The fact that all these morons were out to sue Fenn for something their relative did voluntarily is so sad. Too many money grubbers out there. I’m glad Fenn didn’t fold like a card on his stance
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
Agreed… greed is a powerful thing, isn’t it? Absolutely not his fault, but hey, need to blame someone other than themselves and their crazy relatives and spouses 🙄
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
Fenn said it was located where a 79-80 year old man could travel. So that left all kinds of the dangerous things out. Period. Think about it. Seriously.
I must say, I'm thankful to have come to the comments to find so many people thinking the same as myself. Why is it Fenn's fault for the decisions of others. Shouldn't they take some accountability for their own lack of planning, preparations, and skill level?
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
I don't find it sinister really. It is tragic that people took enormous risks and died. 1. Fenn wasn't young when he hid it. 2. That box must have weight a good deal and supply for the trip ie water, food etc. 3. He gave calculations of time and distance. 4. Weather. You have to keep all this in mind as a base factor BEFORE starting to even think about the rest of the clues and plan a trip to find the "chest". Obviously many didn't and we will never know how many gave up and safely went home. Sadly at least 5 paid the price. So: don't blame him. They chose to go for it.
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
I find the greed of the treasure seekers to be more sinister than anything that Fenn did. It gave people something to do for ten years until the treasure was found. The treasure seeking pastor who lost his life must have forgotten, "It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail." John 6:63.
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
Why are all these people mad at him? It's not his fault that people go look for this treasure. It's dangerous terrain, but like someone else pointed out, Forrest managed to carry the chest, hike to wherever he hid it, and get back home alive. Granted, he's got experience in hiking, walking that terrain, etc.. Then he gives clues to keep people out of dangerous places. If people are that greedy and obsessed with gold amd jewels, which would be great to find, that's a character flaw and not his problem. He even told people that it wasn't in a dangerous place. So why do people keep doing stupid s##t? Maybe they think that he's lying to keep people from finding it? Conspiracy theories, folks. The more I hear, the more it sounds like sour grapes because they didn't find it. Im glad someone found it.Good Lord, what a mess this turned into because of greed and obsession.RIP to all the men who died. Congratulations to the man who found it, and as always... GREAT story!! I read about it a looong time ago and it was really cool to hear the whole story and all of the details that you're so good about researching and getting to us!
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
I truly am sorry for all that lost their lives chasing after this treasure. However, I don’t think it’s the old man’s fault. Before I embarked on searching for it, I would have considered it was stashed by an old man so it wouldn’t be somewhere too crazy. Even though it was laced with tragedy, the story itself was pretty cool. This is something people usually only wish and dream would happen in their lifetime.
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
I think people TOTALLY missed Fenn's real treasure.... I think he was trying to get people off their couches, and get them into the great outdoors! You can't live your life through the screen of a cell phone.....
Honestly, it's ridiculous to think that this man was blamed for "fatalities which were caused by his choices." No. The fatalities, unfortunately, occurred due to overzealous searchers blindly embarking on a quest that took them into unknown territory where they were absolutely unprepared for the terrain/conditions. Never heard so much nonsense, in my life!
OMG, I was going to say same damn thing!! Maybe morally, he could have stopped it IF he thought he should or wanted to. But, he didn't make them go out there or go unprepared or stick a gun to their head!! These guys knew the risks, and he gave them hints not to go in dangerous places or where it would not be. Sheesh!!!
I agree with you but, it’s still very sad for the families… imagine your brother going out and never coming back. But no, it was certainly not Fenn’s fault. Also, I believe these ppl were well prepared. I live in Colorado. One look at the mountains and you know you have to be damn sure you know what you’re doing before going into them. They just searched in ridiculous places bc they thought an 80 yr old man was an acrobat.
Forrest fenn was sending people on a wild goose chase because the box was found in 2013. So he was sending people out telling them it was there when it wasn't any longer. Forrest fenn is directly responsible for all of the deaths.
