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What Makes You a Degenerate? | Stoic Philosophy

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  • Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
  • The ancient Stoics based their morals on reason. They created an ethical system that focuses on living in agreement with nature, or, a universal rational principle. Stoic ethics distinguish virtues from vices, seeing a life of virtue as the optimal way to live. From the Stoic point of view, someone who lives a life of vice can be considered a degenerate.
    This video explores a couple of examples from Stoic literature on how the ancient Stoics saw degeneracy or, put differently, a bad and sub-par way of life leading to unhappiness.
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    00:00 - Intro
    02:30 - Living in agreement with Zeus
    04:01 - Fighting fate
    05:50 - The man who cheated
    07:54 - Laying in bed all day
    09:46 - Sickly pale of lust

Комментарии • 1,4 тыс.

  • @Ryan-Horgan
    @Ryan-Horgan 2 года назад +2213

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      @swolejeezy2603 2 года назад +87

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      @dork_face 2 года назад +19

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  • @LucidLivingLL
    @LucidLivingLL 2 года назад +2149

    Avoid degeneracy through mastery of self. Mastering life is not the goal, but to master one's own attitudes towards it makes man a creator rather than a degenerate.
    -Much love from a growing RUclipsr

    • @JaysonT1
      @JaysonT1 2 года назад +34

      Don't you have somewhere else to sell your life coach channel?

    • @LucidLivingLL
      @LucidLivingLL 2 года назад +14

      @@JaysonT1 who said anything about selling?

    • @divinestep3251
      @divinestep3251 2 года назад +12

      Feel the Nietzsche's vibes reading your comment!

    • @LucidLivingLL
      @LucidLivingLL 2 года назад +2

      @@divinestep3251 bro I love Nietzche!

    • @divinestep3251
      @divinestep3251 2 года назад +15

      @@LucidLivingLL I really like his philosophy! I'm just starting to learn about him. I'm so glad RUclips's algorithm led me to philosophies.. it's so helpful for me to know there have been people with thoughts similar to mine and even better perspectives than mine. It's inspirational and a relief to know I'm not an alien lol.

  • @FromIdeologytoUnity
    @FromIdeologytoUnity 2 года назад +379

    If you're beating yourself up after watching this video, to benefit from this stoic wisdom you must accept where you're at, the state you are in, and have compassion for yourself. If you feel insufficient, and believe yourself insufficient, that will be the result, as vice will be how you cope. Accept yourself as you are and virtue comes naturally, as long as virtue is what you intend, that is, and even if it isn't.

    • @chucksmash1
      @chucksmash1 2 года назад +7

      Very well said. Thank you.

    • @conversationcorner1837
      @conversationcorner1837 2 года назад

      I think that beating yourself up is a way to remain the same and not doing what is needed to change.

    • @michaelmorse4444
      @michaelmorse4444 2 года назад

      I'm genetically inferior trash. There is no changing that. I'm made to be either a slave or a torture victim.

    • @themorningping9075
      @themorningping9075 2 года назад +4

      Caught me there

    • @andyfox6943
      @andyfox6943 2 года назад +5

      And you can always practice to be better. Remember the past is a corpse. Today is here and tomorrow will never come.

  • @Alexzan220
    @Alexzan220 2 года назад +1626

    I don't know how the stoic people gained such wisdom like figuring this all by yourself is really impressive

    • @kenolson3064
      @kenolson3064 2 года назад +307

      To obtain wisdom requires a quiet mind.
      Shut off all of the distractions, control your thoughts, find an unspoiled spot in nature, and observe it's balance.
      Then contemplate your place in it.
      You will find pieces of yourself that fit nicely, and pieces that are at War with those nicely fitting pieces. Bring Harmony too, or Eliminate those waring pieces of yourself. Then it will be easier to see that which is self-evident. Good luck!

    • @JaysonT1
      @JaysonT1 2 года назад +71

      They stole it from eastern philosophies, that's how.

    • @megalomaniachub3856
      @megalomaniachub3856 2 года назад +12

      shutdown your conscious mind and ask.

    • @frog6054
      @frog6054 2 года назад +6

      They're genius.

    • @ye9803
      @ye9803 2 года назад +55

      @@JaysonT1 source?

  • @uncoolcat95
    @uncoolcat95 Год назад +10

    In my opinion the most degenerate way of being is when people lack empathy.

    • @Lupine.
      @Lupine. Год назад +2

      A perceived villain may be more worthy of pity than persecution.

