Very interesting. I think the most vital element of any interpretation is the mythical/allegorical spirit of the legend. I love St. Brigid's Day and always celebrate the occasion. The heart of her message is essentially one of compassion. Incidentally, both Denny's and Brady's products now include a delicious vegan pudding/sausage/bacon etc so in the spirit of love and compassion enjoy the full Irish vegan breakfast - sausages/bacon/pudding/mushrooms/tomatoes/beans and delicious vegan scrambled eggs. No cruelty, no suffering and a true authentic message of compassion for all our sentient fellow creatures.
"The heart of her message is essentially one of compassion. " Yes that is my understanding of the day when I had gotten in to the early medieval literature as well.
I just got out off Mass at Saint Brigid of Kildare in Midland, Michigan, USA. I'm about to head into a class, but I look forward to viewing the rest of this later! Thanks!
For me this a very special time, Brigid's time. I'm devoted her.And I want to visit Kildare and Her sacred places. Thank you so much for sharing with us your wonderful job about Her. May Brigid bless you and your loved ones so much! 🔥✨️🔥✨️🔥✨️👍☘️☘️☘️🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
St Brighid was certainly a real person. I see this from a couple of different points of view. She is similar to Our Lady of Guadalupe, a bridge between a pagan past and Christianity. Her role as reconciler is the same between the Fomhóraigh and the Tuatha Dé Danann as well when she marries Bres. From a Druids point of view I see St Brighid as an avatar of Bríd.
Sometimes there is a fine line between memorializing someone and worshiping them. Unfortunately, the Catholic Church seems to have taken these things a wee bit too far at times. Although it shouldn’t have been necessary it appears that certain church leaders drew upon the pre-existing pagan culture to help sell the faith or pacify the people’s need for certain celebrations. I wouldn’t be surprised if Brigit’s death coincided with the date of a past pagan celebration but I could be wrong about this. I make this assumption based on the dating of Christmas and Easter which, from what I understand, were dated to align with past pagan holidays. I was born and raised Roman Catholic but now I insist people refer to me as the Evangeli-Gael. The last part being a joke but I still value my Catholic brothers and sisters. They still do have some strong points when it comes to the faith. Thank you for all your hard work, I have been enjoying the vids immensely.
We have our St Brigid's cross on our front door here in Phoenix, good to know more about her. Great Etsy store that sells them made with good Galway reeds. I, too, heard that maybe Brigid maybe wasn't a real person and a Christian claiming a Celtic goddess. 451 is absolutely recently enough for her to be a real person. Then again, that may be my own biases talking, because if Brigid isnt real in 451, then Fionn MacCool DEFINITELY isn't real in 192 haha. Again, thanks for another awesome and informative video. Keep it up my friend.
Great content. I think you’re right to believe she was a real person. Hold fast to the traditions which were taught to you, whether by the ancient writings or by the words spoken to you. This idea of St. Brigid being conflated with a pagan goddess is something of a modern academic fad, and one that is currently taking a beating. The concept of syncretism, that is, that everything in Christianity somehow needs to have a pagan origin repacked to dupe the masses, was popular among the elites in Victorian times, is now on the way out. Syncretism is something which is normally antithetical to Christianity anyways, especially in its first ten centuries. Christianity on the whole tended to steamroll paganism as demonic, and therefore would be very much against borrowing from what they saw as both inferior and devilish/against Christ. Historians and analysts are now taking these old hagiographic stories more seriously and finding that there’s much more valuable historical content in them than what was previously assumed. That there was even an Irish goddess named Brigid is also now in question, and some have even suggested that it was the other way around: that later writers used the real saint’s life and reimagined a goddess anachronistically. If St. Brigid were a re-packaged goddess, they would have given her a much more illustrious background, she probably wouldn’t have been assigned a slave mother. She wouldn’t have been a target of male abuse. She would have used powers of fire; but she doesn’t. Her grave is known. The merger of the real saint with a pagan goddess appears to be a modern thing.