I understand that the grieving families were looking for someone to blame, but I don't believe any of this is Forrest's fault. A lot of the people who died chose to ignore the warnings and precautions given to them. Forrest wasn't young when he hid this treasure, and it was probably hidden somewhere that he frequented regularly. The people who chose to white water raft, hike at dangerous elevations, and stay out in the cold without proper gear are the ones who should be "blamed", not Forrest. I put blamed in quotations because it seemed like these people were doing what they loved (despite some of their poor choices), and when it comes to these types of accidents, sometimes there just isn't anyone to blame. Hearing this story, it sounds like Forrest wanted to inspire a new generation to explore and think and use their imaginations to discover new things about the world around them. He wanted to give others the same passion he had for the beauty and wonder that can be found everywhere, even our own backyards. I sympathize with those who lost their loved ones, as well as those who lost their lives. But I genuinely think Forrest did more good than harm. I'm sure he inspired many people to get out of their homes and drink in their surroundings in a new way, and that's never a bad thing,
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
It's a fake story. Forrest fenn was a class clown looking for attention. Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
"Was it all worth it?" All those people made the decision that it was worth it to risk their lives to search for the treasure. No one else made that decision for them. They were responsible for their own actions.
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
I love this man and belive he only ment good . And people blaming him for his choices. But not the choices of the hunters. Only the hunters had something to gain.
You can't blame the man for making a fun treasure hunt. *Greed* is what killed the "hunters" not Forrest! If they would've hunted in groups and shared their findings then there would've been far less *accidental* deaths.
@@marymoor9293 yep, that's like blaming the Nationals Parks for hikers that go hiking unprepared, no skills and at their own risks. It's not the parks fault that the hikers made the wrong choices and did not take the proper precautions or safety measures.
Nothing sinister in my mind. We all should take responsibility for our own actions. No one was forced to go look for treasure. Some went and looked for it mearly as an adventure but others out of greed and even dispair. But whatever the reason they went it was their own choice. Most people will always think how great a shape they might be in but in all actuality they are not. Others think that they are so smart ,and they probably are as far as book sence goes but it's a total different kind of smarts to traverse the back woods and mountains. It's each person's own responsibility to knnow their own limits and really investigate all the hazards and dangerous possibilities before stepping out on any kind of quest.
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
I love the varied content! It doesn't always have to be scary to be interesting. Between "this is monsters" and this channel you always put out good content! Keep it up my man!
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
I studied the clues for about a year and was about to head out when it was found. I'm pretty sure I know where it was but I think Jack is right it should remain secret. I'm pushing 60 now and personally I would much rather die on a treasure hunt than in a hospital bed.
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
I think what he did was really cool! None of us is responsible for people doing stupid things to risk their lives. A. He said it was not a dangerous trek, and urged people to prepare. B. He was an 80 year old man who stashed the box. And Mysteries and treasures are cool, not risk your life cook, but cool anyhow!
What a wonderfully sad exciting story. Really showed many sides of our many characters, some defective other's endearing. Thank you for another quality video Jiles!
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
Thank you for covering this my husband and I are from NM and often joke, speculated , and fantasized about going on this treasure hunt! Looking forward to more of the SW stories!
I love that a man got blamed for the deaths of the people dumb enough to do stupid things that caused their death after he said it’s not in a dangerous place. That’s on the dead people
Do you understand Darwinism? Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
Jiles, I forget if Somewhat Sinister is one or two years old-I'm guessing 1 1/2. However long, EVERY single time I hear and see the opening, I really feel like something sinister is afoot! EXCELLENT choice of opening.
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
i’m really glad to see so many comments agreeing that these deaths weren’t fenn’s fault, because honestly that consensus was reallyyyyy bothering me throughout this episode. the wilderness isn’t some easy task for just anyone to take on unprepared, and while i sympathize with the families of those that died out there, i also truly believe that their judgement has been blinded by grief (which i definitely don’t blame them for that, truly), or on the more cruel side of things (which i really hope isn’t the case), trying to take advantage of a family members death for financial gain. whatever the reason, fenn shouldn’t be blamed for other peoples choices that they made COMPLETELY on their own; they made the decision to go out, to take unnecessary risks, to leave unprepared, etc etc. fenn didn’t force anyone to go out there, not to mention he hid the treasure himself, meaning that it was safe for him-a very elderly man-to find. i feel like that right there is one of the strongest pieces of evidence that the people who unfortunately fell victim to the elements and nature were making unwise decisions in the pursuit of riches. being blinded by greed never ends well, and it’s definitely a tragedy that these five men fell victim to such an illusion. i can see that fenn’s intentions were pure and kindhearted, and he truly meant no harm, and he definitely never expected people to take deadly risks to find the treasure. i feel fenn’s only mistake was his faith in other people to be careful and wise in their decisions, and to not let the fantasy of riches obscure their judgement. i wish nothing but the best to all of the effected families, and i also hope that fenn didn’t let other people’s unnecessary and pointless need to blame someone for every tragedy effect his happiness and passion for adventure and archeology.