    • @uncoolcat95
      @uncoolcat95 Год назад +1

      @lupine9158 that's stupid and I hate it. -Finn the human

    • @akritasdigenis4831
      @akritasdigenis4831 8 месяцев назад

      You look like you belong in the lgbtq community

  • @shadowflare7230
    @shadowflare7230 2 года назад +325

    The part about lust was a direct cold slap of reality to my face.

    • @Prince_Yonte
      @Prince_Yonte 2 года назад +19

      Deadass

    • @stiofanloingsigh351
      @stiofanloingsigh351 2 года назад +18

      Not what I expected but what I needed.

    • @Anonymous_UserOrNot
      @Anonymous_UserOrNot 2 года назад +5

      same for me

    • @themorningping9075
      @themorningping9075 2 года назад +14

      I already knew but this was icing on the cake

    • @nsebast
      @nsebast 2 года назад +46

      I spent 8 years of my life partying, drinking and fucking. It was fun but useless. It was the most selfish time of my life. I hurt some people over that period, something I am not proud of.

  • @lil----lil
    @lil----lil 2 года назад +149

    "The life of the unexamined is not worth living." My favorite quote of ALL TIME.

    • @jub7345
      @jub7345 2 года назад +4

      can you explain it to me

    • @Dialogos1989
      @Dialogos1989 2 года назад +39

      @@jub7345 it is from Plato, or rather Socrates, during his trial and before his execution. People were annoyed with Socrates and his questioning and brought him to court on trumped up charges of corrupting the youth and impiety. They pressured Socrates to give up his quest for truth. “The unexamined life is not worth living” was his response. He essentially chose death over conformity. But by accepting his fate he honored Athenian law, and showed respect towards those who killed him. Almost a similar story to the sacrifice of Jesus.

    • @Tuco_V.
      @Tuco_V. 2 года назад +1

      @@Dialogos1989 timing is everything, thank you

    • @jub7345
      @jub7345 2 года назад +2

      @@Dialogos1989 interesting but not very similar to Jesus

    • @Dialogos1989
      @Dialogos1989 2 года назад +18

      @@jub7345 both were poor spiritual gurus that amassed followers, denounced the rich, emphasized the health of the soul above all else, betrayed by their own people, and loved them as they “walked to their deaths”.

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      If you don't believe in a shared consciousness between all humans, this is one more reason to believe in it. Synchronicities!

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      @@danroyeliminating265 Algorithms were created by copying The Creator's omniscient design of synchronicity, kismet, and the interconnectedness that is in The Universal Laws of Nature.

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    • @Pav1901
      @Pav1901 2 года назад +1

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  • @altair91100
    @altair91100 Год назад +5

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  • @zackarymckay1375
    @zackarymckay1375 2 года назад +160

    Was thinking about the forms of corruption that plague the minds of our generation. Looking back I used to think drinking, smoking, lying, and lusting after women was sort of a passage into manhood. A way of coming to terms with the unjust, and cruel nature in which we evolved from. However this video is a good example on why I left that stuff behind me.... Accepting that side of the moral compus does an injustice to the people that put their full faith in their community.

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    • @noreenebostick9593
      @noreenebostick9593 2 года назад +1

      The less I have, the more free I am. Not living to chase after materialism allowed me to be stronger, wiser and better in many of my actions.

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    @created.black.soil. 2 года назад +2

    Painful truths most people became unaware of. Needed it, thank you.

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    For those reading this right now, remember, you cannot get well in the same environment that made you ill. Hope this helps you today.

  • @MojitoMatt
    @MojitoMatt 2 года назад +9

    It is interesting how you talked about Lust, that it can be any pursuit of something that only gratifies us temporarily, but never makes us feel whole.

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    @Noukz37 2 года назад +13

    Thank you for yet another fantastic video! I share them often on my FB page, I hope it helps bring people over 🙂
    And on the topic, I wonder, would the ancient stoics put playing video games for example, together with the pleasuring of our taste buds and genitals? 😀

  • @lilithsmith1290
    @lilithsmith1290 2 года назад

    Thanks for wonderful narration of the great men mind! Keeps it coming . Once is not enough to listen !

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    This video is awesome. I haven't clicked that sub button so quickly in a while. Thank you!

  • @notsocrates9529
    @notsocrates9529 2 года назад +8

    Laziness and sloth are my biggest flaws at times, I am either 100MPH or nothing at all. I take the thoughts presented here to heart. I can rest when I am dead or old.

