24fps vs 23.976fps | FRAME RATE dilemma for filmmakers

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 127

  • @CinemaResonatesLife
    @CinemaResonatesLife  4 года назад +3

    Have you watched my new video (video essay) comparing two scenes from The Godfather & an Amazon Prime Indian series?
    ruclips.net/video/AjDyNtHnd14/видео.html 💓🤗

  • @GavinHornak
    @GavinHornak 4 года назад +30

    Absolutely loved this! I had searched RUclips for a comprehensive explanation and you are the only one giving it. Love the other videos - easy subscribe!

    • @CinemaResonatesLife
      @CinemaResonatesLife  4 года назад

      Thanks Gavin😍. Means a lot to me

    • @alhaddifateh
      @alhaddifateh 3 года назад

      Same with me

    • @lifeingeneral9111
      @lifeingeneral9111 Год назад

      he's not all correct. simply put. after the war millions of GIs bought MUNTZ TVs tha wouldn't work when color tv started Broadcasting color signal so the had to trick the bw tv's into believing what they seeing was a bw signal. that's it. in 2000 all this Fractionalizd bullshit could have been killed but stupid hollywood liberals thought that it was video law and to this day walk by any 150,000 dollar camera and you'll see 23.976 and if you ask one of those Geniuses "why you shooting 23.976" they
      always say "you have to, it's video" in fact it's really not even video, it's "VLIM", NOT VIDEO OR FILM. at least thats what ive been calling it for the past 20 years.

  • @thepwrtank18
    @thepwrtank18 Год назад +10

    24 frames per 1.001 seconds makes so much sense now, thank you.

  • @guilhermefranciulli5088
    @guilhermefranciulli5088 6 месяцев назад +1

    Simply amazing. This was the best explanation/class that I found at that moment. Thank you very much. Memories from Brazil.

  • @aw-de-cn
    @aw-de-cn 2 года назад +3

    A great deal of effort has been put on it by engineering minds, and since it has been arduously carried on by filmmakers, to linger your experience to a great extent of time, to help you contemplate. Which makes you a more sensible living being and you resonate more with lift itself.
    “The allotted function of art is not, as is often assumed, to put across ideas, to propagate thoughts, to serve as an example. The aim of art is to prepare a person for death, to plough and harrow his soul, rendering it capable of turning to good.”
    ― Andrei Tarkovsky
    Great Topic there.

    • @CinemaResonatesLife
      @CinemaResonatesLife  2 года назад

      Regards 😊🙏🏽

    • @КэмСвадьбы
      @КэмСвадьбы 8 месяцев назад

      Цель искусства - подготовить человека к смерти, возвысить его душу, чтобы она могла обратиться к добру. Художник существует только потому, что мир не устроен, мир не благополучен. Кино - самое несчастное из искусств, оно очень зависит от денег

    • @КэмСвадьбы
      @КэмСвадьбы 8 месяцев назад

      Вопрос только откуда ты знаешь советского режиссера Андрей Тарковского?!!

  • @4CXCFilms
    @4CXCFilms 24 дня назад +1

    This was a very good video.

  • @tianhxu
    @tianhxu 3 года назад +9

    Clearest explanation I’ve come across, thank you. Still stuck though, can you help me out?
    1. If NTSC ran into problems with colour and slowed down 30 to 29.976, and 24 to 23.976, why didn’t PAL do the same for 25?
    2. Can you explain more about DVB-T, ATSC, ISDB-T, DTMB? So can they all display true 24 and 60 fps? What about 25 fps in PAL regions? Do PAL and NTSC regions still exist?
    3. So, what is the point of my camera shooting 23.976? Why don’t we all shoot 24, and let NTSC TV slow down the playback at 0.1%? Alternatively, why not just shoot true 24 because all modern TVs can display it anyway? Is it something to do with the electronics in the camera?
    4. You say delivering at 24 is obviously for DCP projection at digital theatres. So do you mean that if I shoot and deliver at 23.976, it won’t project properly? Why don’t we all shoot and deliver true 24 if TVs can display it anyway? Why is there still this issue with 24, 25, 30 fps, depending on NTSC/PAL regions of 50/60Hz?
    5. So what happens if I shoot 23.976 and deliver at 24? Will there be duplicated frames? Or does it become shorter in length? Vice versa, what if I shoot true 24 and deliver at 23.976? Are there skipped frames? Or does it become longer? Likewise, what about compatibility with 25 fps? Say, if 23.976 or 24 was to be broadcast in PAL regions, which you mention have been replaced?
    I’m asking all this because after watching your video, I still don’t know to shoot true 24 or 23.976, or 25 for that matter. Nor what format to deliver in and if it matters at all.