I agree with your assessment and share it. Saint Brigid is my patron saint, and I am Old Calendar Orthodox so I actually celebrate her both on her common day of 1 February, and also 14 February. Aye, I kind of get two Christmases too, hehehe! But I digress, she is seen as a real human who achieved sainthood and holiness in the Orthodox Church. She has been guiding all my life, even before I knew her or knew Lord Jesus Christ. Pray for me blessed Saint Brigid, a sinner. 🙏🏻☦️
@@ashlnn7150 "Brigid - Debunking the Meta-Myth of an Irish Goddess" by Simon Tuite of Monumental Ireland Although it is generally accepted that Imbolc was originally a pagan festival celebrating the beginning of Spring, there is absolutely no direct testimony as to its original customs or rituals. Most of the traditions we now associate with Imbolc are specifically associated with St Brigid of Kildare, who was the dominant female figure in the late medieval Irish church. While the Christian Saint Brigid does share some of her attributes with a literary/mythological character also called Brigid: this overlap has led many modern writers and scholars to assume that a specific goddess named Brigid also enjoyed similar prominence in pre-Christian Ireland. . . . . . And while many of those same writers and scholars are quick to point out the lack of historical evidence that the Christian St Brigid ever actually existed, they are equally as quick to apply her traditions to a goddess for which there is even less evidence for. The idea that saint and goddess are the same entity can be traced back, not to antiquity, but to the Celtic revivalists of the Victorian age. In fact the first explicit identification of the pagan goddess with the saint of Kildare is made by continental Celticist, Henri d'Arbois de Jubainville in his 1884 work, ‘Le cycle mythologique irlandais et la mythologie celtique’, where he makes the now-familiar claim that… “... Brigit, goddess of the pagan Irish, was supplanted in the Christian era by Saint Brigit, and the Irish of the Middle Ages transferred in some way to this national saint the cult that their pagan ancestors had addressed to the goddess Brigit”. This theory has been embraced wholeheartedly by Neo-pagans ever since, often citing dubious texts to back up their claim. While there is no doubt that the traditions associated with St Brigid can be traced back to pre-Christian beliefs, it is likely that many of the ritual sites and customs now associated with her were originally focused on various, local goddess figures, not a singular deity as is the general consensus today. The earliest text that references both the saint and the goddess Brigid is the 10th-century text, ‘Sanas Cormaic’ (Cormac’s Glossary), which refers to each of the Brigids as separate entities; with neither associated with Imbolc. “Brigid, a poetess, daughter of the Dagda. This is Brigid the female sage or woman of wisdom, Brigid the goddess whom poets adored, for great was her protecting care. It is, therefore, they call her goddess of poets by this name. Whose sisters were Brigid woman of healing and Brigid woman of smith-work; from whose names with all Irishmen a goddess was called Brigid.” Interestingly the passage indicates that ‘Brigid’ was a name by which all goddesses were known in Ireland. This ties in with the view of many etymologists that the word ‘Brigid’, which comes from the Proto-Celtic word ‘Briganti’ meaning ‘exalted one’, was used as a title and not a name per se. Although we cannot prove her existence, it is possible that the abbey at Kildare was founded by a woman in the late 5th Century who was given the title ‘Brigid’ by the mainly pagan population that she administered to. However, within a hundred years or so of her supposed death on the 1st of Feb c.525, we start seeing hagiographies being written that contain many of the stories and customs we now associate with St Brigid. It is this composite of Christian and pagan traditions that the singular Neo-Pagan goddess Brigid has been over-layed onto, creating a self-referential, meta-mythical narrative that has no real basis in the historical or literary sources.
The idea that the historical St. Brigid was a goddess reimagined is an academic construct from the 19th century, at a time when it was fashionable to imagine that many things in Christianity were originally pagan. This has since proved false on a dillion points, but the idea popularly persists amongst those without knowledge on syncretism.
It's wonderful that Ireland is starting a public holiday for Brigid/ Imbolc from 2023 on Feb 1st. it's a shame that the catholics took over and changed the goddess Brigid story.
