I really don't know, I think upgrading CC and Bogdan should be a priority, drafting Sarr is essential, and acquiring another max contract player should be the focus, we have a deep team Trae, DJ, JJ, O, Dre, koby, Gueye, Vit, Bey, Bruno, AJ, Matthews are excellent competent role players adding a dominant C or big, Sarr and another Star beside Trae is very doable without trading either of our all-star players 😉😂😎 we can become a long team next year, length, versatility and ice Trae
As a magic fan, I fully endorse this Bogdon trade. I've always been a fan of his game. He's on a reasonable contract(little long) and he fits the team perfectly. He would be less expensive than going after Monk too. Seems like a win/win.
I watched every hawks game last year. Injury was really a big issue last season. Trae, Bae, JJ, OG, DeAndre all hurt last year that messed up the record. Kobe moved up in the G league and gained his respect their
I really like this as a hawks fan. The only thing I would do is try to keep one of bogi or hunter. I’m not too fussed about which but I like them if they commit to play off the bench. But I get the money situation. I’m definitely a keep Trae guy over Dejounte
@@_AVC_ for me Id be looking to get their pick this year along with Ingram and I’d be looking for a strong defensive player. Although the offense is obviously risky I like Ryan Dunn. I don’t hate his form and he shoots low volume so I have less worries about his percentage. He would get a lot of shots with Trae being doubled a lot and creating space as well as his passing ability. He would be effective off cuts with Trae passing and maybe lobs too. And his defence is going to be class. Then I’d see who has more value out of bogi and Hunter and try get as much as possible back. I can’t really predict who I’d get in free agency. But for the past year my ideas over this offseason have changed so much, there’s a lot of options and little things change what the offseason looks like so next week I could change this entirely.
Hawks are high on Mo Gueye. They need a ball stopper on the wing somewhere Bufkin didn't see the court much because they are turning him into a point heavy combo guard. With all these trades they still need an on ball defender at the 2. I don't really see the value in trading Hunter and Murray for Ingram. This team would likely be significantly worse next year based solely on defense. 40+ mil for 53 games and average defense isn't going to fix this team. Getting Herb Jones back with Ingram would make more sense but is highly unlikely but definitely the only way they don't sink the ship further
Well remember what was actually being said in the video. The main idea isn’t being super competitive right away. The idea is figure out if you can even do anything with a core like this. Once you have an answer there it was set them up to be flexible enough to make supporting moves the next year.
@@_AVC_ you gotta keep in mind the Hawks don't have their own picks. They can put together a competitive team but forcing the issue with Ingram could put them in a more dire cap situation with worse performance overall. Ingram is better than Hunter but not max player better and they still would need a solid on ball defender at the 2. The team you constructed would likely be a lottery team in my opinion and I think they can be better than that.
@@cdubb1545 Well the good thing is, if this team that I constructed does just fizzle out then you’re right back where you started this year but with a better cap outlook going forward. That’s kinda why I just settled on “Okay let’s get Trae a more realistic shot at success, while staying flexible going forward.” Yeah you’ll have a BI contract but who cares you’re rebuilding anyway.
@@_AVC_ I understand there's no way to watch game film on every team soost of the time you guys have to go off stats and other analysts. However, the Hawks biggest issues wouldn't be addressed by this trade. It would be a net negative defensively, even at best offensively. The Young/Murray backcourt fatal flaw is size. They lack the ability to generate on ball pressure and Murray is small for a 2. That size issue coupled with all the injuries at F and C really kinda sunk them. When healthy this team's biggest issue is perimeter defense Subbing Ingram and THJ in for Murray and Hunter takes them backwards. A 3 and D wing/2 is what they need and is kinda hard to find in trade apparently.
@@cdubb1545 Do you remember what the point of this team was? Talked about it in the video for a while. Just curious what your thought is on that perspective.
I'll probably draft Sarr and try trading OO and hunter + filler for Ayton and Murray and CC for Ingram. This will give the hawks size and a two way front court with high mobility. Ayton Sarr JJ Ingram Trae
didn't the Hawks already try the Tim Hardaway Trae Young backcourt in the last rebuild? Or maybe I am getting years mixed up. Either way, the resulting team created here doesn't make the play-in.
