dead and naked at the cost with one lost eye and seagulls eating his insides after he fell down the stairs clothed. Why is he literally climbing the lighthouse instead of walking the stairs? Why is his face normal when he starts the ascend but covered in blood or black paint when he arrives at the top? How is the light rotating, stopping and opening itself on its own? etc etc
I got to the end of this film having no fucking clue what I had just seen but I sure did enjoy every insane moment of it.
he didn't "not lend a hand" we clearly saw him stab the man with the log hook in the flashes of his memory. He is an unrepentant murderer, it's kind of an important detail.
easily can be a vision of his own guilt in the form of "by not saving him i murdered him". you gotta take on the characters are insane before and after arrival, the only thing you can trust is nothing is trustworthy and in a weird way every possible way of reading the story is right and wrong, kinda schrodingers cat style
@@dariopasquino10 this movie sounds like a unique masterpiece
@@gabenason4879 it is really good, go see it if you haven't
I personally subscribe to the theory that Wake and Winslowe are the same person (with Winslowe being the dominant personality), and that the island is a literal purgatory where Winslowe must repent for his past sins (which he fails at entirely).
yeah the insane laughter at the end is him realizing at the end how many times he's failed at repenting, and how many times he's done this song and dance with himself in hell (or purgatory). All I know is that I got really bad anxiety from the ending of this film lol, I won't watch it again but I'm glad I did.
So i’m not the only one who believed this
This is way more interesting than any tired parallels to Freud or Jung and Oedipus shit yet again. I'm gonna try rewatching movie with this in mind and see if it works for me that way. First watch was interesting but didn't leave me satisfied.
thats too simple imo
@@fatpackman9475 I rewatched and them being the same person doesn't work for me. But what can work is Wake being his punishment/test. He mentions couple times about Winslow possibly being able to see light eventually, if he'll be a good boy and so on. That might mean him being purrified and accepted into the light. What happens instead he fails the test and faces the light while being impure and gets fucked over.
Eggers is definitely one of my favorites now. The cinematography is also brilliant in this. I've heard other theories that the island is purgatory
I thought Wake was Howard. Hear me out. Winslow actually died during the painting of the lighthouse incident. Wake left him on the beach, which is the ending of the movie of seagulls picking his intestines.
Wake coped with his loneliness by pretending Winslow was still around. After that time, Winslow began drinking. Started acting more like Wake over time. Became the patriarch. He could confess his sins from his youth to himself about murdering that guy. And ofcourse Ephraim starts calling himself Thomas. Just some food for thought.
Holy shit
Thats too simple and ignores all the symbolism about mermaids, tentacles, the light etc
This movie sucks and it's filmed so ugly
@@fruehlingsobst8123 and that symbolism is?
@@vladorkiba1718 See the video above you just commented on.
I was honestly waiting for them to break into making out the whole time. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a movie this unpredictable in a LOOONG time.
The scene with Wake being buried alive was truly disturbing
especially when he seems to be chewing the dirt! The lengths Dafoe goes to is amazing.
Saw this opening night; and, upon the films conclusion, the entire packed theater sat still and silent as statues ALL THE WAY through the end credits. Nary a soul so much as coughed, whispered, or shifted. It was a shell shocked silence. BEAUTIFUL!!!
I would have loved to see that.
Stop talking like them.
Funny how I just saw the Northman and it had the exact same effect on the theater!
I had a similar experience! It wasn’t opening night, and the theater was pretty empty, but me my mom and my sister went to see it. After it ended, we were all speechless for over 30 minutes. I’ve only seen it once and it was one of the most impactful films I’ve seen
I can't recall what movie it was at this moment, but I've only experienced that once. Movie ends and the entire theater is completely silent, almost reverent. You know it's a great fucking movie when that happens.
“In the lighthouse he finds a tentacled beast dripping thick gloop”… I’d hate to tell you but it was in fact Wake who was dripping thick goop… he was standing up there naked and grunting… he was definitely “helping” himself
That’s hilarious! When I watched it the first time, my mind was going a million miles an hour with Jung, Frued, homoeroticism, the all mythological symbolism and about a little less that halfway through i thought “maaan, fuck all that.” and decided to just enjoy the ride and acting.
