Nate hits it out of the park again! Agree on Bronson, I have two articles from them. The denim hunting vest cleaves quite closely to that shown in the A&F catalog. At the moment, I'm wearing one of your white cotton shirts on a video shoot in the woods. What Price Glory is a good source for jeans as their 1919 fatigue trousers are patterned off of period commercial jeans. Waiting on those wool shirts to cone out.
It sounds like typical issues of "cheap" import clothing, especially stuff that's supposed to be period correct. There's starting to be a tad of that in the mountain man rendezvous stuff as well, but fortunately most of us that are into the mountain man period can make our own clothing so at least for now the import stuff isn't making much headway. Good reviews, have a great day!
Obviously, I am partial to my own company, Logsdon & Co. Also, I would recommend any civilian and civilian-use military goods from What Price Glory. For earlier period stuff, South Union Mills has some good things. I can recommend certain articles from Hamilton Dry Goods and Frontier Classics, though not everything they carry is correct for 20th century. You can also occasionally find good stuff made on the old styles from L.L. Bean, Goodfellows, and Red Head, but you really have to know what you're looking at. See my other clothing-related videos to learn what is correct for your time period.
Any time you see a FB ad for clothing, always do a reverse image search. As far as Beotyshow and Rengar go, they both use stolen photos from legitimate companies. The Mackinaw is from Buzz Rickson and at least some of the Rengar pics are from a hat maker in Germany, I can't say all as I didn't go through their whole catalog. While I don't personally own any Bronson stuff, I know several people that do, and have personally handled some of their selvedge denim pants and they are solid.
How can you say that Bronson selling specialist style jeans for $50 is pricey? And I don't think anywhere you can get made in America / UK / West Europe for that price.
Sorry, not those jeans particularly, but they have items on their website that are, such as cotton work shirts that are $150. Sorry I wasn't clear there.
You get what you pay for. I'm on some historybounding/reenacting/etc. kinds of groups and there are endless questions about where can you get really nicely made, historically-accurate stuff but for cheap (occasionally they throw in "fair-trade" or "sustainable" or "American-made" to complicate things). And the answer to that is that you learn to sew it yourself.
This is exactly what I've been looking for! It's so tough to find period fashion that can be trusted nowadays. Do you have any books you'd recommend for learning about fashion, or other aspects about the early 20th century?
@stealthiestboy there are some great Facebook groups, such as "Early 20th Century Sportsman" that have some very knowledgeable folks. You can also look up original clothing advertisements from the period. Vintagedancer.com has a lot of good images. There are also a mountain of books written in this period. These don't have great pictures, but do have excellent descriptions and gives you lots of great stuff to Google.
I appreciate the heads up. It's good to be aware that the pictures may not show what you're getting. But regarding the hat you bought. Here the price alone should have tipped you off. Proper men's dress hats are much more expensive wherever they come from. Even just wool felt homburg hats would be at least triple what you paid. And if you go to fur felt it is double wool felt price. You spent no more on first pair of trousers you shown than you would on a pair or retail blue jeans (of name brand). Think about period piece items as costume, unless you've explored the company. But specialty clothing will cost more than regular clothing because much less of it will be made and sold. And most of the market for that is stage costume, which typically gets little wear.
Very true. That said, I am trying to produce some good quality stuff myself that is made on period patterns or taken from extant garments. I'm doing everything I can to make quality and authenticity more affordable. Of course, the materials aren't cheap, and quality does cost a bit more, but the mark of quality doesn't have to correlate to price. At least that's what I'm trying to do with Logsdonandco.com.
@@20thcenturyadventures Good luck! It seems to me there is a market for period clothes, and once you're known for good work, people will happily pay more than they would for costume stuff.
@janerkenbrack3373 well, I am also doing this for the good of the hobby, and not as my primary income. I'm basically making enough profit to reinvest in new products and fund cool purchases for this RUclips channel. Lol! Thankfully, I have a great job. At one time, I subsisted entirely on reenactment income, and times were tough!