  • @adityapande7885
    @adityapande7885 2 года назад +62

    This is by far the best video I have watched in one year. It is so good that I will watch it again tomorrow. This is IMO, your best work so far. Loved it. Absolutely loved it!

  • @Tuco_V.
    @Tuco_V. 2 года назад +2

    This really hit home for me, thank you.

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    @Gashouse5150 2 года назад +1

    Super awesome video and good explaining and story telling

  • @moum23
    @moum23 2 года назад +11


    Your content is always superlative but the ones on Stoicism are exceptional.

    • @JaysonT1
      @JaysonT1 2 года назад

      I prefer his Toaism videos

    • @JaysonT1
      @JaysonT1 2 года назад +1

      @@SunnyMidnite221 Yeah, already watch George. Good cat.

  • @ladyfantastic765
    @ladyfantastic765 2 года назад +5

    love these videos because they force me to hold up a mirror to my true self and take stock of what i see. i certainly have my share of vices. being able to recognize and work on these imperfections is a lifelong task.

  • @Metatron141
    @Metatron141 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for posting. I completely agree with the message.

  • @commslab
    @commslab 2 года назад

    I love your channel mate. Thanks for making these videos.

  • @noreenebostick9593
    @noreenebostick9593 2 года назад +239

    My life experiences and witnessing for 64 years, ten months and four days makes this video natural and living proofs of degenerate. Listening to the part of seeing faces being pale chasing lusts, is answered as to why I asked myself why are so many so unhappy. Now I have a much better understanding knowing the simple truths of discontent in spite of people having facades. Thanks for sharing on RUclips. Everything excessive is degenerate.

    • @ph3619
      @ph3619 2 года назад +3

      How can I come back from that

    • @philippebiendon5809
      @philippebiendon5809 2 года назад +9

      I so agree with you Noreen Bostick.
      I'm 18 years younger than you and feel the same. Cor Values are no longer pass on from generation to generation but dictate by society itself. What was true 5 years ago is no longer relevant today.

    • @BigdaddyHognuts
      @BigdaddyHognuts 2 года назад

      Ur not 64 shutup

    • @saamanthatennege5218
      @saamanthatennege5218 2 года назад

      Aq

    • @beansworth5694
      @beansworth5694 2 года назад +4

      ​@@ph3619 You don't, under the classical stoic understanding of the degenerate. It is the will of the gods that you be cast out and rejected for your failing to adhere to the natural order of rejecting one's nature.
      Don't ask for the stoic's help with combatting your own nature, instead apply the useful elements of their teachings individually. Stoicism doesn't reward vulnerability.

  • @nnn.nnn2
    @nnn.nnn2 2 года назад +64

    I have been suffering from anxiety for years and one of the things that helped me a lot to overcome it, is Stoicism.
    Everytime I read or watch videos about Stoicism I learn a new thing to improve myself.

    • @Mickeycuatropatas
      @Mickeycuatropatas 2 года назад +1

      give up caffeine and your anxiety will lessen

    • @shalashaskax
      @shalashaskax 2 года назад +5

      There’s a modern branch of psychology that’s heavily based on stoicism. It’s called cognitive behavioral therapy. It’s very effective against anxiety, if you find a psychologist that’s specialized on it you will get better in a couple of sessions, no pills needed. If you want to find more about it you can start with the books of doctor burns. Hope it helps.

    • @nnn.nnn2
      @nnn.nnn2 2 года назад +2

      @@shalashaskax Thank you so much!

    • @nnn.nnn2
      @nnn.nnn2 2 года назад +2

      @@Mickeycuatropatas I don't even drink coffee...

  • @vierdoesit
    @vierdoesit 2 года назад +1

    I really enjoyed listening to this. Thanks.

  • @aradi96
    @aradi96 2 года назад

    This is the content I need. I love this channel

  • @TennesseeJed
    @TennesseeJed 2 года назад +7

    I love these videos! I know he's not a stoic but I think you should do one on Diogenes of Sinope sometime.

    • @JaysonT1
      @JaysonT1 2 года назад +4

      Diogenes is classified as stoic.

    • @Crime_Mime
      @Crime_Mime 2 года назад +4

      @@JaysonT1 Diogenes of Sinope is known as Diogenes the Cynic. He died while Zeno of Citium, who went on to found Greek Stoicism, was still young. I'm pretty sure Stoicism is an offshoot of Cynicism, though, as EinzeLganger mentions in one of his books that Zeno was a disciple of Crates the Cynic.
      Diogones:
      Born 412 BC, died 323 BC
      Zeno:
      334 BC, died 262 BC
      Also keep in mind that BC counts down to zero (I keep forgetting that fact).

