Acid Techno Trance, Night Tremors back from the 90s

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  • Опубликовано: 12 янв 2025

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  • @russianvoodoo
    @russianvoodoo Год назад +9

    Techno Viking just woke up from his eternal sleep.

  • @Tyler-oz8xf
    @Tyler-oz8xf Год назад +32

    pls make more 90s trance!

  • @EDMclassics
    @EDMclassics Год назад +6

    You are 100% correct in that back in the day trance DJ's never pigeon holed themselves to 100% trance. IE Paul van Dyk is remembered for Trance but in the 90's also mixed in tracks that are classified as Techno, Hard Trance and Hard House. This kind of mixing pot is really missing when people today mix a classic set. I'm excited to hear today's DJ's are being creative and bringing this back.
    And please do make more classic sounding tracks like this. Here I am looking on Discogs for it on vinyl 😆

  • @CeciliaCagasan
    @CeciliaCagasan Месяц назад

    4:04 Now That's How Gigi'D Agostino Make Their Kicks! (Without The Reverb) TYSM As A Filipino Producer!

  • @Daniel-ot8gg
    @Daniel-ot8gg Год назад +6

    I am really into that old trance sound (91-94) and this song ties that early trance feeling very nicely to a more modern sound. Impressive!

  • @SlaserX
    @SlaserX Год назад +5

    Man I am always so excited to see an @Estuera video. Not only is the music great, but you're using real synths to make them. Keep it up and I'll be here!

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад

      Thanks! My pleasure :)

  • @Scrumblehead
    @Scrumblehead Год назад +10

    I realy feel like I‘m back in the 90‘s when I‘m listening to this. Realy cool Track!!!

  • @atp19xx
    @atp19xx 8 месяцев назад +1

    Back in the mid to late 90's there was this one radio channel in my country playing Techno Trance Acid DnB Jungle etc in their 8-hour night segment from 10pm to 6am or something like that and this track is good example of what type of music they played. I was a wee teen back then and had that channel on every night to just fall asleep to. Good times...

  • @HenningUhle
    @HenningUhle Год назад +3

    Dude, this was worth the wait! Holy moly, what an awesome track. So much going on in this track, all those beeps and bobs and these strong "7 days and one week" vibes. It's great what you did here.
    Control the night!
    Control the night!
    Control the night!
    Control the night!
    Control the night!
    Control the night!
    Control the night!
    Control the night!
    Well done!

  • @RunWolfmanRun
    @RunWolfmanRun Год назад +2

    lol I was on the same tip, Melodic Techno just sounds like formative late-90's Trance to me; Just neat how some elements just come back around as something new again, given enough time

  • @pontuslindberg
    @pontuslindberg Год назад +1

    I love this, and instantly recognized the riff sound from "Thunderground"... then read through the comments and learned about "Hit hard".
    Really enjoy this channel, thanks man!

  • @leoslow1112
    @leoslow1112 Год назад +4

    thanks super for insight. I am 51 so I still can remember.... good work👑

  • @RNIndustrialmusic
    @RNIndustrialmusic Год назад +9

    i will absolutely try this in my set tonight. thats a f-ing banger🤘🤘🤘

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад +7

      Thanks!
      And if you play it film and share it if you can 😁 love to see that

    • @RNIndustrialmusic
      @RNIndustrialmusic Год назад +2

      i hope i remember to make a video 😄

  • @manikcz2879
    @manikcz2879 Год назад +1

    Hi friend. Dont be sad of toxic people! Thank you for givvin me the oldskool vibe in these days. Best sounds ever made! 90s electronic music will never repeat again. 😢 But, a lot of prosucers trying to go back in time and thats realy good view for the future :) 🎉 Love your channel!❤

  • @MarkRidesCoasters
    @MarkRidesCoasters Год назад +6

    Hey Jonas! Just wanted to say that it's an HONOR to be on the same album (ISOS19) as you! Track 4 of Mix 3 (the one you're also on) is mine. Nice video again too, love the new release.