I’ve seen so much coverage of this over the years but didn’t know it was actually FOUND until your video! As usual, your content shed light on a long-running ‘internet sleuth’ turned real-life treasure hunting fiasco giving much needed closure… hopefully the obsessives unlike myself were already aware the ‘hunt’ was over, but I really appreciated finding out the complete end of this former mystery I’d seen so much speculative coverage on over the past decade. And good for the guy who did find it, both because medical school is bloody expensive and he can pay off the huge student loans, and finally putting to rest the accusations there never was treasure out there against Fenn and putting an end to the risks of the ‘hunt’ forever for both hunters and Fenn’s family. I honestly picked this Somewhere Sinister episode as a recap of a story I knew really well, then typical Jiles, you had to take it further than the preceding content I’d watched about the hunt and teach me something new. Which I’m hugely grateful for… just what I needed to give me a morning boost whist having my coffee. One of many reasons I love this channel and This is Monsters; you ALWAYS go above and beyond with your research and thus, over the years, you’ve earned my utmost respect as one of the most thorough and meticulous content creators whilst also imbuing every video with your unique personality and style which I love. So… many thanks to you not only for THIS video, but for all the great work you do!
You know, I’m guessing (especially considering his age) it wasn’t as difficult to find as people thought. They also all overlooked a very important detail the fella who found it did not. That it was in a place special to Fenn… I think that’s the most important detail of all. That and the fact that he was 80 at the time so why ppl thought he was doing acrobatics to hide this thing is beyond me. Those deaths are most certainly not his fault. Other people’s choices are his guilt? Bull. I’ll also, add that in his mind he collected all this stuff himself facing peril and dangers for years so why the hell would he make something supposed to be fun and a mysterious puzzle so easy?
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
Sure he hid some treasure, but he is not responsible for people killing themselves to find it. They made bad decisions, they were unprepared, THEY put themselves in danger. They didn't HAVE to go searching for the treasure, he didn't make them. That was a fun thing he did, and quite interesting, but he's not responsible for idiots who don't know it is cold in the mountains and rivers are faster than they look.
Actually he is responsible for the deaths. The box was found in 2013 and all the deaths happened afterwards while fenn was telling them the box hadn't been found yet.
Do you understand Darwinism? Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
Yea sad that people died but the accountability will always be on the people that went in search, this push to always shift blame for basically everything that goes wrong In someone’s life is rather ridiculous. Again, lives were lost and that is super sad but THEY went and searched, no one made them
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
I remember watching a video series on YT about people finding treasure, but I don't remember what it's called. Anyway, after watching several stories about how peoples' lives were either taken, or ruined, by finding treasure made me decide years ago that I wouldn't do it for anything. Most of the time, people just wasted their life in pursuit of it. Some people die in the process. I remember one guy who trespassed in a foreign country and was arrested and held for years in solitary confinement. Sometimes the government's takes it. Then, there are those who are just outright killed for finding it. By and large, nothing good comes of it.
I hate how people can never place the blame where it truly belongs. It's not Fenn's fault that some dumb asses went treasure hunting without the skills or equipment to do so. Fenn added wonder and mystery to life. People have been dying hunting down riches since the beginning of trade.
Our country was built by people who were in search of fortune in wild places, where death or complete failure was at least as likely as finding a fortune. That these people didn't undertake the search in a safe manner isn't the fault of the 80-year-old man who had hidden it. I just heard today that a person complained to a cruise line that they weren't warned they might get sunburn on the cruise. This is the type of person who would go unprepared on a search like that this one and it's no one's fault but their own.
Well i can not disagree with anyone's comment so I'll just ditto the comments. The only blame i can give him is that he is a fibber. But reality is we all think for ourselves. Money/gold is the root of all evil. Better to be broke alive than dead rich. Thank you Jiles ❤
No one forced these folks to go out to look for this treasure. They went by their own decision. I love how the relatives are blaming Fenn. Look, I feel sorry for the loss of your relatives, but the only blame should be directed at them, not Fenn. It's sad how some can't accept that these sad deaths were their relative's fault and no one else.
What about the fool's gold searchers on Oak Island? It's supposed curse has cost many their lives. People love a mystery, and when the reward is deemed worth the effort, the hunt for fool's gold is on.
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
What is the world coming too?? It is beyond me as to why people don't take responsibility for their on actions?? Blame blame blame anyone else but themselves!
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
To keep findings like this is not legal here in Sweden. My hubby found an old stone ax that was broken in half. He had to call some archaeologist in our toown about the finding. But they didn't care.😂 There is so many stone axes so that was a keep.
