Episode 71 (August 12, 2024), "The Rapture is not Coming!"

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  • @GaryDunion
    @GaryDunion 2 месяца назад +30

    For the etymology fans, the Rapture and velociraptor (1:26) are actually related words, via the Latin rapto (10:00) - velociraptor means something like "swift robber."

    • @wennlys
      @wennlys 2 месяца назад +11

      so for the people that do believe in the rapture jesus is like a flying velociraptor?

    • @GaryDunion
      @GaryDunion 2 месяца назад +7

      @@wennlys That is 100% biblically accurate

    • @wangobadankas4038
      @wangobadankas4038 2 месяца назад

      @@wennlys Yes, something like that.

  • @OldMotherLogo
    @OldMotherLogo 2 месяца назад +11

    There are folks who offer rapture pet insurance. They guarantee that they will find atheists to take care of your pets if you get taken up in the rapture. I’m not making this up.

    • @juanausensi499
      @juanausensi499 2 месяца назад

      God is going to sever them from their pets, and they still believe in his infinite goodness? Psychos, all of them.

    • @dragonicus2614
      @dragonicus2614 2 месяца назад +2

      Sounds like a good way to get $$$🤑

  • @TheMesomovie
    @TheMesomovie 2 месяца назад +11

    My first girlfriend was totally invested in the Rapture. My Dad said as a Methodist we didn't believe. BAM, that 8th grade romance was dead.

    • @epincion
      @epincion 7 дней назад

      You dodged a bullet

  • @Flockmeister
    @Flockmeister 2 месяца назад +16

    Thanks to the Dans and the DOD Podcast, Monday mornings no longer suck.

  • @DneilB007
    @DneilB007 2 месяца назад +9

    “Rapture Watch” as the Rapture follows the time zones is hilarious. I can’t imagine how busy the radio station switchboard operators were.

  • @lde-m8688
    @lde-m8688 2 месяца назад +11

    I saw the thumbnail saying "don't fear the rapture" and immediately started singing that to the "Don't fear the Reaper" by Blue Oyster Cult. Guess I'm showing my age. 😂

    • @thepockethaven
      @thepockethaven 2 месяца назад +2

      People can recognize the awesomeness of classic rock at any age! =D I discovered it during my college years in the early aughts, so I feel nostalgic about some of the same music as people 20+ years older than me. =P

  • @epincion
    @epincion 5 дней назад +1

    I grew up in a fundamentalist evangelical family - mostly Plymouth Brethren and some Baptists. The rapture theology was quiescent but became a big issue with the publication of 'The Late Great Planet Earth'. However the rapture was always held up as the reason Christians must not be cremated and God wanted us to preserve the whole body in a coffin to be raised as a new body when Christ returns.

  • @hughb5092
    @hughb5092 5 дней назад +2

    During my 25 years in Christianity, this was a torturous doctrine because as Dan succinctly mentioned, its main purpose was to affect behavior. You dare not be caught doing something naughty lest you get left behind. I gave up on this doctrine several years before I chucked the whole religion.

  • @StephenMann86
    @StephenMann86 2 месяца назад +32

    Anyone else forced to watch "A Thief in the Night" as a kid like I was?

    • @filipepinheiro8250
      @filipepinheiro8250 2 месяца назад +9

      I was forced to watch three of the kirk cameron's left behind, it was a horror movie to me lmao😂

    • @amy_pieterse
      @amy_pieterse 2 месяца назад +2

      Thankfully not. I have heard stories about it though

    • @FreeThinker2613
      @FreeThinker2613 2 месяца назад +4

      I hated watching those movies. UNITE is coming for you

    • @theamazingreptar
      @theamazingreptar 2 месяца назад +1

      I wasn't even a christian and I was forced to watch a thief in the night franchise and the left behind Kirk Cameron Franchise 😅

    • @dantallman5345
      @dantallman5345 2 месяца назад +3

      I still hate electric razors.

  • @jamesjarvis3486
    @jamesjarvis3486 2 месяца назад +12

    The VelociRapture will come in the twinkling of an eye.

  • @hocsx
    @hocsx 2 месяца назад +5

    The sheer amount of 90s references in this podcast is abhorrently delicious (makes me feel right at home).

  • @No_Mormon_No_Cry
    @No_Mormon_No_Cry 2 месяца назад +18

    Thanks! Eat your vegetables and dont touch yourself 💀

  • @derekstaff
    @derekstaff 2 месяца назад +4

    As a person who grew up a devout Mormon, who was astonished when I first read for myself the “prophecies” in a book allegedly translated from an ancient record on certain plates, the lampshading made me laugh. Oh sweet, naive boy that I was. 😅

    • @Plethorality
      @Plethorality 2 месяца назад

      Lampshading?

