Biggest fumble...EVER!!! and she barely did any performances or promo for both singles? No takeovers, no social media presence (barely) barely any award show performances...Just nothing.
Well... 1. Her team was a mess. She's since gotten new management, and that's already started to promote her better. 2. She had to take a break since both her mom(who was battling it a 2nd time) and her father were battling cancer.
its crazy because they all had different qualities that made them great individuals Normani had the most range in the group (you'd often hear her vocals paired with camilas Im songs), Camila and Lauren and ally had the most distinctive/unique vocals, Dinah and Ally had the strongest voices and Camila and ally's and Norman's vocals where the most consistent during live performances.
I followed them since x factor and normani was definitely not one of the most consistent vocally. She was always pitchy and/or flat. especially when they first started out.
@@aiden8111yes they were ! They would just lower her mic in a lot of performances that weren’t televised.. IYKYK..mani held togethercmodt of the harmonies!
@@tatum635pitchy? Let’s not lie ! Flat ? I could see where you get that Deron but that’s bc they sorest did get dirty with her mic snd her voice is not a belting one
Camila is a gorgeous fair-skinned Latina with a lovely pop voice... they put her on the forefront because she brought the most money. That's why the group basically tanked without her on it. Normani is the only one besides Camilla to have star-like qualities but is now horribly managed.
@@abdelhak_13I think it's mainly her youthful and cute looks bc if it's about her being a fair-skinned Latina, Lauren would've been popular as well. When Camila left, that clearly didn't work since she has a more mature aura and look.
@@Littlebigrobert Most of the girls are fair skinned in the group. She was made the lead vocalist bc she had a unique and very distinctive voice which is a FACT. It wasn't about having the better voice. And It's based on vocal abilities alone. Normani is last place. Normani is a DANCER but not much of a singer. Lauren, Ally and Dinah were the far better vocalists of the group and Lauren is white AF with blue eyes
@@tatum635 and you're still bringing out 2016 Dimah? Have you not seen her after camila left? She killed every camila's part.. She even took it to another level with real VOCALS. Y'all Dinah haters still with the same shit talking about breatb control. Tf
It is really not about talent or sounding good. Dinah was the most skilled vocally and we all saw the mistreatment she had. Camila was talented as well but also was the most fit for the industry and could easily be marketable. She was a fair skinned latina, skinny and had a unique voice.
Lauren is a far better singer than Camilla and she's very white lol. It wasn't about being fair skinned. Camilla had unique/distinctive tone just like T-Boyz in TLC, Kandi Burruss in Xscape or Slim in 112 AND she had the huge growing latino audience regardless of skin tone (latino is not a race) behind her
@@AngeBiampandou Well yeah it was said that Lauren was the first one approached by her label to have solo activities but she declined cz she didn't want it to conflict with the group. So she was clearly chosen first based on her looks and how marketable she is. All the members were ethnic but the woman of color mostly got the least exposure. Dinah is a polynesian/Pacific Islander , Normani is black , Ally is brown Mexican. So those 2 especially were the most loved by both the label and the fans
Camila wasn’t the best vocalist but she was the most consistent vocally. she was always on point in live shows and she def had a more pop voice. She also has a really likable personality that’s why she’s succeeded so much
During X factor each girl had a role to play Lauren was shown and supposed to be the leader of the group, Ally the big sister, Dinah the goofy one, Normani the diva and camila relatable fan girl. After that the label decided to put camila out most because she had most followers because of her relatability. She had the most lines in songs and most outspoken during interviews. I think the four really became Fifth Harmony once she left the group but the label of course screwed them over
When i was young, camila was the face of the group. She have that sexy-cute-girl image that always works to every popstars (like britney). That's why she kinda carried the group, then the label put her in the front of anyone like she is the beyonce. But now she is not that girl anymore. Her looks kinda change & idk she kinda fall off. She looks different (not in a good way). Her music only a HIT on first album.
No, Dee it’s not cause she “sounds good.” She was a cute little white Latina with a unique voice (not necessarily a good one, but that’s subjective) and marketable in that regard. Pretty simple explanation really.
@@j.4867 Camilla only has 2 hit songs and doesn’t perform. Normani has a hit every year with her annual song😂 and usually does yearly performances. also Normani isn’t racist
@@WavyGregg If racism was a factor Morgan Wallen wouldn't have one of the most successful albums of the year. If you check Camila's stats, Normani's don't come close and I like Normani more than Camila, but that's just facts.
The thing is , Camila’s voice was the complete opposite of everyone else’s in the group , everyone had a soulful , creamy vocals meanwhile camila had a fast , high pitched and agile voice. It’s not chimpunk-like tho that’s an extreme example imo , they’re all good and have their individual strengths but her voice would stick out and draw attention even NOW camila goes viral for her parts in 5th harmony songs , she was the only perfect candidate for a pop career , even know in their solo career she’s the only one that makes pop music , this doesn’t mean the others are bad or anything , it’s just different strengths , different outcomes
Camila definitely wasn't the best vocalist in the group but she was the most "marketable" according to the label. It was so jarring because camila has a high pitched almost chipmunk voice where as the other girls had more raspy or soulful voices.
Sometimes the most distinctive/unique tone of the group help sell more records. Think about Diana Ross, T-Boyz, Kandi Burruss in Xscape or Slim from 112. Every lead singers isn't always the one with the most vocal range like MJ or Beyoncé and other groups. It's a lot of other factors. The public also relates to the youngest more when they are age differences as well. MJ was the youngest, Justin Timberlake was the youngest as well even tho JC was stronger vocally. They both were co-leading and had strong stage presence and could dance (JT being the better dancer tho). But Justin was younger and basically was in charge of their last album in terms of artistic direction. He brought Pharrell on Gone Girl and the rest is history and he was forming a couple with Britney who was the 'it girl". The girls were obssessed with him
I mean camila also had the most solo fans , she was the “relatable one “ she was a one direction and Taylor swift superfan so fans were drawn to her on top of her distinct voice , and when she got most of the attention ofc she was put in the front even though she had no decision in that
Camila I believe had more IG followers than the Fifth Harmony account did at one point. She was quirky, relatable, and likeable. Her song with MGK was a hit. And it allowed her to be successful outside the group. She vocals aren’t the best, but they are MEMORABLE. No one else sounds like her. They all auditioned as solo. So by the end of their 2nd album, she dipped. Rightfully so. Hell I would’ve done the same.
