This is an absolute legendary episode. Blows me away this only has 69k view. Master mind HD Moore telling the story of his creation of one of the most renowned pentesting softwares.
Found your channel a few weeks ago and have enjoyed all of your shows. I was one of the early "hackers" that got started using my computer to dial every local phone number and see if I could find a modem. I had a red box (radio shack dialer with a 6.5536mhz crystal swap) and got in quote a bit of trouble for exploiting the credit system. I can relate to a lot of the stories you've shared.
This is a great interview! I didn't read the title because I was walking my dog and I was very surprised to hear from the creator of metasploit and he's mindset towards it. I think he's way of thinking is a good way that revolutionised the way we have pentest jobs. I think it's good he is a advocate for not criminalising because it keeps a balance of Jing and Jang! ❤ Great work Jack!
Just got done hearing all this. And now I have a new appreciation for Metalsploit. Used it all through out the IBM course. Professionally certified and working! Jack you've always got amazing humor or niche puns at the end of your shows. But this time it came about from HD himself. No comments in code does make it harder to understand.... Keep up the awesome life dude.
Thank you Jack for this legendary episode with the well-known hacker HD Moore I always enjoy listening this episode again and again, it's just captivating and exciting. Moreover, i really appreciate the way you explain technical things in a such understanable way that even a person with non IT background could listen to any of your podcasts from the beginning all the way through to the end without getting bored.
He is just writing software. The software is an exploitation framework that's open source. It requires a computer to use it. Why should he be the villain when bad actors are misusing computers to misuse other computers? He might be selling bullets, but no ammunition manufacturer goes to jail for selling bullets for guns, and gun violence is much more violent than computer crime.
Right, its not illegal to sell guns either, its illegal to knowingly sell to bad actors. Intent matters a lot around the law... I wish the law around this stuff would be more clearly defined.
Microsoft: We made a tool! HP: your tool has flaws and is being used by bad guys. Microsoft: Not our problem HP: Fix it or I show the world that you are untrustworthy HP: I made a tool Government: Your tool is flawed and being used by bad guys HP: Not my responsibility
people who commit crimes with weapons do not blame the weapons creator; Therefore, Dev's who create Penetration Tools should not be blamed when a bad actor uses their tools.
I was QA way back in the day (including on M$FT products) and it blows my mind how much *worse* things have gotten. Testing should not be done after a product has been released into the wild. Effing Welch business model is largely responsable for all this.
I still use MSDN or whatever MS calls it today. It was technet. Then MSDN. Then now Visual Studio Subscription. Depending on your version, you get all is and software license and even enterprise keys to setup KMS servers and exchange and office 365 and all server os. And all past stuff like win95 keys and up, Microsoft POS (v 1.0, I don't think they fully launched it) and every office version and such. Thousands of keys
53:24 right, and how about if you publish a cookie recipe and criminals start making cookies filled with poison, and you get arrested about the, the cookie now is a weapon. What if someone collects all your cut nails and make a weapon out of it, you will go to jail for distributing your nails :D :D.
Thank you for this, but ... As a non-native speaker I experienced big difficulties to understand what HD is saying 😞 He speaks very fast, without any breaks in between words, and - to add to my misery - microphone or its settings caused that voice was additionally disturbed 😕
If it is most important how a tool is used and not intentions of a producer or creator - then why weapon designers and manufacturers are not sued along somebody who robbed a bank using their gun?? 😲 Without this gun this would not be possible ... So, if HD and community behind Metasploit, may be 'guilty' of delivering a tool which may be used by 'bad guys' to hack to some system and steal money or intellectual property (despite its intention is opposite - to test system and prevent 'bad guys' from getting in) - the more gun producers should be guilty of any victim suffered from their product!!
It's funny how things with some of the most value or importance are hated by all of the people in power on all sides. Glad they didn't win this time ❤ 🤘 🔥
there are people who go to church like it is religion every weekend. and there are those who listen to Jack Rhysider preach every week like it is religion.
