bought myself the neo70 because i was in awe of the magnetic pogo connector but i also wanted to give soldering a try. it's very nerve-wracking for your first time but you eventually get comfortable quick once you know the basics like setting the right temp for the iron and how much solder to use. the idea of having to desolder switches is very annoying but for people really getting into the hobby and are thinking of buying more than one board at some point having a hotswap tester board for switches isn't a bad idea and then buying the solderable pcb for future boards with the switch you have in mind.
I like the versatility of the different mounting styles and the customizability of the board, but unfortunately I won’t be picking one up. Back when I was first getting into the hobby there was a GB rerun for the Zoom V1 that I purchased as my very first “custom” board. However, before the Zoom V1 GB fulfilled they announced the Zoom V2 and I believe they started preorders. Eventually my order for the Zoom V1 fulfilled and I built it, but the V1 GB a month before the V2 announcements and preorders just felt like a cash grab. The board really didn’t do it for me, plus Meletrix kinda rubbed me the wrong way and I just ended up giving the board away. However it totally could of been my fault, I was new to the hobby and may not have had much information as to what Meletrix had planned. Looking back now, I wish that experience left a bad enough taste in my mouth to not pursue the hobby further because now I have too many boards😂.
ICs for boards are normally started 2 - 3 months before a GB so if you followed the scene closer you probably would've saw the V2 was coming - but 100% understand how you would feel as someone just entering the hobby
The zoom is better geared towards people who really want to tinker I feel. I do personally like mode board better as it has a better implementation of it’s mounting style and overall design.
Meletrix needs to decide between having per key rgb or having a good pcb because those led locations are awkward and weird, just imagine rip off the rgb led only because you need to install the stabs.
@@alexotos thinking about getting one for myself again. I really love the Sonnet’s looks, but eventually sold the board because I wasn’t a fan of the sound. Hopefully the new lattice mounting will help fix that
You should check whether the switches around the backspace and enter area are lifted off the pcb or not. In my experience with WS Stupid stabs, the area where the wire clips to the housing is too tall and would make contact with the plate, pulling nearby switches out of the sockets. Plates that don't have cutouts near the wire side of the stab will all have this issue. Learned this the hard way when I tried using Stupid stabs in my unikorn.
Yeah I don't think I will be using the board much unless I get my hands on a 1.6mm PCB, but it seems like it has potential and could be a lot of fun for people who want to experiment.
It's wild that every youtuber that gets sponsored to review a product has to include "this is sponsored, but it doesn't change my opinion." It's like if every single ad on tv started with "this is an advertisement, but it does not change my opinion on this fantastic product." I dunno, just comes off manipulative.
I get that. But would you rather disclosure not happen? At least this gives you an idea (what ever it may be) before you watch and waste your time on the video. I am very honest with products and use live streams to really show off problems and my experiences with them as well. I do understand what you’re saying but I am being forthright with what goes on and honest with this kind of stuff. I also wouldn’t want to ruin or tarnish my reputation and trust with viewers over them letting me keep a keyboard.
@@alexotos No, I would rather know that it was sponsored, my issue was more that "...but I'm still 100% honest" part. I have been watching most of your videos for the better part of a year or 2 and trust your integrity for the most part, not that I use your reviews a basis for my own purchases as I have my own preferences and tastes. Your videos are nice to have a look into the nitty gritty of the keyboards shown rather than to gain an opinion on something. My (admittedly small, I'm not trying to go to war with you) issue is more that when you're paid to evaluate a product, it creates biases off being paid to do it. If this keyboard was garbage, you or anyone else being paid to review would be hesitant to say "this is cheap crap, don't buy it, buy something else" when you're being paid what, hundreds to thousands of dollars for the exact reason of marketing a product. That would be counterintuitive to the idea of being sponsored and would ruin any chances of future sponsorship deals hurting your income. If anything I would prefer a "this is sponsored stream." that's it and leaving it to the audience to decide how much they want to trustyou without being immediately coerced into not thinking about the integrity of the review. All that said, it's your life, your career to do whatever you want and I am one single person, a random passerby speaking their mind. I represent no one other than myself. Ignore this post if you want. I won't be hung up by it and I am not even in the majority here.
I still wouldn't buy a keyboard based off of one youtuber's sponsored video opinion. I always took it to mean "this is an advertisement, but it won't be a complete waste of your time." like he wasn't very positive in this video lol. he brushed over parts but it was obvi he doesn't love the keyboard.
First of all, if you're gonna say that. At least provide the information. You can't just say that without providing anything so that people who read your comment will be in the know.