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
Grown ass people CHOOSING to take part in a very real treasure hunt, sadly not prepared and ended up in fatal accidents nevertheless they were willing to take the chance. Where were the families prior to these people who made the choice to go, do, and end up where they did? Breaking in that mans house, sueing that man, blaming him, accusing him of not telling the truth about the treasure being real! Sore loosers, finger pointers, greedy,and a nice rich man willing to share his wealth to who followed his clues and found his treasure making it theirs is what this entire story boils down to. By no means am i speaking negative of those who passed and theres nothing I wrote twds them other then grown ass people willing to take the chance but all the others are just that..the others^.
Excellent as always! I love this channel and This is Monsters. You do a phenomenal job. Your narration is excellent! (Plz don’t shake the screen like that again when you showed the River rafting. Please. It started to give me a headache. Just helping.)
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.- Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
All I can say is that no one held a gun to their heads…IMO you go in informed and aware.. and with all possible safety- to any endeavor. Their greed was responsible for their deaths.
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The fact that all these morons were out to sue Fenn for something their relative did voluntarily is so sad. Too many money grubbers out there. I’m glad Fenn didn’t fold like a card on his stance
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
Seems the only commenters who disagree with this sentiment are disgruntled searchers. Some future Darwin award winners right there.
@@nixm9093 I wasn't a participant.. I just don't care for bias stupidity from persons incapable of doing their homework.
Agreed… greed is a powerful thing, isn’t it? Absolutely not his fault, but hey, need to blame someone other than themselves and their crazy relatives and spouses 🙄
You know Fenn was a tarot card reader right? That's the kind of stupid fenn was.
You also know he made his living off robbing grave sites too right?
He emphasized so much about the danger and yet people were still going out of their way to put themselves in situations unnecessarily
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
Fenn said it was located where a 79-80 year old man could travel.
So that left all kinds of the dangerous things out. Period. Think about it. Seriously.
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That's so cool. Cartography.
I never even heard about that treasure.
It's fascinating. ✌️
I must say, I'm thankful to have come to the comments to find so many people thinking the same as myself. Why is it Fenn's fault for the decisions of others. Shouldn't they take some accountability for their own lack of planning, preparations, and skill level?
Yes Amen and so glad to see these comments!! They decided to go ffs!!!!
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
I don't find it sinister really. It is tragic that people took enormous risks and died.
1. Fenn wasn't young when he hid it.
2. That box must have weight a good deal and supply for the trip ie water, food etc.
3. He gave calculations of time and distance.
4. Weather.
You have to keep all this in mind as a base factor BEFORE starting to even think about the rest of the clues and plan a trip to find the "chest". Obviously many didn't and we will never know how many gave up and safely went home. Sadly at least 5 paid the price. So: don't blame him. They chose to go for it.
Exactly. Nobody forced them to go looking. They were all adults with minds of their own.
Sounds like a fun time and the risk/reward checks out.
It's kinda crazy how invested these people were but didn't rule out areas or hikes that a man his age wouldn't be able to access
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Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
I find the greed of the treasure seekers to be more sinister than anything that Fenn did. It gave people something to do for ten years until the treasure was found. The treasure seeking pastor who lost his life must have forgotten, "It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail." John 6:63.
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
Why are all these people mad at him? It's not his fault that people go look for this treasure. It's dangerous terrain, but like someone else pointed out, Forrest managed to carry the chest, hike to wherever he hid it, and get back home alive. Granted, he's got experience in hiking, walking that terrain, etc.. Then he gives clues to keep people out of dangerous places. If people are that greedy and obsessed with gold amd jewels, which would be great to find, that's a character flaw and not his problem. He even told people that it wasn't in a dangerous place. So why do people keep doing stupid s##t? Maybe they think that he's lying to keep people from finding it? Conspiracy theories, folks. The more I hear, the more it sounds like sour grapes because they didn't find it. Im glad someone found it.Good Lord, what a mess this turned into because of greed and obsession.RIP to all the men who died. Congratulations to the man who found it, and as always... GREAT story!! I read about it a looong time ago and it was really cool to hear the whole story and all of the details that you're so good about researching and getting to us!
Because people want to blame others for their own self-induced death
@@UraTrowelie absolutely. Good answer, well put.
@juliestrickland7754 Hey, thanks! Make this Wednesday a great day!
Yes why take responsibility for your own actions? Every car crash is the fault of Henry Ford.