Very Interesting. Really like the story of St. Brigid and not to mention that time period. In the North East of England, the Celtic Christian tradition spread from Ireland and in fact differentiated Northumbria, particularly Bernicia, from the South English Kingdoms following European-Roman Christianity. So our patron Saints are St. Cuthbert, believed to be the son of an Irish King and St. Aidan who founded Lindisfarne aka. Holy Island near Bamburgh. I think there is a clear reason why they call this period the Age of Saints, because you wouldn't have though St. Patrick, St David, St. Brigid, St. Columba etc. were all roughly around the same time. Fascinating stuff!
If there was any sort of "Celtic christianity" as an independent Episcopal polity, why is there so much evidence of the ritual dependence of the celtic world on the authority of the Papacy?
Nevermind it being it's own polity or not, there are many who now assert "Celtic christianity" had a separate theology of it's own all together - an assertion which is almost completely unsupported.
@@myrmidonesantipodes6982 I think you're taking this a bit further than what I was saying. You're taking it to heart, I was describing a differentiation in the North East of England in partiuclar, which is where I come from.
I've no particular thoughts on how real St. Bridget was or not, it reminds me too much of the interminable arguments of Atheists vs Theists on if Jesus is real. I feel the same way about it that you lads feel about arguments on modern politics. However I really enjoy hearing their story put into the context of the time, since that really helps me to get a feel for the time period and factual based explanations on the story of the cloak and the size of a church at the time. On the Irish gods have distinct aspects like Roman gods, Jackson Crawford a Norse linguist and former professor, also on RUclips, makes the same point about those gods, for example the god of the sea only has one story where they do a some magical stuff with the sea, and overall their gods where not so well defined and rigid in what they did or represented in the stories.
Thanks for the feedback Tadeusz. Not sure if I've seen that video. I'll have a look as it backs up my view. Glad you enjoyed the video man and have a great weekend ☺️
she is not an Irish Goddess. She is a saint, jUST her name sounds familiar. catholics didnt create her story from pagan thing. Her relics is still with us.....
The King of Leinster being a pagan slave holder is weird. I thought the Uí Ceinnselaig, namely Crimthann were Christian! Crimthann was said to be baptized by Patrick at Rathvilly.
I found story myself. However that area doesn't really become Christian for the most part until 565. Since it's not for until 600AD that people start to write about the woman, many stories have been added on.
I was really hoping for an informative video. I am sure you are passionate about your subject, but it was unscripted ramble. I prefer to have more substance when I am looking for information. Pity because I really wanted to learn about the transition of goddess to Saint
Brigid was nothing but an ordinary woman, not any goddess. Sorry but time to face it. She was among the Christian saints, born in a place with faults and weakness like us all. Obviously, the truth: she's not a BIZARRE hybrid, not a very odd minestrone beyond solid reality, either she was a human or she was not... if you think anyone is wandering round now who was once a divinity, i think you need a good shake ! i also think that's extremely vain, against scientific truth, common sense and conventional theological revelation as tested by the greatest minds. If you choose to be a gnostic, then create your own stories, but don't steal this ordinary woman, who with God's merciful grace made her a saint like other saints who were subject to ordinary limits and mortality and weaknesses, etc.
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Ulster fry is way better 🤣 great video.
A! stop! although I would love one right now.
Outstanding production.... thank you so much for sharing ...so informative..... please keep up the good work !!!!!!
This was exactly the info I was looking for! I recently visited St Brigid's Holy Well!
Very interesting. I think the most vital element of any interpretation is the mythical/allegorical spirit of the legend. I love St. Brigid's Day and always celebrate the occasion. The heart of her message is essentially one of compassion. Incidentally, both Denny's and Brady's products now include a delicious vegan pudding/sausage/bacon etc so in the spirit of love and compassion enjoy the full Irish vegan breakfast - sausages/bacon/pudding/mushrooms/tomatoes/beans and delicious vegan scrambled eggs. No cruelty, no suffering and a true authentic message of compassion for all our sentient fellow creatures.
"The heart of her message is essentially one of compassion. " Yes that is my understanding of the day when I had gotten in to the early medieval literature as well.
Thank you!
I just got out off Mass at Saint Brigid of Kildare in Midland, Michigan, USA. I'm about to head into a class, but I look forward to viewing the rest of this later! Thanks!
