Top 5 Deer Hunting Myths
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- There is a simple concept as to why there are so many deer hunting myths out there: Every deer hunter is an expert. Once a deer hunter has a few decent bucks under his or her belt and has hunted for 5-10 years, they are highly experienced. However, once a hunter has hunted for a few decades they are a true hunting professional and every piece of advice they spread is the gospel - right? What I find is that there is a lot of truth and a whole lot of myth mixed in. There a few deer hunting myths that have passed down for generations and while they sound good on paper, these myths are not realistic in the deer hunting woods. No matter how much hunting respect you have for Grandpa Larry or Uncle Willy, these deer hunting myths are made to be busted...
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I have always wondered about the myth that deer have access to hunting regulations and read them before the season!
Ha, too funny. They sure seem to know when the season begins...when hunters carelessly hit the woods, start baging and clanging treestand setups, leaving their scent around and pulling the spotlights out for pre season shining. They don't even need to learn how to read 😁 Hunters educate them...
Hahahaha, They have their yearly meeting prior to the season. Lmao. To send out the Does first then all small bucks next, to make sure Big Daddy’s Safe.. Hahahaha
Nah...it’s the Bugs Bunny / Daffy Duck time clock in the woods
LOL no PETA announces them on loudspeakers.
I’m pretty sure they tattoo the season dates on one hoof and have a calendar on the other
I've had a decent 8 pointer walk to me while I was peeing out of my tree stand. It was looking for the source of the sound. I almost had to shoot it with my junk blowing in the wind.
Man that’s hilarious
Lmao
Me Too !!!
I peed off my stand and immediately after 2 bucks walked in from 2 different directions.
@@btodarent Maybe we are lucky and the deer think it's another deer peeing. That's kind of what I've come to conclude. Humans aren't the only ones that pee, so maybe they're looking around on the ground and we're sitting up in trees, maybe.
I don't know if I agree with the whole urine myth, the dear hate it when I pee on their heads from my stand
Ha, lol...timing is everything!
Write that down, deer hate golden showers!
@@MrNvanderploeg3 ummmmm, huh? You needed to write that down? lol
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 well yeah like you said sounds good on paper
Roflmao.
I have to interject something: Those who claim to be animal lovers and hate hunting don't have a clue. The truth is, hunters love animals 100 times more than those armchair judges. In all the times I've been out in the off season picking up trash in the woods, or planting trees/edible plants, placing salt licks, not once have I run across one of these haters doing the same thing. However, I have run into many hunters doing it. Hunter haters think if the animals weren't hunted, it would be just like a Disney movie. The fact is, left unchecked, they'd eat themselves into starvation. An acre or sq mile of land can only support so much wildlife. If it is overpopulated, the animals strip every bit of food, develop disease and in many cases end up wandering into populated areas because they are so hungry. Furthermore, starvation is a slow painful process. So, what's better: A single kill shot and population management, or slowly dying from lack of food? Finally, if you're so gung ho, by all means have a bulldozer come and level your house to create more habitat. Hunters are the biggest conservationists around. They care about wildlife more than you ever could because in your ideal world, animals suffer. And stop feeding wild animals. It can only be detrimental to them in the long run as well as dangerous.
Great video!
Omg Jesus. I have shot a calf one time drug it cross the fence. Loaded it and skinned it. Shhhhhhhh. My neighborhood had steaks for weeks
Scott McMan harvesting your own meat is literally the most ethical way to get meat. Ever. Most people like to say that hunting is “for trophies” without realizing we eat and use every. Single. Piece. Of the deer. Oh, and they’ll talk shit on hunters while they eat their steak from the grocery store!!
Scott McMan I love deer enough to spend hundreds of dollars and hours hunting them
Scott McMan Not only that truth but the Department of fish and Game that watch habitats animal counts and even diseases. They make the rules of what, where, when and what you can take to keep them all doing well. They create habitat when needed too. Is it anti hunters or PETA and the like that fund them doing this ? No it is hunters licenses, tags, stamps etc... An animal killed to be eaten by a hunter has a much better life that one raised in a fenced area or cage. Harder to obtain wild game makes more respect for what we eat too so F you hunter haters. PETA has filed cases where deer were given ti Indian tribes. The deer taken were put in storage until the case was dismissed. Problem was the storage was not cold and the meat was bad and tossed.