  • @arturcernonog9915
    @arturcernonog9915 2 года назад +31

    How would you consider the statement: "Everything in moderation, even moderation itself" ?

    • @BlindBosnian
      @BlindBosnian 2 года назад +8

      Paradoxical. If everything is in moderation, then moderation itself is absolute, and thus, not in moderation.

    • @arturcernonog9915
      @arturcernonog9915 2 года назад +1

      @@BlindBosnian true, but how would you answer it in relation to a practitioner of Stoicism. Should a Stoic go off the rails every once in a while? Or should they be consistent and always along the path? Or somewhere in-between?

    • @JaysonT1
      @JaysonT1 2 года назад +2

      @@arturcernonog9915 I believe the Stoic way was to never sway from the mark. Eastern philosophies work more with duelism and walking in the middle.
      Going all out and just losing your shit is usually seen as next to never being beneficial and most the time being harmful in some form or another.

    • @JaysonT1
      @JaysonT1 2 года назад +1

      @@arturcernonog9915 Every action has its price and its pleasure. Being conscious of your choices and accepting responsibility is key

    • @David-eu1ms
      @David-eu1ms 2 года назад +3

      Maybe this is just saying that we shouldn't be averse to pleasure as long as it doesn't control us.

  • @LovelyMie
    @LovelyMie Год назад

    Wow this a very eye opening, very powerful essay. I enjoyed watching this. Thank you so much.

  • @gamal01
    @gamal01 2 года назад

    Excellent piece. Insightful. Much to think on.

  • @amulyamalhi
    @amulyamalhi 2 года назад +44

    EZ, you truly deserve a Nobel Prize for creating such super high-quality videos. Lots of respect & love from India :)

    • @TheRealJaded
      @TheRealJaded 2 года назад +3

      The same Nobel 'peace' prize they gave Obama for breaking the record for most bombs dropped per day in power?

    • @Saber23
      @Saber23 2 года назад +1

      @@TheRealJaded I know right? The Nobel prize is literally a cash grab now it just doesn’t mean shit anymore

  • @matejblaha4659
    @matejblaha4659 2 года назад +30

    Thank you for this great content, I don't know ho you do it but appart from being informative, your videos have the most calming and meditative vibe.
    I think that two crucial points that stoics got wrong is our control over who we are and hence how we act, and the degree to which our society is just.
    We should accept ourselves and the society as it is and try to change it in the same way as we'd try to change someone we love - acceptance cones first, change comes second and you canmot expect too much from it. If you don't accept things the way they are, and the laws by which they opperate, you cannot change them, you can only break them and that is nor just nor virtuous thing to do, it is the worst tging you can possibly do.
    Love comes first, for yourself, your friends, your "enemies", the world.

    • @beansworth5694
      @beansworth5694 2 года назад +6

      Agreed, on all points save for the assertion that breaking a societal code is the worst thing one could do. Sometimes, if the rules are not just one is obligated to undermine them from both within and with out the system

  • @navik786
    @navik786 2 года назад

    Nice work! Thank you for sharing : )

  • @danzimbr
    @danzimbr Год назад

    Man, thank you for this video, incredible work.

  • @Kerwin-Kendell
    @Kerwin-Kendell 2 года назад +40

    It's at times extremely difficult to reconcile with some of this. Also it's difficult to deal with friends & acquaintances who regularly fall short of these things. Recently I had a public event, invited people I knew & few publicly accepted the invite - only 1 attended (first time this happened). I couldn't help being disappointed & angry (not for long though). When I can't attend an event or forget I send apologies & try to make amends - I don't know many who will do the same, no matter how long I've known them. It's difficult to deal with this.

    • @Kerwin-Kendell
      @Kerwin-Kendell 2 года назад +6

      @Bill Courtney never said I was above it. Expressing smthg doesn't always mean you're trying to gain. If you let it out in reasonable way it's helpful. I did think maybe someone might give useful insight, but either way I deal. Cheers.

  • @ryancier
    @ryancier 2 года назад +5

    It is ironic and counterintuitive, and yet it is when you accept your fate and die to it, that you overcome it.
    When you fight and resist, your fate only wraps itself around you all the harder.

    • @kagaria
      @kagaria 2 года назад +2

      I wonder why tho

    • @beansworth5694
      @beansworth5694 2 года назад +2

      @@kagaria In acceptance fear is cast aside, improving one's capability to fight fate if they so will it.

