I think at 30:00 after that realization that your opponent could just flip the guardian on demand and hadn't yet, despite having no cards in hand, he should've pulled the trigger on unfriendly fire. At that point, he's losing to fliers anyway, and his opponent is demonstrating that he might not fully understand that the Guardian doesn't have to die in the fight. Not ideal, but I think that's the best shot at winning.
at 26:32 , why not use hunt the weak on needletooth raptor and thrash of raptors, and then give it aggressive urge? You'd kill both enemy creatures and keep your raptor alive.
Fallen Bishop Hibram Flipped Guardian in Draft is too oppressive to fight against. Your opponent gets a 4/4 every single turn and with it being a land there’s very little you can do about it
I don't disagree but at the time it was going to flip he was only a few attacks away from winning. In my opinion he could have closed the game out before the opponent gained any significant advantage with the guardian.
At 31:19 you could have blocked the everdawn champion with the needletooth and shot down the heliopterous. That would have left them with no flyers. You would have been at 3. Would still probably lose to the golem but you stuck it out that long, should have kept at it.
I think midpack evolving wilds is correct over other filler cards especially in Dino's. It's just the best colorless common splash card in the format and facilitates something like a gishath pack 3. Journey to eternity could have been good as well. Also holy shit I don't know why I never realized you could cycle Urge on your opponents creatures if need be. Hidden text of cycling 2. Value.
Stephen Lofton good argument there. It’s all about personal preference for LSV there though with his pick. He’s just the kind of player - and I’m the same way - that prefers to opt for a curve and stay on 2 colors when there’s no strong signals to branch out. It’s just safer most times to stay on theme, although sometimes it pays off to take the fixing there. If white was more open he prolly would take wilds there. Other dude from the last match was too busy drafting double white mythical for that to happen.
I understand that staying in colors is really good, but why did he pass a moment in p1p3? r/b is extremely good and if you're being passed a moment it's a clear sign that black will be open. Also, its pretty feasible that you can still splash regi. I feel like he was punished by not experimenting with black, and missed out on like 2 or 3 moments as well as some bomb black cards. Otherwise, ily LSV
Yeah, I also would've taken Moment P1P3, and then P1P4, but his colors ended up being very open anyways. Then again, he got passed a Sanctum Seeker pack 3. Who knows what would've happened. I also would've first picked Luminous Bonds, and would've taken Waterknot next.
a lot of black in packs 2+3, not many easy color fixers that came 'free' in pack 12 hard to speculate on a p1p4 having another Craving in it, too late too bad so sad etc etc
Colors being open is less relevant than tribes being open in this format. It's what i don't like about the draft portion of ixilan, pick the best tribal card p1p1 and do your best to force it or take the bombest cards and figure out how to splash it, is how it goes.
I did not understand why he didnt offered a trade and try to unfriendly fire it in response to the ability. Then i read Guardian again and must say, dayum, what an annyoing card.
My personal experience is that the GR only dino deck is very bad. You get chewed up because you don't have flying and you rarely get enough removal because other players take the premium removal. GR removal is almost all single color (pounce, hunt the weak, bombard, etc.). Whereas the black and blue is double color and not as easy to take as a possible splash. Therefore, GR removal gets taken early...and it seems like this is what happens in this draft. The only time I've won (or lost against) GR dino's is when the deck has white for removal and flyers.
Wow! That guy really was just better at magic than you huh... Nothing you can do i guess. I think that maybe you need to train a bit more so you can open some more busted rares when you draft. Like the last draft where you opened two elder dinosaurs in a row, you were really good at magic that draft!
Heliopterus is overcosted, underpowered for uncommon, fragile, and can only lift dinos. and your splashing a 3rd color for it....? Form of the Dinosaur pretty much says 'you win' if you have any board presence at all. It does more than pretty any other 6 mana Red spell, even Etali can whiff.
I've played Form and played against form and I have never lost a game due to the card and that card has never won me a game. So maybe in theoretical land its good...but in the games I've played its not.
25:16 “Let me give them one turn”
25:38 “Let’s give it one more turn”
Way too much mercy.
Demolish actually does help against Golden Guardian. It destroys both Golden Guardian and Gold-Forge Garrison.
Yup. Killing the land usually means they 2 for 1ed themself the turn before, too. The one and only time I'd side in Demolish.
I bring in Demolish against any of the more threatening double-faced cards. There's several that are pretty dangerous if left unchecked.
i'm frilled about this draft
“That card is so good. Too bad my opponent is dead.” Lol. You’re awesome.
Liked at "I am pretty frilled about it."
I knew Golden Guardian was good, but jeez. If you have 2 mana up, your opponent can't touch it. And it's a house, so they have to deal with it.
I think at 30:00 after that realization that your opponent could just flip the guardian on demand and hadn't yet, despite having no cards in hand, he should've pulled the trigger on unfriendly fire. At that point, he's losing to fliers anyway, and his opponent is demonstrating that he might not fully understand that the Guardian doesn't have to die in the fight. Not ideal, but I think that's the best shot at winning.
I've yet to see form of the dino be anything but suicidal
Yeah, i have never seen it put to success
would you play archer mainboard in BO1? Arena has Ixalan block this week so I was just curious.