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
I truly am sorry for all that lost their lives chasing after this treasure. However, I don’t think it’s the old man’s fault. Before I embarked on searching for it, I would have considered it was stashed by an old man so it wouldn’t be somewhere too crazy. Even though it was laced with tragedy, the story itself was pretty cool. This is something people usually only wish and dream would happen in their lifetime.
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
I think people TOTALLY missed Fenn's real treasure.... I think he was trying to get people off their couches, and get them into the great outdoors! You can't live your life through the screen of a cell phone.....
Honestly, it's ridiculous to think that this man was blamed for "fatalities which were caused by his choices." No. The fatalities, unfortunately, occurred due to overzealous searchers blindly embarking on a quest that took them into unknown territory where they were absolutely unprepared for the terrain/conditions. Never heard so much nonsense, in my life!
OMG, I was going to say same damn thing!! Maybe morally, he could have stopped it IF he thought he should or wanted to. But, he didn't make them go out there or go unprepared or stick a gun to their head!! These guys knew the risks, and he gave them hints not to go in dangerous places or where it would not be. Sheesh!!!
Same here. People are accountable for their own decisions, including the tragic ones.
I agree with you but, it’s still very sad for the families… imagine your brother going out and never coming back. But no, it was certainly not Fenn’s fault. Also, I believe these ppl were well prepared. I live in Colorado. One look at the mountains and you know you have to be damn sure you know what you’re doing before going into them. They just searched in ridiculous places bc they thought an 80 yr old man was an acrobat.
Forrest fenn was sending people on a wild goose chase because the box was found in 2013. So he was sending people out telling them it was there when it wasn't any longer. Forrest fenn is directly responsible for all of the deaths.
@@GetCraftyLemons 👍Cheers from Oz! 😊
I understand that the grieving families were looking for someone to blame, but I don't believe any of this is Forrest's fault. A lot of the people who died chose to ignore the warnings and precautions given to them. Forrest wasn't young when he hid this treasure, and it was probably hidden somewhere that he frequented regularly. The people who chose to white water raft, hike at dangerous elevations, and stay out in the cold without proper gear are the ones who should be "blamed", not Forrest. I put blamed in quotations because it seemed like these people were doing what they loved (despite some of their poor choices), and when it comes to these types of accidents, sometimes there just isn't anyone to blame.
Hearing this story, it sounds like Forrest wanted to inspire a new generation to explore and think and use their imaginations to discover new things about the world around them. He wanted to give others the same passion he had for the beauty and wonder that can be found everywhere, even our own backyards. I sympathize with those who lost their loved ones, as well as those who lost their lives. But I genuinely think Forrest did more good than harm. I'm sure he inspired many people to get out of their homes and drink in their surroundings in a new way, and that's never a bad thing,
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
What an amazing story! I'd never heard it before now. Thank you, Jiles!
It's a fake story. Forrest fenn was a class clown looking for attention.
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
"Was it all worth it?"
All those people made the decision that it was worth it to risk their lives to search for the treasure. No one else made that decision for them. They were responsible for their own actions.
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
I love this man and belive he only ment good . And people blaming him for his choices. But not the choices of the hunters. Only the hunters had something to gain.
I absolutely agree with you!
You can't blame the man for making a fun treasure hunt. *Greed* is what killed the "hunters" not Forrest! If they would've hunted in groups and shared their findings then there would've been far less *accidental* deaths.
It's not Fenns fault that theses people were unprepared for the terrain they were hunting in.
@@marymoor9293 yep, that's like blaming the Nationals Parks for hikers that go hiking unprepared, no skills and at their own risks. It's not the parks fault that the hikers made the wrong choices and did not take the proper precautions or safety measures.
Mister Gold is a revolver in most people's head.
Nothing sinister in my mind. We all should take responsibility for our own actions. No one was forced to go look for treasure. Some went and looked for it mearly as an adventure but others out of greed and even dispair. But whatever the reason they went it was their own choice. Most people will always think how great a shape they might be in but in all actuality they are not. Others think that they are so smart ,and they probably are as far as book sence goes but it's a total different kind of smarts to traverse the back woods and mountains. It's each person's own responsibility to knnow their own limits and really investigate all the hazards and dangerous possibilities before stepping out on any kind of quest.
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Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
Exactly
I love the varied content! It doesn't always have to be scary to be interesting. Between "this is monsters" and this channel you always put out good content! Keep it up my man!
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
I studied the clues for about a year and was about to head out when it was found. I'm pretty sure I know where it was but I think Jack is right it should remain secret. I'm pushing 60 now and personally I would much rather die on a treasure hunt than in a hospital bed.