    • @derekstaff
      @derekstaff 2 месяца назад

      @@Plethorality lampshading refers to a technique in fiction where the author or narrator deliberately draws attention to (or shines a light, metaphorically speaking, on) a particularly strained or implausible aspect of the story. It admits the weakness of the aspect, and thereby blunts criticism their contention of it.
      Dan calling attention the ex eventu prophecies in the sacred scriptures of a Mormonism is similar.

  • @FionaBranker
    @FionaBranker 2 месяца назад +6

    I'm from Trinidad, and the rapture is still preached quite regularly. Rapture doctrine kept me in Christianity for far too long

    • @Plethorality
      @Plethorality 2 месяца назад

      All that fear.
      If i come across a pair of my mum's shoes on the floor and no one around, i still freak out.

    • @robrigogilmoresr4831
      @robrigogilmoresr4831 2 месяца назад

      The rapture is going to occur. Don't be misled. Jesus is coming soon.

  • @meley1864
    @meley1864 2 месяца назад +4

    Even as someone who no longer sees themselves as "Christian", i still get nervous anytime someone in israel so much as sneezes. Because Israel has been so interlinked with the rapture and endtimes.

    • @RadicalCaveman
      @RadicalCaveman 2 месяца назад +1

      A lot of Israelis have colds right now.

  • @CB66941
    @CB66941 2 месяца назад +13

    Being told not to be afraid of the rapture and everything that comes with it as a Christian, felt like being told not to be afraid of a mass shooting as the shooter tells you he is not targeting you.

    • @garynicolas
      @garynicolas 2 месяца назад

      You Didn’t make any sense

    • @CB66941
      @CB66941 2 месяца назад

      @@garynicolas
      Being told as a Christian who will caught up in the air during the rapture = being told you are one of the few people told that you will be spared from the shooting from the shooter
      Being told that trials and tribulations will be subjected on non-Christians = Being told that there will be an active shooter killing people
      That fear comes from the fact that every non-Christian you hold dear to you will suffer a fate worse than death.

    • @lde-m8688
      @lde-m8688 2 месяца назад

      Or if you are atheist, you aren't scared at all.

  • @FreeThinker2613
    @FreeThinker2613 2 месяца назад +2

    Thanks for all that you both do!!

  • @donaldwert7137
    @donaldwert7137 2 месяца назад +5

    Back in the 70s, when I got involved with what I suppose was an evangelical group (they didn't seem crazy, but maybe that was just me at the time), they promoted the Scofield Reference Bible. I still have my copy. Rapture and tribulation were definitely part of what they taught. There were all kinds of calculations involved and I figured 1976 was The Year. (Spoiler Alert - it wasn't.)

    • @RadicalCaveman
      @RadicalCaveman 2 месяца назад

      Wasn't Carter's Playboy interview the beginning of the Tribulation?

  • @digitaljanus
    @digitaljanus 2 месяца назад +6

    Fred Clark of the Slacktivist blog did the quintessential analysis and takedown of the _Left Behind_ books and films in the early 00s, and you can still read it on Patheos.

    • @shosty575
      @shosty575 2 месяца назад

      That whole thousands of words long analysis is still one of the best things I've ever read. I love it

  • @museofire
    @museofire 2 месяца назад +1

    I recall, in early childhood, the Larry Norman song - I wish we'd all been ready. Here are the lyrics...
    "Life was filled with guns and war
    And everyone got trampled on the floor
    I wish we'd all been ready
    Children died, the days grew cold
    A piece of bread could buy a bag of gold
    I wish we'd all been ready
    There's no time to change your mind
    The Son has come and you've been left behind
    A man and wife asleep in bed
    She hears a noise and turns her head
    He's gone
    I wish we'd all been ready
    Two men walking up a hill
    One disappears and one's left standing still
    I wish we'd all been ready
    There's no time to change your mind
    The Son has come and you've been left behind
    Life was filled with guns and war
    And everyone got trampled on the floor
    I wish we'd all been ready
    Children died, the days grew cold
    A piece of bread could buy a bag of gold
    I wish we'd all been ready
    There's no time to change your mind
    How could you have been so blind?
    The Father spoke, the demons dined
    The Son has come and you've been left behind."
    These are the ideas that kids shouldn't have to be exposed to.

  • @alexanderfloyd5099
    @alexanderfloyd5099 2 месяца назад +5

    I’ve read that the 3rd Heaven indicates that Paul practiced Merkahba mysticism as they had 7 levels of heaven. Anyone else read/heard of this?

