@@obsever97 Muslims are not banned from using undrinkable alcohol-based fuels like methylates spirits and ethanol, both of which are basically poison...
Stoves like the Small Unit Expeditionary Stove (SUES) by MSR are designed to burn white gas (naptha) or similar highly refined fuels because these fuels have specific characteristics that are ideal for high-performance stoves in extreme conditions. Here’s why methylated spirits (denatured alcohol) or ethanol aren’t typically used in such stoves: 1. Fuel Efficiency & Energy Density White gas and petrol (gasoline) have higher energy densities compared to alcohol-based fuels. This means that white gas provides more heat output per unit of fuel, making it more efficient for heating large amounts of water or cooking in cold environments, where the stove must generate substantial heat over long periods. 2. Burning Characteristics White gas burns hotter and cleaner, producing a strong, stable flame. In contrast, alcohol-based fuels like ethanol or methylated spirits burn at lower temperatures and tend to produce a weaker flame. This makes them less suitable for high-altitude or cold-weather conditions, where high heat output is crucial. 3. Clogging & Maintenance Stoves designed for white gas have components (such as the burner and fuel line) that are engineered to work with its specific properties. Alcohol-based fuels can cause clogging or damage to the fuel system due to their lower vaporization temperatures and different chemical makeup. White gas burns with less residue, keeping the stove cleaner and requiring less maintenance. 4. Pressure & Vaporization The pressure and vaporization characteristics of white gas make it ideal for pressurized stove systems like the SUES. Alcohol burns at lower pressures and doesn't vaporize as efficiently in these stoves, leading to inefficient combustion and less heat output. 5. Cold-Weather Performance In freezing or high-altitude environments, ethanol and methylated spirits perform poorly compared to white gas. White gas is better at igniting and maintaining a strong flame in extreme cold, whereas alcohol fuels can struggle to vaporize and burn effectively in such conditions. These stoves are optimized for fuels that provide reliable performance in the most demanding environments, which is why they rely on white gas or petrol over alcohol-based alternatives.
There's the concave cup dead center in the stove. Pressurize fuel bottle, then open & close valve just so there's a little bit of fuel in that cup. Close valve, light stove. When fuel is almost burned up, turn on the valve. This should prevent that big flame-up when lighting & prime the stove. Also, MSR makes an arctic pump, which I just got & will try out this winter. Should hold pressure better in extreme cold.
I have the XKG, there is a small felt pad to absorb the fuel and work like a wick so you don't waste fuel priming it. You are absolutely right, pressurize, open, let a bit of fuel out, close and then light to prime. I've been using mine for years, boils as fast as a jetboil. Only thing the jetboil does better is cools off and stores faster.
I was with Marines (Corpsman) when they switched from Coleman Peak 1 to these jets. Gamechanger, especially with reliability & durability. I love mine! I use Jetboil more, as I usually just need hot beverages & MH meals.
I purchased one of these at Navy exchange, in the late 80s and I’ve been using a MSR XGK-EX civilian version ever since. This is my survival, backpacking, bikepacking, and camping stove choice.
I believe there are supposed to be different tips. I don't think I looked that close for them. I used Coleman Fuel. Thank you very much & have a good one!
I did time in the Marine Corps SOTG Arctic Branch in the early 1990s and we carried the Coleman 533 stove, plus options with the old Optimus stoves, but the 533 did the job for us. One per two Marines. I would have loved to have this stove available back then due to weight. We were also tasked with testing new equipment for the Corps in arctic environments as well and I’m glad to see the USMC still takes the time to look after their Marines with the best gear they can afford!😂 No more army dog hand me downs!😂
I was in the National Guard and the best we got were the immersion heaters the cooks used to cook with. This is definitely top notch stuff compared to most other military issued field gear. Thank you very much
Hey I snagged a brand new coleman the alluminum can, pot clamp, and red Marines fuel bottle for $80 brand new a few years ago. Coleman new at the time was $75 no brainer. I've never used the can to store the stove in. I heard it absorbs the fuel smell. I keep that to boil water in as well as store food in or half a leaf of bread at times whatever floats my boat on the day. Heavy stove but I like it
I'd suggest you get an Australian Stailess steel but they are a bit small, or a British Alluminum Dixie set to cook on that. Might work a lot better plus they are a decent Frying pan. With an Australian Dixie and a cups canteen to boil water in on a coleman, I can after a day hike, put a steak, onion gravy, dehydrated peas cooked with a fresh 🥕 and dehydrated mash, on a plate. Meat 3 vege gravy what more can you want after a hike before you climb into your sleeping bag. Those Dixie, freeze a steak in it, wrap it in a hand towel, pack it in a dry bag, bury it between clothing sleeping bafmg etc in your pack,😊 at the end of a long hike your steak is still fresh even in 40c 100F day.