@@brianbirc - Couldn't have said it better myself. By the way, I love the shows about fish and game officers. North Woods Law and Lone Star Law. Those who hate Game Wardens should watch those shows. They would see just how lenient these officers are and how they prefer to give people a break as long as they are honest and up front. I can't stand poachers or those who break game laws in general. They aren't Sportsmen. They are just killers and profiteers. And, while there can be some confusing language on documents, most of it is clear as crystal. So, ignorance of the law is seldom a good excuse.
Mr. Sturgis, I wish there were more dudes like you around.
I feel like unless you have hunters in your family, its hard for someone to find an experienced hunter to take the time to lean into new comers to hunting. Thanks for leading the way, brother!
Jeff,
I was chasing a 14 pt. 5 yr. old, Moses this yr,. and peed off my stand before dark. A few minutes later I looked down and Moses was sniffing and looking up at me, although I was hidden by pine branches. It was after shooting hours, so I just watched and after sniffing for a few minutes he walked off. I was drinking apple juice, so maybe Ted was correct. It was the best experience of my hunting season this year.
Years ago we would get down and walk 50 plus yards. to pee so the scent would not be near the stand, not the greatest action making all that noice and movement in the woods. Grant Woods told me the same thing you stated, that it will totally dissipate in 20 minutes. Keep up the good work.
thanks.....Bob Benson
Thanks a lot Bob and great to hear from you! That is a VERY cool experience. I would think that deer are very curious of urine scent...for sure...I bet Moses was wondering why that nice scent was in those pine bows 🙂
Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Fabreeze for scent control, they like the spring meadow kind, reminds em of their childhood. #FawnLife
#FawnLife
Jimmy Martin only life to live bro
Haha
I chuckled entirely too hard at this.
I really had an ex-hunting partner that did this!
People say you can't shoot deer while drinking coffee, last year I shot 2 deer with my shotgun at 14 yards with my coffee steaming away right next to me.
Just so dang hard to hold mug and shoot at same time!
Oh fuck I bring a gallon of coffee with me every day and I piss coffee smelling piss and I’ve never had a deer even notice. Sure you can tell when they smell it but it has never scared a deer off
I had an interesting hunt this year. I hunt in Northern Ontario. Monday was heavy wet snow, visibility was poor and in spite of lots of deer being in the area, I only caught a glimpse of a mature doe with no real shot potential. For the next 3 days it was minus 24 C, with a sharp arctic wind out of the North, and I did not see any deer for the first two days of the cold snap, I changed my strategy on the third cold day and hunted a really wet low area with thick ceders, that is where they were, saw two in the morning, but could not get a clear shot due to the thick brush, and in the afternoon I took a different position which was a little more open but was less favourable for wind. I spotted a doe that was quite a ways out (a little bit of a long shot for me, I wanted to wait), the wind changed and was blowing on my backside, and surprisingly, the doe picked up my scent and was curious, she started slowly my way. She got within 40 yards of me and I could see she was a small yearling, not worth taking to the butcher, so I took a picture of her and called that my shot. Friday, I had no luck in the morning, it was much warmer (above freezing) but still windy and I thought I would try still hunting as the wind might cover the sound I make as I take steps. But again, no luck. In the afternoon, heading back to camp, I spotted two does in an opening but I would have had to shoot in the direction of some cottages, which is not an acceptable shot. So I moved, belly crawled for about 150 yards to change my shot angle. I decided to close the distance a bit by approaching again on my belly, until I was about 80 yards out, I had a large Oak for cover, but to take the shot, I had to come out from behind the tree, I did a little peek and they made me and were gone out of sight in an instant. No deer this year, but I am ok with that, I am glad I let the little one go. No regrets!
Man that sounded like a great set of hunts! Northern Ontario too...very cool! I was Ontario 5 times last year... love it up there and will be back soon. I can really appreciate it the vastness of some of the area!
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I always bring a bottle to pee in!!!! It’s so much easier to drink that way.
Number 1 Deer Hunting Myth
1. You can beat a deers nose.
Amen Jiggin! All the gizmos and gadgets are a gimmick. You cannot fool a deers' nose. It's been proven that you cant time and again. The human body will always give off scent. Learn to use the wind. It is cheaper and more effective.