    • @TheDanEdwards
      @TheDanEdwards 2 месяца назад +1

      Common cosmology of the religious at that time: multiple levels of heavens above us, the earth, and something below.

    • @BobbyHill26
      @BobbyHill26 2 месяца назад

      I don’t remember who from, some scholar I’m sure, but I’ve heard of this before and was pretty sold on it that Paul was within the Merkabah tradition or at least some similar mystic tradition.
      As a kid though I was always taught that the “three heavens” were the atmosphere, then outer space, then heaven heaven, ie paradise. I didn’t know enough then to ask how they knew there was a difference between atmosphere and outer space, but I probably would have just been told it was divinely given knowledge anyways

    • @MrDalisclock
      @MrDalisclock 2 месяца назад +2

      Dr. Sledge over at Esoterica did a video about Paul possibly being into mystical traditions.

    • @Cloudryder
      @Cloudryder 2 месяца назад +2

      Yes, Dr. Sledge at Esoterica has a compelling episode on this very subject.

  • @lyndafjellman3315
    @lyndafjellman3315 2 месяца назад +4

    I never heard of the "rapture" or being "born again" until I was in college. These "concepts" were the beginning of the end of my christianity. BTW, the etymology of *rapture* is interesting. Same root as r@pe?

  • @ignolator
    @ignolator 2 месяца назад +1

    We read the Left Behind series in Sunday School!! I was so upset because I was the only believer in my family

  • @Salamander_falls
    @Salamander_falls 2 месяца назад +1

    31:22 “who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows”

  • @jamescareyyatesIII
    @jamescareyyatesIII 2 месяца назад +8

    There is debate whether one is raptured fully clothed or naked. I saw a rapture movie where each rapture-ee's clothes were left neatly folded behind. This raises a deeper question--will heaven be clothes-optional? Will Jesus be free-balling? I have so many questions...

    • @lde-m8688
      @lde-m8688 2 месяца назад +2

      If I thought there might be a free-balling Jesus, I might not be atheist. 😂😂😂

    • @juanausensi499
      @juanausensi499 2 месяца назад +4

      The real question is... why does Jesus need balls at all? What are they for? Has he plans for them?

    • @robinharwood5044
      @robinharwood5044 2 месяца назад +4

      If the rapturees are to be slim young women and myself, I’ll be happy for the clothes to be left behind. But if they are to be flabby old men like me, I think clothes should be included.

  • @TheProtomold
    @TheProtomold 2 месяца назад +2

    18:57 Don't remember who said this, but: "a verse out of context is a pretext for a prooftext." I read this 30 years ago...so it might be paraphrased.

    • @QueenAngelCakes
      @QueenAngelCakes 2 месяца назад +1

      My favourite one is, text without context is a con.

  • @Salamander_falls
    @Salamander_falls 2 месяца назад +1

    6:01 love the Chris Farley reference!!! Dan is just the most wonderfully nerdy guy

  • @sp1ke0kill3r
    @sp1ke0kill3r 2 месяца назад +2

    All our times have come
    Here but now they're gone
    Seasons don't fear the rapture
    Nor do the wind, the sun or the rain
    We can be like they are
    Don't fear the Rapture

    • @dantallman5345
      @dantallman5345 2 месяца назад +1

      👍Needs more cowbell.

    • @lde-m8688
      @lde-m8688 2 месяца назад

      I just posted a comment about that song when I saw the thumbnail. 😂😂😂 And yes, needs more cowbell. Good thing I am a drummer.

    • @sp1ke0kill3r
      @sp1ke0kill3r 2 месяца назад +1

      @@lde-m8688 You might say you're a drummer, but you're not the only one. I hope some day you will join us and the world will live as one

    • @lde-m8688
      @lde-m8688 2 месяца назад

      @@sp1ke0kill3r nice

  • @MorganRhysGibbons
    @MorganRhysGibbons 2 месяца назад +2

    The Cretaceous Dispensation is my favorite.

  • @Uriel238
    @Uriel238 8 часов назад

    I always thought it would be a neat story that featured someone who thought he'd be raptured, but then a convincing rapture happens and he has to contend with being stuck in the left behind, eventually discovering other people who were also peculiarly excluded. But then I couldn't find a way to make a convincing rapture that was accessibly believable to the rest of us. We have too much other _bunches of people disappear for unexplained reasons_ mythology, so the public would see it as _the big vanishing that isn't a rapture._
    In the meantime, yeah, some of us are downright naturalist and yet are spooked by Hellfire just because it was pushed into our heads when we were toddlers.