I really loved this movie and how terrifying the psychological horror it gave. The true horror comes from what isolation can do to people I believe. Even the dialogue feels so genuine and believable, you feel like your there. Dafoe and Pattison both nail their roles
edit: I wonder if you will cover films like The Possession (1981)...
I also thought about if everything that we see in the movie has nothing to do with the supernatural, then the reason Thomas went insane completely when he saw the light was because it was just that, he thought he would find this explanation for everything or something there, but in the end it was nothing more than a light, a fire as it is typical for a lighthouse, he killed wake to finally see the light and it was just that, a light.
You have to ignore a lot of stuff though. Like, why is he lying half-dead and naked at the cost with one lost eye and seagulls eating his insides after he fell down the stairs clothed. Why is he literally climbing the lighthouse instead of walking the stairs? Why is his face normal when he starts the ascend but covered in blood or black paint when he arrives at the top? How is the light rotating, stopping and opening itself on its own? etc etc
You have the worst taste in movies
I ve read the book. The movie is surprisingly close to it.
mind posting a link? Every time I Google “the lighthouse book” it takes me to every single book the has the word in the title (,:
@@buckybarnes1218 it's called " Cold Skin" by Albert Sanchez Pinol if I'm not mistaken
Or i could have my movies mixed up
@@stefbacum4454 thank you for replying!! Im gonna take a look anyway because I’ve heard from a few other YT videos there is a book and I really wanna find it! But anything that comes up when I type it in is a romance novel 😭
@@buckybarnes1218 you're welcome. It's just that I might just have them mixed up, can't remember as I ve read it a long time ago. BUT, if cold skin is not the book in regards to this video, I still recommend it as it's a nice read.
I also see this movie as being a take on Garcia as well. Time is a circle. Both Thomases are the same person trapped eternally in a circle on the rock
Just like the light in the lighthouse that spins in a circle throughout the movie
so r u trapped in time ?? lol
I watched The Lighthouse last night. Much like Erazerhead, I am torn between stunned admiration for it's brilliance and the strong desire to have never seen it at all. This one will haunt me for years. Not that you are likely to see this, but thank you for such a crisp explanation of it's themes and motivations. Kudos.
I'm 12years old watched it last year and all i wanted was to guard the lighthouse it isn't that scary
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@@nk-sw2kd well... your mother seems to like it
@@siddhartha6196 Just wait until life pulls you through some psychological torment of your own. The film plays on the cracks present in all of our minds, which grow wider with time. The more life you experience the more terrifying this film will become.
@@alecnelson3000 i'm in some of that shit
Saw this in a really nice theatre near the end of it's screening (very comfy and empty) and basically dissolved into the experience. Best money I ever spent.
Nothing makes a Sunday morning more relaxing then a cup of coffee and a new FCE video!
Preach!
I've been looking for anyone mentioning this. If you've watched this film in the theatres or with a 5.1 set up at home, you can sometimes hear the mermaid screech even though she's not on screen.
I wonder what that's about.
I personally haven’t heard her screeches when she’s not on screen but that could be a nod to Winslow’s “id” in psychoanalysis your id is the animalistic sex/aggressiveness drive. So in the moments that you hear the screeches Winslow could be having sexual thoughts about the mermaid
The Gordon Fisherman and Long John Silver. The original Odd Couple.
Was I the only one who thinks Winslow's accent changed at some point in the movie.
A24 makes the greatest late night stoner films ever. The Witch, The Green Knight, this... Brilliant. Love the behind the scenes footage. I've been looking for stuff like this for a while now.
Green knight was such a great experience, i was a bit worried about being bored like some people said, i watched it 2 times, i didn't even get close to being bored, i get soo immersed that i don't even see how long the shots are
DUDE WEED LMAO
If you bring this movie to your next sesh I guarantee you won’t be invited again
This has been on my watch list for ages I've just never got round to seeing it but I definitely will now .
The part where he's touching the light and screaming had me terrified
Sounds like your just a follower
Did anyone else notice that they swapped bed spaces at a point.
When they arrive it was Wake on the right and Winslow on the left. It could be perspective or me miss remembering.
YES, they swapped smoking methods also. The pipe and the cigarette.