Sounds like the old fable about the elusive Pot of Gold at the end of a 🌈 to me .. Great story and narration. 🇬🇧👍🏻
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
Nobody should be giving this guy shit
These were grown adults who made their own decisions
They knew the risks
I really cannot see hoe these people's choices and mistakes were in any way Fenn's fault whatsoever.
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
I searched for his Treasure a few times.🙂
Treasure hunters and explorers die, it's a reality that they must prepare for .
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
Forest is not responsible for any of those deaths. People make their own choices. He just provided an opportunity.
I feel bad for the families of those who lost their lives. But with that being said it just goes to show you what greed will do to a person.
This is the same as being mad at Marlboro for smokers getting lung cancer, or Ford because people die in auto accidents. Thats stupid
It all comes down to personal choices. No one was forced to go out treasure hunting.
RIP Mr Forrest😢
Just what I needed before bed 😊 thank you
Don’t forget about blue light.
Same here.
What part of the world are you? Its like 4am where im at !!
@@aristocratmoore2927 Washington State, USA it's 1:07 am. Where are you?
@@snowlizard44 I'm in TOBAGO in the Caribbean. Its 5:21am.👍🏿 thanks for replying.
I think what he did was really cool! None of us is responsible for people doing stupid things to risk their lives. A. He said it was not a dangerous trek, and urged people to prepare. B. He was an 80 year old man who stashed the box. And Mysteries and treasures are cool, not risk your life cook, but cool anyhow!
What a wonderfully sad exciting story. Really showed many sides of our many characters, some defective other's endearing. Thank you for another quality video Jiles!
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
How ridiculous to blame the guy for creating a treasure hunt. With clear warnings to search safely. Wow.
Thank you for covering this my husband and I are from NM and often joke, speculated , and fantasized about going on this treasure hunt! Looking forward to more of the SW stories!
I knew this charismatic, mercenary, immensely gifted man. He was a flawed conjurer of sorts, maker of big bucks and bad karma. R.I.P.
Interesting story about natural selection.
I love that a man got blamed for the deaths of the people dumb enough to do stupid things that caused their death after he said it’s not in a dangerous place. That’s on the dead people
Sweet.. Woke up just in time ♥️♥️
At 13:40 in the photo, what’s on his waste? Garlic?
This episode should be called Darwin Award Winners. Nothing sinister or wrong about what Fenn did.
Do you understand Darwinism?
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
I always hit like even before I watch... because I'm so confident that I am going to thoroughly enjoy said video...I've never been let down.
Thanks so much!
Jiles, I forget if Somewhat Sinister is one or two years old-I'm guessing 1 1/2. However long, EVERY single time I hear and see the opening, I really feel like something sinister is afoot! EXCELLENT choice of opening.
That background in your Introduction 💯💯💯💯💯👊🏿NICE ,DIFFERENT AND IT FITS!
Enjoy your shows.
I agree with the other commenters, people were greedy and paid the price for that greed. People should take responsibility for their actions.
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
Congrats to Jack! Very interesting story.
i’m really glad to see so many comments agreeing that these deaths weren’t fenn’s fault, because honestly that consensus was reallyyyyy bothering me throughout this episode. the wilderness isn’t some easy task for just anyone to take on unprepared, and while i sympathize with the families of those that died out there, i also truly believe that their judgement has been blinded by grief (which i definitely don’t blame them for that, truly), or on the more cruel side of things (which i really hope isn’t the case), trying to take advantage of a family members death for financial gain. whatever the reason, fenn shouldn’t be blamed for other peoples choices that they made COMPLETELY on their own; they made the decision to go out, to take unnecessary risks, to leave unprepared, etc etc. fenn didn’t force anyone to go out there, not to mention he hid the treasure himself, meaning that it was safe for him-a very elderly man-to find. i feel like that right there is one of the strongest pieces of evidence that the people who unfortunately fell victim to the elements and nature were making unwise decisions in the pursuit of riches. being blinded by greed never ends well, and it’s definitely a tragedy that these five men fell victim to such an illusion. i can see that fenn’s intentions were pure and kindhearted, and he truly meant no harm, and he definitely never expected people to take deadly risks to find the treasure. i feel fenn’s only mistake was his faith in other people to be careful and wise in their decisions, and to not let the fantasy of riches obscure their judgement. i wish nothing but the best to all of the effected families, and i also hope that fenn didn’t let other people’s unnecessary and pointless need to blame someone for every tragedy effect his happiness and passion for adventure and archeology.
I really enjoyed this one. What a smart & interesting man.