@@nobody-bt7mu i though U guys can google it ....，Let me explain. When zoom65 was launched, they claimed that they used CNC. However, someone in China actually tested it and found that they used a cheap processing method, die-casting. At that time, zoom65 firmly refused to admit that they deceived consumers, but as things became known, More and more people are testing the shell processing technology of zoom65, and it was finally confirmed that zoom65 is made using a die-casting process. Only then did the zoom65 company admit that they indeed used a die-casting process. Related discussion information can be found at zfrontier and BILIBILI.
@@nobody-bt7mu I thought you could search for this matter yourself. If you can't find it, let me explain. When zoom65 was launched, they claimed that they used CNC. However, someone in China actually tested it and found that they used a cheap processing method, die casting. At that time, zoom65 We firmly refused to admit that they deceived consumers, but as the matter became known, more and more people tested the shell processing technology of zoom65, and it was finally confirmed that zoom65 was made using die-casting technology. Only then did zoom65 company admit that they indeed used die-casting. Regarding craftsmanship, you can find relevant discussion information at zfrontier, BILIBILI and Baidu.
Jack of all traits, master of spring mount
Yeah I would love to see them focus on one or two mounts for future boards
@@alexotosheck yea, it’s better than the first two but not great
I’m happy the mounting styles I was most interested in made it to your top 3 (Mag Lev, Leaf Spring)
bought myself the neo70 because i was in awe of the magnetic pogo connector but i also wanted to give soldering a try. it's very nerve-wracking for your first time but you eventually get comfortable quick once you know the basics like setting the right temp for the iron and how much solder to use. the idea of having to desolder switches is very annoying but for people really getting into the hobby and are thinking of buying more than one board at some point having a hotswap tester board for switches isn't a bad idea and then buying the solderable pcb for future boards with the switch you have in mind.
Good luck getting one in stock nowadays. I find them with only purple left lol.
Confirmed, lube makes everything better. 😆 Ty for the build vid.
Glad this could help!
alexotos upload = i like
I like the versatility of the different mounting styles and the customizability of the board, but unfortunately I won’t be picking one up.
Back when I was first getting into the hobby there was a GB rerun for the Zoom V1 that I purchased as my very first “custom” board. However, before the Zoom V1 GB fulfilled they announced the Zoom V2 and I believe they started preorders. Eventually my order for the Zoom V1 fulfilled and I built it, but the V1 GB a month before the V2 announcements and preorders just felt like a cash grab. The board really didn’t do it for me, plus Meletrix kinda rubbed me the wrong way and I just ended up giving the board away.
However it totally could of been my fault, I was new to the hobby and may not have had much information as to what Meletrix had planned. Looking back now, I wish that experience left a bad enough taste in my mouth to not pursue the hobby further because now I have too many boards😂.
ICs for boards are normally started 2 - 3 months before a GB so if you followed the scene closer you probably would've saw the V2 was coming - but 100% understand how you would feel as someone just entering the hobby
I think I want to buy this board for college, it would be fun to experiment with
Zoom65v3 vs Mode65v2 ? I am trying to decide between the two. If theres a better 65 that you would recommend, can you please let me know?
The zoom is better geared towards people who really want to tinker I feel. I do personally like mode board better as it has a better implementation of it’s mounting style and overall design.
@@alexotos thanks for the reply!! Appreciate it. Thanks for all the awesome vids
ive been waiting for this forever
Meletrix needs to decide between having per key rgb or having a good pcb because those led locations are awkward and weird, just imagine rip off the rgb led only because you need to install the stabs.
The mass production run won't have the led, tho
a zoom75 v3 with chonkier bezels would be my endgame
this board looks so fun
I really don't get it why they send every board to content creators with 1.2 flex cut PCB
That was a mistake on our end, in future we'll be making sure 1.6mm non flex cut PCB is the norm for content creators
I wonder how do you even disassemble the board with top mount
Have you had the chance to try out the new Sonnet?
I did! It's just as good, if not better, than the OG sonnet!
@@alexotos thinking about getting one for myself again. I really love the Sonnet’s looks, but eventually sold the board because I wasn’t a fan of the sound. Hopefully the new lattice mounting will help fix that
You should check whether the switches around the backspace and enter area are lifted off the pcb or not. In my experience with WS Stupid stabs, the area where the wire clips to the housing is too tall and would make contact with the plate, pulling nearby switches out of the sockets. Plates that don't have cutouts near the wire side of the stab will all have this issue. Learned this the hard way when I tried using Stupid stabs in my unikorn.
