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3. Russia officially took Crimea into its fold, and attempted to integrate the two republics back into the collapsed Soviet Ukraine. This integration was called the Minsk process.
6. What do EU countries want to achieve? The Federal Republic of Germany annexed the GDR. Applaud that Russia is doing the same! After all, Ukrainians and Russians are one people divided in 1991 by the communist nomenklatura of the CPSU.
That "shadowy world" as you call it is actually the rest of the world, that is slowly but surely learning to function without Western financial and technological monopolies.
Why is it a shadow fleet? They operate under their own rules, certified under their own respective governments, not entering ports where they can't get insurance or are banned from so on. If anything they are just a full on competitor to the market. As someone who has been working in chartering product tankers and cargo operations, these owners existed way before any of these events. And they were successfully moving cargo around the med and black sea. Its only now you take note of them. And they are just like any other LLC registered gosh knows where, with a 10k USD capital. Its also funny that these restrictions have basically forced an industry dominated by europe, for many centuries, to break up and migrate. Just shows how "isolated" Russia is.
Anything not set in place by the US and their allies us labeled "shadow" or "insurgent" or "unjust" or "illegal". Anything the US approves of is given positive labels. Everyone in the world knows this except for Americans who still think that we send troops to foreign lands to "bring democracy"
Why it is a shadow fleet, because US do not have a control on it. As US is losing quietly but certainly control over entire world. What it remains is yelling at entire world
The hunger of NATO, the endless list of coups runned by the usa, the greed of the MIC, the illusion of superiority..... It all comes together into a huge faillure.
because it's not insured appropriately, it's using dodgy ships as they can't buy western oil ships as they're under sanctions, environmental disaster will happen soon
Since sanctions against Russia began in 2014, the US has increased imports of Russian oil by 30 percent. Many tankers fly the flag of third countries and no longer indicate their port of destination after loading in Russian ports. These ships sometimes meet on the high seas or near American territorial waters and transfer their cargo to American ships there. Oil tankers and liquid gas tankers are relatively rare. The EU and the USA tried to get hold of these ships, the USA had the better cards. This “shadow fleet” brings Russian oil, natural gas and liquid gas to the USA and Europe (EU). In 2023, Germany purchased liquid gas from Russia through intermediaries (Belgium) for 30 billion euros. The EU imported goods and services worth 183 billion euros from Russia in 2022 alone. If you take a closer look, you will find that these ships operate on behalf of European and American shipping companies. Which flag they fly under is secondary. The European Commission has explicitly exempted three major Russian financial institutions from sanctions. All transactions between the EU and Russia pass through these institutions. The USA continues to buy its uranium from Russia, because the Russian company ROSATOM controls 47% of the world trade in uranium and nuclear fuel rods. Bloomberg only scratches the surface with his report and doesn't look behind the scenes. The USA and the EU are pointing their fingers at anyone who still officially trades with Russia and threatening these countries, but are no better themselves.
@@frankblangeard8865 very true. much of these shadow fleet are active closer to west 'friendly' shores for obvious reasons. india processes before shipping out and china processes for domestic consumption so shadow fleet activity is minimal. anyway, the profit is more spread now then ever before. downside is that potential of oil spill is greater.
@@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 USA and Turkey being illegally in Syria and controlling oil rigs, what else do you need? Russia is the only country that was invited there, you can call Assad a dictator, but a rule is a rule. You can call Biden dictator just because he is forcing EV's
@confidential6073 hahaha, you right! No, seriously, you are right. Just if you dig deeper you'll find out a lot of dirt about us. Well, no one wants to know that. It's just hurts people's feelings))) and who wants to hurt 'emselves. Easier to point finger on someone else as one said in a video )))
Why do we care where Russian oil and gas goes? Europe said they do not want cheap Russian energy anymore. Europe only wants to buy American energy for 500% more money. Following these tankers around is like breaking up with your girlfriend and checking her facebook 10 years later, its pathetic.
@@ldkbudda4176 Noooooooo Russia must accept NATO missiles 70 miles from moscow. Nooooooooo Pütler must accept 14.000 Russians slaughtered in the Donbas. Nooooooooooo Ukraine is a beacon of democracy where people haven't been allowed to vote since november 2013.
The "Price cap" is a mechanism announced unilaterally by certain powers using their own Laws to enforce them - no other countries are required to accept the commandments of the EU or the US as to what they can do, since their policy decisions do not carry any binding power.
Other countries can do as they please, but that does not mean they are immune from punishment for doing so. For example, sanctions can be imposed on countries that aid Russia. Those countries could have their trade with the west cut off, they could be cut off from global financial networks, investment in those countries could be banned, the list of potential punishments is truly endless. I think most people would be surprised just how bad of an idea it is to oppose the US and Europe, they have endless ways to punish rogue states.
And that's where sanctions come in. Countries DO have the legal authority to regulate who gets to trade inside their borders. That's where enforcement comes into play, and has been severely lacking.
@@karwashblark7499 I get it but wt & who makes it illegal ? They didn't steal or cheat cuz they got banned and the Rus went to other alternative. Its politics thats wrong here while other so called Democratic nations doing wtever they like to do. That doesn't mean I hate the west but they don't need always to police every part of the world. Thats my point.
The amount of annoyance in this video is mindblowing, western countries think they can control or dictate what other sovereign countries can/can't do...
No, but we can say that if you want to do business with us in the future, you better do as we tell. Because when it comes to it, the only substantial market for these third world countries is the Western market.
@@alanmay7929 You are welcome to try and sell your goods and services to the consumers in Asia or Africa. My hunch is you are not going to be able to charge anywhere near what you are currently billing the Western consumers.
@@Max-ve5tubut the world is changed Asia is growing, Europe is in recession and have deindustrialization. You are ruining yourself with your arrogance.
@@Max-ve5tuyou really don't see how non western countries are growing bc you are deep listening the propaganda western media. China is preparing the future with its belt and road. Bro, wake up!! The western world is slowly dying. As a matter of fact, Europe is dead as we are debating here, they just clinch into their glorious past to give the illusion they are independently powerful.