I thought about putting him at the PG but I honestly just haven’t seen enough film to make a judgement so I wanted to make sure we had other options just in case.
Not something I talk about publicly sorry 😅. I want to keep my RUclips content really authentic to me, and if I start putting out my sources and who I work for/have worked for then they become connected. And I don’t think that’s fair.
@@kam1182 I don’t expect anything. I’m just doing this for fun and some extra cash haha. I do enjoy the comments section. Cool to hear what others are thinking. Except the weird comments like “That guy sucks.” That just isn’t any information. But anyway yeah go do whatever you want haha I don’t care if people watch or not.
@@_AVC_ upon discovering your false credentials, your audience will not engage with you. If you want to do this for fun and some extra cash, present your content without false claiming your professional background. Your audience values honesty, not manipulation.
@@kam1182 Alright I tell ya what my friend. I’ll give you some insight. Not here though. Come join the discord and I’ll give YOU some stuff. Just cuz I feel nice today haha. discord.gg/bf8VbMdwve
Trae is easily a top 10 player in the NBA easily but unfortunately, he plays for the Atlanta Hawks who have a bottom three front office in the NBA I’m taking Trae over every PG but Luka and it’s kinda close
i hate the ingram trade i think it makes zero sense to trade 3 starters for ingram and a expiring contract. one measly first round pick isnt worth it. Trae and murray may not work together but murray is debatably better than ingram. Like if the plan is to still win then this dosent make sense I promise you a duo of trae and ingram scares nobody I would rather run things back then ship our whole team for a almost allstar player.
Not disclosing that or any previous teams unfortunately. Honestly you could probably figure it out as I’ve been on other channels and some podcasts where I discuss it. But I don’t ever mix my RUclips stuff and my business. I want all this on RUclips to just be me, and I don’t want to worry what clients or past teams want to be associated with.
@@_AVC_ what r u talking about avc, what didn't u understand about my comment, yes Luka's agent didn't allow Luka to workout for Atlanta the same as he's doing with SARR, so u have a comment let's hear it, WME sports represents Luka and SARR u didn't know that 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@jamessinkfield Maybe I’m misunderstanding something 😅. You said Atlanta will still draft Sarr despite him not wanting to workout with them, because they drafted Luka without him working out for them. My point was that Atlanta drafted him for Dallas, so I didn’t understand the connection you were making.
The pels should bé insane to do that. Nope. Its better to trade BI and Cj for future lottery picks and rebuild. Murray wont change anything for us in the western conférence. Murray and Zion are not making the play-off in the west. On top of tgat you want another pick? WTF ? Do you think the pels front office is so duuummb ?
Quite the contrary actually, they seem to be pretty smart haha. I don’t personally know anyone there but they’ve done a good job! But anyway let’s address your very aggressive concerns 😅. So you don’t like Murray and Zion, I actually don’t entirely disagree. But I think it’s a realistic thing they are considering. Why don’t you like it though?
Pelicans dont need to rebuild. They just spent time after trading davis to lakers. They are fine rn and if zion stays healthy and u get better fits around him they will be deadly. I like the idea of dej murray but i will say i think the pelicans could use a spacing 5. Kinda tough to get one so capela isnt a bad alternative but its gonna hurt zion with paint crammed up which we saw with steven adams. Naz reid, wendell carter, kat, brook lopez would be great gets its just obviously unlikely.
As a mavericks fan I can tell you that Tim is consistently inconsistent. Unreliable on both ends of the floor. Makes poor shot choices and weird mistakes defensively. However, one out of every 6-7 games he gets so hot from three and makes 5-6 of them. Is it worth his contract? No
I really want to do an analysis comparing him within certain offensive actions. Essentially how does he perform in say an iso heavy possession vs some more structured ones. I have a theory that with guys like him there needs to be consistency and rhythm in his play, and that Dallas can’t bring him that consistently so it it leads him to eventually hunting shots he shouldn’t take. I feel* like when I watch Dallas games he looks better in the more structured moments but I could be wrong. I just want to see the numbers haha.