LOL frilled about it, classic LSV
Why not play one archer? It can target needletooth and fight for one.
at 26:32 , why not use hunt the weak on needletooth raptor and thrash of raptors, and then give it aggressive urge? You'd kill both enemy creatures and keep your raptor alive.
I think you played around the golden guardian flip too much, imho.
Fallen Bishop Hibram Flipped Guardian in Draft is too oppressive to fight against. Your opponent gets a 4/4 every single turn and with it being a land there’s very little you can do about it
I don't disagree but at the time it was going to flip he was only a few attacks away from winning. In my opinion he could have closed the game out before the opponent gained any significant advantage with the guardian.
Demolish answers both sides of Golden Guardian, though perhaps bringing it in versus a single target is excessive.
At least Demolish technically always has targets.
It's been a while since I've seen this, but did he see the Sun in game 1?
Wow at the chat message sent by the opponent in game 2. No respect.
self deprecating jokes are better
He was being sarcastic. He knew they only reason the game went so well for him was the Guardian
He didn't even know how to use the guardian, if he was being sarcastic it was about LSV being mana screwed.
dreadmaw is a ixalant card, indeed
/Ourguy/ never disappoints!
love the Corsair into Guardian line, 'yup, he's got it'
At 31:19 you could have blocked the everdawn champion with the needletooth and shot down the heliopterous. That would have left them with no flyers. You would have been at 3. Would still probably lose to the golem but you stuck it out that long, should have kept at it.
Getting unlucky draws =/= being bad at magic. I was hoping you would come back and crush him, and you were so close too.
Dave Shepherd honestly think that guy was making a (bad) joke.
ThirdWiggin that is the most likely reason for sure.
Atcozan archer seems great with needletooth raptor, dont think you considered that?
What?... - Form of dinosaurs utside main deck? Is a land or dino, whatever we needs
YYYYYYEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS
I think midpack evolving wilds is correct over other filler cards especially in Dino's. It's just the best colorless common splash card in the format and facilitates something like a gishath pack 3. Journey to eternity could have been good as well. Also holy shit I don't know why I never realized you could cycle Urge on your opponents creatures if need be. Hidden text of cycling 2. Value.
Stephen Lofton good argument there. It’s all about personal preference for LSV there though with his pick. He’s just the kind of player - and I’m the same way - that prefers to opt for a curve and stay on 2 colors when there’s no strong signals to branch out. It’s just safer most times to stay on theme, although sometimes it pays off to take the fixing there. If white was more open he prolly would take wilds there. Other dude from the last match was too busy drafting double white mythical for that to happen.
I understand that staying in colors is really good, but why did he pass a moment in p1p3? r/b is extremely good and if you're being passed a moment it's a clear sign that black will be open. Also, its pretty feasible that you can still splash regi. I feel like he was punished by not experimenting with black, and missed out on like 2 or 3 moments as well as some bomb black cards. Otherwise, ily LSV
Yeah, I also would've taken Moment P1P3, and then P1P4, but his colors ended up being very open anyways. Then again, he got passed a Sanctum Seeker pack 3. Who knows what would've happened. I also would've first picked Luminous Bonds, and would've taken Waterknot next.
a lot of black in packs 2+3, not many easy color fixers that came 'free' in pack 12
hard to speculate on a p1p4 having another Craving in it, too late too bad so sad etc etc
Colors being open is less relevant than tribes being open in this format. It's what i don't like about the draft portion of ixilan, pick the best tribal card p1p1 and do your best to force it or take the bombest cards and figure out how to splash it, is how it goes.
Why is Stampeding Horncrest rated so highly by streamers? I feel like it really underperforms
Was wondering about that too. 4/4 haste...is that really such a bomb?
those people win the die roll and curve out
I did not understand why he didnt offered a trade and try to unfriendly fire it in response to the ability. Then i read Guardian again and must say, dayum, what an annyoing card.
My personal experience is that the GR only dino deck is very bad. You get chewed up because you don't have flying and you rarely get enough removal because other players take the premium removal. GR removal is almost all single color (pounce, hunt the weak, bombard, etc.). Whereas the black and blue is double color and not as easy to take as a possible splash. Therefore, GR removal gets taken early...and it seems like this is what happens in this draft. The only time I've won (or lost against) GR dino's is when the deck has white for removal and flyers.
Stampeding Monstrosaur** lol
Play jace decks, lsv! Greetings from Brasil!
Golden Guardian + Everdawn Champion is a nice combo.
Everdawn Champion doesn't non combat damage
Ah, right. I keep mistakenly thinking the fight mechanic also counts as combat.
What
Wow! That guy really was just better at magic than you huh... Nothing you can do i guess. I think that maybe you need to train a bit more so you can open some more busted rares when you draft. Like the last draft where you opened two elder dinosaurs in a row, you were really good at magic that draft!
Form of the dino is vastly unplayable; heliopterus on the other hand is exactly the white card you want to splash for in GR dinos
Heliopterus is overcosted, underpowered for uncommon, fragile, and can only lift dinos. and your splashing a 3rd color for it....?
Form of the Dinosaur pretty much says 'you win' if you have any board presence at all.
It does more than pretty any other 6 mana Red spell, even Etali can whiff.
I've played Form and played against form and I have never lost a game due to the card and that card has never won me a game. So maybe in theoretical land its good...but in the games I've played its not.
Noooooooo
Even you, one of the most entertaining players of this game, can't make this boring format interesting. :/