I have had deer walk right up to me from down wind. I don't think you can ever completely fool the deer's nose. My theory is that by using good scent control the deer don't realize I'm as close as I am. I used to hunt in an agricultural area. Deer smell people every day and also have activity around them . If they ran away every time they smelled people that's all they would do. We now hunt in a very narrow wooded valley. Deer here are much more sensitive to humans
Adrian Q 100%
john kendall same and I agree. With proper scent REDUCTION measures we can certainly reduce the human scent. The problem is though that a deer can smell one single human skin cell....
john kendall; Years ago on a clear cold morning I was hunting along the Frio in LaSalle county TX. I had worked the edge of a thicket heading upstream and saw a large crooked Mesquite whose trunk paralled the ground. I sat on the horizontal trunk facing upstream with my back to the rising sun. After about 1/2 an hour I panned to my right and nearly came face to face with a basket six point. His nose was to the ground and remarkably was coming up the exact path I had taken to the Mesquite. He walked within seven yards of me and remained oblivious of my presence. Why he did not pick up my sent on the ground? Who knows. But I remained down wind during the event, though not intentionally in this case. I never have used sent eliminators before or since, but conditons were in my favor that morning. I agree 100% deer get used to humans but these deer remained free of human interaction except for the deer season. Forgot to mention, I did let him go on his way.
Jeff, Thanks for another great video! Your channel is under appreciated for its content. You have the most accurate information than any other channel without all the hype! Thanks again for all you do for us deer lovers.
Eric those comments mean a lot more to me that you may realize. Thank you so much and I really appreciate it! I hope that you had a Merry Christmas!
It's always amazed me as to how people think a mature and or rutting buck is a super deer that has this mythical power over his whole habitat. I'm too old to be climbing in stands anymore but I do occasionally use my old Texas stand I've had sitting in the same spot for 30 years. I've killed many nice mature bucks out of that stand and all of what you said is true and really makes sense when you think about it. I've never worried about urinating in the woods and on two occasions can remember having to stop in the middle of what I was doing to pick up the rifle because of a buck walking within 30 feet of me. Hell I've had coyotes do the same thing. I don't buy cover scents but I'm careful and not rolling around the brush so I just try to watch my wind directions. I'm a big fan of changing spots each year and not get hung up on hunting the same spot every year as deer move. I do agree with you on scents, wind directions concerning bedding and does with young. I've got one old doe I feed every day and she's damn near tame. She always has 2 little ones and has for every year I have seen her. She's got to be 8 this year. My only real deer concern as I get older is the amount we've lost to coyotes. I'm seeing alot less fawns over the last 5 years and it's really starting to show in the populations. I can't seem to kill enough of them to make much difference. I've see 5 this year while hunting and those on a twenty acre tract.
Great feedback Kirby, and experience level! Sounds like we have a lot in common with the way we hunt.
What is different with a mature buck to me is that he becomes more if an independent thinker. He makes decisions often on hi own and becomes a lot more unpredictable than doe family groups...which are herd mentality creatures. Much easier to define movements with doe family groups. Just different creatures almost. Not mythical for sure, lol...just a lot different!
Really appreciate the comments Kirby, have a happy New Year!
The clips of deer moving around make me excited for season
Lyle Bonney me too!
Shut up pussy
How’s it going with season?
Great video, Jeff! Love the content. I don’t normally comment on videos, but I do want to attempt to clear one point up though.
At 0:40 you say “all urine turns to ammonia in 20 minutes”. I’m not sure where you obtained this info, but this isn’t entirely true. Urine is comprised of lots of different inorganic salts & organic compounds like proteins/metabolites/hormones/etc... one of the organic components is urea- this is what is broken down into ammonia (not the other components). It usually takes around 24 hours or so for the average of 3.5-4g of urea produced per urination to decompose into ammonia. Just wanted to make sure everyone here knows that, though ammonia is produced, there are other constituents that will be left behind & they can vary with diet/health. These can also be different from what deer are used to smelling in the woods.
Nick Byrd Great points and I really appreciate the clarification. And I should have stressed that urine is broken down into the smell of amonia, shortly. This was per a conversation I personally had with deer research biologist John Ozoga, 15-20 years ago. Basically a discussion of how human urine doesn't bother deer in any way. No need for bottles, leaving a stand to see, etc.
Anyways...appreciate the comments and technical details...have a Merry Christmas!
Whitetail Habitat Solutions gotcha! I totally understood where you were coming from, just wanted to clarify. Again, thanks for putting together all of this useful content. The info you share on this channel is second to none! Merry Christmas to you too!
@@NRBHD thank you very much, that really means a lot to me and I will do my best to keep it coming! Have a Merry Christmas too!
