HYLO Open 2022 | Chou Tien Chen (TPE) [3] vs. Anthony Sinisuka Ginting (INA) [5] | F
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- Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024
- HYLO Open 2022 | Super 300
Men's Singles | Finals
Chou Tien Chen (TPE) [3] vs. Anthony Sinisuka Ginting (INA) [5]
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Something has to be done to fix umpire and judges. JUSTICE must be served for the players
And they played along by not replaying the shots just to not show the umpire’s shit call
@@thebestbees That is indeed what baffles me as well. Where were the replays?
yeh!
Did you all realize that there is no Highlight video being made for this match? All Highlight videos for the other 4 matches are made but not for this one. They are probably contemplating whether to make a highlight video of an umpire robbing the whole match. Such a shame because this match would have been the most highlighted of the entire tournament if he didn't ruin it.
That’s ridiculous, No highlight on this match.
They won't upload the highlight I guess. They're not ready facing the backlash. They'll just say sorry and that's it.... move on to another same-old mistake.
@@geetraldinha EXACTLY
No var lol
Umpire calls a fault at the most important point of the match and has the audacity to not allow CTC a replay... Absolutely terrible umpiring and there should be a change in this area of the game as I believe players should be able to challenge not only the point but also faults called against them. A very disappointing and dishonorable ending to an amazing game.
For the record, this umpire was claimed to be one of Gill Clarke’s favourites several times during her commentary coverage.
@@first8956 your mom is my .favorite. doesn't mean she does a good job for me
Its not part of the rules to just watch replay and rejudge. But it should be
ginting very lucky won this match from umpire mistake
This is so unacceptable. This is not the first time which a referee makes a call which cannot be overruled or challenged. It is 2022, how are we going forward as a sport if we cannot even have a “VAR” system for these kinds of things.
My first introduction to this was when Lee Chong Wei won his first All England in 2010 against Tago. Last shot hit by Lee Chong Wei was clearly out, slow-mo showed it... yet the decision couldn't be overturned... I'm like WTF? Someone's future gold medal could hang on the balance of an old line judge with bad eyesight.
Yeah, at least have some effort like replays review
true..& CTC was robbed twice of points , the one when empire said he moved first when Ginting hasn't started his serve w/c in video is not true & the most crucial one is that incredible shot from almost in the floor recovery w/c went back in
Agreed
Makes me furious how Umpires have too much power. How is it justified that a set of wandering eyes sitting on a high chair is supposed to govern all. Ridiculous. And they didn’t even have the balls to play a replay on it.
1:17:58 It wouldn't hurt to at least show the replay... even if shuttle touched ground and Chou saw it on replay he would be focused on next point....everybody would be pissed off like this
of course, if it was a fault they would show the replay, they didn't show it because it wasn't a fault
yeah, why didnt them just show the replay, im also curious like im a ginting fans but feels like his win is not satisfied to me bcs of this thing
They didn’t show the replay because it was a controversial call and they don’t want any backlash for any mistakes made
@@thetruth5678 the truth is hurting them i guess
@@miguelpires8964 i would also want it showed but rule is that Challenge is only in the case of in/out of shuttle. Other than that it is the umpire decision.
WTF, the shuttlecock was at least 2 inches off the ground when chou lifted it. The umpire wasted chou's comeback effort.
Same thing happened to Ginting at Hongkong Open 2019 against Lee Cheuk Yiu. This kind of things not only rob the point and potentially the match from the losing party, but also take away the joy and satisfaction from the winner. They need to reform the rules.
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yea ginting celebration didnt really feels like he earned it compared to other winning tournament
Imagine saving 6 match points with sheer will and efforts just to be robbed an amateur mistake by the umpire (or potentially intentional). We need a VAR - instant review in the future, where the referee reviews the decision and overrule. And maybe like they get only 1-2 times only to do this for the entire match, so that it’s balanced
No need var. Empire have justice
I've watched it frame-by-frame and there was NO FOULT! Shuttle was hit by Chou few centimeters above the floor! Terrible mistake. Time to use video verification.
