The International 2022: A Production Failure

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  • Опубликовано: 31 окт 2022
  • The International 2022, brought to you by PGL & Valve.
    Some clips credited to ‪@Gorgc‬ & ‪@AdmiralBulldogDota‬.
    Intro song: Verdi - Requiem, Dies irae
    Background song: Cheese / Comical Music - ‪@TheSeventhMidnight‬ ( • 51. Cheese | RPG Funny... )
    Ending song: The Sexy Brutale Theme
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  • @gramozeka8829
    @gramozeka8829 Год назад +516

    Slacks was right when spoke before TI, about it being experimental. Valve decided to experiment with TI production being shit.

    • @phanthaihoa
      @phanthaihoa Год назад +38

      nah. PGL production have always been shit quality. Nothing experimental here

    • @ashlike270
      @ashlike270 Год назад +3

      @@phanthaihoa sarcasm

    • @tfredrick01
      @tfredrick01 Год назад +12

      slacks would get on his knees for anyone with a paycheck

    • @Havok0159
      @Havok0159 Год назад +9

      You'd think they'd remember the last time it was shit since they remembered to unban James, ban which coincided with firing a production team due to a legendarily shit production.

    • @Absolute_Zero7
      @Absolute_Zero7 Год назад +1

      @@phanthaihoa Honestly, this isn't true. Way back in 2016, PGL was arguably the GOAT when it came to producing large tournaments. Specifically, their work running The Manila Major that June was absolutely fantastic. There are many elements we take for granted in mordern Dota tournament production that was started by PGL here, most notably rather than the raw Hero Select Screen, they created the idea of keeping hero select as a bar at the bottom of the screen. In fact, The PGL Major was so much better produced than the other 2 majors that year, I think that's the reason why Valve chose to partner up with PGL, and had them run both of the Majors in the 2017-2018 Season, as well as all of the future TIs. I also don't think it's a coincidence that it's widely considered to be the best non-TI tournament in Dota 2 history.
      That being said, it's obvious that the PGL of 2016/17 isn't the PGL as today. Their quality has absolutely nosedived, and they are a shell of their former self, yet Valve keeps sticking with them. I think it's a sign we need more competition when it comes to running TI.

  • @fritziebaby23
    @fritziebaby23 Год назад +257

    The most epic is the time lapse of English stream .

    • @Castleromeo14
      @Castleromeo14 Год назад +27

      nah bro we got glimpsed for like 5 minutes to the past

    • @nicolasbourbaki3124
      @nicolasbourbaki3124 Год назад +9

      longest replay of my life

    • @Doomroar
      @Doomroar Год назад +5

      We has to see Ember being stuck in that cliff 3 times! 4 counting the replay of the replay 🤣

    • @FoxSullivan
      @FoxSullivan Год назад

      The spanish stream had the same issue tho. Idk about the others.

    • @lokanantazain
      @lokanantazain Год назад +2

      And it was in Grand Final 🤣🤣🤣😭

  • @Anibal744
    @Anibal744 Год назад +61

    I'm really happy the PGL audio guy kept his job after his work at the csgo major

  • @yanni100
    @yanni100 Год назад +817

    I hope PGL doesn't produce TI ever again

    • @YZZ505
      @YZZ505 Год назад +32

      Do you know? PGL held TI every year no one sound the production issues back then so they seem fine just not this year doe

    • @raultanjr
      @raultanjr Год назад +65

      @@YZZ505 be careful with your facts mate. People are on the pgl hate bandwagon right now.

    • @CssHDmonster
      @CssHDmonster Год назад +15

      i hope PGL doesnt produce a major ever again

    • @bilbof4854
      @bilbof4854 Год назад +15

      csgo fans be like : first time ?

    • @kiro253
      @kiro253 Год назад +5

      Chill its just this year..wtf they are human too ppl make mistake

  • @56ur4
    @56ur4 Год назад +382

    2GD is back and so are the Shanghai Major shenanigans

    • @ameame32
      @ameame32 Год назад +26

      Slacks warned us that TI11 would be shit coz valve is trying out to remake the shanghai shitshow again which is why 2GD is back

    • @gotivanmomak
      @gotivanmomak Год назад +3

      2gd did good! Not hes fault for sure

    • @reinoldgaming9780
      @reinoldgaming9780 Год назад +4

      @@gotivanmomak u sure? every time he is on cast there are problems when he is absent no problems Hmmmm

    • @ameame32
      @ameame32 Год назад +7

      @@gotivanmomak He did a really great job but... His presence just mean... Production is shiet like shanghai shitshow
      Just like how Kyle curses the teams he supported before Tundra

    • @eksen7221
      @eksen7221 Год назад

      ​@@reinoldgaming9780 lmao your logic 😂

  • @VitaKey
    @VitaKey Год назад +161

    You know the event was a failure when you can make an 11min video on production failures. Also the bit where Avo says trust me, don't worry, they will give me a sign is monumental.