I know piss takes on a whole new smell after eating a couple portions of asparagus.
@@icuabc1235 the cool thing is that it overwhelming smells like ammonia after 20 minutes or so...
The pee thing is true. More than 20 years ago, I had to pee like a Russian race horse while deer hunting, so I went up the ridge about 50 yards and had a good one. About 30 minutes later, a big doe came over the top of the ridge, went straight to the place that I peed, and stuck her nose right in it. Never flagged, never got excited. She walked past me, to my right, at about 30 yards. I had the scope on her, trying to grow horns on her. She spread out her front legs and dipped her head to give me a clear look. I think she was trying to say, "Look! I ain't got no horns!" It was bucks only then. She walked on down the ridge.
So many or stories, so little time, lol. Really appreciate the feedback! Crazy how convenient peeing in the woods can actually be...thanks for the feedback!
I've peed on the tree while watching bucks near my stand just to see their reaction. They never even blinked an eye. Also poured out tinks doe urine while bucks where in front of me. Also, no reaction. I once bought all the deer hunting crap Wal-Mart has to offer, yet, I'd go to my stand and after a few hours, I saw nothing. But, when I got back to the truck, lit up a cigarette, turned up the radio a little, then, here come the deer, while motley crue is blasting the radio lol.
"here come the deer, while motley crue is blasting the radio"
I thought deer liked Judas Priest better.
@vettelover2009 Myself included !! Also have a 900 yard shooting range on my own property ! Much of the area is covered in trees ! When I started shooting back 5 yrs ago it made my neighbors furious !!!! They reported me to the DNR saying I was shooting deer ! Many times when I was out shooting.... high power .... I seen deer . I also seen the DNR vehicles parked watching me. ( they could see my targets clearly ). Their aim was to catch me ! One day I was out shooting and a few deer crossed my target area. Just so happened the DNR was watching that too. Since I had my ear plugs in...I never heard them come up behind me. They tried to charge with shooting deer ! Be careful with your neighbors .... often they have the same idea..... scaring the deer away because of shooting. They get use to it ! Since then..... Ive never had a run in with the DNR again.
I pay Ronnie James Dio in the woods and all the deer gather around my tree stand. Sometimes I yodel and they like that too
@@hairymanonetwo "They tried to charge with shooting deer ! "
I assume you beat the charges. Did you show them a target and say "Look, I hit what I shoot at"?
@@5000rgb They never charged me with anything..just tried to blame me.suggesting I was shooting deer. They could see the target very clearly.... the same DNR guys had been there several times. Just the neighbors kept turning me in.....hoping Id quit shooting and scaring off the deer. To this day they still turn me in. Thats 5 yrs after I started shooting.
When I come across a dry doe I use Vaseline
MeriKa Tools lolol
#savage
FBI open up!
MeriKa Tools hahahahahaha! Thank You😂
Great video. I haven't been hunting long, a couple of years only. And i mostly hunt roe deer in here in Sweden. What i've found regarding smell is that as long as i don't smell human i can pretty much smell whatever. We usually take a break and gather to grill some sausages at noon after hunting from dawn. And the smell of fire doesn't seem to spook them, i've harvested roe in the afternoon after basically all of us and the countryside smells of fire and smoke.
Also; We hunt buck in august here, and since it's still warm outside i tend to dab on a bit of tar oil to repel insects and mosquitoes, doesn't seem to affect them either. And the first time i took a buck i had climbed down and peed and climbed back up, didn't affect the animals.
What i do strongly believe though is that generic human smell; Perspiration and the like gives them a strong clue as to whats out there. Smoke, fire, pee, and tar and most of those things doesn't give them a strong human association.
Sound though, oh boy are are they sound sensitive. I was out stalking this Wednesday, found a roe doe and some small ones and was figuring that one small one couldn't hurt, i was about 50 meters from it, and when i pulled back the hammer on my lever action, it bolted. Should have pulled it back slower and more silently. It was just *click* and it was gone.
Great feedback Fredrick! Sound is so critical. I think with whitetails they are very smell sensitive, just because they are so ultra conditioned to associate many people smells with humans/hunters. In particular downwind of hunters...it is game over no matter what you smell like.
As far as scent control goes, keeping the wind right is the main ingredient. There is no need to spray the bottom of your boots either. After you take a few steps in the woods, your boots will smell like the woods.