VAR like football would be nice
But again as I said, it is the umpire decision. In a quick of time frame no one can overrule that. Like it or not the player must accept that.just like in case of "serve too high"
@@redblue2743 VAR is never wrong, I think CTC is more frustrated that there's no replay, thats the unacceptable part. Imo players should be able to challenge or something in instances like these.
There was only a camera angle from Chou’s back though…
@@first8956 definitely have a side camera view. This is in final tho. All whole match throughout the game have a side view angle ,just that this point the camera (director behind the cameraman ) not dare to put the side view.
And actually in social media there are a front view video regarding this point which took by the court (took from ginting view). Where can clearly see there CTC dint fault in the rally .
Shame on BWF's judgement system and the Umpire's unacceptable behavior! WTF was stopping the athlete's request for no replay from the live recording? That was so mean in this game
I wish they would have shown if the shuttle actually hit the ground. Unfortunate ending to a good match for Chou but well played by Ginting.
no replay, I feel bewildered about "The fair" of this match
The umpire admitted he made a mistake after the game, but didn’t apologize, which he should.
@@TheSiamese814 source?
@@EvilBambo0 “trust me bro”
The umpire just ruined a great game, they even didn't have the ball to show the replay, absoluty disgusting.
I wonder why they never replay the questioned ball ? 🤔
Because they are cowards who dont want to take responsibilty for their mistakes
Because the umpire knows he’s in the wrong.
No var. Rules is rules
CTC like a lovely child with a very soft heart, he was trying hard to hold his tears coz of upsetness. Don"t be upset CTC coz miss/inaccurate judgment can just happen to any player. the judgment could be right or could be wrong but regardless of that all players need to learn to manage the situation & keep up focusing the fight with confidence. Jia you CTC. Congrats Ginting , not so easy for him to keep up with fast rhythm, salute for his, persistency 💪
No players need to receive the injustice
All players have their own RIGHT to resist injustice, at least can understand the truths
Chou's racket hit the floor before retrieving the shuttle and made a sound. The umpire misjudged but didn't want to admit own mistake.
As always. Bad umpiring everywhere
It is the umpire decision about what he saw even though it can't be proved. It is about player's mentality in some "unlucky" situation like serve too high etc.
@@awanderer9000 I'm just referring to that point. Did I say anything else?
@@lcmb7591 I had to reread your comment and see if I misread it and if his comment has any connection to yours. NONE.
@@lcmb7591 Agreed. Moving my comment one level up.
Chou has all the right to be frustrated, because that was definitely a critical point in this close game. The way the umpire and the judges were responding was just unprofessional in my opinion.
I am 100% sure that it was not a fault play by Chou, but a clear mistake made by the umpire. Unfortunately, it was the most important point in the game and, so ironically, the final game of the HYLO Open was "determined" by the umpire but not the players. I also doubt that Ginting will be proud of such a "championship"? Umpires making big mistakes like this (and arrogantly insisting on his misjudgement) are considered disqualified and should not be reappointed in future games, particularly important ones.
absolutely agree
For the last two days, Semi Final and Final, this guy must never to be chosen. The eye sight is very bad!!!
Ginting should be very disappointed in how he let CTC get back into the game in the first place. He always messed up mentally. To be honest, I will be very dissapointed if ginting actually lost that match. He was on the way to losing it and would have lost if that point went to chou
Ginting experienced the same thing at Hong Kong Open but still he didn’t steal the moment of winning the match from the champion, unlike the otherwise…
What s function of umpire? They have shown your racket hit the floor
Diluar nalar kemampuanmu..hebat membalikan keadaan .sungguh cerdas dan kuat.antony sini suka ginting👑
I am a ginting fan…. But this is hurting tbh it was clearly not a fault , if you would slow down the video it’s clearly seen he took it well above the ground😢….. even ginting does not look satisfied 🤧😰
lebay lu..jelas itu kesalahan si Chou banyak drama
@@bayurocky1326 🤣🤣
Chou berkali-kali TANTRUM JiN ifrit setiap kalah sama A.S.GintinG ...