I have the same stove I bought years ago. Great stove. I bought it because it is dual fuel but have used it very little as I use canister stoves for convenience. Great vid
I didn't realise I needed another bloody stove til I saw your video! Thought the dozen or so I have would suffice. & still, I just normally stick a metal mug or mess kit on a small fire & don't even unpack the stove from my bag!
We should start a support group. I probably have a 20 or so Coleman Stoves (double burner) 1 triple burner, 3 single burner plus a Trangia alcohol stove and 4 or 5 iso butane Stoves. Hi, my name is Jon and I'm a stove-a-holic. Hahaha Thank you
@OliveDrabAlliance unfortunately it's not just the stoves that are the issue...it's all milsurp from camo jackets & smocks to rucksacks, bergens & belt kits. The older the better, can't resist a vintage mess kit either... I have a problem ?!?!
Looks full legit -- thanks for the review! My Optimus Nova is similar & it has been the perfect stove! I have cooked MANY excellent meals with it. But yes, these types of stoves can be dangerous because of the fuel -- it's good to keep those skills sharp.
I definitely need more practice with it as this was my first time using one, but that just gives me an excuse to get out on the trail and get cooking. Thank you
Reminds me to much of the whisper-lite they make. To prime it I used denatured alcohol in the priming pan so the fuel jet would not get soothed up like it does when you use the white gas to prime it. I'll stay with my alcohol and/or wood burner combination , it's a lot quieter.
Yeah, I've been informed I did it wrong. You turn the valve on to let the cup fill with a few drops, turn the valve off, then light it and then turn the valve back on. That's part of the fun, learning something new all the time. Thank you for watching & have a great day
It was fun. Sometimes these videos are a pain in the butt to make, there is a lot to it, but I enjoy sharing and I especially enjoy hearing back after sharing from people all around the world. Thank you very much
John, after watching you drill holes in the cup to use as a strainer, it gave me an idea. I purchased the same mess kit as yours and drilled holes around the outside of the cup. I made 4 grooves in the lip to rest a couple of nails across, and now use it as a solid fuel cooker for the kit. It works really well 😊
That is excellent. I was thinking about putting some small bolts and nuts through 4 of the drain holes to kind of elevate the pot. Somebody in a comment gave me that idea, but I really like how you described what you did. Nothing says we can't modify this stuff ya know? Thank you very much!
Thank you I really honestly an surprised and very grateful. I wanted to do this youtube thing because I have an artistic side and felt I have something to share. I'm just happy to share it. I hope you have a great day.
Nice stove I wonder if it is supposed to be used with the "Mountain Mess Kit"? It has a round pot that would fit very well on the burner. I've seen them for sale but they are pricey. You should have had a poptart for dessert in memory of Paul Harrell. Thanks for showing the stove and congratulations on 2k.
Thank you. I am 100% sure it was supposed to go with the mountain cook kit. It is meant for a larger kit like that. I brought my biggest mess kit and it was too small. Definitely a Pop Tart next time. Thank you.
Thanks for the video.First time I've seen this stove.Very intricate piece of equipment.Your mess kit is a Bundeswehr type. I use mine with the Swedish spirit stove.Works just fine.Great video thanks.The steamer strainer is a good idea. 👍👌
I've got a couple mess kits like this. I find myself using this cheap Chinese knockoff quite a bit. Partly, because it works and partly because I don't want to mess up the "real" ones. I have one that is supposedly Soviet. It is stamped USSR 1984, but I think it might be a fake. It came packed in cosmoline, but I am just suspicious of it... still though, I've never cooked in it just to keep it pristine.
My go to stove in below freezing weather, civilian version. More work to use than a canister stove but works everytime. I have found out the hard way that at -40 canister stoves do not work, the XGK EX has no problem. Mine did not come with a simering plate, I would love that. Awesome stove but using it to cook food is hard because it's so hot, simering plate might help or I will try the advice someone left in comments on how to lower flame. Thanks for a great video!
It is like a blow torch! I suppose sometimes you need that and you can definitely work around it. I might suggest elevating your pan over the stove either by hanging it from above or using stakes to hold it up off the ground and over the stove. Thank you very much
9:06 That fiddly little bent silver wire about 1/8" in diameter that flips into your way as you are connecting the fuel bottle. It is the spring clip which holds the fuel line into the pump assembly. W/O it, only the friction of jamming the brass fuel line into the plastic pump housing's O-ring is holding your pressurized fire bomb together!