@@platinumgreyx8976 Well she’s flopped now so can’t be that memorable lol also it’s the way HOW she left that made the other girls upset. She pure left when 5H was at its peak. What she did was selfish and now her career is paying the price for what she did.
I found some of her songs that were scrapped before they could get released and now I'm mad cause I absolutely loved two of them and put them on my playlist. One was flagged and removed from RUclips by the uploader but the other is still there. It's sabotage for sure if she had that potential.
I feel like with her being a fan favorite at the time, that was also a reason why they pushed her to be the main everything so hard, marketing purposes ofc
I think Camila is the most commercial artist and that’s all it came down to. She was the money maker. If it was about whiteness like some are saying why wouldn’t they have pushed Lauren more? She didn’t have a bad voice , and is definitely whiter then Camila.
i dont get the hate towards camila and her voice tbh. She had the best ad libs out of everyone in the group and imo some of the best ad libs ive ever heard in music in general. the girl can instantly turn a good song into a masterpiece. i love me some soulful and powerful voices but for pop music specifically camila was spot on
It's just because she has a voice that fit pop music at that time, that's it. It's like how there was a whole era where everybody tried to sing like Halsey (that really annoying "italic" accent) because that was what was marketable at that time.
Y’all in the comments so desperately want it to be a “race” thing and it’s embarrassing. The argument doesn’t hold up when there was a lighter skinned girl in the group who most agreed had a better voice. This victim to the system mindset is cringy asf
I blame the music industry, for overshadowed the others. For making Camila the cash cow, that’s all she really is. She nothing but a money maker for them.
Yes! It maybe industry who made Normani, Ally, Lauren and Dinah less important in the group. But I think Camila still stuck up diva, thinking that she is better than all of them. But she not that great of a singer, Ally or Dinah should of a successful solo career. Not Camila, I can’t stand her or her singing. All she is screaming her lung out.
The only song I know by Camila is Havana and that song got on my nerves! They overplayed it. I know more songs from Lauren, Dinah and Normani because they are the more “R&B” type singers. Ally is good too but I only know one of her songs too and that’s because Tyga was on it 😫
Victoria aka "Posh Spice" got married with David Beckham in the late 90s. She is the one who elevated his image and brand and pretty turned him into a sex symbol worlwide and they are one of the biggesr power couple of the past 20 years. She is a fashion and designer and he is a retired British football legend
@@LovelyAriyah Maybe if you’re tone deaf. Her voice will never compare to the powerhouse soulfulness of Dinah, or the range/agility of Ally, or the sultry/raspiness of Lauren’s, or the smooth velevety tone of Normani. Her voice easily becomes the most annoying to listen to.
@@SaidByTy no your death tone the rest of fifth harmony fell off after the group ended nobody listens to there shit music… Camilla was actually on the maps after fifth harmony unlike the rest of the group they have not one hit song Camilla has tons of hit songs .. the rest of the group are flops 🥰
@@OfficialCaiteit’s not just about vocals. It’s about overall star quality and ‘it’ factor. Camila had that and that’s why she was pushed. That’s life you gotta compete otherwise others will shine over you.
@@OfficialCaitethey were literally 17yo she was still trying to discover her sound so obviously someone her vocals wont be on point but I still disagree I think its a taste thing but her vocals are powerful specially live on more quiet songs
One of the funniest things I find about them trying to push out Camila as the star is, long ago she had a pr relationship with Austin Mahone, partly filmed on awesomeness TV but if u watch the videos u can clearly tell he was WAAYYY MORE into normani and they had more in common😭😭😭.
If you do a vid reactions to about 2-3 of their music videos you will literally hear camila majority of the time. She had all those back up vocals, the runs , the main parts. You’ll notice in songs like work from home, boss, & that’s my girl. Even in almost all of their songs you’ll think she was the lead singer. I’m looking forward to more on this topic, it seems a lot of ppl didn’t know the spotlight was on her when I noticed it all the way back on X factor lol. Some of her songs are Señorita ft Shawn Mendes, crying in the club, Havana, & a song with MGK, crying in the club you’ll have to skip like 2min into the intro bc it’s a preview of another song at the beginning.
As talented as Normani is, I see what it is and this why I've always said the music industry isn't just about talent and is a scam. They cherry pick who they want to succeed. Normani jumped all the hurdles. She's got talent, beauty, performing, personality, and stage presence. And everytime she knocks it out the park, they put another obstacle infront of her. She's just a dark skinned black girl that they didn't want to market or push and that's it.