The other issue not covered is the shipping insurance area where the big western companies are not getting the income they had previously received. Russia is using its small fleet to get out of Black Sea to the larger Greek tankers. Oil prices are set at EU values but the shipping cost is inflated to the client such that Russia gets its$75 a barrel it wants and the shipping company gets paid at world parity of $85:00 a barrel on delivery. Win win for all but the EU.
and the EU paid the gas 6x the price before the war, leading to the deindustrialization of the EU. Meantime Elensky friends just bought two yachts for 75m USD.
@@leme5639 google BASF is closing plants in Germany, and Michelin is closing plants in Germany, (and plenty of others). Then check why and there is your source, don't be lame...
There is no investigation needed on that. The money is approved by the US Congress each time and the amount is well publicized each time they approve more funds.
@@usun_politics1033 America did send the mustache man money Henry Ford had a picture of him on his desk. Many prominent Americans loved the guy. It was no secret until Germany officially joined.
What the politicians do not understand is that Shipping is self-regulated, and that Cargoes, will always find their way home. It is a only bcase of "double standards" as well as stupidity,' to speak about the 'dark fleet' / price caps etc, when all EU countries and the US who are the originators of the so called sanctions are buying all the Rus diesel, gasoline and all byproducts which, after being dark-shipped to India is baptized "Indian".
You think the politicians do not understand this system? They have created it in the first place. They have the power to change it but they won't because they are the ones who get rich by doing this while the common man suffers.
True but at least Russia is then unable to sell refined petroleum products and only gets money for crude oil. It is no wonder than Russian refineries are all starting to face bankruptcy
This video in a nutshell- "Other countries are working together and agreeing to prices for goods and services for the benefit of the people in those countries. How can we stop this?"
I like how when the talking heads at Bloombers bring up "Russian invasion of Ukraine" they always must throw in a bunch of qualifiers like "illegal and unprovoked attack on a European country". The assumption being that US and NATO led invasions of primarily non-European (except Yugoslavia) countries populated by dark-skinned peoples were of course perfectly "legal" and somehow "provoked".
"Soviet propagandists during the cold war were trained in a tactic that their western interlocutors nicknamed 'whataboutism'. Any criticism of the Soviet Union (Afghanistan, martial law in Poland, imprisonment of dissidents, censorship) was met with a 'What about...' (apartheid South Africa, jailed trade-unionists, the Contras in Nicaragua, and so forth)." Edward Lucas, Economist, 2008
@@threethrushesjust pointing at western hypocrisy doesn't make one a soviet/russian propagandist. Even a country which has no interest in Usa or Russia can observe these things and make a comment.
@biohazard8295 but it's a misleading comment. I don't see the hypocrisy. Russia is making an attempt to permanently annex what would then become contiguous Russian territory. When have NATO members expanded their borders like that in the modern era?
@@threethrushes pointing out hypocrisy is a dark art conceived in soviet laboratories. Nobody else was able to invent this technology. Western neurologists argue there's something unusual about soviet brain anatomy and skull shape that they are capable of such uncultured barbarity.
Shadow means it dose not follow any regulations at sea or international law´s. is just one of many things that makes it Shadow. not cuz its not visible or only travel in moonlight.
Wishful thinking. Even now the largest oil producer and exporter in the entire world is the USA. We dominate virtually every industry in existence. China and Russia are on the path to economic isolation, China is now in a recession as a result.
@@caladr9367 You’re on drugs if you believe the US dominate every industry and everybody they don’t like is in recession. Despite the fact that reality is the exact opposite.
Shhhhh! This is Bloomberg News!! We don't talk about obviously nasty stories that the Clinton's orchestrated and got paid for! Stick to the script man!! Oil bad! Orange man bad! More government to solve stuff!
@@howdytooty So basically this nation which was forcing everyone to stop importing from Russia in February 2022, took 18 months to stop its own imports ? There should be a H in USA which would stand for hypocrisy.
@@howdytooty Do you know why they left a loophole in the law? The law is for the rest of the world and the United States will buy Russian fuel. Cause. In Russia, the laser method of purifying uranium is used, while in the USA the oldest chemical method is used. The cleaner the fuel, the more stable the reactor operates. I am 100% sure that the aircraft carrier and all US submarines using nuclear energy operate on Russian fuel And you don’t have technology, and we will no longer give the world our developments and discoveries
@@CaptainDickGs It is NATO who pays ISIS to steal oil from Syria. Everyday 8000 containers of oil makes its way into the EU. None of Syria's neighbours need their oil: Russia and Iran have enough of their own.
@@ttemp2631 is there anything west can not produce? Look around, anything you own started from your phone, a car or an internet provider to simplest light bulbs in your house is a western technology. If it comes to that the west has a lot more leverage
Some Western leaders along with supporters and media corporations have succeeded in getting BRICS and others to adopt onshoring, nearshoring and friend-shoring principles. This creates increased competition for Western businesses and it promotes resilience in other parts of the World. It was entirely predictable and as has been mentioned, if sanctions were genuine then the costs to the West, especially Europe, would be huge. They have become masters of looking like they're taking meaningful action while avoiding some of the short term inflationary downside.
Gazprom just got a Gas Refinery contract with South African State Owned Refinery PetroSA. As BRICS members we actually see that as normal and not shadow nonsense
They can stop buying Chinese and Indian goods that are made with that oil tho forcing those countries to stop buying Russian resources. They also can fund Ukraine with Russian sanctioned 350 Billion as reparations
Thats because it doesn't work. Who would have thought that you can buy a ship and ship the cargo yourself to whomever wants to buy it. And then, as it turns out, you don't even need to buy a ship, because there is a market for moving your cargo, and since all the others are banned, its a first come first served basis, causing the market to go crazy in price. Welcome.
except it does work, just not to the extent US/EU thought they might work, why do you think India and China are buying Russian oil at discount? Of course price cap works, it should be lowered to $30@@contemporarymonk
This is actually nonsense, since this game can be played by two people. Imagine if potential buyers of iPhones in each individual country set their own price for their purchase)
So basically… we’re gonna try to tell the seller how much he’s allowed to charge the buyers (us) bc we don’t wanna give him too much money. Would America ever abide by Russias demand for such. Cap or exports for their financial gain. This is dumb.