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад +3

      Thanks! And glad to have you on board of the isos boat 😉

  • @NickyDekker89
    @NickyDekker89 Год назад +1

    Awesome tune :)

  • @stefanhollesch3056
    @stefanhollesch3056 Год назад +9

    Excellent work, and thank you for this interesting video 👍🙂. BTW, I remember your song "Silent waves" (from 2006 if I remember right), stored in my "Trance Very Best" folder 🙂

  • @Kosmokatze_de
    @Kosmokatze_de Год назад +2

    kicks me straight back to the clubs of the 90s 😄✌

  • @EugeneBrosario
    @EugeneBrosario Год назад +1

    hey i love your videos man, could make a video on early 00's breakcore? it's my favorite genre and i'd love to see you recreate it

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад

      Thanks! And I'll take it into consideration

  • @Dr-Zed
    @Dr-Zed Год назад

    I love the final track!

  • @Sonikbytes
    @Sonikbytes Год назад

    took me back to 90's with this early trance/techno style and haunting strings vibe

  • @maus3454
    @maus3454 Год назад +1

    Jonas Steur. Good to have you back again 👍. BTW: any idea where the audio glitches come from in your posting?

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад

      Thanks!
      The glitches were caused by one of the M1 audio channels not connecting fully because of oxidation of a preamp potentiometer.

  • @WilliWerkel
    @WilliWerkel Год назад +1

    Damn the pad / strings are sounding so good.

  • @tackac7815
    @tackac7815 Год назад +1

    That cs1x sound gives me goosebumps. Love it. Interesting how you modified the the drum with Valhalla

  • @RUNCNC
    @RUNCNC Год назад +1

    I like those acid lines, but best ingredient is that pitch bended m1 synth! I would like to see, how you arranged that track. Anyway - thank you for your content. It is always very educating.

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад +1

      That M1 patch is one of my secret weapons indeed 😁

  • @B0K1T0
    @B0K1T0 Год назад

    Very nice track! Love the acid touch ♥
    16:52 Haha this beat makes me think of Dave the Drummer - One night in Hackney

  • @ArmoredMeat
    @ArmoredMeat Год назад

    As soon as I heard the vocal sample I knew where it came from. Aphrodite is my favorite jungle producer/dj. Awesome track. Instantly transports me to the late 90s. ❤

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад +1

      Yes, it really brings a vibe

  • @pitsnake
    @pitsnake Год назад +1

    It is also inspired from Nalin inc - Planet Violet. Greetings from belgium, I do similar in progressive slower beat but miss that 90’s, access virus, juno 106, sh-101, tr-909 and jv-1080 etc…

  • @French_Canadian_Pea_Soup
    @French_Canadian_Pea_Soup Год назад +2

    Yeah can't wait!

  • @damiensargeant2432
    @damiensargeant2432 9 месяцев назад

    I was listening to hard techno in the 1990s, but I love this now you’re inspiring ☑️

  • @mellowsonic
    @mellowsonic Год назад

    Great track! 90s sounds is the best :)

  • @rcs2003
    @rcs2003 Год назад +1

    The build smells like Kai Tracid :)

  • @Breingan1
    @Breingan1 Год назад +2

    This is great 👍, always enjoy when you have a new upload. I know you have previously done a happy hardcore video but would you consider doing one in the style of 90's UK happy hardcore? Hixxy, Dougal, Vinylgroover etc?

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад +2

      Thanks!
      I did a 90s 'rave' video as well 2 years ago that touches the uk happy hardcore sound a bit, it was more the early Prodigy kind of thing though.

  • @atomicasounds
    @atomicasounds Год назад

    Very wise words with regards to breaking down the boundaries within different genres & sub-genres. After growing up raving in the early 90's, I feel DJ sets were much more open to explore different types of music back then, the DJ was allowed more freedom to explore a wider musical experience and providing a more diverse journey and everyone gained from that. I'm glad it's returning to those happy times! As always loved the video, keep up the great work! =)

  • @Reg-Edit
    @Reg-Edit Год назад +1

    I still have my access virus Ti 🙌
    so it’s a good time for me
    with the trance revival
    🙌😎
    😂

  • @Moruial
    @Moruial Год назад +5

    Very good track and tutorial, really enjoyed it, well done Jonas!