  • @QuinnPrice
    @QuinnPrice 2 месяца назад +2

    So be good, for goodness sake. The consequences of the rapture lie cannot be underestimated. Fear of not being good enough to be taken, fear of abandonment, fear that "it's all gonna go to hell in preparation for Jesus," fear, fear, fear. My friend is armed to the teeth, has his own bunker full of food, and can't understand why I'm not doing the same. I am prepared for a few months of supply chain interruption, but I'll share.

    • @Matt_The_Hugenot
      @Matt_The_Hugenot 2 месяца назад

      The consequences of the rapture are exactly the same as the consequences of the Death Star, all consuming but fictional.

  • @Doktor-l8l
    @Doktor-l8l 2 месяца назад +2

    We at The Church of The SubGenius call it the rupture. When the non believers get what they deserve from the sky gods. Only those that tithe cash for a membership are spared. 😂 Parody is an art.

  • @MohsenGanj
    @MohsenGanj 2 месяца назад +1

    I learnt about The Rapture after i watched "This is the end" movie. 😊😊😊

  • @Plethorality
    @Plethorality 2 месяца назад

    When we were virgins,cat bible college, we were afraid of the rapture before the rupture.

  • @vivianhorton4466
    @vivianhorton4466 Месяц назад

    I need to find the "God aweful movie" podcast. LOL I was forced to watch A BUNCH of those growing up!

  • @simonlealbarria6550
    @simonlealbarria6550 Месяц назад

    This was great. Could you discuss predestination please???

  • @michaelbell3181
    @michaelbell3181 2 месяца назад

    Love the content, thanks!

  • @daisymazie21
    @daisymazie21 2 месяца назад +1

    I love the side effects. Do Christians think it will be a tube like in Futurama?

    • @lde-m8688
      @lde-m8688 2 месяца назад +1

      Gosh that is way better than most the crap they come up with. I wrote a paper in English in Junior High where I was a penny that was in the tubes they have at the bank drive-thru. Maybe all these tubes just drop from the sky like oxygen masks in a plane? 😂😂😂

  • @colleenkotrba6561
    @colleenkotrba6561 15 дней назад +1

    So I wonder then, what are the verses talking about regarding Jesus returning? Did they think he was going to come back and be a ruler over the Jewish people? What did Jesus mean when he said he would return? Obviously they thought he was going to return. What can we take from the verses used to describe the end times?

  • @Pollard_jono
    @Pollard_jono 2 месяца назад

    Well done fella’s

  • @kurtoogle4576
    @kurtoogle4576 2 месяца назад

    I find it terrifying that I always understand Dan M's references. ;)

  • @jrt4927
    @jrt4927 2 месяца назад

    We love an Uncle Buck reference 😂 great show as always!

  • @KaiHenningsen
    @KaiHenningsen 2 месяца назад +1

    Isn't that the same as what so many books and films show of what happens when, say, a British lord comes home with his new wife? All the servants line up on (or around) the steps, and the butler or majordomo greets the two?

    • @GaryDunion
      @GaryDunion 2 месяца назад

      @@KaiHenningsen They do that in 10 Downing Street when we get a new Prime Minister, it's all very Downton Abbey

  • @eddd123
    @eddd123 2 месяца назад +1

    It's two Dans talking about Daniel 10, thats gotta be 13 Daniels total

  • @kennethswenson6214
    @kennethswenson6214 2 месяца назад

    Sidebar: The YEC "Creationists" have raised eisegesis to an art form.

  • @VinceOConnor
    @VinceOConnor Месяц назад

    “Don’t Fear the Rapture”. Wasn’t that a Blue Oyster Cult song?

  • @travisfoster8866
    @travisfoster8866 2 месяца назад +2

    My brother's name is also Dan. He likely could not take the two of you in a fight though. Also, that would be super unfair. Jerks.

  • @JosephNobles
    @JosephNobles 2 месяца назад +2

    What about the Reaper? Should we fear the Reaper?

  • @Nomad58
    @Nomad58 Месяц назад

    Fear the rapture like you would Santa Claus

  • @26beegee
    @26beegee 2 месяца назад

    “My friend, Frank, and I.”

  • @Imthrashsfu
    @Imthrashsfu 2 месяца назад

    Emerald is a form of beryl. Precious, not semi-precious gemstone. Jasper is a completely different mineral.