    • @sararas2370
      @sararas2370 Год назад

      tikrai juokinga

    • @flayv999
      @flayv999 Год назад

      8 minutes in i remembered this is ONE TOURNAMENT

  • @failgamerful
    @failgamerful Год назад +97

    I thought Shanghai Major was the worst production we got but apparently PGL is trying their best to top it with this TI.

  • @GinkgoPete
    @GinkgoPete Год назад +63

    WePlay should have a run at it. The animajor stage is still the most gorgeous set ive ever seen in any esports event.

  • @Necroneer
    @Necroneer Год назад +131

    Such an important event and they fuck it up this badly.

    • @FLLAable
      @FLLAable Год назад +8

      hololive shitposter watches dota pog

    • @abbc5156
      @abbc5156 Год назад

      @@FLLAable I mean I see a lot of hololive avatars in dota

    • @echelontimepieces22
      @echelontimepieces22 Год назад +1

      if you think about it, if they managed to fuck it up this badly with proper funding, its clearly not important to them anymore, more like a chore to get over with you know.

    • @jason9336
      @jason9336 Год назад

      ti final sucked so nothing matters in the end

    • @hichew1021
      @hichew1021 Год назад

      @@echelontimepieces22 proper funding? It's gambling sponsor TI they would cut cost in anyway 🤣

  • @azhar1094
    @azhar1094 Год назад +139

    Based slappy with the great content as always. This video serves as kind of a callout to Valve, so hope it blows up and gets you the recognition you deserve for all your other videos

  • @trashcustrashford9001
    @trashcustrashford9001 Год назад +25

    Seeing a replay within a replay in the finals tilted me

  • @worldunderfire_
    @worldunderfire_ Год назад +24

    a nice insight, as always thank you sir slappybag9

  • @UncleHein7
    @UncleHein7 Год назад +18

    Bro IDK what we would do without you, thanks for amazing content always MR Slappy

  • @johnlorenz8032
    @johnlorenz8032 Год назад +40

    I hope ESL, WePlay and even BLAST should host more dota events in the future.

  • @kafkaergens9270
    @kafkaergens9270 Год назад +18

    best part was when I had to go to the portugese channel in grand final because production decided to time walk to 10mins ago…

  • @czarnylfernando17
    @czarnylfernando17 Год назад +8

    the worst is the players hearing the smoke of deceit sound effects and even the casters. that shit can turn the games upside down

  • @nihalsarambalkar6566
    @nihalsarambalkar6566 Год назад +50

    i hope slappybag9 gets the subscribers he truly deserves

  • @tiffanylovelovelove
    @tiffanylovelovelove Год назад +46

    This level of failure is brand-destroying. Absolutely humiliating

  • @Pabloproteinbar
    @Pabloproteinbar Год назад +8

    Can't stress enough how important this video is to the betterment of dota. Keep sharing this shit

  • @azyx5849
    @azyx5849 Год назад +3

    "trust me they'll give me a sign when it starts" LMAO

  • @patpatatyoutube8588
    @patpatatyoutube8588 Год назад +1

    Ohhh wow, another video thank you sir!

  • @vaudevillevillainnn
    @vaudevillevillainnn Год назад +11

    No way this production failure stretches to 11 mins💀 Valve, you gotta reconsider on letting PGL handle massive tourneys..

  • @leonlang2505
    @leonlang2505 Год назад +50

    weplay should get to host ti at some point, animajor was the best-produced esports event ive ever seen

    • @keeptryingtop
      @keeptryingtop Год назад +6

      Valve did not even listen to them, and gave the next dpc season to a Russian bookmaker BetBoom. That Weplay, that the BTSummit remained out of work precisely because someone in Valve really wants to cooperate with Russia

    • @kurfurst6465
      @kurfurst6465 Год назад

      @@keeptryingtop xpI0KHu

    • @keeptryingtop
      @keeptryingtop Год назад

      @@kurfurst6465 pogavkay rusnya

    • @yokisullivan8647
      @yokisullivan8647 Год назад +1

      for weebs, yes it was the best.

    • @Gigi-zr6hp
      @Gigi-zr6hp Год назад +1

      ​@@yokisullivan8647and for normal players PGL is the best one Valve can provide? Especially TI? No wonder Riot is winning

  • @Pepsimaximo1
    @Pepsimaximo1 Год назад +9

    5:15 "are you done" i fkn died watching that live

    • @nick1752
      @nick1752 Год назад +1

      ngl that was kinda mean...