  • @AlexIsASeraphim
    @AlexIsASeraphim Год назад

    Thanx Jonas. This tutorial really helps. You show me the possibilities. Great track too.

  • @twoscoops2
    @twoscoops2 Год назад +1

    Great track and video as always, Thanks Jonas!

  • @roblow8126
    @roblow8126 Год назад +1

    Awesome tune. Love your style, you need to more videos!!

  • @treintaceroseis3081
    @treintaceroseis3081 Год назад

    An excellent track, which took me back to those years. I hope that one day you can make a video about Spacesynth, of which I remember listening to some tracks when I was 7 or 8 years old on an FM radio station.

  • @DJCJ999
    @DJCJ999 Год назад

    Timeless classic.... frankly this is my jam... the atmosphere/soundscape of the 90's with movie samples and of course the 303!
    I like it clean like this.... it's not over complicated sounding... some modern tracks have everything including the kitchen sink in them :/
    Hey Jonas.. Can you tell me about your DAW choice? Your experience with other DAW's and why you use Cubase?

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад +1

      Thanks :)
      About why Cubase:
      When I started out in the late 90s that's what the people I worked with were using and showed me how to work with it. My first version was midi but soon after I upgraded to the first Cubase VST version.
      I did use Ableton as well from time to time for dj mixes but my main DAW always has been Cubase, it can do everything I want and does it very well.

    • @pavelmolchanov7156
      @pavelmolchanov7156 Год назад

      ​@@EstueraCubase forever !!!! Best tracks were made before Ableton :)

  • @muzikxpress
    @muzikxpress Год назад

    Nice one! What a track!!!

  • @markorichardson5009
    @markorichardson5009 Год назад +1

    This was a great track, really liked it, well done, it hits all the right spots , excellent 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @shemleer
    @shemleer 8 месяцев назад

    CS1x....! hermoso!

  • @c1966m
    @c1966m Год назад

    great track, love the pads, good to see you back on here to 😃

  • @1ytcommenter
    @1ytcommenter Год назад

    finally a new video. like. 😀👍

  • @joeyderond7
    @joeyderond7 Год назад +1

    Lekker bezig Jonas👍 Zeker de vibe uit de vroegere jaren, waarin alles inderdaad nog niet zijn eigen (kleine) hokje had😄

  • @Dun3Cat
    @Dun3Cat Год назад

    awesome track!

  • @glaucotvieira
    @glaucotvieira Год назад

    Really luv your videos! Keep going!

  • @darkmann12
    @darkmann12 Год назад

    Dang dude this is dope!

  • @everx7
    @everx7 Год назад

    i like the combo of hard and melodic :), almost in any genre, but this is awesome, must say, its the right kinda music for me

  • @SaundiHemmo
    @SaundiHemmo Год назад

    l'esperanza...

  • @maxim.b
    @maxim.b Год назад

    Really nice track, it hits so many different 90s trance vibes and they all work together nicely in this super immersive journey through nostalgia. I'm not sure if the other reference was meant to be Straydog - Mirror but with the sine and the very emotional chords it reminded me a lot of it. Either way, very nice work, so many small elements and details (flanger on the ride) to enjoy

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад

      Thanks!
      That wasn't the other reference though but I see how you arrived at it.

  • @danm3570
    @danm3570 Год назад

    dude the alien probe in the star trek 4 movie would like the space whale call 😁

  • @AlphaNovaOfficial
    @AlphaNovaOfficial Год назад +1

    Instant classic song, you're truly my inspiration and a lot of the music I've made recently has been pushed forward by lessons you instilled. Much love

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад +1

      Thanks and love that my videos have been inspiring to you!

  • @nohman2012
    @nohman2012 Год назад

    Really great track!

  • @Clownie_Smiles
    @Clownie_Smiles Год назад

    I would love to see a video about the pumping house genre, or more specifically the Russian hardbass.