Thanks for that! I love how there are arthouse films that can make you think, but are surface level enjoyable.
Dafoe and Pattinson were incredible in this movie.
I think it’s all but confirmed he killed his old boss. At least I think it’s a confirmation when he imagines Dafoe with the dudes face, and his first instinct when he sees that is to attack him. He doesn’t go “oh I wish I had helped” or even look at him regret-tingly, he INSTANTLY attacks him and personally I don’t think that’s random I think that was on purpose, otherwise why have him picture that at all?
There's been an influx of lighthouse movies on prime lately and I can't get enough of em. They are all so trippy!
That slap was so strong it brought me to an ad about opportunities.
The one movie that made me sit down, think real hard and go…
*”Wtf!?”*
I watched this movie 3 times to properly understand it. It’s one of the most trippy, and most fascinating thriller movie I’ve ever seen. And it’s really cool how it’s connected to Greek mythology, and the Greek god Prometheus of how he tried to take power that he couldn’t handle. And because of that his punishment is have his guts eaten out by a hawk every single day cause now he’s immortal. Very similar to Winslow with the lighthouse light where when he finally sees it He’s so terrified cause he cant handle it. And cause he wasn’t supposed to go up there he gets eaten by sea birds for the rest of his life.
Prometheus was a titan, loved your comment tho.
@@hunterthompson7605 Aren’t Titan’s And God’s almost the same things
@@theclown9293 the titans ARE the superior deities, they were the race of gods before the Olympians, their descendants, overthrew them. After that, they were imprisoned, so they would not have a chance of reclaiming their reign. Titans are more powerful as they are more primordial that the Olympians.
This movie sucks u just like it cuz it's white people
Good job man, keep doing weird Lovecraft stuff
Just finished watching the movie, was fantastic. Wish the “deeper than face value” aspect of the movie was much more popular in modern film making
I tried to watch this movie but couldn't get through but I'm glad you could so I'll watch your review great job.
It’s a weird film to sit through. You should def give it another go though!
@@filmcomicsexplained I'll give it another try based on your recommendation.
@@lordrontoryndo6384I hope you didn’t. I see I might be late in saving you two hours you will never get back.
The fact that they weren’t even nominated for the academy awards is beyond me
Even after seeing this explanation, I still don’t understand the movie 😂
I didn't understand the explanation 😂
How could it be explained. The channel did its best to make sense of horse shite.
I have watched many breakdowns and explanations of this movie attempting to understand why some found it to be incredible ... and I have the reached the conclusion that this just wasnt for me and it went wayyyy over my head 😂🤣
Thats ok :)
Now go watch spiderman lol
@@boogiewoogie6734 he is right tho it was kinda boring. Ending was amazing it terrified me but them getting drunk and shit got repetitive.
Pretty sure even the director didn't understand it
@@boogiewoogie6734 just because someone doesn't like a movie doesn't make them a god damned idiot. Ironic, since you're displaying your own idiocy with your ignorance.
Freals 🤣🤣🤣
Part of the horror of the lighthouse is that it can’t be explained.
😂 Spot on
I think it's about isolation, Winslow and Thomas are two sexually frustrated men stuck on the island, the Light house and Mermaid are the only release that they have besides eachother. However due to their morals they don't do it with eachother instead looking for relief elsewhere. The lighthouse being the relief that both men want, so badly that they fight to the death over it. Once Winslow gets to the relief, the guilt and reason become overwhelming, causing him to fall.
That explains why they were gonna kiss
post lighthouse clarity
@@vdfritzz It'll get you every time.
Let me guess.. you like men irl and youre projecting your desires into the plot of the movie. Lol
@@yuk4z3 Let me guess.. the thought of someone having a different perspective than yours makes you mald.
I watched this when i was so angry and hurt by personal events and it made me feel better like therapy… I wouldn’t have watched it if i was happy
“Tentacle beast dripping thick gloop”
That wasn’t from the beast my friend lol
Code for Wake packing?
