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DNA Stories: Did She Marry Her Cousin?
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2013
- What are the odds of one Smolenyak marrying another Smolenyak? And if that happened, what are the odds that they were related - kissing cousins of some sort? Well, Megan Smolenyak did marry another Smolenyak, and used Y-DNA testing to answer the obvious question: Did she marry her cousin?
[Note: This video was made well before the use of genetic genealogy to assist with the resolution of cold cases - in fact, even before autosomal testing was available - so yes, I know that remark I made is now outdated!]
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Wow, this is amazing! What a great story. Also, that must have cost an arm and a leg to test that whole village!
Thanks, Jenn! And yeah, it wasn't cheap. I wound up budgeting myself by submitting 2 kits a month.
So timely and so interesting. Thank you for this upload.
This was an amazing thing to watch thanks for sharing x
It's so cool that you were able to go back to your ancestral village. See where your people came from in Eastern Europe.
So much has changed with Genetic Genealogy since this video came out. It's so cool to see how far it's come.
You have done what a lot of people would love to do. It is such a great work!
Thank you so much!
Very interesting video! I have a similar Slovak mystery in my Dad's great-grandmother's family who were from Spišské Podhradie, Slovakia and settled in the Brownsville, PA area. The family name is Smigovksy (Smigoski), but somewhere in the late 1880's when my great-grandmother, Mary Smigovsky married my great-grandfather, Andrew Jurick (Jurik) some of the Smogovskys began using "Urick" as a last name. I spoke to a distant Urick cousin about 25 years ago and the story he had was that there was one family with 2 different husbands over time, 1 a Smogovsky and 1 a Urick and that the family blended in a similar way that you found. I haven't been in touch with that branch of the family in years, but have a very distant cousin in Presov, Slovakia who was researching his great-grandmother Smigovska from the Europe side to determine our relationship. I have some speculation as to how we are related but am still using Family Search and other resources online to try to find the exact connection. When I'm finally able to reach back out that side of the family, I may try to get DNA done to figure this out. Thank you so much for posting the video!
Love this! Sweet family story too. :)
Interesting story ! Thanks for sharing.
Great advice with regards to keeping an open mind with regards genealogy, i enjoyed this video - it turned out to be quite an amazing result :)
Thanks, Richard! So glad you enjoyed it and appreciate your feedback!
my pleasure :)
I've read your articles and was so interested in reading your story. Genealogy has been an interest since I took over updating my Baldus family history back in mid 1970s. Since then I've researched most of my other family branches and have found some wonderful "cousins".
Thanks for watching, Constance. Delighted to hear about your cousin-gathering!
Megan, you're a woman after my own heart! I loved your story.
Interesting video Megan I thoroughly enjoyed it with regards to telling us about your journey and advice on genealogy and yes it is important what your husband said have an open mind when it comes to uncovering good or unfortunate info 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
Thanks so much, James!
What an interesting story, I really enjoy these!
Thanks! Happy to hear that!
thanks! it means "pitch" or "tar," which was used in roofing and for other similar purposes so we're thinking that maybe it was an occupational name - but that's just a theory
That makes perfect sense. Smith is a common name of course due to it being an occupation name and a very common occupation. The other thing I was thinking is maybe it was a place name. Perhaps a group of people all came from the same village and immigrated to the one your family is from and they just all got called the people from Smolenyak and the name stuck. I have some odd surnames in my family like "Boatfish" and "Starbuck" and one that would cost me my RUclips account if I quoted it here.
Great points.
Wonderful Story Thank You 😁👍❤️
Well, my paternal grandparents didn't share a last name, but they WERE cousins, because their mothers were sisters.
So did my maternal grandparents. It's not unusual in many Spanish speaking countries to marry cousins; it's not taboo.
Interesting! Beautiful music!