@user-hw6hb4rk9t this was my first time using one and yes... I should have read the instructions more thoroughly. I learn so much from the comments here. Thank you, I really do appreciate it.
I'm loving the color.... olive drab would have been nice though. I suppose I could get some red ones and spray paint them? Take care & have a great day
I might put that on my Christmas list. I am a Coleman fan, and I have to admit... I feel kind of weird using non Coleman stuff, but hey, if it's good then it's good. Thank you
@obsever97 ohhhĥĥh.. I was thinking it was a different model. Perhaps what I saw was different on the website from what I have. Thanks for the clarification
Wait a minute, some of the Bridgeport Marines carried stoves very similar to this one back in the day and they were MSR as well. Bridgeport is the Marines Corps cold weather and rock climbing HQ!😊
I did CW Medicine at Bridgeport in 2007, still used the Colemans. 1 out of 3 actually worked. We used to boil water for drinks & food, but also had to thaw IV bags! I picked up some MSRs from the old Government Uncle Sam's Surplus website. Love it! Semper Fi!
Yeah, this was Marine issued gear. I also read somewhere it is a favorite of mountain climbers. I was in the National Guard and we certainly did not have anything like this. Thank you very much!
@@OliveDrabAllianceSpam can, potted meat can, tuna can, etc. Just about anything like that will work. Just remember to put some holes in it so air can circulate inside. I have a Spam can set up that way that I haven’t tried yet. I do know that since it is narrow you have to be careful in setting your cup on it.
@@jamescrowe7892 I know they used to make plastic lids for SPAM cans, I'm not sure if they still do. What about a SPAM can, plastic lid and fire rope?!?!
I love Colemans. You really can't go wrong with Coleman Stoves. They are easy to repair and oldcolemanparts.com is a great resource for parts. Thank you
Fancy new stove you can burn all those fuels in a Colman stove too..,just clogs the generator quickly…wonder if it does to that stove ??? Love the videos have fun stay safe.
I love my colemans. When I buy them (usually off fb marketplace or yard sales) I always play dumb and ask if it burns gas..... if they say "That's what we always used". I pass, unless it's a rare model or one I just need. I hope you're having a great day & thank you very much.
You are correct, I now know about priming the cup. I'm glad I went outside before I lit it up though. I'm hoping next time I get it down better. Thank you & have a great day
Cool stove; it’s pricey! 🤑 instead of the cream of chicken, you should have used some SPAM and a can of cream of SPAM 😀 😋 🍽️ maybe I’ll try some rice 🍚 with spam and broccoli 🥦 sometime. Cool, fun channel! 🎥 have a great day Olive Drab Alliance. 🇺🇸
That is awesome! Not only the silver color, but the Alaska & musher parts too. Dog sled racing has always fascinated me. Thank you very much & have a great day
I didn’t like this stove back then, because their were to many parts and it flamed up really bad, which could cause a tent burn down. The Coleman’s, we could use in our tents to keep warm and dry our gear out. I did not trust the MSR stoves back then. Sorry for the bum scoop.😊
You're talking to a huge Coleman fan, so I totally get what you are saying. Yeah, you would have to fire this thing up outside and then somehow move it into the tent once it got going, and I'm betting that is a bad burn waiting to happen. Thank you very much, you brought up a great point
The Hennepin Canal. This day I was near Wyanet. In a lot of my videos I'm on the Feeder of the Hennepin near Tampico. I lived in Ottawa IL for a couple years and I love the I&M. Thanks for watching
Me too. A little to rich for my blood, or so I thought. My brother has a storage locker full if gear and he lifted this to me. I honestly can't afford to pay him back equally, but I think I have an idea that he will like and I can afford. For real though, he is a big supporter if the Olive Drab Alliance and I am grateful to be able to showcase some of the things he has acquired over the years. Stay tuned.
Nice stove. I remember when i was going to a adventurer camp from boyscouts looking for a stove. I stayed away from many multi fuel stoves because to many parts. I ended up with a hobo type brass stove with a copper pipe that had a loop. It worked amazingly well and simple. Nowadays i use a titanium woodstove and a alcohol stove. I understand some parks now only allow stoves with a actual shut-off. So i might need to change my gear.
I had a gallon of Coleman Fuel (white gas), I just unscrewed the lids and poured it in. I should have used a funnel. These bottles use liquid fuel. Super easy, just no smoking! Thank you!