Yupp, Winslow even mentions something about "jizz" later on in the movie, which made it clear what it was lol
Great channel you make my long drives feel like nothing keep it up
Personally, and I mean personally, the scariest part for me was how close I technically am and was to the film itself. It was filmed at Cape Forchu in Nova Scotia, a place both myself and my mother have visited, and the iconography and nature of the environment the characters find themselves in screams Maritime. As if that weren't close enough, my girlfriend's father worked at the hotel in my hometown the crew stayed at on their way to Forchu, even getting to shake Willem's hand. Knowing someone so dear to me met the brilliant man who portrayed one of the darkest monsters in all of film strikes a trident of fear into my heart and leaves it there. Couple that with the nightmares the film portrays, and it all feels like I narrowly avoided these horrors myself, and what amazing horrors they were!
You have a wild imagination
Dafoe mentioned never wanting to going back to Salem, (town of witches) was interesting to me
“Yerr fond of me lobster ain’t ya?!”
the Call of Cthulhu vibes I got from this movie were immense
Thank you. I just saw the film on Amazon and finally got to see it. I saw 1 other analysis video and I feel like it was just a spark notes summary. You got into psychoanalysis and myth and all that which is what anyone looking for an "explained" video is looking for
Man when he farted in his face 🤣 and the pimp slap "BAD LUCK TO KILL A SEA BIRD" scene then clap!
Honestly I found this movie both hilarious and disturbing. I get why it wasn't great for some people, for me though it was highly interesting and all the way through I wondered what madness this was that had taken over them both.
I've learned absolutely nothing.
He did kind of just give a summary of the plot instead of actually explaining what even he thinks it means. He’s giving some backstory which is nice I guess but that’s not the lighthouse explained, anyone looking that up is trying to understand what all this means and you’re right he didn’t really give a lot of that
Well that’s on you. After seeing this explanation I learned I am justified in wanting to punch myself in the face for sitting through this movie. Had a hunch by a third in I made a
Bad choice. Stuck it through and wow, just wow, why
Had a very Edgar Allen Poe feel to it
Its almost like what we see is the stream of consciousness that Poe would of have experienced as he wrote this, if he had written it lol its such a trip
This film ….is now a classic in my mind and I WILL definitely watch it again. Best acting I have seen from Patts. Dafoe is gold…as usual ❤
Biggest take away here. Besides don't run to the frontier fringe of society an civilization to alieve yourself of some past guilt is DON'T ever mix strong chemicals with Honey... and then consume it.. it'll do all sorts of bad things to your mind
I think they were both the same person. One man alone on a rock, punishing himself for the choices hes made
I watched it clean
I watched it drunk
I didn’t glean
What I’d have thunk
I belive its about two people being poisoned and not realising it. Led paint or the water was putrid. Everyrhing in the lighthouse is in bad state and poison is everywhere eroding them, consuming them and they cant get a grip.
Also very heavy alcohol consumption and isolation would end up into madness and death.
I really like the idea of their being days passing we aren’t seeing since we only see it from robert pattinsons POV, I mean not literally but we’re always with him and know what he knows “for the most part”
After my third viewing.. although there are many things I’m missing due to my lack of knowledge regarding stories and gods of old, it seems like a great metaphor for a person who holds onto a terrible secret, how it destroys them from the inside out.
“Ain’t nobody got time for that” 🤣🤣 classic
I had this idea that everything that happened in the movie was Robert Pattersons character slowly dying after being shipwrecked. And it was his imagination trying to explain why the lighthouse wasn't on.
Yeah I think that’s probably what a lot of people think I could see a handful of things pointing to that, but I think they made it so different scenarios would fit so it isn’t obvious
I was eagerly waiting for you to break this movie down ! Grabbing a cuppa and settling down ❤
I think Winslow saw a mirror up there in the lighthouse. He sees how he has transformed into a monster and a lunatic, and that realisation terrifies him to the core, leading him to stumble and fall to his death.
Another little known fact is that they shot Dafoe’s lines three times. One take was that he knew Pattinson was a dirty mermaid shagger, one where he didn’t, and one where he wasn’t sure. The director then intercut them together.
Hey mate, you have to do the classic French film The city of lost children, a true master.