For me this a very special time, Brigid's time. I'm devoted her.And I want to visit Kildare and Her sacred places. Thank you so much for sharing with us your wonderful job about Her. May Brigid bless you and your loved ones so much! 🔥✨️🔥✨️🔥✨️👍☘️☘️☘️🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Happy Imbolc tomorrow and thank you very much for your video 🙏🌼
Another great video. A full English, Irish or a Ulster fry is a treat indeed.
I do love it. Sadly living in Japan am getting none of that this year again 😢
people like you make me want to go to Ireland
St Brighid was certainly a real person. I see this from a couple of different points of view. She is similar to Our Lady of Guadalupe, a bridge between a pagan past and Christianity. Her role as reconciler is the same between the Fomhóraigh and the Tuatha Dé Danann as well when she marries Bres.
From a Druids point of view I see St Brighid as an avatar of Bríd.
Thank-you so much for all information ❤
Great stuff interesting topic.
Thanks man!
This was great ! Thanks .
Very interesting
Thanks so much. I did find reading her life once you pull out all the folklore to be very deep.
So interesting....loved it.....
The idea that St Bridget was a pagan Goddess that morphed into a saint is much more interesting.
Ya, one wonders where the truth is.
Interesting history of early Irish culture
Super cool video and channel, new sub
I believe you I'm so drawn to St, Goddess Brigid💯🍀🙏🇮🇪💚
Sometimes there is a fine line between memorializing someone and worshiping them. Unfortunately, the Catholic Church seems to have taken these things a wee bit too far at times. Although it shouldn’t have been necessary it appears that certain church leaders drew upon the pre-existing pagan culture to help sell the faith or pacify the people’s need for certain celebrations. I wouldn’t be surprised if Brigit’s death coincided with the date of a past pagan celebration but I could be wrong about this. I make this assumption based on the dating of Christmas and Easter which, from what I understand, were dated to align with past pagan holidays. I was born and raised Roman Catholic but now I insist people refer to me as the Evangeli-Gael. The last part being a joke but I still value my Catholic brothers and sisters. They still do have some strong points when it comes to the faith. Thank you for all your hard work, I have been enjoying the vids immensely.
I agree with all your points man and you bring up great points.
We have our St Brigid's cross on our front door here in Phoenix, good to know more about her. Great Etsy store that sells them made with good Galway reeds.
I, too, heard that maybe Brigid maybe wasn't a real person and a Christian claiming a Celtic goddess. 451 is absolutely recently enough for her to be a real person.
Then again, that may be my own biases talking, because if Brigid isnt real in 451, then Fionn MacCool DEFINITELY isn't real in 192 haha.
Again, thanks for another awesome and informative video. Keep it up my friend.
Thanks so much! Ya I see it just the same. Plus Ireland was just going in to the Golden age in 451. I say she was real.
Great content. I think you’re right to believe she was a real person. Hold fast to the traditions which were taught to you, whether by the ancient writings or by the words spoken to you. This idea of St. Brigid being conflated with a pagan goddess is something of a modern academic fad, and one that is currently taking a beating. The concept of syncretism, that is, that everything in Christianity somehow needs to have a pagan origin repacked to dupe the masses, was popular among the elites in Victorian times, is now on the way out. Syncretism is something which is normally antithetical to Christianity anyways, especially in its first ten centuries. Christianity on the whole tended to steamroll paganism as demonic, and therefore would be very much against borrowing from what they saw as both inferior and devilish/against Christ. Historians and analysts are now taking these old hagiographic stories more seriously and finding that there’s much more valuable historical content in them than what was previously assumed. That there was even an Irish goddess named Brigid is also now in question, and some have even suggested that it was the other way around: that later writers used the real saint’s life and reimagined a goddess anachronistically. If St. Brigid were a re-packaged goddess, they would have given her a much more illustrious background, she probably wouldn’t have been assigned a slave mother. She wouldn’t have been a target of male abuse. She would have used powers of fire; but she doesn’t. Her grave is known. The merger of the real saint with a pagan goddess appears to be a modern thing.