    • @CinemaResonatesLife
      @CinemaResonatesLife  3 года назад +4

      See, NTSC and PAL format are strictly for broadcasting. If you are exporting a film or any kind of video which you are about to send to a client in another country, for OTT platform or for RUclips, you need not to worry about the frame rate. It will run just fine. Select the frame rate according to the aesthetic value it gives. For ex. 24fps for Cinema.
      Thanks for asking all of those questions. I hope my answer helps 🤗

    • @emigames6248
      @emigames6248 3 года назад +2

      @@CinemaResonatesLife Can 60 fps ever be used in a film setting? Just curious because I once played a game that was more like a movie-game in 60 fps (namely, Detroit: Become Human).

    • @CinemaResonatesLife
      @CinemaResonatesLife  3 года назад

      @@emigames6248 Actually it's already been used like in Ang Lee's films and many other directors'. But the question is which kind of aesthetic you want to go with, 24fps or higher fps' films like Gemini Man (120fps).

    • @emigames6248
      @emigames6248 3 года назад +1

      @@CinemaResonatesLife lol. Then the only device I have that can play Gemini Man without frame rate downgrading is my gaming laptop.

    • @lifeingeneral9111
      @lifeingeneral9111 Год назад

      @@CinemaResonatesLife i believe both film and tv over there are both shot @ 25fps

  • @RolandAyala
    @RolandAyala 2 года назад +1

    One of the best videos on topic I've come across. Well done and thank you!!

  • @maxagabon18
    @maxagabon18 5 месяцев назад

    what a good video. Great job!

  • @jean-francoissimard6591
    @jean-francoissimard6591 2 года назад

    Complete explanations and moving commentary at the end, I loved it.

  • @Cyber_Lava
    @Cyber_Lava 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for this video and nice quote at the end

  • @kim_dongryeong
    @kim_dongryeong Год назад

    8:36 Can anyone confirm if I understood correctly. So there is a video of 2 hour 7.2 second (7202.2 seconds in total) length at 23.976 FPS. It means that (A) this video consists of 172,800 frames (= 7207.2 seconds / 1.001 seconds * 24 frames), (B) it's supposed to play 24 frames for 1.001 seconds and (C) this video will play for 2 hours and 7.2 seconds on an over-the-air television. But if you play the same video file at a theater through DCP, DCP will regard it as 24 FPS and will play 24 frames for 1 second. So this 2 hour 7.2 second long video will be played for only 2 hours at a theater through DCP (so 7.2 seconds less) because 172,800 frames / 24 frames = 7200 seconds.

  • @Jasonmoussa1
    @Jasonmoussa1 Год назад

    this was really well done!

  • @JeffBourke
    @JeffBourke Год назад +1

    but the camera companies STILL don't give us pro-sumer cameras that can shoot True 30.0 or True 60.0 fps.

    • @lifeingeneral9111
      @lifeingeneral9111 Год назад

      right! that's why they things these days called jobs, get yourself one and buy a red komodo and you won't have to bother yourself with the small things in life.

  • @stevesvids
    @stevesvids 2 года назад

    👏👏 thank you . A new thing I've learned. Greatly appreciated. 👍👋

  • @misframed
    @misframed Год назад

    Probably the best explanation I’ve ever heard respectively seen. Good job 👏 ❤

  • @mattcero1
    @mattcero1 2 года назад +1

    Fantastic lesson and the presentation is top shelf!

  • @Frainkiz
    @Frainkiz 3 года назад

    Thank you. This video is made by heart. I see it 😊

  • @kunalravindra
    @kunalravindra 4 года назад

    Outstanding. Subscribed already. Thank you for this.

    • @CinemaResonatesLife
      @CinemaResonatesLife  4 года назад

      Thanks and welcome. I hope you've watched my new video on Mirzapur & Godfather 🤗

  • @rajnishwar.chauhan
    @rajnishwar.chauhan Год назад +1

    Hey! Thanks for this video.
    Can you please help?
    I shot & edited short film on 23.976 fps,
    Film fests. are demanding 24 fps.
    Should i render it to 24 fps and if i do, will there be any changes ?
    One more thing that i noticed is after adding video of 23.976 fps (Shot, edited and rendered with same fps) have lag or lack of fluency.
    What should i do in both the scenarios?