Гордость за Россию после таких видео. Это ж надо в одиночку противостоять гегемону с его шестерками! Очень круто снято. Россия реально мощная, независимая и свободная страна!
Цены на продукты растут потихоньку, надо побольше денег зарабатывать как то и по сути проблем то нет. По большому счёту главная беда в РФ - разобщённость разработок военных и гражданских, и в общем и целом ленивость и тех и других. Вот что нам надо больше всего - наше железо и наш софт, чтобы заменить Windows везде, и чтобы не пользоваться ни Intel, ни AMD, т.к. очевидно что в них закладки.
The Authorities (western government's) have done their job to placate their electorates. They won't really enforce this. Have to balance verbiage and inflation.
Mind Begs the Question: - If under a Indian PM/Govt - Protesting Rapes is Sedition,Jailed - Gang Rapists are Celebrated,Freed - Indian PM/Govt is Democratic or Fascist?
Nordstream died down a couple weeks when the gas leaked out. These tankers, in case of an accident, they will create a massive ecosystem disaster. Control of these chips is a MUST for EU navies and coast guards. Tracking them is tough but and oil tankers is huge, slow and there is always 1 thing: one of the tankers has to be stationary and while the 2nd is not "there", track both due they are a few kilometers apart and impound BOTH. The captain always use forged paperwork but 100,000 tons of oil x 60 dollars per barrel means: 6million dollars plus the ageing ship which is worth more than the oil.
I love to see Westerns complaining about the disfunction of sanctions. Who gave you the authority to force other nations to do what you want? It is not any more the western period, we will see more and more drifting toward the east.
It's incredible to see the difference in standard citizen outlooks with this documentary. We've as a population have realised that US/UK etc have shafted us for so long from their profiteering/Tax from the world, that were now happy they've avoided idiotic western tax to drop into the elite pockets. Keep going. Create your own system, as you are your own country.
And the only country that has used nuclear weapons in the entire history of mankind is the USA (against the Japanese, because they could not fight back)
This is a very worrying symptom....if India and China aren't on board with any sanctions on a particular country, those sanctions are SEVERELY blunted ,and the thing is these markets are still growing...in 20 years time The balance of power will swing back East fully as it has always been ...the USA and it's allies are wasting precious political capital beginning with the invasion of Iraq and support for Israel has only accelerated this wastage, political capital they might have used to convince at least India to be in their camp...now India and Russia are firmly in one camp and very soon India and China will start using Russia as a go between and this is where the BRICS alliance becomes powerful....it's not because they like each other but it's because they have a platform where they can discuss their issues as peers and focus on creating a world order that favours them, India and China may not like each other but as long as they have a platform where they can cooperate, they will spend less resources on looking for ways to finish each other but more resources on economic development.
You are only partly correct. Honestly Russia isn't anymore effective in reining in CCP...in fact Putin is CCP's junior partner because CCP is literally holding the Russian economy in interdependence in its own favour. Even India can't hope to get a mediator role from Russia against CCP. It all depends on how crazy or rational CCP will conduct itself...and that's extremely unpredictable
To the US and its western allies stop telling what the rest should do. Its NOT your Oil and so STOP trying to dictate terms. If there is an oil spill than its the US and EU who would be responsible..
Western Hypocrisy has no limits. In the beginning of this clip Bloomberg states that this is an illegal war.. Can you please point out if Iraq, Libya , Syria and many others were legal or not? NATO and west are responsible for this war and you may want to investigate defence lobby in this war
will americablow up those tankers just like they blew up nordstream pipeline, destroy local wildlife and cause a huge natural disaster then blame old oil tankers for the tragedy?
Wait, so neither Russia nor India are breaking any rules and America are salty they aren't getting a cut? Colour me shocked. If the rules are wrong, then change them.
When Singapore made that decision in early 2022. They were just going with what they thought was the flow. Thier government was told by thier advisors that Russia was a gas station masquerading as a country. Because that's what they were told when doing a dodgy degree in geo politics at some ivy league university. At the time the decision was made I bet not a single Singaporean politician knew what or where Donbass is.
This is the highest level of neocon hot air nonsense. These old tankers were built in 1997 and 2002. The average age of the US fleet is over 40 years old. The US has no justification to criticize anyone about ship ages.
By the way, most of those ships are insured in the BRICS nations. It is no longer a preserve of western companies to issue insurance. The world is moving on without them at all
I believe AIS spoofing is rather easy to do. Also the ship Turba might be using AIS which runs in Stealth mode, where the system only listen for AIS signal from other ships nearby but does not emits any signal from it's own AIS.
@@tradorj8354Ukraine and Nato did . When they wanted to join an anti-Russian alliance other than staying neutral . Both Ukraine and Georgia were invited to join Nato on '08 Bucharest summit , they paid a blood prize for that opportunity.
@@tradorj8354offensive or defensive Does not mean a thing In The Eye Of The Great power Just like Human right does not mean a thing In The Eye Of The great power
and when did this happen, wait it was after hiroshima and nagasaki right? news flash everybody has nukes now and can make one. the days of a multipolar world is over@@justmehello5543
The price cap has never worked and will never work. Europe believes it's the center of the world but it's only 1/8 of the worlds population. If Europe don't buy, other will.
We blame Russia for all and the truth is we are agressors in this conflict, When will US and EU be responsible and accountable for half mil of dead Ukraine soldiers who died for no reason at all other then american and EU plans to get more rich?
This video is hilarious. From the music to the overly dramatic terms and constant suggestion that this is somehow illegal. It isn’t. Sanctions and price caps like this are not international law. They are national. It is the EU and US saying to big companies, “Make a choice. Do business with us or them.” The EU always knew that the price cap would be circumvented by some. In exactly the same way that the Iranian sanctions regime has been circumvented. Everyone in the industry knew this would happen. Getting prissy about it is silly. If the EU really wanted to destroy Russian revenue then they should invest heavily in renewables globally (not just in the EU) and start fracking the HUGE amounts of shale oil and gas deposits in places like Poland. As every school kid learning economics knows, reducing demand and increasing supply is the way to collapse the price of something… …But that would upset both the oil companies and the environmentalists. So here we are blaming the Russians for responding in exactly the way we expected. 😂
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Why are you deceiving your viewers?🤢
2. In 2014, former residents of Ukraine held a referendum and began to live in Russia. There were 3 republics. Crimea, Lugansk and Donetsk.