I bought the Swedish Primus Multifuel a year ago. The old stainless version was on sale for $110 here in the EU. Very similar stove with a field repair kit too. Love it, but it sounds like a jet engine!
I'm used to Cokemans, I even used Coleman Fuel in it for the video. Yeah... I was shocked at the heat that thing kicked out compared to my Coleman Single burners. It does sound like a jet Thank you
@@OliveDrabAlliance Surprised the military version didn’t come with one of the silencer caps you can buy for these things. Seem to work well but too expensive. Maybe worthwhile for SHTF which I bought the stove for. I usually use a conventional gas cartridge and micro stove for camping. I’ve been prepping here in the EU since Covid and kicked it into high gear after the Russians invaded Ukraine. Proxy war on our borders. We escaped rolling blackouts the winter after Nordstream was blown up only because it was a very unusually warm winter! Politicians and the media don’t talk about it much but it was a close run thing. Enjoyed your review.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I love my little Trangia stove and feature it here from time to time. I was lucky enough to have thus MSR and thought people might like to see it. Thank you for watching & have a great day
I think it would take more time to cook, but yeah, it will cook. I shoukd add though, the way I put the lid on... was wrong. I shoukd have put the lid on upside down because I could see it was getting pushed up by the steam until it kind of got stuck. Then the steam just built up. Kind of a sticky situation, luckily for me, it turned out well. Just be careful out there. Thanks for watching
I forgot to mention, thus stove does not burn alcohol. It burns a variety of other fuels but nit alcohol. Thanks
None of the multifuel stoves burn alcohol. I don’t know why. Anybody?
@@brashachilles9725 It might offend the Muslims.
@@obsever97 Muslims are not banned from using undrinkable alcohol-based fuels like methylates spirits and ethanol, both of which are basically poison...
Stoves like the Small Unit Expeditionary Stove (SUES) by MSR are designed to burn white gas (naptha) or similar highly refined fuels because these fuels have specific characteristics that are ideal for high-performance stoves in extreme conditions. Here’s why methylated spirits (denatured alcohol) or ethanol aren’t typically used in such stoves:
1. Fuel Efficiency & Energy Density
White gas and petrol (gasoline) have higher energy densities compared to alcohol-based fuels. This means that white gas provides more heat output per unit of fuel, making it more efficient for heating large amounts of water or cooking in cold environments, where the stove must generate substantial heat over long periods.
2. Burning Characteristics
White gas burns hotter and cleaner, producing a strong, stable flame. In contrast, alcohol-based fuels like ethanol or methylated spirits burn at lower temperatures and tend to produce a weaker flame. This makes them less suitable for high-altitude or cold-weather conditions, where high heat output is crucial.
3. Clogging & Maintenance
Stoves designed for white gas have components (such as the burner and fuel line) that are engineered to work with its specific properties. Alcohol-based fuels can cause clogging or damage to the fuel system due to their lower vaporization temperatures and different chemical makeup. White gas burns with less residue, keeping the stove cleaner and requiring less maintenance.
4. Pressure & Vaporization
The pressure and vaporization characteristics of white gas make it ideal for pressurized stove systems like the SUES. Alcohol burns at lower pressures and doesn't vaporize as efficiently in these stoves, leading to inefficient combustion and less heat output.
5. Cold-Weather Performance
In freezing or high-altitude environments, ethanol and methylated spirits perform poorly compared to white gas. White gas is better at igniting and maintaining a strong flame in extreme cold, whereas alcohol fuels can struggle to vaporize and burn effectively in such conditions.
These stoves are optimized for fuels that provide reliable performance in the most demanding environments, which is why they rely on white gas or petrol over alcohol-based alternatives.
@@Funkteon Brilliant explanation!!! Thanks for that!!!
There's the concave cup dead center in the stove. Pressurize fuel bottle, then open & close valve just so there's a little bit of fuel in that cup. Close valve, light stove. When fuel is almost burned up, turn on the valve. This should prevent that big flame-up when lighting & prime the stove. Also, MSR makes an arctic pump, which I just got & will try out this winter. Should hold pressure better in extreme cold.
I have the XKG, there is a small felt pad to absorb the fuel and work like a wick so you don't waste fuel priming it. You are absolutely right, pressurize, open, let a bit of fuel out, close and then light to prime. I've been using mine for years, boils as fast as a jetboil. Only thing the jetboil does better is cools off and stores faster.