I agree with your assessment and share it. Saint Brigid is my patron saint, and I am
Old Calendar Orthodox so I actually celebrate her both on her common day of 1 February, and also 14 February. Aye, I kind of get two Christmases too, hehehe! But I digress, she is seen as a real human who achieved sainthood and holiness in the Orthodox Church. She has been guiding all my life, even before I knew her or knew Lord Jesus Christ. Pray for me blessed Saint Brigid, a sinner. 🙏🏻☦️
I'd like to read more about this new thinking that she was never a god, I've had a quick Google and can't find any sources. Where can I look?
@@ashlnn7150
"Brigid - Debunking the Meta-Myth of an Irish Goddess"
by Simon Tuite of Monumental Ireland
Although it is generally accepted that Imbolc was originally a pagan festival celebrating the beginning of Spring, there is absolutely no direct testimony as to its original customs or rituals. Most of the traditions we now associate with Imbolc are specifically associated with St Brigid of Kildare, who was the dominant female figure in the late medieval Irish church.
While the Christian Saint Brigid does share some of her attributes with a literary/mythological character also called Brigid: this overlap has led many modern writers and scholars to assume that a specific goddess named Brigid also enjoyed similar prominence in pre-Christian Ireland. . .
. . . And while many of those same writers and scholars are quick to point out the lack of historical evidence that the Christian St Brigid ever actually existed, they are equally as quick to apply her traditions to a goddess for which there is even less evidence for.
The idea that saint and goddess are the same entity can be traced back, not to antiquity, but to the Celtic revivalists of the Victorian age. In fact the first explicit identification of the pagan goddess with the saint of Kildare is made by continental Celticist, Henri d'Arbois de Jubainville in his 1884 work, ‘Le cycle mythologique irlandais et la mythologie celtique’, where he makes the now-familiar claim that…
“... Brigit, goddess of the pagan Irish, was supplanted in the Christian era by Saint Brigit, and the Irish of the Middle Ages transferred in some way to this national saint the cult that their pagan ancestors had addressed to the goddess Brigit”.
This theory has been embraced wholeheartedly by Neo-pagans ever since, often citing dubious texts to back up their claim. While there is no doubt that the traditions associated with St Brigid can be traced back to pre-Christian beliefs, it is likely that many of the ritual sites and customs now associated with her were originally focused on various, local goddess figures, not a singular deity as is the general consensus today.
The earliest text that references both the saint and the goddess Brigid is the 10th-century text, ‘Sanas Cormaic’ (Cormac’s Glossary), which refers to each of the Brigids as separate entities; with neither associated with Imbolc.
“Brigid, a poetess, daughter of the Dagda. This is Brigid the female sage or woman of wisdom, Brigid the goddess whom poets adored, for great was her protecting care. It is, therefore, they call her goddess of poets by this name. Whose sisters were Brigid woman of healing and Brigid woman of smith-work; from whose names with all Irishmen a goddess was called Brigid.”
Interestingly the passage indicates that ‘Brigid’ was a name by which all goddesses were known in Ireland. This ties in with the view of many etymologists that the word ‘Brigid’, which comes from the Proto-Celtic word ‘Briganti’ meaning ‘exalted one’, was used as a title and not a name per se.
Although we cannot prove her existence, it is possible that the abbey at Kildare was founded by a woman in the late 5th Century who was given the title ‘Brigid’ by the mainly pagan population that she administered to. However, within a hundred years or so of her supposed death on the 1st of Feb c.525, we start seeing hagiographies being written that contain many of the stories and customs we now associate with St Brigid. It is this composite of Christian and pagan traditions that the singular Neo-Pagan goddess Brigid has been over-layed onto, creating a self-referential, meta-mythical narrative that has no real basis in the historical or literary sources.
The idea that the historical St. Brigid was a goddess reimagined is an academic construct from the 19th century, at a time when it was fashionable to imagine that many things in Christianity were originally pagan. This has since proved false on a dillion points, but the idea popularly persists amongst those without knowledge on syncretism.
Interesting.I`ve wondered about Bridget myself.
Great woman!!
@@IrishMedievalHistory She would of been
Would have been a great wife for yourself if she didn't join the church. 😉
@@IrishMedievalHistory Giddy up
@@IrishMedievalHistory I`ve had 2 wives don`t think i`ll go for 3rd time lucky
It's wonderful that Ireland is starting a public holiday for Brigid/ Imbolc from 2023 on Feb 1st. it's a shame that the catholics took over and changed the goddess Brigid story.