China Open 2018 Chou Tantrum jin ifrit sok tengil ngata-ngatain GintinG pegang net
Singapore Open 2018 Tantrum Siluman Ular Penghisap Darah Teriak-Teriak Sampe diTegur Wasit pura-pura Ga DengaR
Thomas-Uber Cup,Sudirman Cup ect Ngambek ...
masih banyak lagi ...giliran lawannya bukan GintinG reaksinya biasa-biasa saja
Saya salut dengan pelatih Chou, dia mengajarkan kesabaran dan legowo 👍
Bukan pelatih... Tp fisioterapis... Krn CTC orngnya bad mood an
How on earth is that a faut from chou tien chen! Totally robbed, that's ashame...
No guts replay 23score fault?, worst umpire
Very disappointing end to a good match. It could've been a great comeback by Chou, or a sweet victory for Ginting, but the call at a crucial moment of the game at 22-22 of the third set ruined it for both of them. I am not necessarily blaming the umpire, as humans we all make mistakes, but why even now in 2023 we can't use technology like replays to assist umpires in making fair judgement for all the players? We've been through these situations time and time again and nothing changes. It's very damaging to our sport
You are right,I am very disappointed about it
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When the umpire bets against Chou, it became obvious why he had to ensure that Ginting won. A well-played match between two players, scarred only by the umpire and BWF's lack of transparency in spite of available replay technology.
What is the use of tournament referee actually (that person in red shirt)? They come out, talk to the umpire for like 10 seconds, and 99.9% of the time, they didn't make any differences. I cannot recall one instant where the tournament referee actually made a difference in a situation where it was uncalled for.
You know it's unacceptable when CTC is sad and angry.
I feel sorry for ctc if it's not a mistake, ginting has also experienced the same thing, but he remains patient with the referee's decision even though of course he is also disappointed but he is still able to smile. it's sportsmanship and that's the game, the decision is with the referee. keep the spirit ctc and congrats ginting
1:17:58 Unacceptable judgement
how can we have hawkeye but not video replay? damn, poor CTC.
why there is no chance to challenge this situation by video ?
Well Played Ginting Yet unacceptable on the Judgement against Chou ! not sure why even the coverage didnt make an effort on the replay ..... Unacceptable ruling !!! All the Best Chou !!!
I don't understand why players continue to play after the umpire makes incorrect calls like this. They should just sit down at their rest bench until the problem is fixed. By obeying the umpire and letting these poor calls slide, it has now become a norm among umpires to make whatever call they want and insist the players play on - they get away with it too easily with no consequences. If the player doesn't play on and insists a replay be shown, then the umpire will be pressured to do something - it's their job to make sure play is continuous.
Certainly, there's a chance the umpire could red card the player to cost them another point, but that would make huge news. Imagine, an umpire taking a second unjust point away from a player. That would cause a much bigger scene and draw attention to the issue than how it's currently handled. Currently, players just allow umpires to walk all over them, and if we happen to miss that moment in the match, we'll probably never hear about it, or it'll be forgotten. But an incident where an umpire takes the whole match away from a player that was already wronged a point will spread through the community much greater.
Unfortunately, all of the players are short sighted. They want change, but they also want a chance to win the current tournament. They'd rather let the umpire walk over them and hope that they'll make a comeback in the match. Over years and years of this relationship between players and umpires, it has now become the expectation that players will eventually concede the point and play on. As much as I feel bad for CTC, him allowing the umpire to do what he did is part of the problem why the sport is the way it is today.
What a POOR POOR JUDGEMENT from the umpire!!!🥵🙅🏼♂️🤷🏻♂️ the head of the officials DID NOT DO ANYTHING about it🙅🏼♂️🥵
Serious question : could the head of the court officials have done something? I felt like I have seen it more than a few times that the head was called onto the court but only to tell the player to continue playing. What is their mandate exactly?
Yeah, seriously - what is the point of those tournament referees, if the original call always stands lol
I think the head official can overrule the umpire's call if he wants to
@@doods20fer41 by rule yes they can ,they can even check the replay before that .but actual they will never do that.