3. Russia officially took Crimea into its fold, and attempted to integrate the two republics back into the collapsed Soviet Ukraine. This integration was called the Minsk process.
6. What do EU countries want to achieve? The Federal Republic of Germany annexed the GDR. Applaud that Russia is doing the same! After all, Ukrainians and Russians are one people divided in 1991 by the communist nomenklatura of the CPSU.
@@TyphoonUSSRCry more 🙄🤡 Regurgitating lies all over the place isn’t going to make them reality. Seek help FFS.
That "shadowy world" as you call it is actually the rest of the world, that is slowly but surely learning to function without Western financial and technological monopolies.
It's just shadowy for US government.
Truth has been said 🚬
right on point..
and it become clear that the "rules" were there just to cover up the "shadow piracy" of the world sea by the West
You said it well.
All that really matters is energy.
Why is it a shadow fleet? They operate under their own rules, certified under their own respective governments, not entering ports where they can't get insurance or are banned from so on. If anything they are just a full on competitor to the market. As someone who has been working in chartering product tankers and cargo operations, these owners existed way before any of these events. And they were successfully moving cargo around the med and black sea. Its only now you take note of them. And they are just like any other LLC registered gosh knows where, with a 10k USD capital.
Its also funny that these restrictions have basically forced an industry dominated by europe, for many centuries, to break up and migrate. Just shows how "isolated" Russia is.
Anything not set in place by the US and their allies us labeled "shadow" or "insurgent" or "unjust" or "illegal". Anything the US approves of is given positive labels. Everyone in the world knows this except for Americans who still think that we send troops to foreign lands to "bring democracy"
Why it is a shadow fleet, because US do not have a control on it. As US is losing quietly but certainly control over entire world. What it remains is yelling at entire world
The hunger of NATO, the endless list of coups runned by the usa, the greed of the MIC, the illusion of superiority..... It all comes together into a huge faillure.
because it's not insured appropriately, it's using dodgy ships as they can't buy western oil ships as they're under sanctions, environmental disaster will happen soon
GDP numbers are bogus.. Russia is far more important to the world than their GDP numbers suggest..
Since sanctions against Russia began in 2014, the US has increased imports of Russian oil by 30 percent. Many tankers fly the flag of third countries and no longer indicate their port of destination after loading in Russian ports. These ships sometimes meet on the high seas or near American territorial waters and transfer their cargo to American ships there. Oil tankers and liquid gas tankers are relatively rare. The EU and the USA tried to get hold of these ships, the USA had the better cards. This “shadow fleet” brings Russian oil, natural gas and liquid gas to the USA and Europe (EU). In 2023, Germany purchased liquid gas from Russia through intermediaries (Belgium) for 30 billion euros. The EU imported goods and services worth 183 billion euros from Russia in 2022 alone. If you take a closer look, you will find that these ships operate on behalf of European and American shipping companies. Which flag they fly under is secondary. The European Commission has explicitly exempted three major Russian financial institutions from sanctions. All transactions between the EU and Russia pass through these institutions. The USA continues to buy its uranium from Russia, because the Russian company ROSATOM controls 47% of the world trade in uranium and nuclear fuel rods. Bloomberg only scratches the surface with his report and doesn't look behind the scenes. The USA and the EU are pointing their fingers at anyone who still officially trades with Russia and threatening these countries, but are no better themselves.
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No way they transfer oil or gas mid sea.
Please name those 2014 sanctions. I need to know more.
план США по развалу экономики стран Евросоюза реализовывается.... европейские неудачники сами себе яму капают..... продолжайте в том же духе
The chief concern of Washington is that it's not them profiting from these deals.
Exactly!
Don't bet on that. Those in Washington don't miss out on dirty money.
@@frankblangeard8865 very true. much of these shadow fleet are active closer to west 'friendly' shores for obvious reasons. india processes before shipping out and china processes for domestic consumption so shadow fleet activity is minimal. anyway, the profit is more spread now then ever before. downside is that potential of oil spill is greater.
@@frankblangeard8865 Blind eye policy - when they get a cut
😂😂😂
Your concern is not environmental, your concern is financial and economical.
could it not be both
True. During this war i undertood that there is no patriotism, no emperial ambitions, all that called by "national interests" Is always money
For the most part
Money can be a national interest depending on how you spin it. It's a war of words lol.@@РэйЧехов
it's not about environment but counteracting a new rise of imperialism.
The US should talk about all their shadow operations that are happening worldwide.
Where's the video proving?
@@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 julian asange ??? hello ?
@@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 USA and Turkey being illegally in Syria and controlling oil rigs, what else do you need? Russia is the only country that was invited there, you can call Assad a dictator, but a rule is a rule. You can call Biden dictator just because he is forcing EV's
@@confidential6073 lol the country who control the world has less crimes exposed by asange then happens in small russia village, cmon
@confidential6073 hahaha, you right! No, seriously, you are right. Just if you dig deeper you'll find out a lot of dirt about us. Well, no one wants to know that. It's just hurts people's feelings))) and who wants to hurt 'emselves. Easier to point finger on someone else as one said in a video )))
Why do we care where Russian oil and gas goes? Europe said they do not want cheap Russian energy anymore. Europe only wants to buy American energy for 500% more money. Following these tankers around is like breaking up with your girlfriend and checking her facebook 10 years later, its pathetic.
Lol gr8 analogy 😂😂
💯 😂
Would you bye human organs from Russia?
@@ldkbudda4176 Noooooooo Russia must accept NATO missiles 70 miles from moscow. Nooooooooo Pütler must accept 14.000 Russians slaughtered in the Donbas. Nooooooooooo Ukraine is a beacon of democracy where people haven't been allowed to vote since november 2013.
@@ldkbudda4176who cares whether they are human organs or not we the Global south want cheap oil period!!
The "Price cap" is a mechanism announced unilaterally by certain powers using their own Laws to enforce them - no other countries are required to accept the commandments of the EU or the US as to what they can do, since their policy decisions do not carry any binding power.