  • @filipepinheiro8250
    @filipepinheiro8250 2 месяца назад +1

    weird enough rapture ideology is completely entrenched in brazilian evangelical churches, I grew up with this, all the conspiracy theories, the kirk cameron's left behind and the terror that comes with it, I remember clearly going through a "prophecy study Bible" my mom had in portuguese that had rapture notes throughout (it also said that the soviet union was gonna play a big role in the apocalypse, and I believed while reading in like 2008 😂lmao)

  • @paulboluijt6368
    @paulboluijt6368 Месяц назад

    Paul is refering to the new heaven.

  • @getaclue3944
    @getaclue3944 2 месяца назад

    Acts 1:11
    who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.”
    “Like manner…”. That pretty much sums up the what is going to happen and how.
    Did he leave with a heavenly multitude and millions of angels, white horses, multitudes? No.
    Maranatha!!

  • @FreeThinker2613
    @FreeThinker2613 2 месяца назад

    Those movies scared me

  • @tmcge3325
    @tmcge3325 2 месяца назад +1

    The Lord never spoke of an early exit called rapture, and not one prophet ever spoke of it. Here: *Matthew 13:37-50, John 6:54, 1 Corinthians 15:52 = Revelation 18:4 kjv* you can either believe him or not....and no Revelation 3:10 isn't a rapture neither is 1 Thessalonians 4:15 & 17....we are here until the Lord returns Matthew 24:29-31 kjv.

  • @MohsenGanj
    @MohsenGanj 2 месяца назад

    41:44 *Bani Adam* (Persian: بنی‌آدم; Hebrew: בן־אדם), meaning "Sons of Adam" or "Human Beings", is a 13th-century Persian poem by Iranian poet *Saadi Shirazi* from his Gulistan. The poem calls humans the limbs of one body, all created equal, and when one limb is hurt, the whole body shall be in unease. -Wikipedia

    • @juanausensi499
      @juanausensi499 2 месяца назад

      When you have billions of limbs, injuring one doesn't mean much

    • @MohsenGanj
      @MohsenGanj 2 месяца назад

      @@juanausensi499 Even that specific one!? 😉😉😉

    • @juanausensi499
      @juanausensi499 2 месяца назад +1

      @@MohsenGanj Are we talking about limbs still?

    • @MohsenGanj
      @MohsenGanj 2 месяца назад

      @@juanausensi499 Ah. Thanks to your response I found out that the head isn't a limb. And apparently, whoever translates this poem didn't know the exact meaning of "Limb". So, i think a better translation should be "Humans are MEMBERS of one body".

    • @juanausensi499
      @juanausensi499 2 месяца назад +1

      @@MohsenGanj A good comparison would be cells of a body.

  • @Cloudryder
    @Cloudryder 2 месяца назад

    I thought the layers of heaven was a Jewish mystic belief. Paul was a Merkavah practitioner some had suggested.

  • @timothymulholland7905
    @timothymulholland7905 2 месяца назад

    I grew up among Baptists in the 50s and 60s. Pre-trib, mid-trib and post-trib were current. BTW, look out because there are wars and rumors of wars! DJT is The Beast.

    • @lde-m8688
      @lde-m8688 2 месяца назад

      Donald isn't smart enough to be Lucifer.

  • @TheProtomold
    @TheProtomold 2 месяца назад

    @15:22...."what is this...some kind of tube?"

  • @johnrichardson7629
    @johnrichardson7629 2 месяца назад

    Comical disturbances!

  • @kellybennett1790
    @kellybennett1790 2 месяца назад

    Dan made it into the Bible?!

  • @johnrichardson7629
    @johnrichardson7629 2 месяца назад

    The third heaven is clearly the ionosphere. The 7th heaven encapsulates the moon and is where Jello Land is located. This is all so obvious and yet people refuse to believe.

  • @Uriel238
    @Uriel238 8 часов назад

    _Rizz_ is short for Charisma (CHA) so it's like _pizzazz._
    _Ohio_ is creepy and weird, and it couldn't have happened to a nicer state. I suspect youth pastors try to have rizz but instead are ohio. Probably is lower case the way spam (online advertising) is lower case to differentiate it from Spam (the Hormel processed meat).
    _Skibidi_ is an interjection, but I'll use it as an adjective to mean _very_ or _extremely_ so _skibidi mewing_ means _looking amazing_ probably due to extra grooming prep, much the way diggity-dank means _extra dank_ (describing some seriously sticky-icky cannabis buds).

  • @jamesm2256
    @jamesm2256 2 месяца назад

    Fear the Rapture? No.! There is no Rapture.........

  • @glenwillson5073
    @glenwillson5073 2 месяца назад

    What you should fear is, that it is indeed a fact, there is no Rapture in the Bible.