@@_AVC_ running actions to get him wide open may not be the best for him. Sometimes I think he prefers to shoot a heavily contested shot. Btw these off-season videos are great, earned a sub.
@@coltondodd3086 I don’t know, sometimes I see that because they don’t know when their next shot is coming 🤷🏻♂️. But hey thanks so much for the love! Appreciate you!
No lies here. You add a league average PG and/or a league average shooter and they’re probably already a play-in team. If they add legitimate starters they could make some noise
That is not a destructive criticism by saying that the SAS will not win a championship next year. That is just plain reality. I am a SAS fan. Maybe a playoffs but not a championship.
l love your content. I consume all kinds of NBA pods/videos and i think you are very good. but! I want to make one suggestion. You really need to change the name of your channel. you search AVC, you get a bunch of volleyball stuff. please consider changing to something hoop related. i know its none of my business but just want good content to be more exposed. a fan from south korea.
No this is great insight! Yeah I had no idea what no name my channel at first so I just named it after me haha. Most people call me VC but that name wasn’t available, so I added my first initial haha. I need a creative team 😅
@@_AVC_ I'm a firm believer in building a championship through the draft Trae and DJ are ranked 5th in the NBA in scoring, time to add Sarr and remove CC and Bogdan, dump salary and add another star, the Travis experiment is over CC and Bogdan value will never be higher, Dre is a be new 6th man, it's all conflated but it isn't at the same time, 2 things can be true at once
@@_AVC_ BI averages the same amount of games played as Bogdan both are injury prone, Bogdan opens the floor for Zion, CC provides the C, even trade😂😂😂😂
@@jamesedwards7946 Oh okay gotcha. Yeah sorry I just wasn’t sure if the BI bit was a supporting part or a different thought haha. I can tell you from experience building a championship always starts from the bottom so I’m glad you feel that way!
@@_AVC_ yes the hawks have been bottom feeders now we're in the driver's seat, hell I'll go as far and say trade CC and Bogdan for a low 1st round pick, draft Brony and bring King James in, we have all options just by trading CC and Bogdan 😎😉
What do y’all wanna see the Hawks do this offseason? There are certainly a lot of options!
Hey can you please give me access to the spreadsheet
@@polinigeechi2716 I certainly can! Use this link to DM me on discord. Then I got you!
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Trade Trae, Fire Quin, Keep DJ, Give Jalen a 10 years 500,000,000 contract, Draft Sarr.
@@smootheasy7938 Works for me, let’s roll it out!
I really don't know, I think upgrading CC and Bogdan should be a priority, drafting Sarr is essential, and acquiring another max contract player should be the focus, we have a deep team Trae, DJ, JJ, O, Dre, koby, Gueye, Vit, Bey, Bruno, AJ, Matthews are excellent competent role players adding a dominant C or big, Sarr and another Star beside Trae is very doable without trading either of our all-star players 😉😂😎 we can become a long team next year, length, versatility and ice Trae
Finally ATL, much love for this series
Appreciate that! It’s always a fun what if activity
As a magic fan, I fully endorse this Bogdon trade. I've always been a fan of his game. He's on a reasonable contract(little long) and he fits the team perfectly. He would be less expensive than going after Monk too. Seems like a win/win.
Made some sense to me haha. A little bit more experience never hurts either.
I watched every hawks game last year. Injury was really a big issue last season. Trae, Bae, JJ, OG, DeAndre all hurt last year that messed up the record. Kobe moved up in the G league and gained his respect their
So you hope they run it back?
My heart broke a little cause you didnt even mention vit krejci 💔
You know that is somewhat of an oversight by me actually. He does deserve to come back.
I really like this as a hawks fan. The only thing I would do is try to keep one of bogi or hunter. I’m not too fussed about which but I like them if they commit to play off the bench. But I get the money situation. I’m definitely a keep Trae guy over Dejounte
Yeah I could really be convinced to go a lot of different ways with this team so I totally hear ya on those points!