  • @Cap10NRGMusic
    @Cap10NRGMusic Год назад

    @Estuera Jonas - I love this track you did an excellent job as always man. I love this track

  • @ysteinsondrup9394
    @ysteinsondrup9394 Год назад +1

    Love your videos ❤

  • @tomc7299
    @tomc7299 Год назад

    Always awesome when u do a vid 👍👍👍

  • @Banglish123
    @Banglish123 Год назад

    What a BANGER🎉🎉😊

  • @hansleonhardt7653
    @hansleonhardt7653 Год назад

    Great...

  • @DJVasC
    @DJVasC Год назад +1

    Great to see how you build up the track and you share it. Also nice to see how the old guys CS1x and M1 are still really usable when applying (I suppose) a great reverb on it (Valhalla Vintage Reverb?).

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад +2

      Valhalla Vintage Verb is pure magic on those old synths.
      Although it was barely used on the M1. It really sounds like that out of the box.

  • @djdubs8026
    @djdubs8026 Год назад

    Yo bro, would you ever consider doing a 90's Makina tutorial? That stuff was way ahead of its time!

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад

      It gets asked quite often.
      The thing is that I never heard of that name before I started doing these vids. It was a big thing but I wasn't aware of it here in Belgium.
      I will look into it. No promises though it will be a video just yet.

  • @jamienoble631
    @jamienoble631 Год назад +4

    Not a fan of the track but a cool tutorial. I hope you do a tutorial on how to make a classic Esutera / Steur track. Something that sounds like it was made in 04-06

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад +2

      Might be revisiting that at some point as well.

  • @cl1xor
    @cl1xor Год назад +2

    Nice work! Don’t want to start hard vs software discussion 😅 but nice to see you used a lot of your old stuff. Both can work really well (see the 303) but just do with what you have works a lot better than scrolling through 5000 diva presets or 100 kontakt libraries.

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад +1

      Both works fine, same results in the end. But its just a lot of fun to get hands on with the synths.

  • @mykynesmusicofficial
    @mykynesmusicofficial Год назад

    Great sounding track, nice to see how it came together. In the interview for MuzikXpress you did mention if people had suggestions for other genres to cover in your recreation videos. Here are some suggestions (I am a huge trance fan, apologies for all the trancey subgenres).
    Here's a few suggestions of subgenres you could still cover from the 90's:
    - Clubhouse / Clubtrance (similar to Klubbheads, Southside Spinners, DJ Jean & Peran, Club Caviar etc.)
    - Techtrance (similar to E. Craig or Marco V.)
    - Hardtrance (similar to Dumonde, early Cosmic Gate, Alphazone)
    - Acid Trance (similar to Kai Tracid, Warmduscher)
    - Piano World Music House Crossover (no name for the genre but similar to Dario G. - Sunchyme, Wes - Alane, Syndrome - Heyo (Nana Ae)
    - Dark Techno (similar to early works of Yves DeRuyter and Bonzai)
    - Synth Pop (similar to William Orbit, for example his work for Madonna and All Saints)
    - New Age (similar to Era, Adiemus, Enigma, Deep Forest)
    - Downtempo (simliar to Moby's '18' album)
    Hope it helps providing you some ideas. I really enjoy these recreation videos, very insightful, even (or maybe especially) the ones about genres I do not have many knowledge of. Keep up the good work Jonas!

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад

      Thanks for the compliments and the suggestions!

  • @FHB512
    @FHB512 Год назад

    The voices remind me of this track: Argonaut - Your Body Is A Temple. Same samples? Great production as always. Also, you should make a video about tribal percussion used in the old days of trance. Many thanks!!!

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад +1

      Thanks :)
      Not the same samples but the same kind of deliberate 'lofi' processing.
      I really love that Argonaut track btw.

  • @miscellaneous1276
    @miscellaneous1276 11 месяцев назад

    You should make oldschool late 90s/early 2000s psytrance like 1200 micrograms or Hallucinogen.

  • @stockwellengineeringhints3527
    @stockwellengineeringhints3527 Год назад +1

    Fantastic track. It's quite amazing how little elements you need to make a full track, although I guess I'm always a fan of minimal arrangements. I played in brass bands for many years and the arrangements always tend to be pretty maximal. Perhaps brass players don't like counting bars?

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад

      Less is more is what I always say.