As someone whos been rooting for Normani since she was on DWTS and prior, I see why she hasnt really succeeded compared to Camilla and others like a Sza. Its hard to connect with Normani on a deeper level that isnt just music related. That perhaps couldve worked in the 90s and even early 2000s, but youre not getting by on just your music alone. Beyonce is BARELY getting by on just music and ive been a beyhive for years!! Normani has the beauty, and stage presence (kinda) she just dances, doesnt really interact or connect with the crowd/audience. I think its way more than 'they just didnt want to push her' Something about Normani is just not there....That IT factor is lacking.
i cant stand camilas voice and the way she sings and that whole cinderella movie really solidified my feelings about her singing voice i only like one song by her and i can only listen to the slowed reverb version
Camila had the best look, the most unique voice, and overall presence - it is referred to as “the it factor”. Normanda-or whatever her name was - can’t just get that from watching a bunch of RUclips videos trying to teach herself to sing. Regardless, Camilas tend to end laughing all the way to the bank at the end.
as much as i love normani she rlly gave & gives us nothing.. music wise. however camila had/has a unique voice and it she shouldnt of been in the band in the first place her voice stuck out too much she should of been a solo artist. and camila released very good songs so i get why she overshadowed them all
You should react to Fifth Harmony’s live vocals to hear all the girls sing and determine which you think is the strongest! Just not the video posted by PopCrush 😅
Tbh they did low key kicked her out the group bc of her comments n stuff n it seemed like camila wanted to leave anyways my thing is they was being shady towards her when she left n den Camilla started rising to fame with her songs
I think you should look up each one of their songs individually Camilla: shameless Lauren: expectations Norman : Motivation or dancing with a stranger Ally: lips don’t lie Dinah : heard it all before
I’m pretty you have heard some of Camilas songs without noticing. On regards of the racist comments she was young, most of people make racist comments without thinking or knowing the context of the words.
There was so so much hype on Normani in 2017-2019. She dropped the ball HARD. So many people co-signed her. Had her back. She was/is an ambassador for Rihanna’s Savage Fenty. She has been solo for 5-6 yrs…. And STILL NO DEBUT ALBUM. What is she doing
Dinah was the best singer by miles, Normani was the best dancer by miles, but Camila fit the basic white girl mold (along with being able to sing a lil bit (emphasis on lil))
I love that regardless of all this negative energy and envy towards Camila, she has already released 3 albums and won several awards around the world! You may not appreciate your voice, but millions more love to hear it!
I mean it's an acquired taste. Many people may dislike it but others love it. Hearing her voice personally gives me a headache because of her tone and the nasal sound, but then again, with people like Halsey who cursive sing and also have easily made fun of voices, there's always an audience in the market for that sound.
Camila didn’t work that as much as the other, she just got lucky and was put front and centre. After she got an offer to go career, she took and stabs the others in the back.
@@Sammy.H.Redwood She didnt stab anyone in the back. They were already jealous/hating on her BEFORE she left. Real 5h fans know this. Before Camilla officially left the other 4 would always leave her out of group activites/parties etc. She was just different and thats ok
Camilla isn't a good singer. T-Boz has a very unique tone. She's not a great singer and alot of people don't like her voice but hee voice is what makes them stand out. Chili could've been any other singer because alot of singers have similar voices. As far as Britney Spears, the industry made her sing like that. Britney can actually belt and has a much better voice than her music shows. Groups tend to break up because of the inequality involved. There's always at least one singer of a group that has an amazing voice but is put in the background. When it comes to Beyonce and Destiny's child the original group could ALL sing. But as soon as 2 of the members wanted different management, that was it. Once they kicked Farrah out and it was Beyonce, Kelly and Michelle, like Beyonce said in that clip, everyone could sing lead because they COULD sing. Look at Danity Kane. They all sung lead but Shannon was definitely more of a background singer even though she could sing. But we know whatever group Puff puts together he makes sure to somehow break apart.
I just don’t think American girl groups were domestically marketable in the early 2010s. All of the girls should’ve been pushed to prioritize individual/external projects while they were at the height of popularity. I honestly think that “putting the group first” is what ultimately causes conflicts between artists and stifles their careers.
it's not camila's fault that she came out in the top because she was chosen as the main one and for ppl saying she's white latina excuse me but her skin color doesn't define her ethnicity its a fact that she's mexican/cuban. normani had the chance to be mainstream but she didn't put out any music :/ lauren always has AMAZING music but I don't think she wants to be mainstream she likes being simple. for the rest Idk tbh I didn't follow recently what they do but all am saying is its been 7 years at this point they either make it in the music business or not and camila deserves every ounce of success
@@SaidByTy so is Lauren you idiot. You’ve literally commented “she’s a white Latina” under EVERY thread. Bro just stfu and move on it’s clearly because her voice was the most unique. Oh and FYI, almost every popular artist in the industry right now is mixed/black so hop off and sit down.
their label screwed them ALL over and abused them daily including camila who left first obviously because she had no freedom to write music which she loves the most, she got the most backlash because that's what happens when you leave the group first you're viewed as the one who ruined them but the truth is that their label is responsible for what happened
Camila Cabello reminds me of early Brittany Spears. That raspy nasaly ick sound. Honestly they were never going to be a fully cohesive group because they were forced to be together by a reality tv show competition. They weren't like friends from the same hometown, or girls who went to the same school and were in the same afterschool vocal club. They were just five strangers crammed together by a show.
She isn’t a hard working person, people in the industry made her fame. Nothing she did what made her a superstar, the other girls work hard to to make their dream come true. But the music industry made Camila, their money maker and cash cow.
No Britney definitely can’t sing. Britney used to be a slightly below AVERAGE singer, and after all the damage she’s done to her voice she can’t sing at all now. We literally had her screaming in her bathroom last year calling it singing remember?
Normani is a fantastic dancer, but she could barely sing in the group and just never stood out...she was just...There. Lauren was the 'break out' IT girly after Camilla tbh Camilla always had that quirky personality which makes her more relatable and people draw to her. Camilla was my fav on the Xfactor, then after she left the group (cause the other girls were lowkey jealous she got all the attention) the other 4 and their fans were hating on camila
her name is pronounced CaMEEla CabeYO not CaMillUh CaBello. it's a spanish name and different from "Camilla" so it doesn't sound the same. Edit: Camila became the most marketed member because a lot of fifth harmony fans found her the funniest. Originally (better together era) they intended to market Lauren as the face of the group but switched to Camila after her popularity grew. Her distinct voice also helped. Camila's consistency with live vocals also helped. Their Kelly & Michael performance kind of showed that she had better breath control than everyone else.