I respectfully disagree! I think it is so important to do Everything you can to eliminate your scent including ozonics! 41 years of hunting has told me that swirling winds nearly always occur and if you can eliminate 90% of your scent it can make a huge difference!! But of course playing the wind is the highest priority!!!
Honestly the scent deal is a near total scam. If they are down wind you are basically in trouble of being busted. When we would trap we would smoke our traps so i smoke my clothing. The smell of smoke is natural and common here in South Florida. You got some great videos, appreciate you sharing your wisdom
I know for sure scent control products do work by watching the reactions of deer that have gotten down wind of me. One opening day I was very clean and everything I had on was clean, a big doe was feeding up the ridge I was sitting on when she got down wind of me at 20 yards her eyes suddenly got wide open as she simultaneously stopped chewing, she then lifted her head and look my direction but she was looking past me like I was further away than I actually was. She decided I was far enough away and did not alarm, she then relaxed and fed on past me.
The wood smoking your clothes trick is a very good scent control for your clothing and has been known for a long time by wise hunters 😊👍
Question, why is smoke common in South Florida where it's warm all year?🤔
@@paulcoenen7918 they control burn management areas here to keep the vegetation lower in the pine forests.
Most important thing is to hunt every day of hunting season at the right time.
I agree with you to a point on scent control, but it is important as most mature bucks will try to get down wind, so if you aren't grunting or rattling it won't matter, but if you do plan to grunt or rattle and you smell like anything out of the ordinary a mature buck will get down wind and scent you.
Great point! The bad thing is that no matter how much scent control you practice...a mature buck will smell you. One of the reasons I don't blind call...but love it when my neighbors do 🙂 Not to mention I find with the pressure around here, most mature bucks do not come in to blind calling...some run the other way.
I must say my friend you're very knowledgeable about deer 🦌. I will be tuning in a lot before the opener this October 1st.
Good luck brother 👍, I'll be getting out there my self
I had a buck walk up to me while I was smoking a cigarette and drinking coffee, after shooting at him and walking around to see if I hit him I sat back down with a cigarette still in my mouth and a 2nd buck walked up behind me that one I got
I took a friend of mine hunting and he wagged a damned metal folding chair into the woods and smoked cigars and drank coffee while hunting with a red plaid shirt and jeans. I told him he wouldn't see anything. He was the only one that killed. He missed with the first shot and dropped it on the second. It changed my whole outlook on "The Scent Commandments" and deer hunting in general..
Everytime I've killed a deer I either have a cigarette lit, or have just put one out. Including the big 9 I shot a few days ago 15yrds from me...as he walked up downwind of me, lmao
Another great video and as always informative. I started using my own urine the last season to open/refreshen scrapes and it seems to work. I also quit worrying about peeing in the woods and I agree I haven’t seen any issues. On scent control, I do all your saying and this year I added an ozone generator for my clothes bag. That seems to work as well and I wash my clothes much less. Generally now only after a harvest since I am not very good keeping them clean during field dressing! I haven’t had any winding issues this year. Thanks again for your videos and Merry Christmas!
Thanks for the feedback Mark...yes, pee away! Lol
It's crazy but I find the older I get the keys I worry about scent control and the more mature bucks I see and shoot per sit. It really boils down to stand location...and of course not leaving a scent trail in and out of the woods! Sounds like you are doing great and have a very sound approach. Merry Christmas to you and yours!
Great video and agree 100 percent with most of. I have been bow hunting since 1977 and have been peeing out of my tree for years. I am a scent free fanatic.Scent free bath, scent free under arm deodorant, Clothes are washed in scent free with no UV brighteners and stored in Hunter Specialties scent free bags, nee high swamper boots and total spray down head to tow and also spray down bow.Nothing I hunt in is anywhere near the public meaning a restaurant or gas station pumping gas in your hunting boots or smelling like bacon. I know if I can walk to my stand and deer can walk in 10 minutes later where I walked and not be on full alert that what I'm doing is working. I believe if you incorporate scent free, being super quiet , go in and out with low impact as you walk and sitting high at a minimum of 25 to 30 feet that it all comes together. Once again great video!!
I have a question about scent control. For the most part, I have seen deer spook because of human scent or maybe predator scent, not so much from let's say a body wash or a perfumed soap. I had a friend call me up one day spur of the moment and ask me to go hunting. I told him iI had just showered and shaved and put cologne on and the deer would smell me a mile away. Well, I decided to go with him anyway. I shot a nice 8 point with the wind blowing right in his face at 75 yards. My theory is that some scents have no effect on deer at all and only threatening scents spook them. What is your opinion?