India loves the price cap..... it effects thw orice they buy it!! India is refining like never before 😊
These tankers would never pass an MOT!! Tracking also needs to be enforced
Other countries can do as they please, but that does not mean they are immune from punishment for doing so. For example, sanctions can be imposed on countries that aid Russia. Those countries could have their trade with the west cut off, they could be cut off from global financial networks, investment in those countries could be banned, the list of potential punishments is truly endless. I think most people would be surprised just how bad of an idea it is to oppose the US and Europe, they have endless ways to punish rogue states.
And that's where sanctions come in. Countries DO have the legal authority to regulate who gets to trade inside their borders. That's where enforcement comes into play, and has been severely lacking.
@@timclarke68 If you sanction all countries involved in this, you are simply sanctioning yourself.
This is not 'shadow fleet' dummies, this is another 'alternative oil market'. When it doesn't flow by you, you call it shadow fleet.
You're right on target!
I think in this case the "shadow" means it is both illegal and clandestine, which it is.
@@karwashblark7499 I get it but wt & who makes it illegal ? They didn't steal or cheat cuz they got banned and the Rus went to other alternative. Its politics thats wrong here while other so called Democratic nations doing wtever they like to do. That doesn't mean I hate the west but they don't need always to police every part of the world. Thats my point.
@@deldiyshow-464 imnadequate insurance, switching off AIS are both in contravention of international maritime law. and that's just the beginning.
Totally fcking agree
The amount of annoyance in this video is mindblowing, western countries think they can control or dictate what other sovereign countries can/can't do...
No, but we can say that if you want to do business with us in the future, you better do as we tell. Because when it comes to it, the only substantial market for these third world countries is the Western market.
@@Max-ve5tu nonsense
@@alanmay7929 You are welcome to try and sell your goods and services to the consumers in Asia or Africa. My hunch is you are not going to be able to charge anywhere near what you are currently billing the Western consumers.
@@Max-ve5tubut the world is changed Asia is growing, Europe is in recession and have deindustrialization. You are ruining yourself with your arrogance.
@@Max-ve5tuyou really don't see how non western countries are growing bc you are deep listening the propaganda western media. China is preparing the future with its belt and road. Bro, wake up!! The western world is slowly dying. As a matter of fact, Europe is dead as we are debating here, they just clinch into their glorious past to give the illusion they are independently powerful.
The other issue not covered is the shipping insurance area where the big western companies are not getting the income they had previously received. Russia is using its small fleet to get out of Black Sea to the larger Greek tankers. Oil prices are set at EU values but the shipping cost is inflated to the client such that Russia gets its$75 a barrel it wants and the shipping company gets paid at world parity of $85:00 a barrel on delivery. Win win for all but the EU.
and the EU paid the gas 6x the price before the war, leading to the deindustrialization of the EU. Meantime Elensky friends just bought two yachts for 75m USD.
it's a lose-lose for Russia...
@@hrvojelasic5794 "and the EU paid the gas 6x the price before the war, leading to the deindustrialization of the EU". sourcE?
@@leme5639 google BASF is closing plants in Germany, and Michelin is closing plants in Germany, (and plenty of others). Then check why and there is your source, don't be lame...
@@leme5639 How many times a day do you have to repeat that to yourself to believe it!?
Can you make one about the American taxpayer's money fueling the other side of the war?
There is no investigation needed on that. The money is approved by the US Congress each time and the amount is well publicized each time they approve more funds.
As it was during WW2
Stop being antisemitic
@@usun_politics1033 America did send the mustache man money Henry Ford had a picture of him on his desk. Many prominent Americans loved the guy. It was no secret until Germany officially joined.
Its pretty straightforward. Ukraine is fighting for their identity and their lives. Whats the confusion?
What the politicians do not understand is that Shipping is self-regulated, and that Cargoes, will always find their way home.
It is a only bcase of "double standards" as well as stupidity,' to speak about the 'dark fleet' / price caps etc, when all EU countries and the US who are the originators of the so called sanctions are buying all the Rus diesel, gasoline and all byproducts which, after being dark-shipped to India is baptized "Indian".
Political gamesmanship with Ukrainian bodies as pieces in the game.
You think the politicians do not understand this system? They have created it in the first place. They have the power to change it but they won't because they are the ones who get rich by doing this while the common man suffers.
True but at least Russia is then unable to sell refined petroleum products and only gets money for crude oil. It is no wonder than Russian refineries are all starting to face bankruptcy
@@thexperimenter88clutch at straws
@@thexperimenter88link please 😂
This video in a nutshell- "Other countries are working together and agreeing to prices for goods and services for the benefit of the people in those countries. How can we stop this?"
hahaha :')
Mata-i curva tactu-i bou au nascut un curdevaca
Well said and stated perfectly.
cheaper russian oil means cheaper oil at the pump for Indian and Chinese citizens. Win win for everyone except Western elitist losers@intelbro3097
India
I like how when the talking heads at Bloombers bring up "Russian invasion of Ukraine" they always must throw in a bunch of qualifiers like "illegal and unprovoked attack on a European country". The assumption being that US and NATO led invasions of primarily non-European (except Yugoslavia) countries populated by dark-skinned peoples were of course perfectly "legal" and somehow "provoked".
"Soviet propagandists during the cold war were trained in a tactic that their western interlocutors nicknamed 'whataboutism'. Any criticism of the Soviet Union (Afghanistan, martial law in Poland, imprisonment of dissidents, censorship) was met with a 'What about...' (apartheid South Africa, jailed trade-unionists, the Contras in Nicaragua, and so forth)."
Edward Lucas, Economist, 2008
@@threethrushesas if it were something bad to point out Western propagandists about their hypocrisy and double standards
@@threethrushesjust pointing at western hypocrisy doesn't make one a soviet/russian propagandist. Even a country which has no interest in Usa or Russia can observe these things and make a comment.
@biohazard8295 but it's a misleading comment. I don't see the hypocrisy. Russia is making an attempt to permanently annex what would then become contiguous Russian territory. When have NATO members expanded their borders like that in the modern era?