    • @YY-mk4ti
      @YY-mk4ti Год назад

      AJHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I can't

  • @ameame32
    @ameame32 Год назад +20

    Telling Synderen to type gg makes this TI scripted man I love the fails video after a shitshow

    • @nick1752
      @nick1752 Год назад +1

      I can't get over it, why they even did that.

    • @wolf34501
      @wolf34501 Год назад +2

      @@nick1752 chat was literally spaming residentsleeper + it was over the time for the next game

  • @aslanthinkohkaew8511
    @aslanthinkohkaew8511 Год назад +4

    I can see the 2GD curse at play here 🤣

  • @bounphithakphithak6949
    @bounphithakphithak6949 Год назад +12

    Bulldog laugh is so good lmfao, got me everytime 2:18

  • @manserizawa2327
    @manserizawa2327 Год назад +63

    I believe Singapore was too expensive which is why only the main stage got the TI treatment while the rest felt like a mobile game tournament (no soundproofing etc)

    • @anthonylee512
      @anthonylee512 Год назад +39

      Too expensive? Tf? They literally pocketed the COVID TI money and never did anything with it, they def have the money

    • @robwintermoon3279
      @robwintermoon3279 Год назад +11

      PGL employee?? Lol we had lag and glitches at TI grand Finals my guy!

    • @caspian1004w
      @caspian1004w Год назад

      Agree! No Soundprooffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @JButterZJ
      @JButterZJ Год назад +12

      There was No Booth in the final also tho. And they have betting sponsors

    • @rapzyz
      @rapzyz Год назад

      not even the minimum TI treatment

  • @Banannawontsplit
    @Banannawontsplit Год назад +4

    It was so brutal having to sit through a $2 production value TI, the only time the matches were at a good time for me to watch as a New Zealander too. Most of the battlepass won't even go to DPC either. Really hope Volvo step up their game from here.

  • @Anon13378
    @Anon13378 Год назад +14

    And if anyone else is watching, its happening in the Rio CSGO Major, 1 game was delayed for so long because of server issues

    • @kaze6237
      @kaze6237 Год назад

      typical PGL even in Stockholm

    • @KenkenL
      @KenkenL Год назад

      Rio is hosted by ESL tho

  • @supertilapia
    @supertilapia Год назад +5

    This was a disastrous TI this year. Just the production. I don't really know why they aren't in a sound proof booth with those headsets. That's one of the things I was concerned of

    • @scarletvan4749
      @scarletvan4749 Год назад

      perhaps they saw that Riot doesn't use booths in its Worlds (cmiiw), so Valve decided to try it as well and failed miserably.

  • @exp1245
    @exp1245 Год назад +3

    i did not see the flashbang lmao wish i was there for that. actually pgl should produce 1 more so i can see it live

  • @mecazor
    @mecazor Год назад

    oh no no no no, this is going to be good KEKW ICANT

  • @Racers03
    @Racers03 Год назад +1

    This is painful and hilarious at the same time

  • @Eisenthorn4179
    @Eisenthorn4179 Год назад

    I don't play Dota 2 but some clips here feels like I'm in an overcrowded place with people talking using maxed out mics

  • @hugglebunny3
    @hugglebunny3 Год назад

    11 min comp of fails from a multi day event GOD FORBID

  • @Elf1492
    @Elf1492 Год назад +20

    And somehow Gabe didn't fire the production like what happened back in Shanghai 2016?

  • @jackthebeetle7981
    @jackthebeetle7981 Год назад

    You just earned a subscriber.

  • @deadwinglullaby
    @deadwinglullaby Год назад +3

    who could have known that outsourcing to the lowest bidder, who gave themselves a production budget so small that they needed a better sponsor to bail them out, would produce such bad results? nobody could have seen that coming!

  • @Cg-jo4sh
    @Cg-jo4sh Год назад +4

    Remember, STREAM CRASHED DURING THE GRAND FINALS

  • @TheMainManBD
    @TheMainManBD Год назад

    slappybag slaps again

  • @MaggieLeeow
    @MaggieLeeow Год назад

    The prize pool may be TI level but the production and the feeling feel like major

  • @rlntlsskuri1796
    @rlntlsskuri1796 Год назад +2

    You know its a bad production when you can a montage out of it 😂

  • @purwoputraa
    @purwoputraa Год назад +8

    slacks carry PGL so much i think

  • @Hjortur95
    @Hjortur95 Год назад +2

    i watched the 12 hour streams on youtube the day after and they had no issues
    group stages were gigascuffed but main event wasnt at all on my end. idk how they fixed it the day after

  • @Doomroar
    @Doomroar Год назад +3

    Nine: "They will give you a sign when it starts?"
    Avo+: "Yeah they will give me a sign when it starts, trust me, don't worry"
    PGL: "We will what?"
    Avo+: "I told him to trust me!"