  • @perryekimae
    @perryekimae 2 месяца назад +1

    Who knows what horrors lie between the pages of the Left Behind series? Honestly, a whole lot of boring repetition with paper thin character development. There's pretty much just one interesting character in the whole series, but he's the villain and he lacks any nuance.
    Plus, it's way too long. With as long as the series is, you would think that a lot of events have to happen in that pre-trib, pre-millennial model, but, honestly, like one event, at most, happens in each book. Characters spend more time talking about what the Bible says is going to happen than they do actually enduring the things that are supposed to happen.
    To be fair, I read what I did of the series as an exmo atheist, so... not the target audience. But there is some great fodder for awesome set pieces and story beats in rapture theology, pretty much all of which gets squandered in the Left Behind series. 2/10, do not recommend.

  • @epincion
    @epincion 5 дней назад

    I disagree with you two mocking and saying 'how would Daniel know that his complexion was pale?' - remember he was with companions and although saw no vision they did witness Daniels reaction to the vision.
    Its okay and important to point out the misuse of scripture but its off putting to watch you two degenerate into a Beavis & Butthead type sniggering.

  • @DarrylPassow
    @DarrylPassow 2 месяца назад

    Hmm. Scoffer- mocker

  • @filipepinheiro8250
    @filipepinheiro8250 2 месяца назад

    it felt natural and certain (and terrifying), everyone was talking about the rapture could happen any minute now, of course it's true and in the Bible!
    also a tv channel called Record in Brazil made a whole telenovela about it lmao it was really bad and dumb full os sci-fi and fantasy (and antisemitic and weirdly anti catholic), I remember my mom watching it as a documentary

  • @kennethswenson6214
    @kennethswenson6214 2 месяца назад

    Also, in a curiious sort of way; Daniel 7. Did Jesus stutter when He said, NO ONE will know the date of The End Time?

    • @Merrick
      @Merrick 2 месяца назад

      good point.
      except the Jesus being in Daniel part 🥴

    • @kennethswenson6214
      @kennethswenson6214 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Merrick Sorry, that should have been a new paragraph since it was a separate point.

    • @juanausensi499
      @juanausensi499 2 месяца назад +1

      The really interesting part is that Jesus didn't know either.

  • @ROCKTHEMERCIFUL
    @ROCKTHEMERCIFUL 2 месяца назад +1

    1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
    the word on paper is corrupted by our wrong interpretation.. ( the word on paper with the TRUE INTERPRETATION is the immortal body)
    Boom. Gotcha world 🌍

    • @juanausensi499
      @juanausensi499 2 месяца назад

      So it's corrupted, then.

    • @ROCKTHEMERCIFUL
      @ROCKTHEMERCIFUL 2 месяца назад

      @@juanausensi499 No .. the true interpretation is hidden to those who don't study...they corrupt the text with
      False interpretations
      It's them not the book....if the book could interprete
      Itself. .they wouldn't have killed Christ.

  • @nonexistenttheologian
    @nonexistenttheologian 2 месяца назад

    What?!!! I am always amazed by what I see and hear on social media. While people will definitely be saved during the tribulation period (Revelation 7:9-14), and while these saints will certainly suffer from the judgments and persecution occurring at that time, there are 5 fundamental considerations (along with many additional factors), clearly indicating that the saints constituting the church must be removed from earth prior to the tribulation:
    1. The saints constituting the church are special to God (Revelation 19:7, John 3:29), and God promised the saints constituting the church that they would not face His wrath (Romans 5:9, 1 Thessalonians 1:10 and 5:9), which is poured out on the earth during the tribulation (Revelation 6:16-17, 11:18, 14:19, 15:1, 15:7 & Revelation 16); rather, the promise to the saints constituting the church is for sequestration and protection (Isaiah 26:20-21, John 14:1-3-with parallels of Noah, Rahab, Lot & his family, and Enoch-all of which are not Jewish people).
    2. The basis for salvation changes during the tribulation period. Now, before the tribulation, we obtain forgiveness of sin and eternal life by believing in and accepting the sacrifice of Jesus and His resurrection. (John 3:16, Romans 10:9-10). During the tribulation, however, in addition to believing in Jesus, a person must also refuse to worship the Antichrist, and a person must also reject the Antichrist’s mark (Revelation 14:9-10). This is why Jesus said that the Gospel during the tribulation is one of endurance (Matthew 24:9-14). The change in the standard for salvation is best implemented by first removing the saints constituting the church; otherwise, many saved people risk losing their salvation.
    3. God needs to complete His plan for the descendants of Jacob (i.e.,the final “seven”-year period-of Gabriel’s prophecy to Daniel as recorded in Daniel 9:24-27-which prophecy is expressly related to Jerusalem and Daniel’s people), which has been suspended during the time of the church (Romans 11:25-26). The fact that the plan of God is directed almost exclusively towards Israel & Jerusalem in the tribulation is evidenced by the attacks on Israel during the tribulation (Ezekiel 38-39), which are described like a locust invasion of Israel (Judges 7:12, Joel 1, Isaiah 33:4 & Amos 7:1-6), the battle of Armageddon occurring in Israel (Revelation 16:12-16, 19:11-20), the special seal being given only to 144,000 “sons of Israel” (Revelation 7:1-8), and Jesus returning to earth at the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:4). This is starkly different from the plan of God during the pre-tribulation period for the entire world (John 3:16 & Matthew 28:19-20).
    4. During the tribulation, God uses special Gospel proclaimers, including the 2 witnesses (Revelation 11:1-13), an eagle (Revelation 8:13), and 3 angels (Revelation 14:6-11)-strongly suggesting that the church is no longer present to spread the Gospel.
    5. There are indications in Scripture of a pre-tribulation harvest. See, for example, Amos 7:1-6, where the “king’s crop” has already been taken before the “spring crop” of tribulation saints are harvested, the latter of which occurs during or as a consequence of the assault on Israel and the descendants of Jacob. The king’s crop represents the church-taken before the start of the tribulation. The later crop represents people who become saints and die during the tribulation.
    There is extensive additional information in support of a pre-tribulation rapture. The overwhelming scope of information demonstrates the undeniability of the pre-tribulation rapture. Much much more support is listed in an article at prophecy resources dot com. Maranatha!