@@threethrushes pointing out hypocrisy is a dark art conceived in soviet laboratories. Nobody else was able to invent this technology. Western neurologists argue there's something unusual about soviet brain anatomy and skull shape that they are capable of such uncultured barbarity.
Ru doesn't have a "shadow fleet" -- Ru has a "fleet"
Everyone is evil if you don't say "yes sir to wast"
@@doki1146 Dont know the man !?
@@JimTimber think he means the west, man :)
The West want to sanction black market and underground kings.
Come on 😂😂😂
Shadow? With those volumes? …that’s a major fleet !
The Shadow Rulers of the West ( The 👃 Tribe )
"Shadow fleet" means boat not operated by the EU or the US. We literally can't cope with other nations trading with eachother.
@parabot2, I'm glad that there are more people redpilled on the parasitic practices of the 👃 tribe.
Yeah but it's "shadowey"😂
Shadow means it dose not follow any regulations at sea or international law´s. is just one of many things that makes it Shadow. not cuz its not visible or only travel in moonlight.
Shadow tanker Environment accident?? What about volontary north stream pipeline explosion??
non-western tankers fleet and services are gonna be the norm in the near future, and they won’t be called “shadow fleet” from there on!
if you become an enemy of the West...you get many labels...and they become the commandos
And the non-West is basically 85 % of the world...
What does it even mean? Non-western = shadow fleet? What a bunch of arrogant has-been imperialists.
They're not called "shadow fleet" now except by the American imperialists. Everyone else just calls them ships.
@@ixmini2561literally and figuratively 😂😂😂😂
The world is no longer western-centric. That ship has sailed - pun intended.
Nice one.😂
Wishful thinking. Even now the largest oil producer and exporter in the entire world is the USA. We dominate virtually every industry in existence. China and Russia are on the path to economic isolation, China is now in a recession as a result.
Sure, like the Roman Empire once did. @@caladr9367
@@caladr9367bro, take a walk outside and breathe fresh air, you don’t seem to be doing well..
@@caladr9367 You’re on drugs if you believe the US dominate every industry and everybody they don’t like is in recession. Despite the fact that reality is the exact opposite.
The term "Illegal Trading" (16:12) is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The sale of goods and services should not be restricted.
You can see from this video that how much Bloomberg (US government backend) is fearing that the world is no longer under US 😅
You clearly don’t understand how the media works in the United States.
@@tradorj8354 I wasn’t replying to you. So you can keep waiting.
@@tradorj8354 you mean Julian Assange? And what about that ABC journalist that disappeared?
Bloomberg is US government mouth piece and ain't independent nothing about it
don't you have a car warranty to call on?
Commerce and money will always flow forward, it has for millennia. No amount of rules, laws and sanctions will stop that.
If I was an investigative journalist, this is one of the jobs I would allow an intern to carry out.
US still buying uranium from Russia and has a deal of sending astronauts through Russia,can you imagine ?
Shhhhh! This is Bloomberg News!! We don't talk about obviously nasty stories that the Clinton's orchestrated and got paid for! Stick to the script man!! Oil bad! Orange man bad! More government to solve stuff!
@@howdytooty So basically this nation which was forcing everyone to stop importing from Russia in February 2022, took 18 months to stop its own imports ? There should be a H in USA which would stand for hypocrisy.
@@howdytooty Do you know why they left a loophole in the law? The law is for the rest of the world and the United States will buy Russian fuel. Cause. In Russia, the laser method of purifying uranium is used, while in the USA the oldest chemical method is used. The cleaner the fuel, the more stable the reactor operates. I am 100% sure that the aircraft carrier and all US submarines using nuclear energy operate on Russian fuel
And you don’t have technology, and we will no longer give the world our developments and discoveries
USA show us other face but he is himself a cheater
@@nitishpundir5474 translate?
Indian oil is laced with freedom and democracy.. so stop complaining!
What about the stolen Syrian oil? Is it laced with terror & occupation?
@@CaptainDickGs It is NATO who pays ISIS to steal oil from Syria. Everyday 8000 containers of oil makes its way into the EU. None of Syria's neighbours need their oil: Russia and Iran have enough of their own.
Well said 😊
So shadow figures can make money off of arms deals but others can't make money off of oil..😂
You cannot sanction something that you not buy not sell and cross your territory.
reply: see reality
Yes we can, you are waging war against civilized world
In fact, you can if you stop paying for goods that are made from illegal resources
@@ratikonjaria7648 then you don't get resources if you do not pay bro
@@ttemp2631 is there anything west can not produce? Look around, anything you own started from your phone, a car or an internet provider to simplest light bulbs in your house is a western technology. If it comes to that the west has a lot more leverage
Some Western leaders along with supporters and media corporations have succeeded in getting BRICS and others to adopt onshoring, nearshoring and friend-shoring principles. This creates increased competition for Western businesses and it promotes resilience in other parts of the World. It was entirely predictable and as has been mentioned, if sanctions were genuine then the costs to the West, especially Europe, would be huge. They have become masters of looking like they're taking meaningful action while avoiding some of the short term inflationary downside.
very true and they are doing it in a smart way that keeps the majority people at bay. The penalties a tiny so can be easily paid by the rule breakers.
Gazprom just got a Gas Refinery contract with South African State Owned Refinery PetroSA. As BRICS members we actually see that as normal and not shadow nonsense
That "Shadowy World" is 85% of the World. The other 15% is called The West. 😂
He literally said 10% is shadow you droid.
We know who are fueling wars in another countries .
who ?
@@acepilledi think you already know the answer to that
@@acepilled Uncle sam obviously. Everyone knows
They are hypocrites.
@@badbad-catwith a comrade Lenin.😂
Sanctions can be seen as war thus skirting them is part of defense.
More sanctions needed
Price cap is a prime example of academic gymnastics that only works on paper and how insane policies have become
U.S. interference in markets at home or abroad is always a winning policy, right? How'd that prohibition on alcohol work out a century ago?
Who runs the West is the big issue ( The 👃 Tribe )
I Love the UK stooges Crying 😭 on this program that they cant stop Russia from selling oil.
They can stop buying Chinese and Indian goods that are made with that oil tho forcing those countries to stop buying Russian resources.