I was with Marines (Corpsman) when they switched from Coleman Peak 1 to these jets. Gamechanger, especially with reliability & durability. I love mine! I use Jetboil more, as I usually just need hot beverages & MH meals.
Thanks !
I purchased one of these at Navy exchange, in the late 80s and I’ve been using a MSR XGK-EX civilian version ever since. This is my survival, backpacking, bikepacking, and camping stove choice.
Excellent.
Have you ever had any problems with it?
Also, thanks for watching
Love that mess kit. I believe that there are different tips in the box for different fuels.
I believe there are supposed to be different tips. I don't think I looked that close for them. I used Coleman Fuel.
Thank you very much & have a good one!
I did time in the Marine Corps SOTG Arctic Branch in the early 1990s and we carried the Coleman 533 stove, plus options with the old Optimus stoves, but the 533 did the job for us. One per two Marines. I would have loved to have this stove available back then due to weight. We were also tasked with testing new equipment for the Corps in arctic environments as well and I’m glad to see the USMC still takes the time to look after their Marines with the best gear they can afford!😂 No more army dog hand me downs!😂
Testing products in the arctic sounds like a dream job to me. Love the cold and lack of people. 🤣
Semper Fi!
I was in the National Guard and the best we got were the immersion heaters the cooks used to cook with. This is definitely top notch stuff compared to most other military issued field gear.
Thank you very much
Hey I snagged a brand new coleman the alluminum can, pot clamp, and red Marines fuel bottle for $80 brand new a few years ago. Coleman new at the time was $75 no brainer.
I've never used the can to store the stove in. I heard it absorbs the fuel smell. I keep that to boil water in as well as store food in or half a leaf of bread at times whatever floats my boat on the day. Heavy stove but I like it
I'd suggest you get an Australian Stailess steel but they are a bit small, or a British Alluminum Dixie set to cook on that. Might work a lot better plus they are a decent Frying pan.
With an Australian Dixie and a cups canteen to boil water in on a coleman, I can after a day hike, put a steak, onion gravy, dehydrated peas cooked with a fresh 🥕 and dehydrated mash, on a plate. Meat 3 vege gravy what more can you want after a hike before you climb into your sleeping bag.
Those Dixie, freeze a steak in it, wrap it in a hand towel, pack it in a dry bag, bury it between clothing sleeping bafmg etc in your pack,😊 at the end of a long hike your steak is still fresh even in 40c 100F day.
I have the same stove I bought years ago. Great stove. I bought it because it is dual fuel but have used it very little as I use canister stoves for convenience. Great vid
It is always good to have options and maybe different weather conditions or scenarios will call for one stove over the other?
Take care & thank you
I didn't realise I needed another bloody stove til I saw your video! Thought the dozen or so I have would suffice.
& still, I just normally stick a metal mug or mess kit on a small fire & don't even unpack the stove from my bag!
We should start a support group. I probably have a 20 or so Coleman Stoves (double burner) 1 triple burner, 3 single burner plus a Trangia alcohol stove and 4 or 5 iso butane Stoves.
Hi, my name is Jon and I'm a stove-a-holic.
Hahaha
Thank you
@OliveDrabAlliance unfortunately it's not just the stoves that are the issue...it's all milsurp from camo jackets & smocks to rucksacks, bergens & belt kits.
The older the better, can't resist a vintage mess kit either... I have a problem ?!?!
@@Thisisnotmyname2309 hahaha.
Don't even get me started on mess kits!
We will survive!
Looks full legit -- thanks for the review!
My Optimus Nova is similar & it has been the perfect stove! I have cooked MANY excellent meals with it.
But yes, these types of stoves can be dangerous because of the fuel -- it's good to keep those skills sharp.
I definitely need more practice with it as this was my first time using one, but that just gives me an excuse to get out on the trail and get cooking.
Thank you
Reminds me to much of the whisper-lite they make. To prime it I used denatured alcohol in the priming pan so the fuel jet would not get soothed up like it does when you use the white gas to prime it. I'll stay with my alcohol and/or wood burner combination , it's a lot quieter.
Yeah, I've been informed I did it wrong. You turn the valve on to let the cup fill with a few drops, turn the valve off, then light it and then turn the valve back on.
That's part of the fun, learning something new all the time.
Thank you for watching & have a great day
Superb stove hard to find even on EBay .
I need to learn more about it, but so far, it is very nice!
Thank you & take care
Great video! Love watching this type of stuff. Looks like fun. Cheers!
It was fun. Sometimes these videos are a pain in the butt to make, there is a lot to it, but I enjoy sharing and I especially enjoy hearing back after sharing from people all around the world.