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Great video! The three finger trick is definitely something I’ll be using while scouting this summer.👍🏻
My Dad has literally had deer walk withing five feet of where he took a dump out of his stand.
This is a special channel. Keep up the great work!
I totally agree on all your points. Very well made and informative video. Thanks!
Thank YOU! That really means a lot to me and I hope it helps!
Great information, been hunting Eastern Whitetail for years and there is always something to learn. Great video of those beautiful critters..are they not wonderful. Sometimes I just watch them in the woods for enjoyment
Agree about human pee. Had to go, and getting back down was going to be loud and slow. Decided to pee off the stand , thought I blew my hunt . Had 3 all over it under me.
Amazing isn't it!? Such an old myth...
Should have watched this a week ago. Didn't want to pee in my blind. Got out peed. Turned around and 3 does were there watching me. Damnit. Thanks
I’ve pissed all morning in the woods, smoke cigarettes, and spit dip everywhere......still kill deer
Plowboy84 Q spike bucks only though.
@@fml5910 set my cigarette down yesterday I shit you not and smoked an 8 pointer while in the stand. even I was surprised..
Easy to do from 200yds with a rifle... Try now at 20yds
Try not to be such a pussy and RUclips stalk a man who has killed more and bigger deer than you’ve ever seen. You people are so stupid, the biggest buck of my life was bedded 50 yards from my house, he had been there, smelling my dogs, cigarettes, beer, tractors running, fuck off internet pussies
I'm guessing not with a bow?
Fred Trost said this years ago in Michigan, was sued by deer scent industry and lost his show.
I absolutely agree with you about the human urine I have peed out of my deer stands for years and I have told my hunting buddies that it makes no difference and a lot of them are very skeptic.
David Abdrnathy agreed totally. Iv peed on a deer when it was under my stand and simply didn’t know where the water was coming from. Dawn of course
@@lylebonney3081😂
I was on the fence about peeing in the woods, I do all day hunts and I got to the point where I couldn’t hold it and wasn’t fond of carrying a bottle of piss around with me. I started clearing a spot under my stand to pee. To test deer reactions I have actually urinated while bucks that I was going to let walk we’re within 100 yards of me. It never phased them, even the sound of pee hitting the bare dirt did not seem to affect them. I had a doe fawn and a year and half old buck actually make their way under the stand after the pee and smell it. I wouldn’t try this with a shooter buck in sight but I feel much more comfortable in all day sits now that I can relieve myself whenever I need.
Ha, great experiences! I say pee away!
Thanks for the comments and Merry Christmas!
Thanks for relating some real-world information! Good stuff I love to hear about! and I still love Indian Buck Lure to put on my cuffs and boots. Smells like a doe in heat that's been eatin' apples. Lured in a perfect 10-point buck with that stuff to an old scrape I doctored up within about 10 minutes!
Thank you very much I truly try! Cool story...doe in heat apple scent, lol...good story!
you just may get run over by a buck.....that's no joking matter....don't put that crap on your clothing
@@DeeMoback I've never had a buck mistake me for a doe in decades.
@@DeeMoback or anywhere else..
Doesn’t matter what you do the best camouflage is being still... Period.
I used a shoot through camo blind as a poncho.
A hugecdoe almost ran into me 😂😂😂
Thanks I hunt in Mississippi some of the hardest bucks u will ever hunt nearly all are nocturnal till the rut
Wow I can think of all the times where I held in my pee for hours while in the blind.
*Thank You*
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great video, didnt know about does having fawns their whole lives, thought they dried up around 6 or 7 , scent is tricky, rarely does it ever blow in a consistent direction, especially in the mountains, i keep as scent free as possible, especially being a bow hunter. Rifle hunters can get away with a little more stink....
Mountains are really tough...but even then hunting points, sides and tops can be fairly certain depending on the main wind direction and time of day. Bad thing about mountains or even big hills...is the bad scent it takes to actually get into place. You learn to hunt the wind religiously for sure...hard to control the accumulation not access scent when you are climbing 20 minutes to a 1/2 hour or more, up to a stand location.
Thanks a lot Frank... really appreciate the feedback!
(I was told by my grandpa), always walk threw the barn first. You know like threw poop works great (still do) (COW POOP) .
For best results roll in it
Especially if that same barn and poop smell is in the woods you hunt and the deer are used to it.