  • @tomasgarcia5054
    @tomasgarcia5054 2 года назад

    Gracias. La velocidad le da la magia. Saludos, desde Argentina.

  • @SylveonMujigaeOfficial
    @SylveonMujigaeOfficial 4 года назад +6

    If you can't really understand him, please turn on subtitles/captions.

  • @TheRockeyAllen
    @TheRockeyAllen 3 года назад +1

    Waiting for you to upload the other videos you mentioned in this video

    • @CinemaResonatesLife
      @CinemaResonatesLife  3 года назад +1

      Happy to get this reminder Rocky😄. New video is under process. It will be released soon & I'll bring those videos you mentioned too. Thanks for supporting and staying with this channel. 🙏🏽

  • @mrhobs
    @mrhobs Год назад +1

    I would say just shoot true 24fps in all situations. (Aside from higher frame rates like 30fps and 60fps, etc.)

  • @JeffBourke
    @JeffBourke Год назад

    3:23 I believe there is a small error here. 30.0 became 29.970 (NOT 29.976). 24.0 became 23.976 which is where i think you got confused.

    • @00o0o00
      @00o0o00 Месяц назад

      It's corrected at 4:20

  • @BrorFredrik
    @BrorFredrik 4 года назад +1

    Well done and subscribed

    • @CinemaResonatesLife
      @CinemaResonatesLife  4 года назад +1

      Thanks a lot🤗. Hope you like the next one too

    • @BrorFredrik
      @BrorFredrik 4 года назад

      @@CinemaResonatesLife I'm sure I will!

  • @JaredRibic
    @JaredRibic 3 года назад

    Thanks for doing this video!

  • @joseacarrasm
    @joseacarrasm 3 года назад +1

    The best explanation I came across Internet. I know os this things before because my father was a TV engineer and spoke about this things.

  • @sumantra7462
    @sumantra7462 3 года назад

    Thank you very much man. 💚 Such a in-depth research you have put in this video. Very helpful. Lots of love🌿

    • @CinemaResonatesLife
      @CinemaResonatesLife  3 года назад +1

      Thanks a lot. Valuable viewers like you encourage me to bring stuff like this. BDW new video is in the making.

    • @sumantra7462
      @sumantra7462 3 года назад

      @@CinemaResonatesLife great! Would love find out soon. Thanks again

  • @EL.BARTON
    @EL.BARTON 3 года назад +2

    So, if I have some footage in 23,976fps, some footage in real 24fps, and one drone shot in 29,976fps and I wanna do one video with all of these footage, what can I do for smooth result? What timeline and export fps settings do you recommend? Thanks a lot.

    • @CinemaResonatesLife
      @CinemaResonatesLife  3 года назад

      It depends on the video that you want to export. Accordingly you should set your sequence settings in the editing program. If you exporting video other than film then you should go with 30fps or 29.976fps. I hope it helps 😊

    • @alhayom9479
      @alhayom9479 3 года назад

      muumuus up n

    • @qiyuxuan9437
      @qiyuxuan9437 3 года назад +4

      Use 23.976 timeline, slow the 24fps footage down by 0.01% and slowdown the 29.97 footage by 20%.

  • @GFX_media
    @GFX_media 4 года назад

    Thank you for this video, very helpful 👏🏻

  • @MusicianLivesMatter
    @MusicianLivesMatter 4 года назад +1

    Thank You! Well Done!

  • @eloreneloreneloreneloreneloren

    Great video essay

  • @mazart612
    @mazart612 3 года назад

    This was amazing!

  • @TheArdhyCard
    @TheArdhyCard 4 года назад +1

    thank you, awesome. how to convert 23.976fps edited footage to 24fps. without audio drift?

    • @CinemaResonatesLife
      @CinemaResonatesLife  4 года назад

      The audio sampling frequency for your audio is normally unaffected by video frame rate. Audio has a sample rate, measured in kilohertz. Standard audio for video is recorded at 48 khz. This does not change with framerate; audio will always be the same, whether you're shooting or converting footage from 23.976 to or 24 fps.
      Unless you are filming hours and hours of footage, then you will have a lag of 7.2 seconds every 2 hours of a video.
      If you are still facing problem try fixing your digital recoder, it might be due to some difference in the electronics or else try fixing it in Audition.