Thank you very much
John, after watching you drill holes in the cup to use as a strainer, it gave me an idea. I purchased the same mess kit as yours and drilled holes around the outside of the cup. I made 4 grooves in the lip to rest a couple of nails across, and now use it as a solid fuel cooker for the kit. It works really well 😊
That is excellent. I was thinking about putting some small bolts and nuts through 4 of the drain holes to kind of elevate the pot.
Somebody in a comment gave me that idea, but I really like how you described what you did.
Nothing says we can't modify this stuff ya know?
Thank you very much!
Congratulations on 2K!!
Thank you I really honestly an surprised and very grateful. I wanted to do this youtube thing because I have an artistic side and felt I have something to share. I'm just happy to share it. I hope you have a great day.
Good Evening John ! Looks like a nice stove. TAKE CARE..
Too nice for me, that's for sure. My brother gave this to me. I owe him biggly, but I have an idea....... stay tuned
@@OliveDrabAlliance Don't worry, I'll BE WATCHIN ! TAKE CARE..
Nice stove
I wonder if it is supposed to be used with the "Mountain Mess Kit"?
It has a round pot that would fit very well on the burner.
I've seen them for sale but they are pricey.
You should have had a poptart for dessert in memory of
Paul Harrell.
Thanks for showing the stove and congratulations on 2k.
Thank you. I am 100% sure it was supposed to go with the mountain cook kit. It is meant for a larger kit like that. I brought my biggest mess kit and it was too small.
Definitely a Pop Tart next time.
Thank you.
Nice stove, good demo, I have a similar MRS stove, really like it
Excellent. I'm looking forward to using it more, but I am for sure not getting rid of my colemans or my Trangia.
Thank you & take care.
I bought the self-reliance one. I've never used it, but I have it in the truck. It was only 70 or so. I had the money back then.
Give it a try sometime. I always recommend testing gear before depending on gear.
Thank you for watching and best wishes to you.
Thanks for the video.First time I've seen this stove.Very intricate piece of equipment.Your mess kit is a Bundeswehr type. I use mine with the Swedish spirit stove.Works just fine.Great video thanks.The steamer
strainer is a good idea. 👍👌
I've got a couple mess kits like this. I find myself using this cheap Chinese knockoff quite a bit. Partly, because it works and partly because I don't want to mess up the "real" ones. I have one that is supposedly Soviet. It is stamped USSR 1984, but I think it might be a fake. It came packed in cosmoline, but I am just suspicious of it... still though, I've never cooked in it just to keep it pristine.
@@OliveDrabAlliance life is too short. Live it out. Your life is in your own hands. 👌👍
@@CalumMacNeil-qb6wp right on.
Keep on keeping on, ya know?
My go to stove in below freezing weather, civilian version. More work to use than a canister stove but works everytime. I have found out the hard way that at -40 canister stoves do not work, the XGK EX has no problem. Mine did not come with a simering plate, I would love that. Awesome stove but using it to cook food is hard because it's so hot, simering plate might help or I will try the advice someone left in comments on how to lower flame. Thanks for a great video!
It is like a blow torch! I suppose sometimes you need that and you can definitely work around it.
I might suggest elevating your pan over the stove either by hanging it from above or using stakes to hold it up off the ground and over the stove.
Thank you very much
I used Coleman gas in this video.
Thanks!
Great video my friend…..👍🏻
A very different type of stove indeed…..
thanks for sharing and Stay Strong 💪🏻…👍🏻‼️
I'm trying my best buddy. All is well, great in fact and I hope it is for you too.
Thank you very much.
9:06 That fiddly little bent silver wire about 1/8" in diameter that flips into your way as you are connecting the fuel bottle. It is the spring clip which holds the fuel line into the pump assembly. W/O it, only the friction of jamming the brass fuel line into the plastic pump housing's O-ring is holding your pressurized fire bomb together!
I thought just friction held it in.
Thank you & good eye!
@@OliveDrabAlliance My MSR Dragonfly stove has the same catch setup.
@user-hw6hb4rk9t this was my first time using one and yes... I should have read the instructions more thoroughly. I learn so much from the comments here. Thank you, I really do appreciate it.
Sweet color on the cans would be easy to lose in woodland
Overall that color and kit rocks
I'm loving the color.... olive drab would have been nice though. I suppose I could get some red ones and spray paint them?
Take care & have a great day
I thought I was going to lose my dinner, when I saw you brought broccoli. 😉 👍
I know right!?!?!
I had to test out the vegetable steamer.... otherwise I would have added SPAM.