  • @Jay-wc5qd
    @Jay-wc5qd Год назад

    Grand final weekend was really well produced tbf

  • @henoldpcllama
    @henoldpcllama Год назад +3

    really love this seriea in every ti almost close to shanghai lol

  • @chairinriadi9277
    @chairinriadi9277 Год назад +6

    I know it'll be some kind of failure when I see no booth in ti playoffs

    • @almezamorra1021
      @almezamorra1021 Год назад +1

      Even TI1 had booths... they probably thought they can do the same as LOL worlds playoffs... Singapoor sucks. they know that there will be no audience so they chose a smaller venue, or because of low budget and expensive prices, thats the only thing they could afford.

  • @TwentyThree_Kei
    @TwentyThree_Kei Год назад +1

    Slappy god with another upload 🙇

  • @azfarzamry3071
    @azfarzamry3071 Год назад +10

    The best cost to value TI ever!

  • @davidtoiser6535
    @davidtoiser6535 Год назад

    Loop-live on the grand final was a really wtf moment

  • @xiehanfoo6114
    @xiehanfoo6114 Год назад +5

    The amount of 'F' is unreal in this TI

  • @lyjaugs
    @lyjaugs Год назад +1

    this explains the "weird" results from all the teams this year. xd

  • @Nyancat092
    @Nyancat092 Год назад

    Ahhh, Shangai Major memories... 🤩🤩

  • @chronokel11
    @chronokel11 Год назад

    "Are you done?"

  • @DC-bd6pe
    @DC-bd6pe Год назад

    True Sight: The International 2022

  • @petercort3566
    @petercort3566 Год назад

    you left out the best part, the pre day 1 stream 'test' animated short

  • @arruxii
    @arruxii Год назад +6

    I hope ESL takes over.

  • @Kokozaftran
    @Kokozaftran Год назад

    PGL - intern level production.

  • @tsukishimatoiyo2930
    @tsukishimatoiyo2930 Год назад +1

    Sad that it happened when hosted in my country.

  • @Dazen101
    @Dazen101 Год назад +1

    So glad i;m NA and missed 90% of this train wreck due to time zone differences

  • @lakshyamodi1
    @lakshyamodi1 Год назад

    Patition to give the battlle pass money back

  • @lifealchemy1218
    @lifealchemy1218 Год назад

    The music makes this 😂

  • @zacharyhockett6248
    @zacharyhockett6248 Год назад

    Honestly the lag in the grandfinal was the cherry on top of this shit Sunday that was the production.

  • @iqbalbariq8913
    @iqbalbariq8913 Год назад

    finally some hq content from production

  • @ervingabriel7563
    @ervingabriel7563 Год назад +3

    6:36 OMG I can’t stop laughing

  • @rafaelv9121
    @rafaelv9121 Год назад

    10:55 I LOVE SLACKS HAHAHAHAH

  • @ellgareclaire
    @ellgareclaire Год назад

    The International Level of Production BTW

  • @ayeye-69
    @ayeye-69 Год назад

    best ti ever

  • @alfa563
    @alfa563 Год назад

    Shanghai Major and now TI11 is just making me reminisce Manila Major man

  • @IcyToasty
    @IcyToasty Год назад +1

    I’m surprised there weren’t any clips of the god awful mic quality from the “true sight” moments when they would cut to the team comms after a fight

    • @lunchplus
      @lunchplus Год назад

      Those were the most annoying part. Not only were those delayed by 5-10 mins, the comms were a mess

    • @SlappyBag9
      @SlappyBag9  Год назад

      tbh I kind of liked those, but they were a bit scuffed sounding. They could have been improved for sure.

  • @caniwasteallyourtimeherein9728
    @caniwasteallyourtimeherein9728 Год назад +3

    I remember when PGL hosted CSGO major, that was shit too. Man if only Blast is doing Dota event as well that would be pog

  • @erfaniom9576
    @erfaniom9576 Год назад

    good job making a 10 minute failure compilations out of like 72 hours of content

    • @SlappyBag9
      @SlappyBag9  Год назад +2

      Are you saying because this was only a portion of the entire event it's not relevant?
      I mean, the stream of the Grand Finals of Dota 2's biggest event of the year went offline in what ended up being the deciding game. What a joke.
      Major tournaments, especially ones that have major funding by the community, shouldn't have 10+ cumulative minutes of technical issues.