    • @CinemaResonatesLife
      @CinemaResonatesLife  4 года назад

      BDW you could check out two more interesting videos on this channel and new videos coming soon😍🤗

  • @katflorida8349
    @katflorida8349 Год назад

    I got a big problem. I just bought a Sony fs7 but i need to shoot a feature in 24p. For a movie/cinematic look i need 24p. But in the camera settings i only see 23.98p and 25p. What should i do?

    • @CinemaResonatesLife
      @CinemaResonatesLife  Год назад

      If your camera doesn't record true 24p natively then you can go with 23.976 otherwise choose a camera which shoots true 24p. Best of luck!!

  • @ongbakbuang
    @ongbakbuang 4 года назад +1

    I'm quite confused if it is ATSC or ASTC. 5:31
    I think Japan uses the ISDB-T and not DVB-T. I'm quite confused. 5:34

    • @CinemaResonatesLife
      @CinemaResonatesLife  4 года назад +1

      Thanks buddy. Although this doesn't affect the reason why we use 23.976fps, but you are right in both the cases. I misspelled and presented ATSC as ASTC and Japan do use ISDB-T. I hope to be more careful next time.
      Thank you again for this valuable comment, resposible viewers like you help in pushing this medium to greater heights.

    • @ongbakbuang
      @ongbakbuang 4 года назад

      @@CinemaResonatesLife It's okay. I was afraid at first that I will be misinterpreted as bashing, but thank you for your kind message. God Bless!

    • @CinemaResonatesLife
      @CinemaResonatesLife  4 года назад +1

      @@ongbakbuang Please check out my other videos. New videos will be coming very soon😊

  • @widM_
    @widM_ 3 года назад

    So if your master is at 23,976 fps how you conform this to 24 fps for dcp?

    • @CinemaResonatesLife
      @CinemaResonatesLife  3 года назад

      If you are planning to release your movie or show in cinema halls then it's better to master in 24fps then conform into 23.976 for WEB or TV release.
      Here as you've already mastered in 23.976 it can be carried in a DCP but if you still want to conform into 24fps, change the sequence settings in your editing software. It won't do any noticeable change to your edited footage. 😊

  • @MsMoeb
    @MsMoeb 8 месяцев назад

    Yet another indian tutorial to teach western civilisation about what they invented themselves. Well done dude.

  • @christianmariano1071
    @christianmariano1071 4 года назад +1

    Dragonball Z in Japan was dub on 23,976 fps!

    • @ac1ddead
      @ac1ddead 3 года назад

      all anime have 23,976

  • @InteractiveDNA
    @InteractiveDNA 4 года назад +1

    You should avoid both frame frames. Both frame rates belongs to last century. 24fps is a must NO and 23.98 it could pass cause you can easily convert to 30 and 60. But avoid both frame rates at all costs. Those frame rates are unicorn, don’t exist in today’s monitors and displays and will cause you many problems.

    • @CinemaResonatesLife
      @CinemaResonatesLife  4 года назад

      I think you should watch this video ruclips.net/video/EM16aiSSpFk/видео.html to uderstand better why it's not just an excuse for filmmakers to use 24fps or 23.976fps rather it's very crucial for this medium. 😊

    • @InteractiveDNA
      @InteractiveDNA 4 года назад +1

      @@CinemaResonatesLife Thanks for the link. But I understand extremely well frame rates. I am the first in the world to deliver Blu-ray video quality over the internet back in 2006 with my encoding software. 24fps needs to be removed from all camera from now and so on. Period. It just makes any video horrible to watch. Also, it is a horrible frame rate for creating interactive videos. Too many horrible things about this frame rate. I used to work with film and digital to deliver commercials for movie theaters and broadcasting stations, 24fps always where a nightmare. Again! PLEASE STOP USING 24FPS, IT DOES NOT EXIST ON TODAY'S MONITORS OR DISPLAYS. PERIOD! IT BELONGS TO CINEMAS. THE LINK YOU PROVIDED PLAYS HORRIBLE BECAUSE IT IS 24FPS. Same goes to people that ask pictures with DPI, DPI does not exists on computer screens. Always ask for resolution/video size and never DPI. Same as video, 24fps does not exist. Computers will create the missing frames to match the hertz. By doing that, every computer and displays will playback a 24fps horribly. People that are near sighted and people that has epilepsy should avoid watching videos on monitors at 24fps. We can see the horrible strobes when playing back. Create the cine look in POST and render the footage at the country's hertz.