Her voice is nasally AF. I still can’t say Norman is better than any one of them tbh because I still have yet to hear her sing sing. For sure Dinah Jane’s music that she has out are bangers I personally love R&B and her ish hits lyrically. Ally Brooke is basic she sounds like every other pop star her music is very teen bop , Lauren’s fist few solo music hits hard if you like that emotional music expectations is what I listen to when I want to let my husband know he’s being “unkind”… NormanI I have only heard motivation but I didn’t really feel her range there. I wish them all success I mean I think it’s time to replace Taylor Swift (annoying AF broad) and Olivia Rodrigo
Y’all in the comments are really rude and gross…let’s be honest here Camila was an incredible singer and if y’all wanna say that the other girls in the group were better singers than her how did Camila continue with her solo career striving immensely while the other girls didn’t as solo artists…Camila was the main singer not only cuz she had a unique voice but cuz she had immense voice stability and incredibly vocal technique…there are multiple times in 5th harmony live performances where the other girl seem tired and out of breath while camila still has a stable voice…and abt y’all hating on Camila’s voice,y’all are tripping…there’s been multiple professional vocal coaches that have praised Camila on her beautiful voice and immense vocal technique so y’all are just haters…and not to mention that as soon as Camila left the group 5th harmony’s career fell off and that’s when all the other girls started going solo too
@@o_huskywolfdean7 if she wasn’t an incredible singer how are vocal coaches praising her?! And if she wasn’t a great singer why did Fifth Harmony go downhill when she left?! Like let’s be honest with ourselves here…when Camilla left 5H’s live performances we’re trash cuz Camila was the only one with a stable voice and that could consistently hit the high notes
@@vikkidonn Not subjective. Wether you like the tone of their voices or not is subjective, but Ally and Dinah are the best vocalists out of the bunch by a pretty long shot. But then again, you're right in saying that Ally and Dinah are probably the least marketable ones.
The fact that Motivation was not immediately followed up with an album will forever boggle my mind. How they managed to fumble that I’ll never know.
Right or at LEAST after wild side. They allowed way too much time to pass. The fact that we still don’t have something in 2023 is insane.
and they still wont put anything out for her
@@lifeisrosyyyy’all keep saying they but I think she plays a huge part too. 🤷🏾♀️
@@artgroupie That part.
Biggest fumble...EVER!!! and she barely did any performances or promo for both singles? No takeovers, no social media presence (barely) barely any award show performances...Just nothing.
"She's had multiple hits?! What are they???"
The way Dee be casually shading these people lmaooo
I’m saying. The way my lips sucked in to keep from laughing😂😂
I'm currently laughing at that part, it was so SEAMLESS!! LMAAOAOAOA
Normani could’ve been just like Camila, but we literally have no music
Well...
1. Her team was a mess. She's since gotten new management, and that's already started to promote her better.
2. She had to take a break since both her mom(who was battling it a 2nd time) and her father were battling cancer.
Wait what Normani was battling cancer
@@ACE_swavy her parents were
@@melaninatedgoddess3678 ok I mean that’s still bad but I thought she had it I was about to say
@ace_1935 sorry🤣
its crazy because they all had different qualities that made them great individuals Normani had the most range in the group (you'd often hear her vocals paired with camilas Im songs), Camila and Lauren and ally had the most distinctive/unique vocals, Dinah and Ally had the strongest voices and Camila and ally's and Norman's vocals where the most consistent during live performances.
normanis vocals were not consistent during live performances, let’s be fr.
Exactly , also Camila’s whole personality , voice and song writing fit perfectly to a pop career that’s why she flourished
I followed them since x factor and normani was definitely not one of the most consistent vocally. She was always pitchy and/or flat. especially when they first started out.
@@aiden8111yes they were ! They would just lower her mic in a lot of performances that weren’t televised.. IYKYK..mani held togethercmodt of the harmonies!
@@tatum635pitchy? Let’s not lie ! Flat ? I could see where you get that Deron but that’s bc they sorest did get dirty with her mic snd her voice is not a belting one
The other girls had better vocals than Camila. The label decided to put her on the forefront cause she had a pop voice.
And she’s fair skin
Camila is a gorgeous fair-skinned Latina with a lovely pop voice... they put her on the forefront because she brought the most money. That's why the group basically tanked without her on it. Normani is the only one besides Camilla to have star-like qualities but is now horribly managed.
@@abdelhak_13I think it's mainly her youthful and cute looks bc if it's about her being a fair-skinned Latina, Lauren would've been popular as well. When Camila left, that clearly didn't work since she has a more mature aura and look.
Or she established the biggest fan base.
@@Littlebigrobert Most of the girls are fair skinned in the group. She was made the lead vocalist bc she had a unique and very distinctive voice which is a FACT. It wasn't about having the better voice. And It's based on vocal abilities alone. Normani is last place. Normani is a DANCER but not much of a singer. Lauren, Ally and Dinah were the far better vocalists of the group and Lauren is white AF with blue eyes
I love all the girls, but u have to see Camila's Performances .She knows how to put a show and work the crowd
So does Dinah Jane...
@@DDQ96Dinah was always out of breath. Camila and Normani were the best performers
@@tatum635 and you're still bringing out 2016 Dimah? Have you not seen her after camila left? She killed every camila's part.. She even took it to another level with real VOCALS. Y'all Dinah haters still with the same shit talking about breatb control. Tf
@@tatum635Camilla was always stiff. Dinah and Normani were literally the top 2 performers of fifth harmony. Out of breath or not lmao
@@DDQ96it’s different. You can tell. Camilla’s personality is just more…. Likeable? Like she just seems sweet as pumpkin pie
It is really not about talent or sounding good. Dinah was the most skilled vocally and we all saw the mistreatment she had. Camila was talented as well but also was the most fit for the industry and could easily be marketable. She was a fair skinned latina, skinny and had a unique voice.