Hacking software can be likened to gun manufacturers. Why is it ok to sell guns that kill people and not be held liable but releasing software that can hurt people or even kill people is illegal?
OFF TOPIC UMB QUESTIONS TO ANY PPL THAT BOTHERS READING THIS: For one, thank you for sparing a moment of your most valuable commodity. Your time. I assure you this is just my wondering about a network of acdifferent kind. The water system networks. Its one thing that ee are all hopefully now eell aware that many colleges and Universities that churned out the same "experts" who either personally published or took the information published as being credible, yet wasnt as it turns out. That much of those papers published were based on fabrications. So I point thatvout to say aldo that that is ehat even the eater systems in place whose experts say the piping used is durable for "X" amount of time. Not counting sll yhe variables yhstvthst estimation can entail. As in, its gotta hugely by flawed. My questions are ehen is the last time you had the plumbing in your home/apr get inspected or replaced? Orr even ehen has any of a homes, buildings, city/towns, counties, states waterpipe systems for yhat matter! Outside of if a natural disaster that requires it, when has anyone seen their waterpipe system be replaced??? Just a horrifying thought that in all honesty. Not counting in country weakness points that can for alls any country can truly know wont be how that terrorists attack. Unless you have heavy filtration, UV as well as and high frequency blast your water, you really have a ehole nother tangent of conspiracy of many conspiracies that that garners. Thats a whole nother lifetime of therapy that I for one do not have time or any money for, in this one for!! Just some points to ponder. 😮💨 And yes, this really is a level of Hell. The demons are yhe pridon giatds and yhose being killed isn for some war. Its really a blood sacrifice. 👋🏼🤪 Have s good rest of your day!!!
Holy shit rerouting traffic to get the botnet to ddos itself is absolute fucking genius, that is so funny
Genuine lol moment
I chucked irl lol
Where was this in the episode?
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aInwas just thinking that!
That thumbnail is cool. Never thought I'd see RJ45 dragons fighting 😅
I think he makes Everything himself! Graphics, music , storytelling… or it sounded like it from his interviews back in the day… very talented!
how do you know they're fighting?
I would buy a t-shirt with these dragons on it
@@zapjunkiei think there’s a t-shirt in his shop with that rj cable dragon
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This is an absolute legendary episode. Blows me away this only has 69k view. Master mind HD Moore telling the story of his creation of one of the most renowned pentesting softwares.
Absolutely love how simple this channel is. Good audio and video quality, concise, useful descriptions, and a consistent aesthetic.
Jack's way of presenting is what I love.
Found your channel a few weeks ago and have enjoyed all of your shows. I was one of the early "hackers" that got started using my computer to dial every local phone number and see if I could find a modem. I had a red box (radio shack dialer with a 6.5536mhz crystal swap) and got in quote a bit of trouble for exploiting the credit system. I can relate to a lot of the stories you've shared.
One of those Legendary episodes.
ALL HAIL THE METASPLOIT GOD HD!
This is a great interview!
I didn't read the title because I was walking my dog and I was very surprised to hear from the creator of metasploit and he's mindset towards it.
I think he's way of thinking is a good way that revolutionised the way we have pentest jobs.
I think it's good he is a advocate for not criminalising because it keeps a balance of Jing and Jang! ❤ Great work Jack!
The production value and visuals are always top notch.. guys lets like this video
Just got done hearing all this. And now I have a new appreciation for Metalsploit. Used it all through out the IBM course. Professionally certified and working! Jack you've always got amazing humor or niche puns at the end of your shows. But this time it came about from HD himself. No comments in code does make it harder to understand.... Keep up the awesome life dude.
Which course? Found it…
HD Moore is lovingly humble. An honor to hear him speak and he has a beautiful voice.
I keep listening to the old episodes while i wait for new ones!!