  • @trowl42
    @trowl42 2 месяца назад +2

    Irish =\= British

  • @deadguyintheweeds
    @deadguyintheweeds 2 месяца назад

    So... the lady who disappears from her grain grinding job is not flying up to heaven, but is only going to fly up a few hundred feet, and greet Jesus in the air, then float down to a new capitol city that Jesus built on the ground? That sounds even sillier than the rapture ;) Someone like Dan or Bart needs to explain Matt 24 verse by verse, and other passages used to preach the rapture. Explain like I'm a 6th grader. THANKS Dan and Dan

    • @juanausensi499
      @juanausensi499 2 месяца назад

      It's fairly easy. When God arrives, people will stop what they are doing to go greet him.

    • @davidkeller6156
      @davidkeller6156 2 месяца назад

      Going from what Bart says in his book “Armageddon” about the Matthew verses you’re referring to, he says they are taken out of context. The verses before them has Jesus comparing the coming of the Lord as similar to what happened in “the days of Noah”. Noah and his family were safe in the ark while the flood took everyone else away.
      So the ones who are taken away are the ones who will be destroyed. In other words, you shouldn’t want to be raptured.😂 The ones left behind are the ones who are saved.

  • @raya.p.l5919
    @raya.p.l5919 2 месяца назад

    Power of Jesus starting those that taste the power and Rebuke will be consumed with negative energy. 😅

  • @paulgross3067
    @paulgross3067 Месяц назад

    😂😂

  • @7ANGEL7VISION7
    @7ANGEL7VISION7 2 месяца назад

    AUGUST RAPTURE 2024

  • @Jtrueful
    @Jtrueful 2 месяца назад

    It would have been so nice if Dan would have taken all the scriptures Christians use concerning the coming of Jesus Christ, and explain why each of them are not true. But again like 50% of the time we are just hanging with an opinion. You diagnose evangelicals as not having the truth. However, your case flunks because you did not hardly use Scriptures that they use concerning the "Rapture". There seemed to be no preparation for this podcast and not educational at all. However, I continue to listen, scraping up what knowledge I can. Hope you can see that my criticism is to help you guys bring your fans what they want or what they need. Peace y'all

  • @robrigogilmoresr4831
    @robrigogilmoresr4831 2 месяца назад

    Therefore the Lord said: "Inasmuch as these people draw near with their mouths And honor Me with their lips, But have removed their hearts far from Me, And their fear toward Me is taught by the commandment of men, Therefore, behold, I will again do a marvelous work among this people, A marvelous work and a wonder; For the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, And the understanding of their prudent men shall be hidden."
    Isaiah 29:13-14
    Repent Hell is real

  • @paulgross3067
    @paulgross3067 Месяц назад

    Apparently, you guys have no belief in the word of God here’s what Jesus said so you go against Jesus. He said I go to heaven to prepare a place when I’m finished. I will come again and receive you want to myself so that where I am, you shall be alsoJesus in heaven, why did he come down to bring us to heaven? You people are completely lost without any knowledge at all ever but never able to come onto the saving knowledge of the Lord.