@@GuyFierisShirt you're not the first to mention that, and it's something I am trying to figure out. At 5'6" myself, tall sizing is a mystery to me! Lol!
That people want to go find Heritage clothing but they want to save money and get it made in these questionable jurisdictions by children by children. Buying high quality clothing is not about what it costs it's about how it's made once you lose sight of that or believe online garbage marketing which anybody can lie about you are now a victim and not worthy of the clothing you're wearing
Im no longer active in American Civil War reenacting but a few years ago I started hearing reports to avoid Pakistani made uniforms, overcoat, boots and accoutrements. At first glance from a distance they might look fine but the wool was paper thin polyester, bad stitching, terrible low quality leather, incorrect copies and just plain shoddy. Im sure they wouldn't hold up to the mysteries of a soldiers life for more than a season or two. I wouldnt want to depend on a greatcoat during a cold winter event with snow and wind wearing paper thin polyester to keep me warm even in a static camp and around a campfire.
Honestly, it all boils down to the amount of work the American importers are willing to do. In 25 years of reenacting, I've seen some really great imported stuff, and I've seen absolute garbage. If a company sends three photos to an overseas manufacturer and doesn't give any other directions other than "make it as cheap as possible", they're going to get garbage. On the other hand, if you send a 30-page PDF with 250 photos, drawings, and patterns, accurate dimensions in METRIC, and specify the exact materials to be used, then spend several months mailing swatches and samples back and forth, real quality CAN be had from overseas. It also requires a manufacturer who is willing to go to that trouble. The problem is that the American importer, and the foreign manufacturer generally both want maximum profit with minimal expense or effort. That's why most imported stuff is junk. Ethnicity and country of origin has no effect on skill and talent. However, money talks.
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Nate hits it out of the park again! Agree on Bronson, I have two articles from them. The denim hunting vest cleaves quite closely to that shown in the A&F catalog. At the moment, I'm wearing one of your white cotton shirts on a video shoot in the woods. What Price Glory is a good source for jeans as their 1919 fatigue trousers are patterned off of period commercial jeans. Waiting on those wool shirts to cone out.
Wool shirts will hit very soon! They are on their way!
It sounds like typical issues of "cheap" import clothing, especially stuff that's supposed to be period correct. There's starting to be a tad of that in the mountain man rendezvous stuff as well, but fortunately most of us that are into the mountain man period can make our own clothing so at least for now the import stuff isn't making much headway. Good reviews, have a great day!
👍 Very interesting. Thanks for the warning, it is helpful.
What American companies would you recommend? Thanks
Obviously, I am partial to my own company, Logsdon & Co. Also, I would recommend any civilian and civilian-use military goods from What Price Glory. For earlier period stuff, South Union Mills has some good things. I can recommend certain articles from Hamilton Dry Goods and Frontier Classics, though not everything they carry is correct for 20th century. You can also occasionally find good stuff made on the old styles from L.L. Bean, Goodfellows, and Red Head, but you really have to know what you're looking at. See my other clothing-related videos to learn what is correct for your time period.
Any time you see a FB ad for clothing, always do a reverse image search. As far as Beotyshow and Rengar go, they both use stolen photos from legitimate companies. The Mackinaw is from Buzz Rickson and at least some of the Rengar pics are from a hat maker in Germany, I can't say all as I didn't go through their whole catalog. While I don't personally own any Bronson stuff, I know several people that do, and have personally handled some of their selvedge denim pants and they are solid.
Yeah, I haven't been disappointed with anything I've seen out of Bronson, except that their fabrics are thin.
How can you say that Bronson selling specialist style jeans for $50 is pricey? And I don't think anywhere you can get made in America / UK / West Europe for that price.
Sorry, not those jeans particularly, but they have items on their website that are, such as cotton work shirts that are $150. Sorry I wasn't clear there.
That tag is hilarious 😂
You get what you pay for. I'm on some historybounding/reenacting/etc. kinds of groups and there are endless questions about where can you get really nicely made, historically-accurate stuff but for cheap (occasionally they throw in "fair-trade" or "sustainable" or "American-made" to complicate things). And the answer to that is that you learn to sew it yourself.