  • @D0MIN0W4LKER
    @D0MIN0W4LKER 2 года назад

    Your videos guides us to heal, thank you. I learned something new today and will be a better man.

  • @richardanderson2
    @richardanderson2 2 года назад +2

    I do love the wisdom of the stoics! Great video!

  • @starkillerclub3755
    @starkillerclub3755 2 года назад +23

    I just had to watch this to find out if my sneaky suspicion, that I, myself am a degenerate, is correct.

  • @vanessakg8883
    @vanessakg8883 2 года назад +3

    If only society would accept these virtues! What wonderful words to live by and to embrace

  • @HonestTimes
    @HonestTimes 2 года назад

    Your content @Einzelgänger is worth gold!

  • @billm3061
    @billm3061 2 года назад

    Great video. Keep up the good work.

  • @mosamaster
    @mosamaster 2 года назад +7

    This is exactly what anyone living in a mature society do. Live with decency and mutual respect. 💓

  • @charlesdahmital8095
    @charlesdahmital8095 2 года назад +14

    "What ever happens, assume that it was bound to happen and do not be willing to rail at nature."
    The problem with this passage is that all things you do then fall under the premise it was bound to happen.
    Therefore, you cannot be a degenerate. Even while cheating on your spouse.

    • @theflamingone8729
      @theflamingone8729 2 года назад +7

      Yep, an excuse to abrogate personal accountability.

    • @charlesdahmital8095
      @charlesdahmital8095 2 года назад

      @Shogun Have you met his wife?

    • @charlesdahmital8095
      @charlesdahmital8095 2 года назад

      @Shogun OK Now reverse the position and you will find the fault.

    • @Maiu13
      @Maiu13 2 года назад +5

      Seems to me that this passage is regarding outside events and not events that you produced or had a part in.

  • @gh0streduxXgaming
    @gh0streduxXgaming 2 года назад

    Thank you for this video, keep it up!

  • @sospeterojowaoloo
    @sospeterojowaoloo Год назад

    This is so Powerful and Elevating .A must listen to everyone.

  • @usmc72409
    @usmc72409 2 года назад +24

    Makes me think of society today. So much fighting. Losing sense of societal values. Def see some degeneration here in the US

    • @Mii.2.0
      @Mii.2.0 2 года назад +10

      That's what every generation throughout American history have said.
      _"Every generation imagines itself to be more intelligent than the one that went before it, and wiser than the one that comes after it.”_
      ~ *George Orwell*

    • @usmc72409
      @usmc72409 2 года назад +3

      @@Mii.2.0 Orwell is kind of saying the opposite in a way. Bc I think our intelligence as a society has been weakened. Logic and reason seems to not be used as much. Ppl seem to really focus on labeling everything. Not only do a lot of us not use the proper definition or change the definitions over time, but sticking everyone into a category seems to be doing the opposite of uniting us. Things are so polarized at this point. The mainstream and social media is a huge addition to that problem. Maybe all the generations felt that in some way. Easier to make sense of something over time. When we’re right up on it, it may seem worse or better then it actually is.

    • @Mii.2.0
      @Mii.2.0 2 года назад

      @@usmc72409 Why not do something about it?

    • @Mii.2.0
      @Mii.2.0 2 года назад +1

      @@usmc72409 And, there will always be people in the future who will not use logic & reason & label things & people. Also,, the past is much worse than now.

    • @tolloromassi99
      @tolloromassi99 2 года назад

      Some? US is the exporter of deg...eneracy to the world!

  • @friedrichnietzsche2557
    @friedrichnietzsche2557 2 года назад +5

    "If internet can't teach you how to improve your life nothing will." F. Nietzsche

  • @robsie7777
    @robsie7777 2 года назад +1

    Excellent presentation - thank you

  • @aquablue9912
    @aquablue9912 2 года назад +106

    I sometimes wonder whether focusing more of your mental energy on controlling your reaction to events might cause you to fall into a passive acceptance of the circumstances.

    • @wildoo9870
      @wildoo9870 2 года назад +50

      "Anything in excess is a fault."
      In attempting to accept the uncontrollable, don't neglect looking for what can influenced and controlled. I would place this alongside laziness as a vice as its consequences are the same.