I’ve seen so much coverage of this over the years but didn’t know it was actually FOUND until your video! As usual, your content shed light on a long-running ‘internet sleuth’ turned real-life treasure hunting fiasco giving much needed closure… hopefully the obsessives unlike myself were already aware the ‘hunt’ was over, but I really appreciated finding out the complete end of this former mystery I’d seen so much speculative coverage on over the past decade. And good for the guy who did find it, both because medical school is bloody expensive and he can pay off the huge student loans, and finally putting to rest the accusations there never was treasure out there against Fenn and putting an end to the risks of the ‘hunt’ forever for both hunters and Fenn’s family.
I honestly picked this Somewhere Sinister episode as a recap of a story I knew really well, then typical Jiles, you had to take it further than the preceding content I’d watched about the hunt and teach me something new. Which I’m hugely grateful for… just what I needed to give me a morning boost whist having my coffee. One of many reasons I love this channel and This is Monsters; you ALWAYS go above and beyond with your research and thus, over the years, you’ve earned my utmost respect as one of the most thorough and meticulous content creators whilst also imbuing every video with your unique personality and style which I love.
So… many thanks to you not only for THIS video, but for all the great work you do!
I fkn love this series. I wish the Pacific Northwest season was longer. Being born and raised in Washington there’s so many absolutely insane stories.
Very interesting story!
You know, I’m guessing (especially considering his age) it wasn’t as difficult to find as people thought. They also all overlooked a very important detail the fella who found it did not. That it was in a place special to Fenn… I think that’s the most important detail of all. That and the fact that he was 80 at the time so why ppl thought he was doing acrobatics to hide this thing is beyond me. Those deaths are most certainly not his fault. Other people’s choices are his guilt? Bull. I’ll also, add that in his mind he collected all this stuff himself facing peril and dangers for years so why the hell would he make something supposed to be fun and a mysterious puzzle so easy?
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
Best Somewhere Sinister yet!
I don't believe that this author should be to blame in any capacity.
Excellent video!
Where warm water halt browns canyon warm springs you can only dip in it
Thank You
To heck with the gold, I would want to check out all those books! I bet there are some real treasures there! 😃
I just began watching your other channel.
Expectations? None needed as you're great and to the point 👉
Thank you for your work to inform
Why did I have to listen to that into like 5 times to understand what you we saying??!! Part of what I 💜 about you Jiles, and your/this channel!!!! 😊
Great Story, Thank You 😊🇮🇪🍀
You should cover the Oak Island treasure, pre-hit tv show lol there's some spooky tales there!
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
Sure he hid some treasure, but he is not responsible for people killing themselves to find it. They made bad decisions, they were unprepared, THEY put themselves in danger. They didn't HAVE to go searching for the treasure, he didn't make them. That was a fun thing he did, and quite interesting, but he's not responsible for idiots who don't know it is cold in the mountains and rivers are faster than they look.
Actually he is responsible for the deaths. The box was found in 2013 and all the deaths happened afterwards while fenn was telling them the box hadn't been found yet.
Nice to see some Darwin awards being handed out 😉
Do you understand Darwinism?
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
Somewhere in the ether, Edgar Allen Poe is enthusiastically shaking Fenn's hand & congratulating him on a "mystery well played."
Great story! I wonder if he was directing us to the pirates booty at TJs truly a snack treasure!😂
Yea sad that people died but the accountability will always be on the people that went in search, this push to always shift blame for basically everything that goes wrong In someone’s life is rather ridiculous. Again, lives were lost and that is super sad but THEY went and searched, no one made them
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
I remember watching a video series on YT about people finding treasure, but I don't remember what it's called. Anyway, after watching several stories about how peoples' lives were either taken, or ruined, by finding treasure made me decide years ago that I wouldn't do it for anything. Most of the time, people just wasted their life in pursuit of it. Some people die in the process. I remember one guy who trespassed in a foreign country and was arrested and held for years in solitary confinement. Sometimes the government's takes it. Then, there are those who are just outright killed for finding it. By and large, nothing good comes of it.
Excellent excellent video I hate the compliment on it cuz it's so violent but you get such a great great speech
They were grown ass adults, it's not his fault they didn't prepare
Why am I not suprised that only male hunters died?
Good morning 🌞
I hate how people can never place the blame where it truly belongs. It's not Fenn's fault that some dumb asses went treasure hunting without the skills or equipment to do so. Fenn added wonder and mystery to life. People have been dying hunting down riches since the beginning of trade.