  • @ArnoLouwagie
    @ArnoLouwagie Год назад

    machtiggg

  • @Streck0_909
    @Streck0_909 5 месяцев назад +1

    Quick question: Around 5:10 you mentioned eq'ing the "thunder reverb" on the kick. Did you just use the eq section of the Valhalla plugin or was there an extra eq involved?

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  5 месяцев назад +1

      I used the built in eq of the cubase fx track.

    • @Streck0_909
      @Streck0_909 5 месяцев назад

      @@Estuera Ah, now I see it! Didn't realize that the cubase eq visible at 4:39 was doing this job. Thanks for pointing it out, Jonas! This was one of those kick sounds which I knew must have something to do with reverb, but I could never get it quite right.

  • @joni.sirvio8867
    @joni.sirvio8867 Год назад +1

    long intro about "dont be sub genre naxxi" but this is late 90's early 00's techno trance... or so germans called it. I got all dem DJ Gary D d-techno cd's back then

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад +1

      Haha, well I'll allow it 😉 Just a name 🤷‍♂️😁

    • @joni.sirvio8867
      @joni.sirvio8867 Год назад +2

      @@Estuera i have now watched all your vids and its refreshing to see guy who knows (sub sub) genres. Now everybody just calls whatever as EDM and i hate it.

    • @dlog
      @dlog Год назад

      ​@@joni.sirvio8867understandable. However EDM is an umbrella term in the likeness of rock, metal, rap and jazz are, to name a few. EDM doesn't strictly mean 2010 Avicii Big Room House. Even though some folks are trying to build that narrative due to the term EDM emerging when Big Room House got popular. Calling whatever EDM is the same as calling [acid jazz, smooth jazz, avant-garde and swing] jazz. Ps. Olin genreniuhottaja joskus, ku siitä pääsee niin alkaa elämä maistua paremmalta! 😀

  • @tehedx
    @tehedx Год назад

    Is it a spinning up jet engine sample that you use for transitions in the track?
    Very nice explanation of the build and as always you manage to make nostalgic feelings!

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад

      Good question. Its a sample from the Halion 7 library but do not recall the name. Sounds a bit like an engine indeed.

  • @budgetgitarr5351
    @budgetgitarr5351 Год назад

    Didn't know you released music under your own name. I will definetly check it out! I noted that you keep a Microfreak on your desk and is curious about what you use it for and if you have any tips on how to get a good sound out of it. Keep up the good work, your videos are really instructive.

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад

      Been doing that for ages but its been a while 😉
      I use the Microfreak for many things. Its also in this track (the reversing sound)
      Love the bit dirty and unique sound it has.

  • @dennisf1973
    @dennisf1973 Год назад

    Nice vibe Jonas!
    Je hebt gelijk, belachelijk al die sub-styles! Bijna net zoveel als er synthezisers/vst's zijn...
    Ik zag door de bomen het bos niet meer.. 😅
    Soms is gaan maken wat je leuk vind en gewoon doen beter!
    Denk dat het nu weer prima kan ook. Heel mijn leven al gek van synthesizers en nooit echt doorgezet. Ik heb na jaren niks, de hobby weer opgepakt. Overal de vst's van, Ableton en mijn Native Instruments spullen, (-sorry geen synth museum) weer een minimalistisch strakke setup om ideeën uit te gaan werken. Ipv. steeds maar weer beginnen en stoppen haha
    Blijft echt liefde en ontspanning deze muziek altijd!. Hier ook gek op de 303!
    Thanks voor deze! 😉
    (Groet uit het Westen)

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад +1

      Idd gewoon maken wat je zelf leuk vind is uiteindelijk het geheim

    • @dennisf1973
      @dennisf1973 Год назад

      @@Estuera precies dat is die rode draad (niet de rode schoentjes haha) en kan niemand je aanleren in het leven gelukkig!