    • @veridicusmaximus6010
      @veridicusmaximus6010 28 дней назад

      Apparently, you can’t read your own Bible. First off the book of John is not Paul John never even discusses a rapture. Second, Neither Paul nor John discuss a seven year tribulation where believers are removed from the earth and hidden in heaven. You guys just love reading things into the text that are not there and then assuming that each author must speak with one voice this is an assumption that you have not demonstrated as true.

  • @robrigogilmoresr4831
    @robrigogilmoresr4831 2 месяца назад

    Lord Jesus, please allow these 2 guys to have an awakening. And if not allow the hearts to be heartened and so that when judgment time comes Lord father, God bring it to my attention. Bring it to my spiritual awareness when I'm up there and haven't getting judged. Braided to my awareness for the God that these 2 will be judged tormentally. In hell. If they do not repent, they are misleading millions of millions of souls.

    • @Aldrnari956
      @Aldrnari956 2 месяца назад

      1. They aren’t misleading millions. As good as they are their subscriber numbers just aren’t that high.
      2. Are you actually hoping that they get tortured? You really want another human being to be punished with eternal torment because they disagree about how a selection of passages in a book is interpreted? What kind of psycho hopes for that? You’re sick and you need help.
      Even if evangelical Christians are 100% correct and the rapture happens tomorrow, it would be a horrifying sight to see billions of people suffer. I mean, you seem to think that even Christians who simply don’t think there will be a rapture are going to be tormented. So, a person can believe in Jesus and still go to hell because they don’t think *you specifically* are right about how you interpret the book of Revelations.

    • @epincion
      @epincion 5 дней назад

      Whackjob alert

  • @michaelparsons9063
    @michaelparsons9063 2 месяца назад +1

    7 ANTICHRIST Q&A’s:
    This close to the Rapture, the EASIEST way to identify the soon-to-be-revealed ANTICHRIST (per Paul’s instruction in 2 Thessalonians 2:3) is by watching and listening to ISRAEL…a chosen people, so spiritually blind, they do not realize the same powerful ruler they are now convinced is their coming Messiah, is-in truth-the Biblical Man of Sin:
    1. Have Jewish rabbis finally identified one strong gentile “prince” as Israel’s MESSIAH ((Daniel 9:27) in the manner of Israel’s first great gentile Messiah, king Cyrus the Great? Yes, it appears a growing number of Jewish rabbis now believe Donald Trump is their Messiah; more specifically, their MESSIAH BEN DAVID: Israel’s SECOND great gentile Saviour, patterned after Cyrus. (Isaiah 44:2, 42:1)
    2. Knowing Revelation 6:2 identities the ANTICHRIST as having a CROWN, has Israel recently issued a CROWN to Trump? Yes, in July 2023, in a special ceremony, Israel awarded Trump the CROWN OF JERUSALEM.
    3. Knowing the rider of the White horse in Revelation 6:2 comes in PEACE, has Israel officially recognized Trump as their PRINCE OF PEACE? Yes. On February 27, 2024, in a special ceremony, Israel awarded Trump a golden menorah, and the messianic title: PRINCE OF PEACE. (Daniel 11:17)
    4. As Israel’s PRINCE OF PEACE, has Trump brokered a regional PEACE agreement between Israel and the Sunni Muslims, per Daniel’s 70 Weeks prophecy (Daniel 9:24-27)? Yes, on September 15, 2020, Trump signed Israel, UAE and Morocco to an unprecedented peace covenant (ABRAHAM ACCORDS), as a way to protect Israel and the Sunni gulf states from Iran.
    5. Knowing the ANTICHRIST must eventually “confirm" (STRENGTHEN) his original peace covenant (per Daniel 9:27), has Trump yet done that? Yes. In the last few days, Trump’s new ABRAHAM ALLIANCE was announced-a global right-wing coalition-to combat Iran and China…or what B. Netanyahu calls: “The new United Nations.”
    6. Knowing the role the ANTICHRIST plays in the building of the Jewish Temple, how involved is Trump? Heavily. Not only has Trump promised (in 2016) to help build the new Temple, Trump’s likeness is already on the Temple half-shekel coin (with King Cyrus). As well, the new Temple Mount train station is being named the “DONALD J. TRUMP/TEMPLE MOUNT” station.
    7. Does Israel yet associate “signs and wonders” with Trump? Yes. Trump’s recent assassination attempt is now seen amongst rabbis as the prophetic fulfillment of a Jewish messianic sign: the “PIERCED-EAR” prophecy (Exodus 21:6); thus more proof to Israel that Trump is the one.🧩