Chamfers are mandatory on website :/
Non flex cut seems like way to go. That first build was not it, for me at least.
Yeah I don't think I will be using the board much unless I get my hands on a 1.6mm PCB, but it seems like it has potential and could be a lot of fun for people who want to experiment.
Would it make sense as a solution to have a very low tolerance on the alignment pegs and then fill the tiny gap with dielectric or 205g0?
dang I did not watch literally 2 secs ahead lol
For any1 wonder what iem he iz using itz Campfire Andromeda
I really hope solder becomes available sometime soon!
Whats up with the thumbnail
whats wrong with it D:
@@alexotos Seems like the usual thumbnail. Maybe he's talking about the text? Idk.
Yeah the text looks a bit odd
@@alexotos nothings wrong with it, just that I dont think that I have ever seen text in one of your thumbnails, honestly pretty nitpicky of me lmao
i really need to know what does he type when hes trying out keebs. like kijuhy???
you think is more worth than neo65?
I personally like the Neo more
22m is too tall imo.
It's wild that every youtuber that gets sponsored to review a product has to include "this is sponsored, but it doesn't change my opinion." It's like if every single ad on tv started with "this is an advertisement, but it does not change my opinion on this fantastic product." I dunno, just comes off manipulative.
I get that. But would you rather disclosure not happen? At least this gives you an idea (what ever it may be) before you watch and waste your time on the video.
I am very honest with products and use live streams to really show off problems and my experiences with them as well. I do understand what you’re saying but I am being forthright with what goes on and honest with this kind of stuff.
I also wouldn’t want to ruin or tarnish my reputation and trust with viewers over them letting me keep a keyboard.
@@alexotos No, I would rather know that it was sponsored, my issue was more that "...but I'm still 100% honest" part.
I have been watching most of your videos for the better part of a year or 2 and trust your integrity for the most part, not that I use your reviews a basis for my own purchases as I have my own preferences and tastes. Your videos are nice to have a look into the nitty gritty of the keyboards shown rather than to gain an opinion on something.
My (admittedly small, I'm not trying to go to war with you) issue is more that when you're paid to evaluate a product, it creates biases off being paid to do it. If this keyboard was garbage, you or anyone else being paid to review would be hesitant to say "this is cheap crap, don't buy it, buy something else" when you're being paid what, hundreds to thousands of dollars for the exact reason of marketing a product. That would be counterintuitive to the idea of being sponsored and would ruin any chances of future sponsorship deals hurting your income.
If anything I would prefer a "this is sponsored stream." that's it and leaving it to the audience to decide how much they want to trustyou without being immediately coerced into not thinking about the integrity of the review.
All that said, it's your life, your career to do whatever you want and I am one single person, a random passerby speaking their mind. I represent no one other than myself. Ignore this post if you want. I won't be hung up by it and I am not even in the majority here.
I think it’s how it’s delivered. It sounds verbatim to every other creator so it sounds disingenuous. Maybe find another way to say it
I still wouldn't buy a keyboard based off of one youtuber's sponsored video opinion. I always took it to mean "this is an advertisement, but it won't be a complete waste of your time."
like he wasn't very positive in this video lol. he brushed over parts but it was obvi he doesn't love the keyboard.
@@JoshyypooTCG that’s fair!
But this company has deceived consumers before about its metalworking processes
What happened with meletrix/wuque?
just not true
First of all, if you're gonna say that. At least provide the information. You can't just say that without providing anything so that people who read your comment will be in the know.
@@nobody-bt7mu i though U guys can google it ....，Let me explain. When zoom65 was launched, they claimed that they used CNC. However, someone in China actually tested it and found that they used a cheap processing method, die-casting. At that time, zoom65 firmly refused to admit that they deceived consumers, but as things became known, More and more people are testing the shell processing technology of zoom65, and it was finally confirmed that zoom65 is made using a die-casting process. Only then did the zoom65 company admit that they indeed used a die-casting process. Related discussion information can be found at zfrontier and BILIBILI.
@@nobody-bt7mu I thought you could search for this matter yourself. If you can't find it, let me explain. When zoom65 was launched, they claimed that they used CNC. However, someone in China actually tested it and found that they used a cheap processing method, die casting. At that time, zoom65 We firmly refused to admit that they deceived consumers, but as the matter became known, more and more people tested the shell processing technology of zoom65, and it was finally confirmed that zoom65 was made using die-casting technology. Only then did zoom65 company admit that they indeed used die-casting. Regarding craftsmanship, you can find relevant discussion information at zfrontier, BILIBILI and Baidu.
First
For what?