They also can fund Ukraine with Russian sanctioned 350 Billion as reparations
@@ratikonjaria7648 Redditgenerals have entered the topic xDD
@@ratikonjaria7648как быстро встанет европейская экономика без импорта из Китая в 650 млрд евро?
@@ratikonjaria7648😂😂😂😂 cope harder
BRICS nations working as a team to do what they initially wanted to do and that is to have economic systems that are different from the West
I don’t get how this price cap works. Who are we to tell some countries the price they can sell their stuff for??
Thats because it doesn't work. Who would have thought that you can buy a ship and ship the cargo yourself to whomever wants to buy it. And then, as it turns out, you don't even need to buy a ship, because there is a market for moving your cargo, and since all the others are banned, its a first come first served basis, causing the market to go crazy in price. Welcome.
except it does work, just not to the extent US/EU thought they might work, why do you think India and China are buying Russian oil at discount? Of course price cap works, it should be lowered to $30@@contemporarymonk
@@ozinvesting6517lol... You are living under delusion.
This is actually nonsense, since this game can be played by two people. Imagine if potential buyers of iPhones in each individual country set their own price for their purchase)
You call it MONOPOLY
So basically… we’re gonna try to tell the seller how much he’s allowed to charge the buyers (us) bc we don’t wanna give him too much money. Would America ever abide by Russias demand for such. Cap or exports for their financial gain. This is dumb.
I think it’s brilliant. We should apply this concept widely to lower prices.
Гордость за Россию после таких видео. Это ж надо в одиночку противостоять гегемону с его шестерками!
Очень круто снято. Россия реально мощная, независимая и свободная страна!
Цены на продукты растут потихоньку, надо побольше денег зарабатывать как то и по сути проблем то нет. По большому счёту главная беда в РФ - разобщённость разработок военных и гражданских, и в общем и целом ленивость и тех и других. Вот что нам надо больше всего - наше железо и наш софт, чтобы заменить Windows везде, и чтобы не пользоваться ни Intel, ни AMD, т.к. очевидно что в них закладки.
I couldn't see how it would work in the first place. You can't just remove that much oil from the market.
....the point was NOT to reduce oil from the market by too much
@@jameslawrence3666 ? That's not what I said.
The Authorities (western government's) have done their job to placate their electorates. They won't really enforce this. Have to balance verbiage and inflation.
Well mate you should be a business man.This game is fantastic,fast money
It works. The Russian budget is telling a different story.b😂
India is the middle man between Russia and the West 😅....
a certain gujju getting richer by day
India did a smart thing
Mind Begs the Question:
- If under a Indian PM/Govt
- Protesting Rapes is Sedition,Jailed
- Gang Rapists are Celebrated,Freed
- Indian PM/Govt is Democratic or Fascist?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeingstake that to the leftist court
Working hard to bring in the toilets.
The chief concern of Washington is that it's not them profiting from these deals.
"They are gonna be accidents "
You mean like Nordstream. 😂
Hypocrisy next level unlocked
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nordstream died down a couple weeks when the gas leaked out. These tankers, in case of an accident, they will create a massive ecosystem disaster.
Control of these chips is a MUST for EU navies and coast guards. Tracking them is tough but and oil tankers is huge, slow and there is always 1 thing: one of the tankers has to be stationary and while the 2nd is not "there", track both due they are a few kilometers apart and impound BOTH. The captain always use forged paperwork but 100,000 tons of oil x 60 dollars per barrel means: 6million dollars plus the ageing ship which is worth more than the oil.
Bottom line: if there's a middle men, means seller is loosing a margin.
What happens when the middle man is also the seller
Or Buyers are paying more, gasoline is up quite a bit
The seller ALWAYS gets their Profit after selling to Middle man. The Buyer from Middle man is the one getting price gouged.
What a fool. The middleman is the one paying more.
yes, but not much
Leave Russia alone then you'll have peace
Stop saying it was “unprovoked”. Invasion was provoked. It has been a public knowledge for while already.
Russia's invasion didn't do this, our response did. Don't conflate the two.
Russia has not launched an 'unprovoked attack' on Ukraine. Go ask the American and UK government if you want to know who brought this conflict about.
America law does not apply to Russia for certain
Or the rest of the world
How can they survive without Us. Not acceptable
😂😂
Genius of geniuses or just a Fool! The era is over! Greetings from Russia!😂
Iran, North Korea,Syria and Cuba says hi
I love to see Westerns complaining about the disfunction of sanctions. Who gave you the authority to force other nations to do what you want? It is not any more the western period, we will see more and more drifting toward the east.
how dare they live without us unbareble
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Outsmarted on ALL levels. I'm all for it.
Russian Sanctions: Rich getting richer and poor getting poorer. Everything working just as expected!
If we dont know you, you arent alowed to have that much money is basicly what they are saying.
It's incredible to see the difference in standard citizen outlooks with this documentary.
We've as a population have realised that US/UK etc have shafted us for so long from their profiteering/Tax from the world, that were now happy they've avoided idiotic western tax to drop into the elite pockets.
Keep going. Create your own system, as you are your own country.
Not Russias war ,American, like all they have started in recent decades for self gain and interest.
And the only country that has used nuclear weapons in the entire history of mankind is the USA (against the Japanese, because they could not fight back)
The Anti-Russian US coup in Ukraine in 2014 was one US coup too far !
This is a very worrying symptom....if India and China aren't on board with any sanctions on a particular country, those sanctions are SEVERELY blunted ,and the thing is these markets are still growing...in 20 years time The balance of power will swing back East fully as it has always been ...the USA and it's allies are wasting precious political capital beginning with the invasion of Iraq and support for Israel has only accelerated this wastage, political capital they might have used to convince at least India to be in their camp...now India and Russia are firmly in one camp and very soon India and China will start using Russia as a go between and this is where the BRICS alliance becomes powerful....it's not because they like each other but it's because they have a platform where they can discuss their issues as peers and focus on creating a world order that favours them, India and China may not like each other but as long as they have a platform where they can cooperate, they will spend less resources on looking for ways to finish each other but more resources on economic development.
You are only partly correct.
Honestly Russia isn't anymore effective in reining in CCP...in fact Putin is CCP's junior partner because CCP is literally holding the Russian economy in interdependence in its own favour.