Lauren is a far better singer than Camilla and she's very white lol. It wasn't about being fair skinned. Camilla had unique/distinctive tone just like T-Boyz in TLC, Kandi Burruss in Xscape or Slim in 112 AND she had the huge growing latino audience regardless of skin tone (latino is not a race) behind her
@@AngeBiampandou Well yeah it was said that Lauren was the first one approached by her label to have solo activities but she declined cz she didn't want it to conflict with the group. So she was clearly chosen first based on her looks and how marketable she is. All the members were ethnic but the woman of color mostly got the least exposure. Dinah is a polynesian/Pacific Islander , Normani is black , Ally is brown Mexican. So those 2 especially were the most loved by both the label and the fans
@@yazidboufous6541 not all are ethnic Lauren is white (latina isn't a race)
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@@kspecial8419camila is a white Latina was well
Camila wasn’t the best vocalist but she was the most consistent vocally. she was always on point in live shows and she def had a more pop voice. She also has a really likable personality that’s why she’s succeeded so much
Yah likeable when you ignore her racism
She ain't that likeable if she's racist 😐
@@jckholmes9194 ignorance aside, camilla really was the most likable in the group
During X factor each girl had a role to play Lauren was shown and supposed to be the leader of the group, Ally the big sister, Dinah the goofy one, Normani the diva and camila relatable fan girl. After that the label decided to put camila out most because she had most followers because of her relatability. She had the most lines in songs and most outspoken during interviews. I think the four really became Fifth Harmony once she left the group but the label of course screwed them over
Camilla’s twitter followers had almost passed the 5H account before she left.
When i was young, camila was the face of the group. She have that sexy-cute-girl image that always works to every popstars (like britney). That's why she kinda carried the group, then the label put her in the front of anyone like she is the beyonce.
But now she is not that girl anymore. Her looks kinda change & idk she kinda fall off. She looks different (not in a good way). Her music only a HIT on first album.
Lauren is so underrated 😢
No, Dee it’s not cause she “sounds good.” She was a cute little white Latina with a unique voice (not necessarily a good one, but that’s subjective) and marketable in that regard. Pretty simple explanation really.
"Cute little white Latina" 😭😭
@@idksis6851 The truth must be stated 😂
You spoke nothing but the truth
She is very pretty lets be honest but what she did was ugly
literally
personally i prefer camilas vocals but the other girls are also amazingly talented
i’d argue that Normani is the breakout star cause once she popped out Normani overshadowed everyone else
Not Camila though. Of the other 3, yeah.
@@j.4867 Camilla only has 2 hit songs and doesn’t perform. Normani has a hit every year with her annual song😂 and usually does yearly performances. also Normani isn’t racist
@@WavyGregg If racism was a factor Morgan Wallen wouldn't have one of the most successful albums of the year. If you check Camila's stats, Normani's don't come close and I like Normani more than Camila, but that's just facts.
@@WavyGregg I don’t like Camila but let’s bffr, normani barely releases every year. where is her 2020, 2022, or 2023 hits?
@@antbing1831 wild style, motivation, fair, dancing with a stranger ✊🏾
The thing is , Camila’s voice was the complete opposite of everyone else’s in the group , everyone had a soulful , creamy vocals meanwhile camila had a fast , high pitched and agile voice. It’s not chimpunk-like tho that’s an extreme example imo , they’re all good and have their individual strengths but her voice would stick out and draw attention even NOW camila goes viral for her parts in 5th harmony songs , she was the only perfect candidate for a pop career , even know in their solo career she’s the only one that makes pop music , this doesn’t mean the others are bad or anything , it’s just different strengths , different outcomes
Camila definitely wasn't the best vocalist in the group but she was the most "marketable" according to the label. It was so jarring because camila has a high pitched almost chipmunk voice where as the other girls had more raspy or soulful voices.
I mean look at Jojo Siwa , the kiddy bow look is very marketable.
Sometimes the most distinctive/unique tone of the group help sell more records. Think about Diana Ross, T-Boyz, Kandi Burruss in Xscape or Slim from 112. Every lead singers isn't always the one with the most vocal range like MJ or Beyoncé and other groups. It's a lot of other factors. The public also relates to the youngest more when they are age differences as well. MJ was the youngest, Justin Timberlake was the youngest as well even tho JC was stronger vocally. They both were co-leading and had strong stage presence and could dance (JT being the better dancer tho). But Justin was younger and basically was in charge of their last album in terms of artistic direction. He brought Pharrell on Gone Girl and the rest is history and he was forming a couple with Britney who was the 'it girl". The girls were obssessed with him
I mean camila also had the most solo fans , she was the “relatable one “ she was a one direction and Taylor swift superfan so fans were drawn to her on top of her distinct voice , and when she got most of the attention ofc she was put in the front even though she had no decision in that
Camila I believe had more IG followers than the Fifth Harmony account did at one point. She was quirky, relatable, and likeable. Her song with MGK was a hit. And it allowed her to be successful outside the group. She vocals aren’t the best, but they are MEMORABLE. No one else sounds like her. They all auditioned as solo. So by the end of their 2nd album, she dipped. Rightfully so. Hell I would’ve done the same.
@@platinumgreyx8976 Well she’s flopped now so can’t be that memorable lol also it’s the way HOW she left that made the other girls upset. She pure left when 5H was at its peak. What she did was selfish and now her career is paying the price for what she did.
It’s been half a decade since normani said her album and title was done… the sabotage from her old team (and allegedly her new team) is real 😣😫😩😔
I found some of her songs that were scrapped before they could get released and now I'm mad cause I absolutely loved two of them and put them on my playlist. One was flagged and removed from RUclips by the uploader but the other is still there. It's sabotage for sure if she had that potential.