Thank you Jack for this legendary episode with the well-known hacker HD Moore
I always enjoy listening this episode again and again, it's just captivating and exciting.
Moreover, i really appreciate the way you explain technical things in a such understanable way that even a person with non IT background could listen to any of your podcasts from the beginning all the way through to the end without getting bored.
Your thumbnail art is something else, thanks for the great stories:)
HOLY COW WHAT A GOLDMINE OF AN INTERVIEW!
I am beside myself!
Your work is amazing, Jack. You're the guy who I can't believe isn't more widely known. Hope you enjoy the eventual wave
🔥 Been waiting for someone to do a video on this! Love the work you do Jack!
Thank you for your contribution HD Moore and Jack.
Oh man, what a throwback! i remember letting tone-loc run overnight finding modems in my area code. phrack IRC was legendary!
that Metasploit reveal was awesome, I didn't read the description but know about Metasploit
Jack , your content is amazing! Thank you. It baffles me tho how you haven't got like a zillion subscribers 😂
He is just writing software. The software is an exploitation framework that's open source. It requires a computer to use it. Why should he be the villain when bad actors are misusing computers to misuse other computers? He might be selling bullets, but no ammunition manufacturer goes to jail for selling bullets for guns, and gun violence is much more violent than computer crime.
Right, its not illegal to sell guns either, its illegal to knowingly sell to bad actors. Intent matters a lot around the law... I wish the law around this stuff would be more clearly defined.
Best ITSEC podcast ever !
Incredible episode.
But who is Egypt?
I would definitely go see the robot passing out cards
Was listening to this while driving, and a cop literally pulled me over not 20min in. Someone doesn’t like the truth. 🤣🌶️
Microsoft: We made a tool!
HP: your tool has flaws and is being used by bad guys.
Microsoft: Not our problem
HP: Fix it or I show the world that you are untrustworthy
HP: I made a tool
Government: Your tool is flawed and being used by bad guys
HP: Not my responsibility
perfect timing on reloading youtube
Some of the things i learn on this channel are the true value of knowledge.
Jack: Are you considered about bad Actors using your Framework?
Jack: Makes podcast where criminals talk about how they did they gig 😅
audio sounded a bit muddier than usual on this episode, but the episode itself was still 10/10
people who commit crimes with weapons do not blame the weapons creator; Therefore, Dev's who create Penetration Tools should not be blamed when a bad actor uses their tools.
Just uploaded today? Oh shit! This will be awesome!
his MS call reminds me of Computer Stew Prank call trying to report pirated software on his computer back in the day lol
Lissing to this episode does bring up alot of memories and expensive phone bills 😅
One of the best episodes.
Really enjoyed this ep. Thank you for sharing.
A robot handing out business cards on a street corner is still weird.
I listen when driving to work ❤
I was QA way back in the day (including on M$FT products) and it blows my mind how much *worse* things have gotten. Testing should not be done after a product has been released into the wild. Effing Welch business model is largely responsable for all this.
Yay! Craving for some more of your wonderful educational and entertaining content!
The company began to look into his mother, then said, while looking at phone records, Wow! She works 24/7 leave her alone. Give her a raise
I still use MSDN or whatever MS calls it today. It was technet. Then MSDN. Then now Visual Studio Subscription. Depending on your version, you get all is and software license and even enterprise keys to setup KMS servers and exchange and office 365 and all server os. And all past stuff like win95 keys and up, Microsoft POS (v 1.0, I don't think they fully launched it) and every office version and such. Thousands of keys
Is this a reupload? Think I heard this before.
Holy shit I didn't know he was creator of Metasploit
53:24 right, and how about if you publish a cookie recipe and criminals start making cookies filled with poison, and you get arrested about the, the cookie now is a weapon.
What if someone collects all your cut nails and make a weapon out of it, you will go to jail for distributing your nails :D :D.
i wonder what are his thoughts about gun policy
If the creator of an exploit was prosecuted because person unknown used it to cause damage, then Colt should be prosecuted for mass murder.