Even India can't hope to get a mediator role from Russia against CCP. It all depends on how crazy or rational CCP will conduct itself...and that's extremely unpredictable
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Just because America says its illegal doesnt make it illegal. People still need to live.
As one who's followed the murky shipping business for decades: I say well done!
Why does Russia need to play by your rules?? You may think you run the world but you don’t. Well done Russia…stay strong, onwards and upwards 😂
This video made me think "how great the Russian economy is, and how irresistible America is". 🤗
What the problem. US stealing oil from smaller countries what the bloody problem lol. 😂😂😂😂😂❤
price cap is working and Russia is winning ....so everybody is happy
US and Europe are like: Somebody stop them😂😂
The west is still living in the colonial era. This is not 1850. But 2023.
To the US and its western allies stop telling what the rest should do. Its NOT your Oil and so STOP trying to dictate terms. If there is an oil spill than its the US and EU who would be responsible..
If you destroy terminals, then there is no more shadow fleet.
El podrido y obsoleto G7 🇺🇸🇬🇧💩🇩🇪🇨🇦🇨🇵🇮🇹🇯🇵 le temen al gran 🐻🇷🇺
😂😂😂they now realize that they is a world outside the west
Cheap Russian oil and gas will make Chinese and Indian manufacturing more competitive than western counterparts.
and maybe it will expedite the war between the two.
@@justmehello5543it is a wish for American, but India and China have been managing their disputes for over 6 decades.
America is not benefitting, that's the major problem here.
$5 Billion in shadow shipping is small change compared to $200 Billion US has funded Ukraine!
Does that include the 5 billion dollars the US has spent to overthrow the government of Ukraine back in 2014?
2:20 "unprovoked illegal invasion of a European nation" where does this guy live Mars ?
He is just another typical Anglo-American regime propagandist. Please forgive him. He gets paid to spout these lies.
Western Hypocrisy has no limits. In the beginning of this clip Bloomberg states that this is an illegal war.. Can you please point out if Iraq, Libya , Syria and many others were legal or not? NATO and west are responsible for this war and you may want to investigate defence lobby in this war
will americablow up those tankers just like they blew up nordstream pipeline, destroy local wildlife and cause a huge natural disaster then blame old oil tankers for the tragedy?
The British talk like they own the Russian oil.
Wait, so neither Russia nor India are breaking any rules and America are salty they aren't getting a cut? Colour me shocked. If the rules are wrong, then change them.
The CIA is always working hard yet one step away from Russia. 😂😂
When Singapore made that decision in early 2022. They were just going with what they thought was the flow. Thier government was told by thier advisors that Russia was a gas station masquerading as a country. Because that's what they were told when doing a dodgy degree in geo politics at some ivy league university.
At the time the decision was made I bet not a single Singaporean politician knew what or where Donbass is.
This is the highest level of neocon hot air nonsense. These old tankers were built in 1997 and 2002. The average age of the US fleet is over 40 years old. The US has no justification to criticize anyone about ship ages.
Putin is a mastermind
So this oil guy is saving the planet !!!! not just jealous of the fact they have cut themselves out the market .
"Diese Arbeit ist ein wahres Kunstwerk. Bravo!
Russia needs to establish it's own insurance company and slowly complete getting rid of western services.
By the way, most of those ships are insured in the BRICS nations. It is no longer a preserve of western companies to issue insurance. The world is moving on without them at all
Russia needs to leave Ukraine, simple as that.
I think we should implement a price cap on Porsches. It’s not fair that my dream car is this expensive. 😅
LOL
2:18 “unprovoked, illegal attack”
Unprovoked? I doubt that
The music lol. Guys it’s not a horror movie
On the contrary 😂
It is a propaganda hit piece.
Shadow fleet ? The seas are a global common. Not private property or ruled by the West.
I believe AIS spoofing is rather easy to do. Also the ship Turba might be using AIS which runs in Stealth mode, where the system only listen for AIS signal from other ships nearby but does not emits any signal from it's own AIS.
am curious as to who appointed USA as the defector ruler of the world?? why don't you just leave people alone to conduct their affairs in peace.
@@tradorj8354Ukraine and Nato did . When they wanted to join an anti-Russian alliance other than staying neutral . Both Ukraine and Georgia were invited to join Nato on '08 Bucharest summit , they paid a blood prize for that opportunity.
@@anbang4531well said bro😅
@@tradorj8354offensive or defensive Does not mean a thing In The Eye Of The Great power
Just like Human right does not mean a thing In The Eye Of The great power
that would be U.N. voted which means everyone agreed except for a few lap dogs.
and when did this happen, wait it was after hiroshima and nagasaki right? news flash everybody has nukes now and can make one. the days of a multipolar world is over@@justmehello5543
So, the Russians have their own ships. Who would've thunk...
Чувствуешь гордость за страну! Никто не делает столько для крутого имиджа России, как враги наши 😂
Russia has every right to be prosperous
It’s one mighty nation
The price cap has never worked and will never work. Europe believes it's the center of the world but it's only 1/8 of the worlds population. If Europe don't buy, other will.
We blame Russia for all and the truth is we are agressors in this conflict, When will US and EU be responsible and accountable for half mil of dead Ukraine soldiers who died for no reason at all other then american and EU plans to get more rich?
Shadow fleet! no way freedom fleet.
Slava Russia ..
This video is hilarious. From the music to the overly dramatic terms and constant suggestion that this is somehow illegal. It isn’t.
Sanctions and price caps like this are not international law. They are national.
It is the EU and US saying to big companies, “Make a choice. Do business with us or them.”
The EU always knew that the price cap would be circumvented by some. In exactly the same way that the Iranian sanctions regime has been circumvented. Everyone in the industry knew this would happen. Getting prissy about it is silly.
If the EU really wanted to destroy Russian revenue then they should invest heavily in renewables globally (not just in the EU) and start fracking the HUGE amounts of shale oil and gas deposits in places like Poland. As every school kid learning economics knows, reducing demand and increasing supply is the way to collapse the price of something…
…But that would upset both the oil companies and the environmentalists. So here we are blaming the Russians for responding in exactly the way we expected. 😂
It was not an unprovoked attack by russia