How is her new team saboting her ? How many excuses we are going to give her at this point ?
Apparently her mom has cancer and that’s the reason why she hasn’t been as active
@@icegodsavior8885both parents had cancer
Normani sabotages herself too... She doesn't even promote herself
I feel like with her being a fan favorite at the time, that was also a reason why they pushed her to be the main everything so hard, marketing purposes ofc
I think Camila is the most commercial artist and that’s all it came down to. She was the money maker. If it was about whiteness like some are saying why wouldn’t they have pushed Lauren more? She didn’t have a bad voice , and is definitely whiter then Camila.
they did, but she declined from the start
@@yazidboufous6541 source?
They tried but Lauren declined doing that
@@thatoneweirdkidthatyoudisl6723 again, source?
@@princessd7309 I mean you could look it up.
i dont get the hate towards camila and her voice tbh. She had the best ad libs out of everyone in the group and imo some of the best ad libs ive ever heard in music in general. the girl can instantly turn a good song into a masterpiece. i love me some soulful and powerful voices but for pop music specifically camila was spot on
Her voice is just too nasally and would ruin majority of the harmonies.
@@ITEEZ- what harmonies tho? like genuinely so confused also not trying to be disrespectful in anyway just curious
@@gaivnmi5480 you clearly are trying to be rude. Playing dumb. Not even going to entertain the ignorance especially when RUclips is free.
@@ITEEZ-her voice isn't even nasally anymore, have y'all heard her solo songs? Her voice is literally so raspy
@@janafantasy9461 🧢
Lauren was the one standing out to me the most looking wise and voice wise
But all the girls had better vocals than Camila
It's just because she has a voice that fit pop music at that time, that's it. It's like how there was a whole era where everybody tried to sing like Halsey (that really annoying "italic" accent) because that was what was marketable at that time.
You mean *rihanna lol
Labels have been desperately tryna create a new Rihanna since LOUD.
Y’all in the comments so desperately want it to be a “race” thing and it’s embarrassing. The argument doesn’t hold up when there was a lighter skinned girl in the group who most agreed had a better voice. This victim to the system mindset is cringy asf
I blame the music industry, for overshadowed the others. For making Camila the cash cow, that’s all she really is.
She nothing but a money maker for them.
I just think Camila a backstabber diva, who try to be better than the other girls.
Yes! It maybe industry who made Normani, Ally, Lauren and Dinah less important in the group. But I think Camila still stuck up diva, thinking that she is better than all of them.
But she not that great of a singer, Ally or Dinah should of a successful solo career. Not Camila, I can’t stand her or her singing. All she is screaming her lung out.
The only song I know by Camila is Havana and that song got on my nerves! They overplayed it. I know more songs from Lauren, Dinah and Normani because they are the more “R&B” type singers. Ally is good too but I only know one of her songs too and that’s because Tyga was on it 😫
I'm almost convinced that Dee chooses to travel right when some songs go viral. I involuntarily heard Havana by her almost hourly when it came out.
Victoria aka "Posh Spice" got married with David Beckham in the late 90s. She is the one who elevated his image and brand and pretty turned him into a sex symbol worlwide and they are one of the biggesr power couple of the past 20 years. She is a fashion and designer and he is a retired British football legend
I used to defend Normani but theres no use in believing in someone who doesn’t even believe in themselves
camila definitely had the whiniest voice in the group. no hate but im still not entirely sure how she ended up out front
Their label put her upfront cause she had a pop voice even tho the other girls vocals were better.
Camilla had the best voice in the group
@@LovelyAriyah Maybe if you’re tone deaf. Her voice will never compare to the powerhouse soulfulness of Dinah, or the range/agility of Ally, or the sultry/raspiness of Lauren’s, or the smooth velevety tone of Normani. Her voice easily becomes the most annoying to listen to.
@@SaidByTy no your death tone the rest of fifth harmony fell off after the group ended nobody listens to there shit music… Camilla was actually on the maps after fifth harmony unlike the rest of the group they have not one hit song Camilla has tons of hit songs .. the rest of the group are flops 🥰
@@SaidByTy and still nobody listens to them 🥰😘😛
I hate that Camila's voice was shoved down our throats, half the time her vocals weren't that good.
her vocals made me cringe so bad but they grew on me. i feel like dinah and normani had the best vocals all around
@@OfficialCaiteit’s not just about vocals. It’s about overall star quality and ‘it’ factor. Camila had that and that’s why she was pushed. That’s life you gotta compete otherwise others will shine over you.
@@OfficialCaitethey were literally 17yo she was still trying to discover her sound so obviously someone her vocals wont be on point but I still disagree I think its a taste thing but her vocals are powerful specially live on more quiet songs
One of the funniest things I find about them trying to push out Camila as the star is, long ago she had a pr relationship with Austin Mahone, partly filmed on awesomeness TV but if u watch the videos u can clearly tell he was WAAYYY MORE into normani and they had more in common😭😭😭.
If you do a vid reactions to about 2-3 of their music videos you will literally hear camila majority of the time. She had all those back up vocals, the runs , the main parts. You’ll notice in songs like work from home, boss, & that’s my girl. Even in almost all of their songs you’ll think she was the lead singer. I’m looking forward to more on this topic, it seems a lot of ppl didn’t know the spotlight was on her when I noticed it all the way back on X factor lol. Some of her songs are Señorita ft Shawn Mendes, crying in the club, Havana, & a song with MGK, crying in the club you’ll have to skip like 2min into the intro bc it’s a preview of another song at the beginning.
Yup even on the xfactor she stood out alot
Watch fifth harmony's Xfactor version of 'Impossible' its more than obvious Camilla had a distinctive, pretty voice.