@@_AVC_ for me Id be looking to get their pick this year along with Ingram and I’d be looking for a strong defensive player. Although the offense is obviously risky I like Ryan Dunn. I don’t hate his form and he shoots low volume so I have less worries about his percentage. He would get a lot of shots with Trae being doubled a lot and creating space as well as his passing ability. He would be effective off cuts with Trae passing and maybe lobs too. And his defence is going to be class. Then I’d see who has more value out of bogi and Hunter and try get as much as possible back. I can’t really predict who I’d get in free agency. But for the past year my ideas over this offseason have changed so much, there’s a lot of options and little things change what the offseason looks like so next week I could change this entirely.
@@histericalcheese1028 This team really does have so many avenues to go at this from. It’s going to make for one interesting offseason!
Hawks are high on Mo Gueye. They need a ball stopper on the wing somewhere Bufkin didn't see the court much because they are turning him into a point heavy combo guard. With all these trades they still need an on ball defender at the 2. I don't really see the value in trading Hunter and Murray for Ingram. This team would likely be significantly worse next year based solely on defense. 40+ mil for 53 games and average defense isn't going to fix this team.
Getting Herb Jones back with Ingram would make more sense but is highly unlikely but definitely the only way they don't sink the ship further
Well remember what was actually being said in the video. The main idea isn’t being super competitive right away. The idea is figure out if you can even do anything with a core like this.
Once you have an answer there it was set them up to be flexible enough to make supporting moves the next year.
@@_AVC_ you gotta keep in mind the Hawks don't have their own picks. They can put together a competitive team but forcing the issue with Ingram could put them in a more dire cap situation with worse performance overall. Ingram is better than Hunter but not max player better and they still would need a solid on ball defender at the 2. The team you constructed would likely be a lottery team in my opinion and I think they can be better than that.
@@cdubb1545 Well the good thing is, if this team that I constructed does just fizzle out then you’re right back where you started this year but with a better cap outlook going forward. That’s kinda why I just settled on “Okay let’s get Trae a more realistic shot at success, while staying flexible going forward.”
Yeah you’ll have a BI contract but who cares you’re rebuilding anyway.
@@_AVC_ I understand there's no way to watch game film on every team soost of the time you guys have to go off stats and other analysts. However, the Hawks biggest issues wouldn't be addressed by this trade. It would be a net negative defensively, even at best offensively. The Young/Murray backcourt fatal flaw is size. They lack the ability to generate on ball pressure and Murray is small for a 2. That size issue coupled with all the injuries at F and C really kinda sunk them. When healthy this team's biggest issue is perimeter defense Subbing Ingram and THJ in for Murray and Hunter takes them backwards. A 3 and D wing/2 is what they need and is kinda hard to find in trade apparently.
@@cdubb1545 Do you remember what the point of this team was? Talked about it in the video for a while.
Just curious what your thought is on that perspective.
Terrence Shannon Jr. ACQUITTED on both charges. I’d love to see how this may change his draft stock!
I just saw that myself. He’ll crawl back up a little.
I'll probably draft Sarr and try trading OO and hunter + filler for Ayton and Murray and CC for Ingram. This will give the hawks size and a two way front court with high mobility.
Ayton
Sarr
JJ
Ingram
Trae
No
Big ass team 👀
Love this series. Looking forward to the Spurs one.
Absolutely!! Appreciate the love!
if we trade down to get clingan who do you think we would trade with and what do you think we would get
Maybe Houston? I have no idea though. You wouldn’t necessarily get a haul.
didn't the Hawks already try the Tim Hardaway Trae Young backcourt in the last rebuild? Or maybe I am getting years mixed up. Either way, the resulting team created here doesn't make the play-in.
Yeah Tim has been there before haha. The point of getting him isn’t really a winning move though. Remember what I was saying at the end of the vid?
Kobe bulfkin is a point and Seth lundon can be your shooting guard. . You have all you need in your backyard after your trade.
I thought about putting him at the PG but I honestly just haven’t seen enough film to make a judgement so I wanted to make sure we had other options just in case.
I wonder who they are gonna pick in the first round
Honestly a great question
Trae Young would be in the MVP conversation if he had a solid roster around him
I’m here for it, that’s why I wanted to give him a shot with a more logical roster before they unload him.
@@_AVC_ fairs
@@4ktkaram395 Love going to em… 😂
Where did you coach ?