A screwdriver can be a tool or a weapon. The intent is what's important.
I’m giving this a like before watching all the way.
"Johnny 5 is alive!!!" -Short Circuit 😎😁
Black balled is the older term for cancel culture
OHH MY GOOOD does HD talk fast! 😅
Thank you for this, but ...
As a non-native speaker I experienced big difficulties to understand what HD is saying 😞
He speaks very fast, without any breaks in between words, and - to add to my misery - microphone or its settings caused that voice was additionally disturbed 😕
If it is most important how a tool is used and not intentions of a producer or creator - then why weapon designers and manufacturers are not sued along somebody who robbed a bank using their gun?? 😲
Without this gun this would not be possible ...
So, if HD and community behind Metasploit, may be 'guilty' of delivering a tool which may be used by 'bad guys' to hack to some system and steal money or intellectual property (despite its intention is opposite - to test system and prevent 'bad guys' from getting in) - the more gun producers should be guilty of any victim suffered from their product!!
you play cs jack?
lmao, no comment was a great response to that last question!
In the 80s if you spoke to yourself in the street. You'll be classed as a mad person. Now with earbuds this is a normal.
30:48 The original Bug bounty!
0:34. Jack my guy, you need to do some robot voice acting, not bad.
Ahhh, the BBS days!
It's funny how things with some of the most value or importance are hated by all of the people in power on all sides. Glad they didn't win this time ❤ 🤘 🔥
there are people who go to church like it is religion every weekend. and there are those who listen to Jack Rhysider preach every week like it is religion.
Thanks for your work
The cookie talk made zero sense tbh, you aint handing a cookie, you a handing a loaded handgun to everyone
Number 97 on the likes. Let's go. I was waiting for your video to drop
man that was a solid pitch for his network analyzer company, would love to just walk around running that on public wifi networks lol
Thanks bro❤❤❤
ah my day just got even better!😀
This is sick thanks
Right.On.TIIME
Dudes a legend
Hacking software can be likened to gun manufacturers. Why is it ok to sell guns that kill people and not be held liable but releasing software that can hurt people or even kill people is illegal?
"No comment" lol
Here for the lulz
hdm!
OFF TOPIC UMB QUESTIONS TO ANY PPL THAT BOTHERS READING THIS:
For one, thank you for sparing a moment of your most valuable commodity. Your time. I assure you this is just my wondering about a network of acdifferent kind. The water system networks. Its one thing that ee are all hopefully now eell aware that many colleges and Universities that churned out the same "experts" who either personally published or took the information published as being credible, yet wasnt as it turns out. That much of those papers published were based on fabrications. So I point thatvout to say aldo that that is ehat even the eater systems in place whose experts say the piping used is durable for "X" amount of time. Not counting sll yhe variables yhstvthst estimation can entail. As in, its gotta hugely by flawed.
My questions are ehen is the last time you had the plumbing in your home/apr get inspected or replaced? Orr even ehen has any of a homes, buildings, city/towns, counties, states waterpipe systems for yhat matter! Outside of if a natural disaster that requires it, when has anyone seen their waterpipe system be replaced???
Just a horrifying thought that in all honesty. Not counting in country weakness points that can for alls any country can truly know wont be how that terrorists attack. Unless you have heavy filtration, UV as well as and high frequency blast your water, you really have a ehole nother tangent of conspiracy of many conspiracies that that garners. Thats a whole nother lifetime of therapy that I for one do not have time or any money for, in this one for!!
Just some points to ponder. 😮💨 And yes, this really is a level of Hell. The demons are yhe pridon giatds and yhose being killed isn for some war. Its really a blood sacrifice.
👋🏼🤪 Have s good rest of your day!!!
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what? in the real world diclaimers do anything?! even rhetorically? condescend to your audience more
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