As talented as Normani is, I see what it is and this why I've always said the music industry isn't just about talent and is a scam. They cherry pick who they want to succeed. Normani jumped all the hurdles. She's got talent, beauty, performing, personality, and stage presence. And everytime she knocks it out the park, they put another obstacle infront of her. She's just a dark skinned black girl that they didn't want to market or push and that's it.
Normani hasn’t dropped an album since the group broke up so what do y mean… she literally has 3 megahits
As someone whos been rooting for Normani since she was on DWTS and prior, I see why she hasnt really succeeded compared to Camilla and others like a Sza. Its hard to connect with Normani on a deeper level that isnt just music related. That perhaps couldve worked in the 90s and even early 2000s, but youre not getting by on just your music alone. Beyonce is BARELY getting by on just music and ive been a beyhive for years!! Normani has the beauty, and stage presence (kinda) she just dances, doesnt really interact or connect with the crowd/audience. I think its way more than 'they just didnt want to push her' Something about Normani is just not there....That IT factor is lacking.
normani coulda been something great if her label let her put out any music
Camila has vocals idc
Camila wasn’t even the most talented vocally in the group by any means. She was marketable tho.
I love her and she deserve that
Dinah Jane is my favourite voice of the group , pls react to her latest song called ya ya
Dee u def should look up for her, she did repost some stupid meme, but camila is not what the internet paint her to be
Multiple hits like: Havana, señorita, Bam bam, my oh my, etc etc ❤
i cant stand camilas voice and the way she sings
and that whole cinderella movie really solidified my feelings about her singing voice
i only like one song by her and i can only listen to the slowed reverb version
Camila had the best look, the most unique voice, and overall presence - it is referred to as “the it factor”. Normanda-or whatever her name was - can’t just get that from watching a bunch of RUclips videos trying to teach herself to sing. Regardless, Camilas tend to end laughing all the way to the bank at the end.
as much as i love normani she rlly gave & gives us nothing.. music wise. however camila had/has a unique voice and it she shouldnt of been in the band in the first place her voice stuck out too much she should of been a solo artist. and camila released very good songs so i get why she overshadowed them all
Normani & Dinah Jane are 🔥🔥🔥
The other girls could ousting camila she has a squeaky voice but it’s suited for pop
You should react to Fifth Harmony’s live vocals to hear all the girls sing and determine which you think is the strongest! Just not the video posted by PopCrush 😅
Tbh they did low key kicked her out the group bc of her comments n stuff n it seemed like camila wanted to leave anyways my thing is they was being shady towards her when she left n den Camilla started rising to fame with her songs
I think you should look up each one of their songs individually
Camilla: shameless
Lauren: expectations
Norman : Motivation or dancing with a stranger
Ally: lips don’t lie
Dinah : heard it all before
But it’s too bad how the other girls didn’t get as big but had talent like Dinah is my fav
I’m pretty you have heard some of Camilas songs without noticing. On regards of the racist comments she was young, most of people make racist comments without thinking or knowing the context of the words.
JUSTICE FOR NORMANI.
There was so so much hype on Normani in 2017-2019. She dropped the ball HARD. So many people co-signed her. Had her back. She was/is an ambassador for Rihanna’s Savage Fenty. She has been solo for 5-6 yrs…. And STILL NO DEBUT ALBUM. What is she doing
Dinah was the best singer by miles, Normani was the best dancer by miles, but Camila fit the basic white girl mold (along with being able to sing a lil bit (emphasis on lil))
I love that regardless of all this negative energy and envy towards Camila, she has already released 3 albums and won several awards around the world! You may not appreciate your voice, but millions more love to hear it!
I mean it's an acquired taste. Many people may dislike it but others love it. Hearing her voice personally gives me a headache because of her tone and the nasal sound, but then again, with people like Halsey who cursive sing and also have easily made fun of voices, there's always an audience in the market for that sound.
Camila was the one who put in the work. She was born to be a pop star, the others weren’t.
Camila didn’t work that as much as the other, she just got lucky and was put front and centre. After she got an offer to go career, she took and stabs the others in the back.
@@Sammy.H.Redwood She didnt stab anyone in the back. They were already jealous/hating on her BEFORE she left. Real 5h fans know this. Before Camilla officially left the other 4 would always leave her out of group activites/parties etc. She was just different and thats ok
@@JessAnonymous Yeah, she did.
Camilla isn't a good singer.
T-Boz has a very unique tone. She's not a great singer and alot of people don't like her voice but hee voice is what makes them stand out. Chili could've been any other singer because alot of singers have similar voices.
As far as Britney Spears, the industry made her sing like that. Britney can actually belt and has a much better voice than her music shows.
Groups tend to break up because of the inequality involved.
There's always at least one singer of a group that has an amazing voice but is put in the background.
When it comes to Beyonce and Destiny's child the original group could ALL sing. But as soon as 2 of the members wanted different management, that was it.
Once they kicked Farrah out and it was Beyonce, Kelly and Michelle, like Beyonce said in that clip, everyone could sing lead because they COULD sing.
Look at Danity Kane. They all sung lead but Shannon was definitely more of a background singer even though she could sing.
But we know whatever group Puff puts together he makes sure to somehow break apart.
You saying britney has a better voice is crazy lmao camila outsings her with ease
I just don’t think American girl groups were domestically marketable in the early 2010s. All of the girls should’ve been pushed to prioritize individual/external projects while they were at the height of popularity. I honestly think that “putting the group first” is what ultimately causes conflicts between artists and stifles their careers.
lol I used to love me some 5H 😭😂
it's not camila's fault that she came out in the top because she was chosen as the main one and for ppl saying she's white latina excuse me but her skin color doesn't define her ethnicity its a fact that she's mexican/cuban.
normani had the chance to be mainstream but she didn't put out any music :/
lauren always has AMAZING music but I don't think she wants to be mainstream she likes being simple.
for the rest Idk tbh I didn't follow recently what they do but all am saying is its been 7 years at this point they either make it in the music business or not and camila deserves every ounce of success
She is a white Latina :)
@@SaidByTy and you're sad and racist
@@SaidByTy so is Lauren you idiot. You’ve literally commented “she’s a white Latina” under EVERY thread. Bro just stfu and move on it’s clearly because her voice was the most unique. Oh and FYI, almost every popular artist in the industry right now is mixed/black so hop off and sit down.