2022 and there’s no review using technology? Review it and see what happened. Simple. These referees won’t go back on a decision they made.
Show us the playback for justice!
There should be a review on the video or service judge confirmation or any other methods
Absolutely disappointing, would break my heart if this happened to me can't imagine it with such high stakes.
Awkward ending. Chou couldn't be more devastated, Ginting couldn't celebrated, awkward handshakes. All could have been avoided if there were challenges against the umpire's fault call.
The umpire should refund the tickets to all the people as he single handedly ruin the game and make the Ginting's champion worthless.
Ginting shows empathy towards CTC by not celebrating his victory too much, unlike Lee Cheuk Yiu towards Ginting Hongkong open 2019. It really hurts Ginting. But He remains patient and keeps trying to smile.
Full respect for both players.
it would be clearer if they replayed Chou's mistake, Why isn't there a replay video
I just don't understand it. Why don't even have a playback. It's 2022 now. Shoud be have camera form every angle. Stop hiding the truth!
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Yg dmiliki Ginting.
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Kmi sllymendoakanmu agrjuara
Ginting deserves the champion in this game although the referee's decision has been called by CTC. Very good final match though
Injustice for CTC
This is not my first time seeing problems with the umpires. They need to replay in order to prove it… poor chou :/
Km adalah kebanggaan kami Ginting indola kami slm dari Lombok.
Ginting deserved to win but Chou did not deserve to lose.
the umpire deserve to lose his license
@@doods20fer41 ^
and Chou making drama 😁
@@bayurocky1326 How is it drama when the umpire called fault MISTAKENLY? Get ur eyes washed before u speak.
Wtf was the false in 22-22???????? Totally a joke
Absolute bullshit
that umpire was a ..........an umpire lol... it was a very hard angle to judge really, they shouldve had a replay instead as it was understandable mistake, but nooo, he didnt want to accept his mistake, they COULD'VE but they DIDN'T... DISGUSTING OFFICIALS
Disappointments in life: 1. Losing a job, 2. Getting into a car crash, 3. Failing a test, 4. Henrik Boas’s umpiring skills.
He should be jailed.
How blind people can be umpire nowadays
Poor CTC can't g et a win, I feel so so bad for him. Hopefully nex titme!! He deserves a win so badly. Nonetheless, congrats to Ginting who 100% deserved the win regardless. Unfortunately there was some real injustice done during this match so hopefully something can be done about that
ever consider the coaching he receives? ♥
I love when ginting take 21-20 ..his expression so emotional . I love that
Totally unacceptable, what the hell means "sports need to deal with this kind of stuff." Then why implementing the Hawkeye system, just hire some kids to judge, it even lowers the budget.
Also the service judge, he saw it. But he totally shut his mouth up, only smile. What???
Thats umpires for you, cowards without spine
Let him and everybody see the fuckin replay if that’s a fault. Poor CTC , i feel him
The way a referee can misjudge a call and determine the outcome of a championship is cruel and unnecessary to all players, with reviews easily available.
Now is time to improve how referees can make better calls ahead of future tournaments.
Kok klu sdh jatuh ke lantai lapangan tdk boleh di pukul sbb kok sdh mati
There's should be a replay and the next maybe just the redo of the rally from the service
holy sh*t blind judgement , just the racket hit the floor , miss call at the critical moment in the very end of the game ruin all the effort of CHou .
The umpires fault call ruined the otherways excellent match...
58:51 did he just -
Omg... who was that devil giving the thumbs up snd wink to??? 😱
Oh WTF!, this terrible useless unpire should get investigated on. WHY THE HELL IN THE WORLD WOULD HE THUMBS UP TO THE COACH OF GINTING AND GIVE A SMIRK SMILE?
Do'a bibik semoga ank ku ginting margana yg pertama yg no sada aamiin.
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referee just lost CTC the game
I usually don’t comment, but this is so unacceptable umpiring. The smirks on these umpires have to go.
The judge must bet so much on gintin to make that decision
why no replay?
Very simple question:
Where is the replay? Why do you hide it?