Love this. I am hoping my DNA results will help narrow down where our Tracey/Tracy line is from - over the water - somewhere in Ireland or England.
from Joel: Megan, even though this video was made in 2013, I just happened to see it today (18 Feb 2020). It was terrific to again see your dad, whom I saw on a daily basis in Saran in the early 1960s! I last saw him in the 1st Cav in RVN in 67/68, when he was a major and I was a captain. I'm glad to see the intervening 45+ years treated him kindly!
Super interesting!
Thanks, Victoria!
I did a little bit of ancestry, not a lot, I got lost ( bored) after a while and figured it was not that important to me after I had a bunch of pictures and the main things most people want to know about themselves. It was fun and interesting! .... Our daughter married her husband in California. They wanted us to move there to be with them so we made the move.
I was still buying the Ancestry each month at that time. So, I started doing our son-in-law's family. I was about 5 generations and into his and did an aunt and uncle of his. At the same time, I was still working on mine. As I was doing mine on my mother's side, I came across a tumb stone that confused me. It was one that was not your everyday stone. So I knew I had just seen this one and printed out the information. But where? ... I went back to our son-in-law's and there it was. The same name and people. Our Daughter and her husband have the same aunt and uncle 5 generations back. It is not a problem beings it is so far back and it is by marriage. I just find it strange that they were raised so far apart 1500 miles. She moves to CA and is teaching school. Meets him and they marry. He had an uncommon Chechuslavouian name. Her birth name is German.
What a cool story you have! What does Smolenyak mean?
Hi Megan. I am a new subscriber. I just watched two of your videos and enjoyed them. I am also a Genealogy fan. So far I have managed to track my ancestors through paper trail only. I took a DNA test in 2012. I paid $200 to AncestryDNA and got back only a histogram with 3 percentages. I am weary now. I do not know which company to trust. Is there a way you would respond to this message privately? I would really appreciate your input. I don't want to pay again to get nothing in return.
Fingers crossed for you, Rosanna!
Ah, so this was familiar territory to you! Hope there's an idea or two in there you can borrow for your own mystery!
Whoopsie is an understatement
So did you gg to St Judes? I thought they were free & helped parents with expenses... i and my momma have always donated❤️
I WATCH THESE KIND OF MOVIES FOR DAYS NOW BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I SEEN THIS ONE FROM HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA. LOL
I knew a Smolenyak when I was a kid!
Are you able to add Homsa as a double barrelled surname?
How have I not heard of Megan Smolenyak until now!?!? She is a genealogy god... and I have no doubt that many of my own profound discoveries were, to some extent, an indirect result of her work.
You give me too much credit, Nathaniel, but thanks very much for your kind words!
I'm one of 5 siblings and my parents were first cousins. (My 2 grandmothers were sister). We are all perfectly healthy and normal (well... "normal" is too big of a word. LOL).
Very nice story, BTW!
As a genealogist I have discovered that cousin marriage is very common around the world. My father's grandparents were first cousins and nobody in the more recent generations knew as they didn't talk much about family back then. I have since discovered several examples of cousin marriage up the family tree. One thing about discovering a cousin marriage in your family tree is it reduces the number of ancestors you have to look up and research. Oh and the further back you go the higher the percentage of your ancestors were related to each other.
This is not normal it’s a form of incest. And may be unlawful to marry your first cousin because of all the health risks involved keyword here is risk...you dodged a bullet
@@tblk1860 It certainly was considered normal back in the day. Not really all that long ago actually.
Your response was kind of ignorant and borderline rude.
@@nunyabiznez6381 thank you for spreading light on the subject :)
how disgusting AND illegal in America
My Father's family have been tracking down male Edgar's around the world, to test for their Y haplogroups, for the last 13 years. It is quite fascinating how many are related and how many are flies in the proverbial ointment.
stedgar369
Hi from Australia
my friend who is 95 now was born Herold Dorothy Edgar, she married Alan Mohr, her father was Harold Stanley Edgar. One of her sons is Max Mohr
I don't know if she has blood Edgar male cousins or nephews.