@@SaidByTyOop, clock that tea
their label screwed them ALL over and abused them daily including camila who left first obviously because she had no freedom to write music which she loves the most, she got the most backlash because that's what happens when you leave the group first you're viewed as the one who ruined them but the truth is that their label is responsible for what happened
Camila Cabello reminds me of early Brittany Spears. That raspy nasaly ick sound.
Honestly they were never going to be a fully cohesive group because they were forced to be together by a reality tv show competition. They weren't like friends from the same hometown, or girls who went to the same school and were in the same afterschool vocal club. They were just five strangers crammed together by a show.
If your gonna listen to a Camila song you should listen to Havana or shameless
camila is a hard worker … the rest of the members are just lazy. and normani is a good dancer that’s all
She isn’t a hard working person, people in the industry made her fame. Nothing she did what made her a superstar, the other girls work hard to to make their dream come true.
But the music industry made Camila, their money maker and cash cow.
Why does the title say over Normani when she can’t dance or sing as good as Normani. Let’s cut it out
Britney can actually sing she just put that baby voice on because the labels wanted her to
No Britney definitely can’t sing. Britney used to be a slightly below AVERAGE singer, and after all the damage she’s done to her voice she can’t sing at all now. We literally had her screaming in her bathroom last year calling it singing remember?
“really? multiple hits? where are they?” i hate you 😭😭😭
Normani is a fantastic dancer, but she could barely sing in the group and just never stood out...she was just...There. Lauren was the 'break out' IT girly after Camilla tbh Camilla always had that quirky personality which makes her more relatable and people draw to her. Camilla was my fav on the Xfactor, then after she left the group (cause the other girls were lowkey jealous she got all the attention) the other 4 and their fans were hating on camila
her name is pronounced CaMEEla CabeYO not CaMillUh CaBello. it's a spanish name and different from "Camilla" so it doesn't sound the same. Edit: Camila became the most marketed member because a lot of fifth harmony fans found her the funniest. Originally (better together era) they intended to market Lauren as the face of the group but switched to Camila after her popularity grew. Her distinct voice also helped. Camila's consistency with live vocals also helped. Their Kelly & Michael performance kind of showed that she had better breath control than everyone else.
Camila mic always on ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
“I don’t like her voice” then continues to sing her song 😂
reminds me of dreamgirls for some reason
honestly it might be more profitable for her to be a celebrity instead of a musician
Her voice is nasally AF. I still can’t say Norman is better than any one of them tbh because I still have yet to hear her sing sing. For sure Dinah Jane’s music that she has out are bangers I personally love R&B and her ish hits lyrically. Ally Brooke is basic she sounds like every other pop star her music is very teen bop , Lauren’s fist few solo music hits hard if you like that emotional music expectations is what I listen to when I want to let my husband know he’s being “unkind”… NormanI I have only heard motivation but I didn’t really feel her range there. I wish them all success I mean I think it’s time to replace Taylor Swift (annoying AF broad) and Olivia Rodrigo
You haven’t heard Havana by camila😊
it's the way i couldn't listen and enjoy a full song by them until she left because i couldn't stand her voice...
Camila is marketable.
Y’all in the comments are really rude and gross…let’s be honest here Camila was an incredible singer and if y’all wanna say that the other girls in the group were better singers than her how did Camila continue with her solo career striving immensely while the other girls didn’t as solo artists…Camila was the main singer not only cuz she had a unique voice but cuz she had immense voice stability and incredibly vocal technique…there are multiple times in 5th harmony live performances where the other girl seem tired and out of breath while camila still has a stable voice…and abt y’all hating on Camila’s voice,y’all are tripping…there’s been multiple professional vocal coaches that have praised Camila on her beautiful voice and immense vocal technique so y’all are just haters…and not to mention that as soon as Camila left the group 5th harmony’s career fell off and that’s when all the other girls started going solo too
I don’t think Camila was that incredible of a singer, she’s just a decent one. I think Lauren or Ally were the incredible one.
@@o_huskywolfdean7 if she wasn’t an incredible singer how are vocal coaches praising her?! And if she wasn’t a great singer why did Fifth Harmony go downhill when she left?! Like let’s be honest with ourselves here…when Camilla left 5H’s live performances we’re trash cuz Camila was the only one with a stable voice and that could consistently hit the high notes
@@sofiaspetsieris6799 Because the label made her into a star, as she nothing but cash cow money maker. While they ruined the other four girls dream.
@@o_huskywolfdean7 ok that's fine so why is everyone specifically bashing Camila?! It's not her fault that the company did that
@@o_huskywolfdean7 and u also completely just ignored the part that vocal coaches praise Camila's vocals...what do u got to say abt that?
camilla is a white skinny latina so yeah she was the most marketable
All the fault is on their label it was awful
Camila's name is pronounced camEELa cabeYo
It's annoying Lauren and normani have more talent than camilla and her Minnie mouse voice! Dinah too!
Camila's voice is grating, not sorry. She sings high, that's all. Singing high notes does not make you the best.
Have you heard Havana by Camilla
Really she can’t sing. Vocally it goes
Dinah and ally
Lauren
Camila
Normani
@@vikkidonn Not subjective.
Wether you like the tone of their voices or not is subjective, but Ally and Dinah are the best vocalists out of the bunch by a pretty long shot.
But then again, you're right in saying that Ally and Dinah are probably the least marketable ones.
They still talking about Camilla's rcst azz?