This is exactly what I've been looking for! It's so tough to find period fashion that can be trusted nowadays. Do you have any books you'd recommend for learning about fashion, or other aspects about the early 20th century?
@stealthiestboy there are some great Facebook groups, such as "Early 20th Century Sportsman" that have some very knowledgeable folks. You can also look up original clothing advertisements from the period. Vintagedancer.com has a lot of good images. There are also a mountain of books written in this period. These don't have great pictures, but do have excellent descriptions and gives you lots of great stuff to Google.
I appreciate the heads up. It's good to be aware that the pictures may not show what you're getting.
But regarding the hat you bought. Here the price alone should have tipped you off. Proper men's dress hats are much more expensive wherever they come from. Even just wool felt homburg hats would be at least triple what you paid. And if you go to fur felt it is double wool felt price.
You spent no more on first pair of trousers you shown than you would on a pair or retail blue jeans (of name brand).
Think about period piece items as costume, unless you've explored the company. But specialty clothing will cost more than regular clothing because much less of it will be made and sold. And most of the market for that is stage costume, which typically gets little wear.
Very true. That said, I am trying to produce some good quality stuff myself that is made on period patterns or taken from extant garments. I'm doing everything I can to make quality and authenticity more affordable. Of course, the materials aren't cheap, and quality does cost a bit more, but the mark of quality doesn't have to correlate to price. At least that's what I'm trying to do with Logsdonandco.com.
@@20thcenturyadventures Good luck! It seems to me there is a market for period clothes, and once you're known for good work, people will happily pay more than they would for costume stuff.
@janerkenbrack3373 well, I am also doing this for the good of the hobby, and not as my primary income. I'm basically making enough profit to reinvest in new products and fund cool purchases for this RUclips channel. Lol! Thankfully, I have a great job. At one time, I subsisted entirely on reenactment income, and times were tough!
I wish your site had tall sizes, the products seem nice, but unwearable on my 6'3 frame.
@@GuyFierisShirt you're not the first to mention that, and it's something I am trying to figure out. At 5'6" myself, tall sizing is a mystery to me! Lol!
That people want to go find Heritage clothing but they want to save money and get it made in these questionable jurisdictions by children by children. Buying high quality clothing is not about what it costs it's about how it's made once you lose sight of that or believe online garbage marketing which anybody can lie about you are now a victim and not worthy of the clothing you're wearing
Im no longer active in American Civil War reenacting but a few years ago I started hearing reports to avoid Pakistani made uniforms, overcoat, boots and accoutrements. At first glance from a distance they might look fine but the wool was paper thin polyester, bad stitching, terrible low quality leather, incorrect copies and just plain shoddy. Im sure they wouldn't hold up to the mysteries of a soldiers life for more than a season or two. I wouldnt want to depend on a greatcoat during a cold winter event with snow and wind wearing paper thin polyester to keep me warm even in a static camp and around a campfire.
Honestly, it all boils down to the amount of work the American importers are willing to do. In 25 years of reenacting, I've seen some really great imported stuff, and I've seen absolute garbage. If a company sends three photos to an overseas manufacturer and doesn't give any other directions other than "make it as cheap as possible", they're going to get garbage. On the other hand, if you send a 30-page PDF with 250 photos, drawings, and patterns, accurate dimensions in METRIC, and specify the exact materials to be used, then spend several months mailing swatches and samples back and forth, real quality CAN be had from overseas. It also requires a manufacturer who is willing to go to that trouble. The problem is that the American importer, and the foreign manufacturer generally both want maximum profit with minimal expense or effort. That's why most imported stuff is junk. Ethnicity and country of origin has no effect on skill and talent. However, money talks.
Quality outdoor gear gets screen scraped and used for advertising cheap, poor imitations.
Boreal Mountain Anoraks was a victim of this last year.
Don’t buy Chinese