Hahahaha
Thank you
@@OliveDrabAlliance I was afraid you’d also brought a can of Treat.
MSR sells the MSR XGK-EX Multi-Fuel Mountaineering Expedition Stove for $139.
I might put that on my Christmas list. I am a Coleman fan, and I have to admit... I feel kind of weird using non Coleman stuff, but hey, if it's good then it's good.
Thank you
@@OliveDrabAlliance I think you already have one. I believe it's the civi model you just used in this video.
@obsever97 ohhhĥĥh.. I was thinking it was a different model.
Perhaps what I saw was different on the website from what I have.
Thanks for the clarification
Great video i subscribed
Welcome to the Alliance. Thank you.
Wait a minute, some of the Bridgeport Marines carried stoves very similar to this one back in the day and they were MSR as well. Bridgeport is the Marines Corps cold weather and rock climbing HQ!😊
I did CW Medicine at Bridgeport in 2007, still used the Colemans. 1 out of 3 actually worked. We used to boil water for drinks & food, but also had to thaw IV bags! I picked up some MSRs from the old Government Uncle Sam's Surplus website. Love it! Semper Fi!
Yeah, this was Marine issued gear. I also read somewhere it is a favorite of mountain climbers. I was in the National Guard and we certainly did not have anything like this.
Thank you very much!
Do you happen to remember what Coleman they used? I'm a huge Coleman fan and my brother was a Navy Corpman, so I'm very curious about this.
Thank you
Thanks for sharing 😊
Thank you for watching.
I'm sure this stove will appear if future videos from time to time.
Take care
C rat can with a fuel tab as passed along to me by an SF trooper. Didn’t have those fancy Cadillac stoves.
I might try that with a SPAM can.
Thanks for watching & take care
@@OliveDrabAllianceSpam can, potted meat can, tuna can, etc. Just about anything like that will work. Just remember to put some holes in it so air can circulate inside. I have a Spam can set up that way that I haven’t tried yet. I do know that since it is narrow you have to be careful in setting your cup on it.
@@jamescrowe7892 I know they used to make plastic lids for SPAM cans, I'm not sure if they still do. What about a SPAM can, plastic lid and fire rope?!?!
I've always debated. On the Coleman single burner or one of these
I love Colemans. You really can't go wrong with Coleman Stoves. They are easy to repair and oldcolemanparts.com is a great resource for parts.
Thank you
Fancy new stove you can burn all those fuels in a Colman stove too..,just clogs the generator quickly…wonder if it does to that stove ??? Love the videos have fun stay safe.
I love my colemans. When I buy them (usually off fb marketplace or yard sales) I always play dumb and ask if it burns gas..... if they say "That's what we always used". I pass, unless it's a rare model or one I just need.
I hope you're having a great day & thank you very much.
Read the instructions... You need to follow the proper priming procedure.
You are correct, I now know about priming the cup. I'm glad I went outside before I lit it up though. I'm hoping next time I get it down better. Thank you & have a great day
For a second, i thought you were gonna add some spam cubes to the steam tray.
I knew I would catch hell for that. Hahahahaha.
It was good, but would have been better with SPAM.
Speam?
I didn't know I needed another stove 😂
I am sorry.... but I think you will enjoy it very much.
Take care and thank you very much
Neat. Thank you
Thank you, my friend. I appreciate you watching and commenting and hope you have a fantastic day.
I like the fuel bottles ...those can be full with propane o butane or both?
Just liquid fuel. Gasoline, white case, kerosene or JP-8
They don't hold propane or butane.
Cool stove; it’s pricey! 🤑 instead of the cream of chicken, you should have used some SPAM and a can of cream of SPAM 😀 😋 🍽️ maybe I’ll try some rice 🍚 with spam and broccoli 🥦 sometime. Cool, fun channel! 🎥 have a great day Olive Drab Alliance. 🇺🇸
I knew I should have used SPAM... dang it!!! You know, Someday I will figure this out. SPAM is the key.
Hahahhahahha
Thank you for cracking me up!
Have friend that was musher in alaska, used one of these, fuel bottles are silver
That is awesome! Not only the silver color, but the Alaska & musher parts too. Dog sled racing has always fascinated me.
Thank you very much & have a great day
I didn’t like this stove back then, because their were to many parts and it flamed up really bad, which could cause a tent burn down. The Coleman’s, we could use in our tents to keep warm and dry our gear out. I did not trust the MSR stoves back then. Sorry for the bum scoop.😊
You're talking to a huge Coleman fan, so I totally get what you are saying.