    • @heinmolenaar6750
      @heinmolenaar6750 2 года назад

      The main factor of degeneracy is controle

    • @vaga427
      @vaga427 2 года назад +1

      When I understood after courageously fighting the system and having exhausted all options and probably suffering more than if I had accepted the fate( which itself was bad) it was more of an unconscious realization. So, to answer you from my viewpoint, everyone has a different limit and God(?) 's time for intervention.
      After that, and again subconsciously, I chose the option of finding out for myself the answers to the hard questions of life, and knowing no better it implied seeking God. For this, according to the two models/ paths available in my culture, namely attending holy communes or a life of an ascetic, I chose the latter. But again due to familial duties as well as lack of absolute conviction in the same, I had to come up with a creative solution. To that end I chose the alternatives to the two cornerstones of asceticism- 1) Denial( of sensory/ worldly pleasures) and partially substituted with denial of Self- Respect, as worldly pleasures such as life partner , etc. were shamelessly denied to me by the evil that has come to represent and paints with one broad brush my entire fellow countrymen.
      2) Tolerance ( of for e.g. harsh conditions like climate, environment,etc.) with Tolerance of my fellow countrymen's evil.
      Unfortunately, Einzelganger didn't dwell atall on this seeming paradox between 'giving in' and courage. Though, thankfully I did get the comfort of knowing that courage itself is considered a virtue, as the religion( hinduism)I was born into has no explicit classification of courage as a virtue in as much as that whether one will be judged for bad karma if one doesn't show courage and instead lives like the Biblical decree of meek shall inherit the earth.

    • @JK-vc7ie
      @JK-vc7ie 2 года назад +6

      You have this 100% wrong. Literally the whole point of stoicism is taking action and “not passively crying over spilt milk”.
      You control your energy towards working on thing over which you have control.
      For example, if you interview for a job and don’t get it then the stoic response is to put it behind you and work harder, work on your experience, networking, interviewing skills, etc.
      In your scenario are you suggesting that pouting, crying and not accepting that you didn’t get hired is the proactive, positive or aggressive approach?

    • @AnonYmous-ez4es
      @AnonYmous-ez4es 2 года назад +1

      Yes. Apathy is the sister of tolerance.

  • @LiborTinka
    @LiborTinka 2 года назад +5

    I used to feel bad from the cold fact of impermanence - that all good things will decay and perish. But wait - that also means all bad things will decay and perish, too. Everything will be destroyed and recycled in the neverending universal dance. And we can choose to dance along and thrive or resist the nature and suffer. And there is a huge wiggle space in between that makes the play interesting - some people call that 'life'. That's a somewhat positive view for me.

    • @Tribuneoftheplebs
      @Tribuneoftheplebs 2 года назад +1

      Being upset with impermanence seems to make the assumption that what matters is the end point. Not the journey itself. The movement though time.

    • @LiborTinka
      @LiborTinka 2 года назад +1

      @@Tribuneoftheplebs I have few life goals after which I can safely say I can die happily - since I am not there yet, not by far, it constantly makes me nervous. I try to enjoy the journey but you often have to sacrifice something for something else, like sacrificing time of taking boring math classes to enjoy beauty of math, or chess, or dance ... The sacrifice is not pleasant especially if one knows he can die before it even starts to pays off. If life cuts your endeavor short (injury, terminal illnes etc. etc.), then there is a sense of being "betrayed" by life, that you were only giving and sacrificing and never got anything "back". I know it's silly - I know life is not fair. It's just a really bitter pill to swallow. E.g. knowing that people who worked much less than you reap much more benefits just due to sheer luck. I hope - by the principle of impermanence - there will be infinite more lifes to enjoy all it's joys and horrors, maybe...

    • @Tribuneoftheplebs
      @Tribuneoftheplebs 2 года назад +1

      @@LiborTinka fantastic comment because it made me think. Do you listen to the daily stoic podcast by Ryan Holliday? Very popular podcast. Today's episode plus your comment really made me think. I recommend it to you if you haven't already seen it.

    • @Tribuneoftheplebs
      @Tribuneoftheplebs 2 года назад +1

      @@LiborTinka "What would you do less of? | what expensive things cost" is the specific title of the episode

  • @timmccarty8111
    @timmccarty8111 2 года назад +1

    Wow.
    Your most useful video to date.

  • @johnhenrix3894
    @johnhenrix3894 2 года назад +1

    Awesome work.

  • @glennsimonsen8421
    @glennsimonsen8421 2 года назад +5

    So interesting! Thanks for this insightful description of stoicism. Those people were trying hard with what they had. Their ideas were pale compared to the Kingdom values soon to burst forth in Greece and Rome from the strange and humble followers of a teacher from Galilee. The world was about to change in ways the Stoics could never have imagined!

    • @hklinker
      @hklinker 2 года назад

      No.