Not something I talk about publicly sorry 😅. I want to keep my RUclips content really authentic to me, and if I start putting out my sources and who I work for/have worked for then they become connected. And I don’t think that’s fair.
@@_AVC_ You’re claiming a level of professionalism that’s unverifiable and expect the viewers to accept your credentials as legitimate?
@@kam1182 I don’t expect anything. I’m just doing this for fun and some extra cash haha.
I do enjoy the comments section. Cool to hear what others are thinking. Except the weird comments like “That guy sucks.” That just isn’t any information. But anyway yeah go do whatever you want haha I don’t care if people watch or not.
@@_AVC_ upon discovering your false credentials, your audience will not engage with you. If you want to do this for fun and some extra cash, present your content without false claiming your professional background. Your audience values honesty, not manipulation.
@@kam1182 Alright I tell ya what my friend. I’ll give you some insight. Not here though. Come join the discord and I’ll give YOU some stuff. Just cuz I feel nice today haha.
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Spread sheet?
I got you! Use this link to shoot me a DM on discord and I’ll set you up!
Trae is easily a top 10 player in the NBA easily but unfortunately, he plays for the Atlanta Hawks who have a bottom three front office in the NBA I’m taking Trae over every PG but Luka and it’s kinda close
Ouu bold take. I admire ya stickin with your boy though!
can i get this spreadsheet
Of course! Use this link to join my discord and then shoot me a DM. I’ll get it to ya then!
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The Hawks should trade the #1 pick, Murray, Johnson and Capela for Joel Embiid
That would be fun as hell haha
🙄
@@smootheasy7938 😂
Philly don't want that
@@rbgjr84 Well yeah of course 😂 all jokes
i hate the ingram trade i think it makes zero sense to trade 3 starters for ingram and a expiring contract. one measly first round pick isnt worth it. Trae and murray may not work together but murray is debatably better than ingram. Like if the plan is to still win then this dosent make sense I promise you a duo of trae and ingram scares nobody I would rather run things back then ship our whole team for a almost allstar player.
Rather just try again? It’s okay if you do, I just wanted to be sure.
It's a shame the hawks only wants to a development team that BS we the fams wants a winner not a almost team
The grammar on this one was tough my friend 😅. I think I know what ya saying though. Sucks to be in the middle.
BI wants max contract. reason Pels not willing to. Mavs keeping Jones Jr. getting rid of Hardaway.
Fair enough haha
Trae and THJ defense will be a liability
So was the team this year haha
Which NBA team are you working for?
Not disclosing that or any previous teams unfortunately. Honestly you could probably figure it out as I’ve been on other channels and some podcasts where I discuss it. But I don’t ever mix my RUclips stuff and my business.
I want all this on RUclips to just be me, and I don’t want to worry what clients or past teams want to be associated with.
Screw what WME wants Atlanta will draft SARR, they didn't let Luka workout for Atlanta either
But Atlanta didn’t really take Luka… they drafted him for Dallas.
@@_AVC_ do your research
@@jamessinkfield Wait what? 😅
@@_AVC_ what r u talking about avc, what didn't u understand about my comment, yes Luka's agent didn't allow Luka to workout for Atlanta the same as he's doing with SARR, so u have a comment let's hear it, WME sports represents Luka and SARR u didn't know that 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@jamessinkfield Maybe I’m misunderstanding something 😅. You said Atlanta will still draft Sarr despite him not wanting to workout with them, because they drafted Luka without him working out for them.
My point was that Atlanta drafted him for Dallas, so I didn’t understand the connection you were making.
The pels should bé insane to do that. Nope. Its better to trade BI and Cj for future lottery picks and rebuild. Murray wont change anything for us in the western conférence. Murray and Zion are not making the play-off in the west. On top of tgat you want another pick? WTF ? Do you think the pels front office is so duuummb ?
Quite the contrary actually, they seem to be pretty smart haha. I don’t personally know anyone there but they’ve done a good job!
But anyway let’s address your very aggressive concerns 😅. So you don’t like Murray and Zion, I actually don’t entirely disagree. But I think it’s a realistic thing they are considering. Why don’t you like it though?