Yeah, you would have to fire this thing up outside and then somehow move it into the tent once it got going, and I'm betting that is a bad burn waiting to happen.
Thank you very much, you brought up a great point
Nice stove! Great video explanation of it too.
Which canal was that? I spent the last few years exploring the I& M canal.
The Hennepin Canal. This day I was near Wyanet. In a lot of my videos I'm on the Feeder of the Hennepin near Tampico.
I lived in Ottawa IL for a couple years and I love the I&M.
Thanks for watching
@@OliveDrabAlliance I thought the area looked familiar. I'm down in Plainfield.
@@RickMunday nice, I'm over to the west, about 30 Mike's from the quad cities. I like to go to different places in the area to make videos.
Thumbs up #58. 👍
Thank you very much.
Keep on Rocking and have an excellent day!
Broken, pregnant, or missing as far as the rock goes! Didn't have anything like that when i was in. Semper Fi
Hahaha... I've never heard the missing part, but it makes sense.
Thank you so much & have a great day
that is way to fancy for me lol
Me too. A little to rich for my blood, or so I thought. My brother has a storage locker full if gear and he lifted this to me. I honestly can't afford to pay him back equally, but I think I have an idea that he will like and I can afford. For real though, he is a big supporter if the Olive Drab Alliance and I am grateful to be able to showcase some of the things he has acquired over the years. Stay tuned.
Nice stove. I remember when i was going to a adventurer camp from boyscouts looking for a stove. I stayed away from many multi fuel stoves because to many parts.
I ended up with a hobo type brass stove with a copper pipe that had a loop. It worked amazingly well and simple.
Nowadays i use a titanium woodstove and a alcohol stove.
I understand some parks now only allow stoves with a actual shut-off. So i might need to change my gear.
That stove sounds interesting. I'm familiar with tuna can style Trangia alcohol Stoves, but not with a coil.
I'm going to check that out.
Thank you
That simmer plate may have granted more stability for the cook set.
I agree. I got in a hurry, out of excitement I guess.
I look forward to testing it more and getting more familiar with it.
Thank you
I knocked my rock up. 😂
Hahaha.
Semper Fi to you & thanks for watching
@@OliveDrabAlliance Keep the vids comin. Oorah!
Man I would like to see how you filled up those bottles with fuel ...
I had a gallon of Coleman Fuel (white gas), I just unscrewed the lids and poured it in. I should have used a funnel.
These bottles use liquid fuel. Super easy, just no smoking!
Thank you!
The red fuel bottles is my guess probably only in the civilian market.
That makes sense. It would be kind of backwards for military to use red bottles.
Thank you.
I bought the Swedish Primus Multifuel a year ago. The old stainless version was on sale for $110 here in the EU. Very similar stove with a field repair kit too. Love it, but it sounds like a jet engine!
I'm used to Cokemans, I even used Coleman Fuel in it for the video. Yeah... I was shocked at the heat that thing kicked out compared to my Coleman Single burners. It does sound like a jet
Thank you
@@OliveDrabAlliance Surprised the military version didn’t come with one of the silencer caps you can buy for these things. Seem to work well but too expensive. Maybe worthwhile for SHTF which I bought the stove for. I usually use a conventional gas cartridge and micro stove for camping. I’ve been prepping here in the EU since Covid and kicked it into high gear after the Russians invaded Ukraine. Proxy war on our borders. We escaped rolling blackouts the winter after Nordstream was blown up only because it was a very unusually warm winter! Politicians and the media don’t talk about it much but it was a close run thing. Enjoyed your review.
@@brashachilles9725 keep prepping. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
hi , how do I contact u? I didnt your contact info
You can email me at
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Alcohol stoves weigh about 2 oz. rather than 2 lbs. They cost about 20$ rather than 200$. ???😅
Oh, don't get me wrong, I love my little Trangia stove and feature it here from time to time. I was lucky enough to have thus MSR and thought people might like to see it.
Thank you for watching & have a great day
Gas ? count me out .
I should have mentioned how these and Coleman Stoves can use gasoline, it will dirty them up. I stick with Coleman Fuel.
Thanks for watching
I was wondering if you put beef with the veggies, would that work ?
I think it would take more time to cook, but yeah, it will cook.
I shoukd add though, the way I put the lid on... was wrong. I shoukd have put the lid on upside down because I could see it was getting pushed up by the steam until it kind of got stuck. Then the steam just built up. Kind of a sticky situation, luckily for me, it turned out well. Just be careful out there.
Thanks for watching