  • @amay167
    @amay167 Год назад

    Looking forward to hearing this. Loved your long video interview with Twan Jonas. Do you like techno like deepbass and ness kind of techno like Ness - Hive Structure would love to know if this is your kind of techno. Or Deepbass -Immersive or Trancemaster - Nord Spedition would love to know your thoughts on these tracks. What do you think about the hypnotic and RAW trance as a genre? Lovely pads in your track

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад +1

      Thanks!
      And I can certainly appreciate the tracks you mentioned. I don't see myself creating and releasing it but I do like to listen to it. Might be one day interesting for the channel.

    • @amay167
      @amay167 Год назад

      @@Estuera No worries, it's ok if it's not your kind of style I know you make summery tracks. Have you thought about making organic house/melodic house tracks like Dokho & Not Now Please - Follow The Princess it's made by Fast Distance which is the current house sound at the moment. I think you would make some killer tunes in this genre since you've had experience in making summery tracks?

  • @abletonproducer0014
    @abletonproducer0014 Год назад

    more videos in nearny fenres pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeej

  • @CARDSTOPTCG
    @CARDSTOPTCG Год назад +1

    Respect the vid. Personally I don't like any of the techno vibed trance ...for me second turn, sonrisa, tales from the south was best it ever got. Would love to hear more of that for my ears. But times change things change

  • @emphatic001
    @emphatic001 Год назад

    Great video and track! What distortion are you using on the 303, please?
    Edit: Oh, it's just the built in "drive"?

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад

      In this case its one of the internal fx indeed. I think it was the fuzz fx.

  • @Mad4400
    @Mad4400 Год назад

    Are the visuals for the track taken from elsewhere? I feel like I've seen that scene with the couple walking in the tunnel before.

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад

      It is stock footage indeed which is free to use so you certainly could have seen it somewhere else before.
      I already used a part of the same clip myself in one of my other videos on this channel.
      Off course it would be very cool to actually go out and film original material but there basically are no budgets for that in the 'underground' music scene.

    • @Mad4400
      @Mad4400 Год назад +1

      @@Estuera Ahh that's set my mind at ease. I had immediately associated it with your music, but since the upload was so new, there was no way I could have seen it already. I've been running lean on sleep this week, and some experiences have been... um, difficult to process satisfactorily.
      Unless you have a specific concept in mind that accompanies the audio, stock footage can often fulfil the brief nicely.
      Your trance stuff always seems to invoke nostalgia of that golden age everyone remembers, and this example is no exception.

  • @krz9000
    @krz9000 Год назад

    Thanks for not using a voicesample from a documentary talking about outerspace on top of your breakdown. That kind of cheese was always such a downer

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад

      Although sometimes cheese can be tasty 😁

  • @suryadnb
    @suryadnb Год назад +2

    The other Easter egg is the Robert Armani sound?

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад +1

      You got it!

    • @Streck0_909
      @Streck0_909 Год назад

      @@Estuera Too bad. The breakdown at 16:40 reminded me of the part leading up to the final drop in "Young Birds" by DJ Weirdo & Dr. Phil Omanski. I was kinda hoping that was it.

    • @tom3swings
      @tom3swings 11 месяцев назад +1

      Is that the reversed-type sound?

  • @blackbelt8124
    @blackbelt8124 Год назад

    Jo Jonas..
    .. waarom heb jij geen Access Virus TI2 en/of een Novation SuperNova ? : )

    • @Estuera
      @Estuera  Год назад

      Nooit echt het gevoel gehad dat ik die nodig had.
      Ik wil wel nog eens een Nord rack 2 halen maar die 2 staan niet op mijn lijst

    • @blackbelt8124
      @blackbelt8124 Год назад

      Dat.. vraagt om uitleg!?
      SuperNova als voorganger van JP8080 en Virus TI2 als de finnisher!?
      Voor trance onmisbaar ..

    • @pitsnake
      @pitsnake Год назад

      Beste van de virus is de C met 32 voices je kan de unison op 8 voices en nog een choor maken die supersaw doet denken. Ti l/ti2 zijn van 2007-2009. De C is de laatste met een echte motorolla dsp chip. En heeft een warmer sound lijk de jp-80X0 en nord lead(rack). Ik heb de virus -a, c, ti2 ik kan op de basisgeluiden het verschil horen we kunnen patches van de a of de c naar de ti kopieren.