@@_AVC_ as a pels fan, i was crying when you made thé proposition. This IS insane
@@thetripletsbadboys4621 Well that wasn’t an answer
Pelicans dont need to rebuild. They just spent time after trading davis to lakers. They are fine rn and if zion stays healthy and u get better fits around him they will be deadly. I like the idea of dej murray but i will say i think the pelicans could use a spacing 5. Kinda tough to get one so capela isnt a bad alternative but its gonna hurt zion with paint crammed up which we saw with steven adams. Naz reid, wendell carter, kat, brook lopez would be great gets its just obviously unlikely.
@@M8trix6363 I like those ideas at center!
Spreadsheet please
I got you! Use this link and shoot me a DM!
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@@_AVC_ Thanks
@@armaansingh8147 Of course!
As a mavericks fan I can tell you that Tim is consistently inconsistent. Unreliable on both ends of the floor. Makes poor shot choices and weird mistakes defensively. However, one out of every 6-7 games he gets so hot from three and makes 5-6 of them. Is it worth his contract? No
I really want to do an analysis comparing him within certain offensive actions. Essentially how does he perform in say an iso heavy possession vs some more structured ones.
I have a theory that with guys like him there needs to be consistency and rhythm in his play, and that Dallas can’t bring him that consistently so it it leads him to eventually hunting shots he shouldn’t take.
I feel* like when I watch Dallas games he looks better in the more structured moments but I could be wrong. I just want to see the numbers haha.
@@_AVC_ running actions to get him wide open may not be the best for him. Sometimes I think he prefers to shoot a heavily contested shot. Btw these off-season videos are great, earned a sub.
As a hawk fan who witnessed Tim play inconsistent and poor defense when he was a hawk I don’t see why Atlanta would want him back.
@@coltondodd3086 I don’t know, sometimes I see that because they don’t know when their next shot is coming 🤷🏻♂️. But hey thanks so much for the love! Appreciate you!
@@Amir-ali685 Like I said in the video it’s more of an “eh” return. Not as much about the player as it is about the circumstances we talked about.
Don’t criticize my spurs , don’t be surprise they might make it to playoffs next year
No lies here. You add a league average PG and/or a league average shooter and they’re probably already a play-in team. If they add legitimate starters they could make some noise
Hey now I said championship lol, I’m here for a playoff push!
@@jeremynitta1449 I’m here for it!
That is not a destructive criticism by saying that the SAS will not win a championship next year. That is just plain reality. I am a SAS fan.
Maybe a playoffs but not a championship.
@@Bro_Coy I think there was sarcasm in the message 😅
l love your content. I consume all kinds of NBA pods/videos and i think you are very good. but! I want to make one suggestion. You really need to change the name of your channel. you search AVC, you get a bunch of volleyball stuff. please consider changing to something hoop related. i know its none of my business but just want good content to be more exposed. a fan from south korea.
No this is great insight! Yeah I had no idea what no name my channel at first so I just named it after me haha. Most people call me VC but that name wasn’t available, so I added my first initial haha. I need a creative team 😅
Get FRP from Lakers. BYE
Bye? 😂
Atlanta won't be trading Trae or DJ, bi hasn't played 65 games since when 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
These seem like two different topics. Are they supposed to be?
@@_AVC_ I'm a firm believer in building a championship through the draft Trae and DJ are ranked 5th in the NBA in scoring, time to add Sarr and remove CC and Bogdan, dump salary and add another star, the Travis experiment is over CC and Bogdan value will never be higher, Dre is a be new 6th man, it's all conflated but it isn't at the same time, 2 things can be true at once
@@_AVC_ BI averages the same amount of games played as Bogdan both are injury prone, Bogdan opens the floor for Zion, CC provides the C, even trade😂😂😂😂
@@jamesedwards7946 Oh okay gotcha. Yeah sorry I just wasn’t sure if the BI bit was a supporting part or a different thought haha. I can tell you from experience building a championship always starts from the bottom so I’m glad you feel that way!
@@_AVC_ yes the hawks have been bottom feeders now we're in the driver's seat, hell I'll go as far and say trade CC and Bogdan for a low 1st round pick, draft Brony and bring King James in, we have all options just by trading CC and Bogdan 😎😉