Ok, the keychain bit is about the bring the tears.
My parents had the same last name. They have common ancestors in the 1700s. James married Nancy. Brother Benjamin married Nancy's niece Elizabeth. My mom is descended from James and Nancy. My dad is descended from Benjamin and Elizabeth. Unfortunately my maternal grandparents, though they had different last names, were even more closely related, maybe third or fourth cousins. Family tree looks more like a web Lol.
I use both Barragan Solis.. my dad Barragan Cervantes.. and so on.. makes it a little easier to pick apart names and family lines in data bases..
My grandparents on my mother's side (Paul and Julia Romanyak) are from the same town in Slovakia, and there are are Smolenyaks in Barton, Ohio. I believe that the Romanyaks (Mom's family) are related some way. The Vanescko family is also in Barton. The Church in Barton, Ohio is a copy of the one in Slovakia.
Yup, have been to Barton a few times in the course of my research. Even held a big Osturna reunion there once. I think of Barton as Osturna in America since there's such heavy overlap. If you stroll the cemeteries in both places, you see the same names. Strong connections, to be sure!
@@MeganSmolenyak In your research, have you found any connection to your family and the Romanyaks? Also, what do you think Romanyak means? My mother and I had very different thoughts about that while she was alive. I did find your FBI page and will try to follow you there.
Are you familiar with the Italian last name Esposito, and it’s origin? Italian churches used to have basically lazy Susan’s built into the walls, where people could anonymously give up their unwanted children, and the nuns in the church would raise them. Being that their real last name was unknown, the nuns gave them a first and last name. The last name was usually Esposito (exposed, as in, to the lords mercy). After a while they started using other names, but my point is, all those Espositos weren’t actually related to each other. I’m wondering if your family history has something to do with babies of unknown parentage being given a name?
Interesting story
Very nice film. maybe you are on the female line on autosomal DNA
My husband's paternal grandmother, and my maternal grandmother had the same maiden name. Granted, Dixon is a pretty common surname. No genetic relationship has come to light, but we have gotten a few jokes from family members about being kissing cousins.
I'll bet you have!
My dad is a double Collins his mother and father where both Collins but of no relation . two different lines English and Irish
I married a Wiesczcynski. My hubs doesn’t care for ancestry but I love it. I can go back to Valentine (Walenti) Wiesczcynski etc. in Łódź but that’s it
Very interesting, but for me it is interesting from another angle. My family is from the Allentown area. My grandparents actually died in Nazareth. I had an old friend from Allentown area who was raised, in the twenties, primarily by a Lithuanian nanny. She had learned a bit of Lithuanian from that nanny and always called her cat in Lithuanian. That is not a common ethnicity in the area, despite it being a huge melting pot. So now I'm wondering if there is a connection there.
Have you guys taken autosomal tests yet? You guys need to update the story with autosomal tests please lol
Yup, as I mentioned, this was done a while ago. And yes, as a result of autosomal testing, we believe we share a common ancestor (on a non-Smolenyak branch) back in the 1700s.
Do you know where your husbands connects to the homza name? How far up in his line?
My 2xgreat grandmother Franciska Tenczar married a Januscek. Her daughter, Honorata Januszek married Kasimierz Tenczar in Chicago 1903. So far in my search I have discovered they both came from the same area of Austria Poland mid 1890's. Their villages were only apprx 3 miles apart. What would be my next step in finding out if my great grandparents were cousins? I have a brother for the Y chromosome but that would stop with my grandmother. I have 2 male first cousins once removed and their dad was my grandmother's brother. Unfortunately Grandma and Uncle Chester are both deceased. Would that be going in the right direction.? Really enjoyed this video and was so surprised to see the results come back for your village!
I'm guessing in the home country it's Smol-EN-yak
CI found my father after 47 years , but don’t have any luck in finding anything on fathers side . Love your story .