  • @mnzulhamsyah
    @mnzulhamsyah Год назад +1

    At first, I thought it's only me who felt so bland about this TI, but it just hit different for my friends as well. Like something is missing there.

  • @Altercepez
    @Altercepez Год назад

    The budget TI, it feels so inadequate in so many front

  • @RRembrandt
    @RRembrandt Год назад +1

    Beyond the Summit died for this Sadge

  • @bwiset4111
    @bwiset4111 Год назад

    explains the prize pool drop

  • @dgp_ipwn
    @dgp_ipwn Год назад

    Puppey: Are you calling this T.I. a shitshow?

  • @bpdhoplite
    @bpdhoplite Год назад +2

    picked up near the end but my god 80% of TI was abysmally produced

  • @SleepingDrone
    @SleepingDrone Год назад

    NASL sound guy strikes again.

  • @asnifuashifj91274
    @asnifuashifj91274 Год назад

    A lot of people say the headphones negates the need to have a cube. They are so wrong, there is no headphone that can effectively block all sounds, not even the best one (ranging from USD5k and above). What have been proven to work for decades are sound proof booths, specifically to those made for esports but with studio-grade quality to block sound waves from all frequencies. This just shows that Valve does not care about the most important aspect of the tournament - fair playing grounds.

  • @Baby-zu5gi
    @Baby-zu5gi Год назад

    Pgl got us an arcana

  • @keeptryingtop
    @keeptryingtop Год назад +2

    every year Valve is less and less engaged in DotA. this applies to both in-game content and esports

  • @adhityatm3847
    @adhityatm3847 Год назад

    That kaci fail so bad srsly xD

  • @colorless3560
    @colorless3560 Год назад

    should have added PGL Production in title for more brand damage. thanks

  • @SalveASMR
    @SalveASMR Год назад +24

    Don't you guys ever forget that PGL hosted The Manila Major, which set the standard for Dota 2 Event Production.

    • @dib1420
      @dib1420 Год назад +45

      Manila Major's production sucked, it was the fans, teams, and shoutcasters/commentators that made it great.

    • @xerxes9999
      @xerxes9999 Год назад +4

      Did you forget the god awful player cameras at the side? It was so goddamn messy to look at.

    • @SalveASMR
      @SalveASMR Год назад +1

      @@dib1420 Pinoy Crowd. Best Crowd.

  • @zoli378
    @zoli378 Год назад +1

    forgot the part in the finals where in the finals the stream went back by 6 minutes and had to rewatch the same teamfight twice lol, then the video was lagging for a while

    • @SlappyBag9
      @SlappyBag9  Год назад +1

      isn't that in the video? at 2:30

    • @zoli378
      @zoli378 Год назад

      @@SlappyBag9 right, i probably didnt pay attention at that part lol

  • @tim6096
    @tim6096 Год назад

    slappybag dropped kanye closing, this man's career is now officially over

  • @konig4626
    @konig4626 Год назад

    My Brain hurts dude

  • @samrossi2641
    @samrossi2641 Год назад

    And they saved the grand failure for the grand final, stream crash and go back 10 minutes behind....

  • @thehumus8688
    @thehumus8688 Год назад +3

    Valve should hire WePlay to do TI instead.
    WePlay is always have amazing production

  • @u12blue
    @u12blue Год назад +2

    Just compare all dota events we had vs riot's productions, not even close.

  • @davidtoiser6535
    @davidtoiser6535 Год назад +1

    Slacks no-audio still worth

  • @Anta_
    @Anta_ Год назад

    I hope next ti "weplay" can handle TI

  • @YY-mk4ti
    @YY-mk4ti Год назад

    I never thought it would be this bad lmao. It's like some production of some indie company. PGL and Valve just clowning themselves.

  • @AxaFin
    @AxaFin Год назад

    Marketing failure as well, I didn't know the tournament was even happening till the last day and by then already lost interest in it.

  • @qugo8158
    @qugo8158 Год назад +6

    PGL has always been lack luster and bad at their jobs. Look at their csgo major and they had a whole slew of issues as well. The only reason valve likes them is because they're always available like how they swooped in the replace perfect world at the Shanghai major, earning valves favor, and how quickly they were able to switch from Stockholm to Romania for ti10. As a TO, PGL has nothing noteworthy.

  • @bradfordbailo4656
    @bradfordbailo4656 Год назад

    Classic TI Prod amiryt? ah ah *wink wink

  • @stevenong9631
    @stevenong9631 Год назад +3

    what a year man hahah