YES 👏
I just finished up watching "The Vanishing" another great lighthouse mystery movie. And there's a scene where mercury is leaking from the light of the lighthouse (and is explained that is it used to run the light) & Gerard Butler's character has a scene where he warns a young man to stay away from the mercury, bc "a lot of good lighthouse keepers have gone mad from quicksilver.". I thought that was super intriguing and makes a great theory!
Love your channel mate.
Much appreciated
I think the movie is showing Pattinson’s character going through purgatory, the light is heaven and when he sneaks his way into heaven god casts him down into hell
Except from my Black Dossier on the movie after my first viewing and my interpretation of the imagery shown. This made under the assumption that everything we see is real, or at least the power creating this situation is real.
- "In any mythology, at some point it is implied that a person name is actually powerful, if used right that name can by used against that person. So when the real Ephraim
Winslow died because Thomas Howard (Robert Pattinson) didn't do anything to save him in the river and actually hinted his intent to kill him. After he left the loggin taking Ephraim Winslow name, his soul, rather the part of him attach to his name followed after him in the one eyed Seagull 2:40 (The Eyes are the window to the soul, thus with one eye could symbolism an incomplete presence, and broken or discarded soul) 6:03
Thus according to some Seagulls are the soul of sailors lost at sea, (Rivers always run to the sea in the end) Bad luck to kill. So when Ephraim Winslow took the wickie job under the dead man name, his discard self got pissed. Thus the seagull, attempts to impel himself to have Ephraim,(Man) kill Thomas (bird) with the image of a dead seagull in the cistern (Harken back to his original sin) 3:16
Now Thomas Wake, (Willem Dafoe) knows the light at it's man lens is alive, and powerful. His reason for being a wickie for so long. It's Equivalence to the the fires of Prometheus. So throughout the film that fire plus the one eyed gull are not only effecting Thomas Wake, but also Thomas Howards husk. Making him think a Siren wash upon the island as well as River Logs.
Thus the man who is is played by the actor Robert Pattinson is not Thomas Howard, or even Ephriam Winslow, but the husk and soulless body acting to escape his soul while his soul, in anger of being cast out, chase him in the form of a One Eye Seagull. (A Soul Lost at sea.)"
Later on I write base on this confusion of the psychological nature between the two actors under the father and son moniker and somehow write a broken theory thinking how the could actually be related in some form or fashion.
People love this movie it is a real mind bender for me.
The foreshadowing should be noted when theyre drunk, and hiding under the table with the axe in it. The axe is directly over Toms head. Yep.
I always look forward to your videos man, you always hit the nail on the head
Having had been forced to watch Twilight during my teens by my GF at the time, I grew to hate Robert Patterson. Though after watching this I have now a deep respect for his talent. Never again shall I let the work of one cause me to cast down another.
Filmcomicsexplained knows more than me about the Lighthouse.
Me: whyca spilllll yourrr beans?
The director is under rated in my opinion
The movie was too weird, I quit watching it after Patterson's character was fixing the roof and started peeping on the old man masterbaiting
Lmaoooooo
Yes, the central thing to take away from this film is that lighthouses are just giant phalluses and not to mix turpentine with honey lol. Great video mate! Needed the help to understand what the heck was going on in this one. :)
My friends won’t shut up about this movie lol
This movie felt like a gta movie
Just watched this yesterday. You rock!
Thanks, always appreciate your take
My pleasure!
I believe the ending actually was supposed to be him up in Canada dying. So we can debate if it’s all a hallucination or not.
I’m so early! I love your videos!
@2:39
NYAT: God, this movie is weird
ME: Glad you've been able to finish deconstructing it
😂😂
One of my all time favorite phycological thrillers of 2019
I think the insanity might be something to do with Cabin Fever. Maybe the isolation from the light had driven the previous lighthouse keeper, and also drove Winslow to insanity. There could be a curse from the light, but I think it’s Cabin Fever, or should I say Lighthouse Fever
So Gregory woke up from being murdered by voltermore and the mermaids attack him again
I fucking LOVE this movie. Everything about it is just incredibly well done. Dafoe was perfection and hilarious. Everything Eggers has done has been amazing, still waiting to see The Northman though.
My favorite part is when the green goblin is gooning at the top of the lighthouse and spills his spunk on edward
What if the Seabird Winslow kills was just tryna help him with the quantities on the cistern salts?