1:17:59. 0,25x speed
+ zoom in to the spot too for mobile users, not very clear but at least we can give our own judgements
@@kagendralaga actually definitely they have a side view camera angle of this scene.but they for sure not dare to show that replay.
He sit on the high chair like that. It s hard to judge kind of that shot. This is 2022. Player should be allow to challenge the umpire not just only linejudge. The technology of the camera rn is much better than before. The slow motion with high fame rate can tell everything.
Buka jam brapa dan tutup nya jam brapa mas?
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谁影帝？
@@janetsmith2000 小天啊，绰号影帝啊，你不知道？
Just noticed that at 58:50, the umpire winked and gave a thumbs up to…… wow😱😱😱 So was everything planned??? Poor CTC😢
Good observation. Others have pointed this out as well. It was clearly planned and this piece of trash Umpire should have his license revoked and be punished.
I agree,the call was controversial and should have been a replay,and there should be a challenge against the judge since by naked eye anyone can make mistake as this is a fast game.This challenge against judge should be upheld in upcoming tournaments, but I feel chou should have forget about that and focussed on the next point,he was way distracted otherwise he would have won
not easy to say to forget it my guy, that was a very crucial point after all the effort he put in, after the call wasmade it was obvious chou was going to lose the game.
@@rdweesit your right,it is not easy to forget at such a crucial stage but what else you could do,the umpire decision was final at the moment , you have to put it behind you,the match wasn't over then, you never know, it was a 50-50 chance,he did save many match points earlier.
@@salmansyed9147 chances of him winning was not even 50% lol after all that, then to suffer a mental blow like that, it was pretty obvious he want going to win that.
@@rdweesit ong easier said than done
CTC was robbed twice of crucial points
I don't understand what happened in the end... Can anyone explain me?
a great coach of chou tien chen
Krn jam Hongkong mainnya terll pagi JD nonton siaran ulangnya saja ..syukur Ginting menang
Ini kameranya apa gimana kok warnanya gini, kontras/saturasi kenceng
Ginting you are great we re proud of you keep it up
Moh
Ijangan sampao macet tolong bersihkan trm kasih
saya senang melihat ginting bermain dia hampir leñgkap cara mainnya.
Respect Chou Tien Chen🤩🤩🤩
But he has no respect for Ginting’s win?
just saw this on my feed... and yeah there is no replay for that point... they knew that the umpire robbed chou the point so they wouldn't show the point...
Good gintingg, wonderfull
Absolutely, It's not the first time to happen.
Raket chou menyentuh lantai terlebih dahulu sebelom menyambut datangnya bola, itu yng dilihat hakim lapangan dan wasit
This is unacceptable. Action must be taken what kind of competition is this. This is World competition not some kind of small competition.
Show us the replay !!!!
Siapa pelatih AS ginting pada saat ini dan saat pertandingan itu
Menpora. Harus. Bisa. Membangun. Mental. Dan. Kepercayaan. Diri. Yang. Kuat. Dan. Besar. Pada. Para. Atlit. Yang. Hendak. Bertanding. Melawan. Bangsa. Lain. Seperti. Atlit. Sepak. Bola. Ketika. Melawan. Thailand. Sehingga. Berhasil. Menjadi. Juara. Kucinya. Di mental. Fan. Kepercayaan. Diri. Lalu. Skil. Dan. Kekuatan. Fisik. Dan. Bela. Diri. Yang. Lincah. 👍👍
Set 2. Poin 10-14
Foul nya dimana ya. Ada yg bs jelasin?
Ga ada foul tuh..yg ada pas 13_9
What was that at 58.50? If it is what it looked like, then it's just ridiculous .
Umpire is the king, no replay no challenge, i am the king !
terrible end, very frustrating !
The umpire adjust the points with a tablet bro.. just add replays to it dammit
3:41 and 3:49 Traitors
At 3:49, it's like he already knew what he was going to do
1:19:58 Victoria Cao is hilarious. That was just a shitty call at the end and no replay felt bad for Chou, that come back for nothing.
Ginting memang pemain bt idolaku.