Is the crossed position the key to this variation of the arm triangle ? In the more traditional arm triangle where your opponent is on their back and you have a gable grip, should you still try to get to a crossed position?
I think the crossed position is preventing any decent defence. Yair can’t get is arm up and out ‘answering the phone’. I roll with 2 guys that use the figure 4 for the head & arm triangle. Ive found it’s not the greatest against someone of equal strength to myself so I stopped using it. Maybe a coincidence.. but I’d say Ortega is stronger than Rodriguez and was confident he would pull that variation off.
@@andrewstephens3440I used the figure 4 and have done since I was 13 years old against much bigger stronger men. It’s just less fatiguing because you’re not squeezing your hands, same concept as squeezing for a guillotine. If you turn a guillotine into a power guillotine (jones v machida) it takes away all of the squeezing. Instead of putting my left hand on their shoulder like ortega did, I usually put it on the back of my head and drive my weight forward.
@@Disinfo321 great point about the hands, I might revisit that approach then. I have been using the power guillotine for the past year & found it’s so superior.
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Is the crossed position the key to this variation of the arm triangle ? In the more traditional arm triangle where your opponent is on their back and you have a gable grip, should you still try to get to a crossed position?
I think the crossed position is preventing any decent defence. Yair can’t get is arm up and out ‘answering the phone’. I roll with 2 guys that use the figure 4 for the head & arm triangle. Ive found it’s not the greatest against someone of equal strength to myself so I stopped using it. Maybe a coincidence.. but I’d say Ortega is stronger than Rodriguez and was confident he would pull that variation off.
Look into kade and tye ruotolo. This is a modified finish from them turning away, it's not something you hunt for its just part of the dilemma.
@@andrewstephens3440I used the figure 4 and have done since I was 13 years old against much bigger stronger men.
It’s just less fatiguing because you’re not squeezing your hands, same concept as squeezing for a guillotine. If you turn a guillotine into a power guillotine (jones v machida) it takes away all of the squeezing.
Instead of putting my left hand on their shoulder like ortega did, I usually put it on the back of my head and drive my weight forward.
@@andrewstephens3440but I’m just an inconsistent purple belt that trains on and off.
@@Disinfo321 great point about the hands, I might revisit that approach then. I have been using the power guillotine for the past year & found it’s so superior.