    • @AtreyuHuxley
      @AtreyuHuxley Год назад

      ​@@hklinker
      Oh but yes. You don't become one of the most famous characters in all of human history for no reason. It's all rather elementary my friend. You should try and take a deeper dive into the true essence of the man, instead of the whitewashed version you've been given by the masses.....you know, the ones who highjacked his otherworldly and divine vision in order to make it their own.

  • @WisdominQuotes
    @WisdominQuotes 2 года назад +8

    "Everything is good when it leaves the hands of the Creator; everything degenerates in the hands of man."
    ~~Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Emile; or, On Education [1762], I.

    • @noreenebostick9593
      @noreenebostick9593 2 года назад

      Everything degenerates going against what God has said and created. One’s own shows how far off a person is from the creator of the universe.

    • @davyroger3773
      @davyroger3773 2 года назад +1

      in other words ideals are perfect, implementation is not

  • @kukywuky6791
    @kukywuky6791 2 года назад

    Brilliant essay. I have thoroughly enjoyed it.

  • @seddik6522
    @seddik6522 2 года назад +2

    Hi Einzelganger !! Every time I watch one of your videos it is very professional and informative and makes me feel better. Please can you do a video about zen philosophy called "No Mind''. Thank you 🙏

  • @chickenlittle1687
    @chickenlittle1687 2 года назад +15

    A slave places loyalty above rationality.
    A fool places faith above responsibility.

    • @JaysonT1
      @JaysonT1 2 года назад +1

      @Ghost Tape No. 9 Cheetah inspire them to run.

  • @TheDhammaHub
    @TheDhammaHub 2 года назад +55

    The marks & features of "evil men" or "fools" are remarkably similar among many schools of thought. Morality and immorality are truly universal

    • @TheDhammaHub
      @TheDhammaHub 2 года назад +11

      @Ghost Tape No. 9 Well, nature surely does know "beneficial for a species" and "not beneficial for a species". Practically all moral systems are based on observing what is and is not beneficial

    • @SkylarRuloff
      @SkylarRuloff 2 года назад +16

      @@TheDhammaHub If morality is only based on what is based on "what benefits a species" then wouldn't it be moral for all men to try to forcibly impregnate as many women as they can to pass on their genes? Morals are made up by people. There is no such thing as universal morals. Some cultures think it's ok to have full grown men marry young girls. Some cultures think that it's ok to sacrifice humans to invisible gods. Morals are just what people say to criticize people who do stuff they disagree with.

    • @tdesq.2463
      @tdesq.2463 2 года назад +6

      @@SkylarRuloff I agree that there is no truly objective morality, and that it is a purely subjective phenomenon. I also believe that subjectivity is not confined to the individual, but can apply to a collective group ... even all Humanity. Rational minds do think alike at certain fundamental levels. Personally, I believe there are certain modes of being/behaviors that a Healthy Human society can and should collectively condemn as immoral and destructive on various levels.
      On the individual level: Here's a good subjective rule: If You would not want it done to You, don't do it anyone else. Unless, of course, someone else has already violated that rule. In which case measures toward the reinforcement of healthy rules through the promotion of deterrence (general & specific) against such repeated conduct are properly in order.
      Excellent Note! 👍👍👍

    • @moum23
      @moum23 2 года назад +3

      @@tdesq.2463 Good point: rationale for happiness is subjective for both, individual and their collective. This automatic thinking ensures enforcement of boundaries both in the personal and the collective space.

    • @beansworth5694
      @beansworth5694 2 года назад

      @@TheDhammaHub So morality is subjective to benefit. The key reason morality cannot be considered objective is because of the different systems of evaluating 'benefit' that are, by a large degree, determined by taste, none which have an ultimate core of verifiable truth. 'Benefit for whom' is something that comes to mind.

  • @SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit
    @SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 2 года назад

    Thank you for this insightful summary

  • @Tonkagang
    @Tonkagang 2 года назад

    That was awesome. Thank you.

  • @KING-ll2mz
    @KING-ll2mz 2 года назад +88

    I think that it is pretty cool that, in many ways, stoicism is kind of like a western version of Taoism

    • @oneidea1121
      @oneidea1121 2 года назад +19

      Different interpretations of the same workings of the universe

    • @QuietlyCurious
      @QuietlyCurious 2 года назад

      Ugh LOVE the Tao Te Ching (I know, not a Taoist thing to say)

    • @hamzaferoz6162
      @hamzaferoz6162 2 года назад +2

      Isn't it more akin to Chinese Legalism* or Fajia

    • @stariadreamtea
      @stariadreamtea 2 года назад +7

      Not at all. The Tao is much more relaxed. Stoicism can be quite rigid, follows a set of rules and lays value judgements on things.
      The Tao is spiritual, often beyond duality, beyond struggle and advocates for going with the flow instead of struggling again the tide.
      "Lao Tzu" is also depicted laughing and drinking wine. "He" (there was no singular teacher) was a free spirit, a jovial old man archetype. Far from dealing with life the Stoic way.