Very Interesting. Really like the story of St. Brigid and not to mention that time period. In the North East of England, the Celtic Christian tradition spread from Ireland and in fact differentiated Northumbria, particularly Bernicia, from the South English Kingdoms following European-Roman Christianity. So our patron Saints are St. Cuthbert, believed to be the son of an Irish King and St. Aidan who founded Lindisfarne aka. Holy Island near Bamburgh. I think there is a clear reason why they call this period the Age of Saints, because you wouldn't have though St. Patrick, St David, St. Brigid, St. Columba etc. were all roughly around the same time. Fascinating stuff!
I love it!! Alex the lad we had on last time is amazing with all that history. I could ask him to jump on again and have a chat with us if you like??
@@IrishMedievalHistory Yeah that would be excellent!
If there was any sort of "Celtic christianity" as an independent Episcopal polity, why is there so much evidence of the ritual dependence of the celtic world on the authority of the Papacy?
Nevermind it being it's own polity or not, there are many who now assert "Celtic christianity" had a separate theology of it's own all together - an assertion which is almost completely unsupported.
@@myrmidonesantipodes6982 I think you're taking this a bit further than what I was saying. You're taking it to heart, I was describing a differentiation in the North East of England in partiuclar, which is where I come from.
I've no particular thoughts on how real St. Bridget was or not, it reminds me too much of the interminable arguments of Atheists vs Theists on if Jesus is real. I feel the same way about it that you lads feel about arguments on modern politics. However I really enjoy hearing their story put into the context of the time, since that really helps me to get a feel for the time period and factual based explanations on the story of the cloak and the size of a church at the time.
On the Irish gods have distinct aspects like Roman gods, Jackson Crawford a Norse linguist and former professor, also on RUclips, makes the same point about those gods, for example the god of the sea only has one story where they do a some magical stuff with the sea, and overall their gods where not so well defined and rigid in what they did or represented in the stories.
Thanks for the feedback Tadeusz.
Not sure if I've seen that video. I'll have a look as it backs up my view. Glad you enjoyed the video man and have a great weekend ☺️
@@IrishMedievalHistory Thanks
@@TadeuszCantwell your more then welcome!
How does one do a half hour on Saint Brigid without even mentioning the holy wells spread all over Ireland?
I think she is real .Whole her story is like King Artur's spiritual strong. I love Brigid❤
she is not an Irish Goddess. She is a saint, jUST her name sounds familiar. catholics didnt create her story from pagan thing. Her relics is still with us.....
There are many ways to see her. Today is her feast day and my birthday. 🐑🐑🐑🐑🍀🍀🍀🍀
Please don't think people aren't listening, I am 💯🍀🙏🇮🇪💚
The King of Leinster being a pagan slave holder is weird. I thought the Uí Ceinnselaig, namely Crimthann were Christian! Crimthann was said to be baptized by Patrick at Rathvilly.
I found story myself. However that area doesn't really become Christian for the most part until 565. Since it's not for until 600AD that people start to write about the woman, many stories have been added on.
My view is Saint Brigid is a real person- because, I trust the historic Christian church over the atheists who hate and try to discredit us ✝️
I was really hoping for an informative video. I am sure you are passionate about your subject, but it was unscripted ramble. I prefer to have more substance when I am looking for information. Pity because I really wanted to learn about the transition of goddess to Saint
Brigid was nothing but an ordinary woman, not any goddess. Sorry but time to face it. She was among the Christian saints, born in a place with faults and weakness like us all. Obviously, the truth: she's not a BIZARRE hybrid, not a very odd minestrone beyond solid reality, either she was a human or she was not... if you think anyone is wandering round now who was once a divinity, i think you need a good shake ! i also think that's extremely vain, against scientific truth, common sense and conventional theological revelation as tested by the greatest minds. If you choose to be a gnostic, then create your own stories, but don't steal this ordinary woman, who with God's merciful grace made her a saint like other saints who were subject to ordinary limits and mortality and weaknesses, etc.
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