Our country was built by people who were in search of fortune in wild places, where death or complete failure was at least as likely as finding a fortune. That these people didn't undertake the search in a safe manner isn't the fault of the 80-year-old man who had hidden it. I just heard today that a person complained to a cruise line that they weren't warned they might get sunburn on the cruise. This is the type of person who would go unprepared on a search like that this one and it's no one's fault but their own.
Falling down a 500 ft slope is anything but a 'quick death'. It can be one of the slowest, most gruesome ways to die. Depends on the slope.
Well i can not disagree with anyone's comment so I'll just ditto the comments. The only blame i can give him is that he is a fibber. But reality is we all think for ourselves. Money/gold is the root of all evil. Better to be broke alive than dead rich.
Thank you Jiles ❤
Oh wow.... I had never heard of this!!!! Extremely interesting!!! Thank you for another awesome video! #StayEpic
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worth it honestly, id do it! hide some gold and im on my way
No one forced these folks to go out to look for this treasure. They went by their own decision. I love how the relatives are blaming Fenn. Look, I feel sorry for the loss of your relatives, but the only blame should be directed at them, not Fenn. It's sad how some can't accept that these sad deaths were their relative's fault and no one else.
Love this blokes voice and his coverage
Ayooo let's gooo!!
Is this where geocaching started?
Honestly familiarized story that I love
go ambition and sorry for the loses but they lived
I heard about this story. Fenn was wicked
What makes you think Forrest Fenn was wicked?
@@jacksquat4140 If i have to explain it you mustn’t have listened to the story or you have problems 😃
@@lindarackstraw7711: Oh, I see.
What about the fool's gold searchers on Oak Island? It's supposed curse has cost many their lives. People love a mystery, and when the reward is deemed worth the effort, the hunt for fool's gold is on.
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
The fault was their own. Greed.
I wish we knew the answer to the riddle. 😢
This story sounds so much more interesting when you hum or play the Indiana Jones theme music during this story. 😃
I couldn’t get the rights.
@@SomewhereSinister that's ok. I can simply play the theme song in my head as I listen to this story. 😃
Wow! I hate that those people died but they should have known it wasn’t going to be a walk in the park. I feel sorry for their families.
What is the world coming too?? It is beyond me as to why people don't take responsibility for their on actions?? Blame blame blame anyone else but themselves!
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
People have to take personal responsibility for their own actions.
If things don’t go someone’s way, they immediately start pointing the finger.
"No good deed goes unpunished."
My mans deadass went "You want my treasure? You can have it! I left it all in one place! Now you just have to find it!"
Fuckin Gold Roger ass
This is literally the storyline plot from an episode of the original Magnum P.I. show starring Tom Selleck.
To keep findings like this is not legal here in Sweden. My hubby found an old stone ax that was broken in half. He had to call some archaeologist in our toown about the finding.
But they didn't care.😂 There is so many stone axes so that was a keep.
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
The people who died did it to themselves. They are accountable for their own actions.
somehow I missed that it was found. Also, I swore he buried that stuff in like 2008? idk
So 5 people ended up dying and the only boon was one person could pay off their student debt.
Grown ass people CHOOSING to take part in a very real treasure hunt, sadly not prepared and ended up in fatal accidents nevertheless they were willing to take the chance. Where were the families prior to these people who made the choice to go, do, and end up where they did? Breaking in that mans house, sueing that man, blaming him, accusing him of not telling the truth about the treasure being real! Sore loosers, finger pointers, greedy,and a nice rich man willing to share his wealth to who followed his clues and found his treasure making it theirs is what this entire story boils down to. By no means am i speaking negative of those who passed and theres nothing I wrote twds them other then grown ass people willing to take the chance but all the others are just that..the others^.
Excellent as always! I love this channel and This is Monsters. You do a phenomenal job. Your narration is excellent! (Plz don’t shake the screen like that again when you showed the River rafting. Please. It started to give me a headache. Just helping.)
Forrests box was found in 2013 so because he was telling people it hadn't been found, he is directly responsible for the deaths and injuries -regardless of stupid people.-
Forrest fenn lied and because of these lies, these stupid people died. It is the direct result of Forrest fenns lies.
All I can say is that no one held a gun to their heads…IMO you go in informed and aware.. and with all possible safety- to any endeavor. Their greed was responsible for their deaths.
You know what, it's got to be the taco bell. I ate taco bell dollar menu items twice in 3 days and MY GUTS ARE KILLING ME
OH DEAR LORD
The Pastor didn't seem to have read the bit about the dangers of greed