So...keep looking. Try rootsweb and the family history centers the Mormons have in most towns. Just google local Mormon family history centers. There will be people to assist in that building as well as forms. You can order microfiche films and everything. You can access web family history at www.LDS.org. Happy hunting.
We have gaps in knowledge of some ancestors....you know how strange animals get in under the fence...I'd like to find my great grandfather's remaining family. I don't see why this would be painful for them two generations afterwards. I'm not looking for money or retribution, I'm looking for more people to love and care about. Hope it works out!
so next question where did the name come from? My last name is Groutage and It was a made up name back in the 1600's
RE: Lena W. Wisdom........
is spooky
Great video, Megan!!! So interesting to me because my paternal great grandparents also had the same surname. So my great grandmother was Secondina Garbaccio Garbaccio!! I haven't found anything linking them yet but they were from the same little town of Mosso Santa Maria of the Piedmont Region in Italy where the name was common. There is also another small town not far from their hometown that actually is the town of Garbaccio but so far I have not been able to find any connections!
No, your great grandmother was Secondina Garbaccio in Garbaccio. Italian naming customs, not American, prevail in Italy.
The N in the name is pronounced enyay like the Spanish ñ, It’s also the n in the village name.
For the last couple months I've been researching a family surname on my mom's side of the family, but I have been running into a dead end. The last name, Mytnik, is not very popular so it makes it difficult to find information about possible ancestors/relatives. With that, my ancestors (with the last name of Mytnik) immigrated to America from southern Poland and I've been struggling to find information/research about them. Do you have any suggestions or recommendations? Thanks!
Andrew, if they came in from Poland try searching the Ellis island data base. Mothers first husband had a very unusual last name and I found records for family members and followed the paper trail. Don't forget to check the passenger list for each ship. Search by approximate date of arrival and name. I think that site is www.shipslist.com it often tells the ships name and captain I promise they didn't swim from Poland to America.
Cool
What country is the name originally from
if you mean Springsteen, I believe the Netherlands
My parents are first cousins
Mc LBJ sick
Hi Mc LBJ that is very interesting, I am a casting producer here in Los Angeles and we are doing a documentary on Cousins in realationship or marriage. Our goal is to show that love is love and we all looking for couples to follow like your parents who have had this long term successful love affair. This is for a great network and there is compensation for being on our project, do you think they might be interested? Thanks so much and have a great day. :)
Im shocked the Slovakians took your DNA tests honestly.
It was totally voluntary. It might be that it was such a novelty at the time that they found it interesting to join in.
:)
England and most countries in Europe you can marry your cousin only the yanks make a fuss about it
First cousins, are very iffy- if your common ancestry has no genetic problem all can be well, but if not... Test first, if you suspect anything. Second cousins are much less risky and are much closer to random matching. That said, I’ve seen serious rare genetic disorders (autosomal recessive) in offspring of two totally unrelated people. On the other hand, communities with a high percentage of cousin marriages (usually for property retention within the extended family or just no other available matches for geographic isolation or social reasons)or ) have a high percentage of serious genetic disorders.
Even the Bible has restrictions on consanguineous matches, and that phrase in traditional weddings where the minister asks about reasons a couple should not wed, was at least partially about consanguinity.
@@madgevanness4011 A friend of ours has lost two out of four children due to birth defects attributed to marrying her 1st cousin. From what I've read though, that is rare for defects.
@@madgevanness4011 that is very interesting...
@@madgevanness4011 Hi Madge, fellow Dutch girl here my mom is a Van Gronigen! Anyway I am a casting producer here in LA and we are casting a new docuseries for a great network. I was wondering if you happen to know any cousin couples? I would love to reach out and see if they might like to share their love stories with us. It seems like you are very knowledgeable on the subject.....We are coming at the series with No judgements.
Admixture
Those tests didn't exist at the time. I wish they had! But I also did a village study when I was a beta-tester for 23andMe when they first launched with admixture tests.