    • @KING-ll2mz
      @KING-ll2mz 2 года назад +4

      @@stariadreamtea The similarities that I saw were that major components of both philosophies had to do with accepting things as they are. Taoists realized that if you do something, other things happen in response. They concluded that fighting against these responses would only lead to more pain. The Stoics realized that if you do certain things, there would be certain responses. They concluded that following strict rules was the best way to overcome pain. Both philosophies realize the same thing, but go different directions when it comes to answering the problems.
      I think that this shows the differences, in general, of western and eastern philosophy. The western world concluded that the individual could overcome the pains that the world pushed through their own strength. The eastern world concluded that accepting their position in the world, to go along with the world’s whims, would be the best way to avoid pain.

  • @daniels1503
    @daniels1503 2 года назад +3

    I dont know if it's just me, but I typically enjoy listening to someone with a different accent who is speaking clear English like myself does. Which makes me want to listen even more, because I know in my heart that this wasn't his first language. -Danny

  • @des7638
    @des7638 Год назад

    great video. good job

  • @MerTheMan
    @MerTheMan 2 года назад

    This is such a good video. I’ve seen it 3 times

  • @geordiejones5618
    @geordiejones5618 2 года назад +3

    What I can't stand is people who act like we're so much different today than we've ever been. There have never been any glory days except for the highest elite. Morals are so relative and dependent on time and culture. The only right way to live is on your own terms whatever that means for you. Its not utilitarian or anything close to fair but nature's only balance is of cyclical dominance.

    • @hb2495
      @hb2495 2 года назад +2

      we are weaker today tho

  • @purpledevilr7463
    @purpledevilr7463 Год назад +3

    Reform yourself, you’re virtuous. Reform the Gods, you’re a degenerate.
    Reform both? You’re a prophet.

  • @afca6893
    @afca6893 2 года назад

    Gracias for making the video 💀♥️

  • @nathalieduverna6963
    @nathalieduverna6963 2 года назад

    I enjoyed and needed this knowledge

  • @jimurrata6785
    @jimurrata6785 2 года назад +4

    Lose the fake 'old film' filters. It's distracting and only detracts from your amazing channel.
    Hectic and chaotic seems the opposite of your intention here.

  • @A_Random_W33b
    @A_Random_W33b 2 года назад +5

    Me, a weeb: Finally, a video I can relate to

  • @JackEStoicism
    @JackEStoicism 2 года назад +1

    As always - Thank you.

  • @howtoappearincompletely9739
    @howtoappearincompletely9739 Год назад

    Thanks for the soothing, yet ædifying, background music.

  • @abyssalboy8811
    @abyssalboy8811 2 года назад +13

    The thing I always wondered with Fate or "God's Plan" is that is it possible to be fated to a miserable life? What if someone NEEDS to live a horrible life as part of God's Plan?

    • @rickspalding3047
      @rickspalding3047 2 года назад +1

      Define horrible, stoicism is the closest thing to Christianity and I never understood the blessed are the meek and the meek shall inherit the earth. Implying successful people who never turned to god are eternally damned

    • @NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself
      @NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself 2 года назад +5

      It has nothing to do with need; it's just bad luck. There is no will behind anything.

    • @thebrognator3524
      @thebrognator3524 2 года назад

      You're just unfortunate, there's no meaning behind it.

    • @MyStickWorld
      @MyStickWorld 2 года назад +3

      Pain and suffering like pleasure and joy is all derived from the self. We are fountains, and what we give comes from the well of our souls. In recognizing this we can decide what is horrible and what we truly suffer from. "If one finds themselves in hell, and hell will not change, then the one must change how they see hell itself." Nature and the universe are impartial. No one thing is personal, and all is subjective. But that's just my take.

    • @yamn1350
      @yamn1350 2 года назад +1

      God's plan would mean yielding a reward from doing His will. If it is in His will for one to suffer, than there must be a lesson being taught.
      I feel that misery lies in looking externally for what is missing internally and finding peace starts with being able to look at yourself, the ugly, the awful and all.