    • @kconrad5893
      @kconrad5893 2 года назад

      @@InteractiveDNA You’re an idiot bro. That’s YOUR opinion.

  • @4tcfilm
    @4tcfilm 4 года назад

    The strip of 35mm film, you showing is not from 35 motion picture camera! but from still camera.....

  • @sourabbaidya9554
    @sourabbaidya9554 4 года назад

    Oshadharon.

  • @GellertTV
    @GellertTV 4 года назад

    Really good video ! You need to show the subscribers amount to get 1 million !

  • @4picashow418
    @4picashow418 3 года назад

    Is there gonna be a different runtime between 23.976 and 24 fps? If yea how many second different from 2 hour movie?

    • @CinemaResonatesLife
      @CinemaResonatesLife  3 года назад +1

      You will have a lag of 7.2 seconds every 2 hours of a video if I understood your query.

    • @4picashow418
      @4picashow418 3 года назад

      @@CinemaResonatesLife @Cinema Resonates Life thanks, that's bout right. How did u count it?

  • @anuraj5295
    @anuraj5295 2 года назад

    any defference in motion(natuaral moton blure ) between 24fps and 23.97 fps?

  • @MORCOPOLO0817
    @MORCOPOLO0817 2 года назад

    Can you really tell the difference when you watch it?

  • @ruepelmarkus394
    @ruepelmarkus394 2 года назад

    Hello great Video, when I shoot in 60fps or 120fps, should I export in 24fps or 23,98 fps?

    • @CinemaResonatesLife
      @CinemaResonatesLife  Год назад

      Both works fine

    • @lifeingeneral9111
      @lifeingeneral9111 Год назад

      just shoot 24 and stop listening to those hollywood geniuses

    • @wilsonrositaortiz5037
      @wilsonrositaortiz5037 Год назад

      @@CinemaResonatesLife you mean its okay to use in 24p timeline both of 23.97 fps and 24fps?

    • @CinemaResonatesLife
      @CinemaResonatesLife  Год назад

      @@wilsonrositaortiz5037 @ruepelmarkus394 asked about shifting from 60/120 fps to 24/23.976 fps to slow the footage I guess.
      If you already have footage in either 24 or 23.976, the timeline will be created automatically if you drag the footage on the timeline. You can change timeline settings afterwards if you want.

    • @wilsonrositaortiz5037
      @wilsonrositaortiz5037 Год назад

      @@CinemaResonatesLife I know how to slow mo. my question is, in my camera i don' t have exact 24p, i have 23. 976p , 23.98p etcc... what should i use like a true 24p?

  • @chander_negi
    @chander_negi 4 года назад

    😎🤏
    😏🕶️🤏
    Smooth.

  • @ikisfilm1994
    @ikisfilm1994 3 года назад

    Wrong. No one shoots PAL in Brazil as far as i know

  • @jonathanJRA
    @jonathanJRA 3 года назад

    Bom video!

  • @fliqgaming007
    @fliqgaming007 3 года назад

    Hi bro.. just have a doubt.. i have 4K 100fps footages to be edited for RUclips. So which is the best frame rate to work in Premiere pro.. i tried 24fps sequence but when i slow down the clips again to ultra slow motion, the frame jumps !! I need to make Cinematic 24fps 4K video for RUclips, no need of 100fps !! Kindly please help !!

    • @CinemaResonatesLife
      @CinemaResonatesLife  2 года назад

      You simply create the sequence the way you want it to be and drop your footage on it. When asked if you want to change the sequence settings to match the video, tell it "no".
      The video will play at the normal speed.
      If you want some specific portion to be in slow motion then import the footage again through Interpret Footage>Frame Rate and then do crop & insert the specific portion on top of the earlier import that I mentioned above. Hope it helps😊

  • @chrisw1462
    @chrisw1462 3 года назад

    #KILL59.94

  • @stickfigursicide
    @stickfigursicide 3 года назад

    Great video, thanks a ton!