Humming birds come and investigate when I pee outside. They get really close. Nervous for me close lol. Love y'all.
Nervous why? Cause that hummingbird has a bigger womb broom
2:48 U.P. Shout out gonna have to give a like for that
Ha, for sure...actually in the UP right now as I type 😉 love it up here. Thanks for the like!
I agree with everything besides the dry doe thing, one of hunting camps we had a doe 3 years hand running with no fawn. Unless she was dying for 3 years.
Excellent points. Although I believe that sprays for scent removal are a waste of money.
The thing with the dew claws really helped me
3:13 woah there, those deer making out!
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I used to carry a pee bottle up into my stand. I forgot it one time when I went in light packed and wouldn't you know it, but right at prime time, I had to go. So I peed off the back of my stand thinking maybe the deer won't catch wind of it since it was downwind. Nope I had a deer come in downwind and walked right over to where I peed. Sniffed the wet leaves and continued on out in front of me unalarmed. Never worried about it again.
Well up until now, I’ve DEFINITELY been carrying a large empty Gatorade bottle in my bag to piss in.
Ive tried the whole scent thing, had mixed results, went to more traditional methods, both clean and not so clean (week or two long in woods with no bathing available). key things, keep your sweat smell to a minimum, wipe pits, crotch, between cheeks, and keep feet air dried when not in the hunt, covered during. if bathing use no modern products (including fragrance free). then smoke outer clothing (at least the outer), smoke in hair if you are a long hair like myself. Ive had deer walk up to within 10 ft of me on level ground, watched them eat, wonder around, walk away, no spooking them.
Almost consistently all of the stories I’ve heard from hunters over the years seem to be they took their biggest bucks while they were not expecting it, for example walking back to the truck or putting your equipment away in the truck and standing around talking smoking cigarettes and not really paying attention. But then you have those who live by these rituals and rules that never even see a buck or a doe. I’ve heard guys who cut timber swear to the fact that as they are running their chainsaws they spot some of the biggest bucks I’ve ever seen and they claim the noise of the chainsaw attract the attention of the buck who is curious to find out what is going on. So the best advice is as with everything, stop wasting your money, stop listening to so-called experts, and just go out and have fun the way it’s meant to be. Because if you’re not having fun first of all you’re doing it wrong. Hunting shouldn’t be a job or exertion I’ll take a whole lot of thinking, just walk out into the woods find you a spot to sit down my tree stay quiet wait for the squirrels and have fun
Sevin Storey I’m a logger I run a skidded for my crew and we see deer all the time deer are very curious creatures and will come investigate noise!
I use a fully enclosed blind no need to worry about scent. But even when I used a tree stand I never used scent cover ups and never had a issue filling tags.
I have always used a bag of leafs and put my hunting clothes and boots in it after every use for the duration of the season, wash only with water a few days before dont smoke,chew gum or use anything scented......Its worked for me with no stand!.
Pissed off my tree stand for ever and shot deer off the same stand … I do use cover scent , had deer close enough to touch when I hunted on the ground ...
Great feedback and me too... haven't ever predators in a bottle since 1985...and have killed a LOT of whitetail! Really huge myth out there...
What about poo ? Do I need to keep storing it in the backpacks of whoever I am hunting with ?
Always carry a poo bottle with you
@@mattconnelly6989 A bottle ? That is not right when I chuck my poo at someone giving me angry lip I think it is a little to much to break glass on their face with the poo in it. The poo stops their mouth fine. Just the poo going into their crowing mouth shuts them up and they start hacking. I leave saying DO NOT FORGET TO PACK OUT THAT HACK !
No. But you should remove any sharp peanuts that could tear the bag.
@@visamedic I can see that being a good thing but I am not very interested in that job. If I do not have to throw it and not with someone packing theirs to add mine to I bury it. The problem with poo outdoors far from pavement or in the city is not the people in most places. It is the animals ! They have no decency to bury their poo or even wipe. They will drop on trails and roads too. I heard of a bear that asked a rabbit if poo stayed stuck on his fur and the rabbit said no, The bear grabbed the rabbit and wiped with it and tossed it away from him. I sometimes drop mine at night in front of a poo preachers tent. I leave a note saying its on your feet pack it out please.
I also just grab a lil pine sawdust out of the saw at work and their in a lil baggie for scent n usr it fit wind directions
While I don't think the sawdust will help you avoid a mature deer downwind...pretty cool wind direction idea! I leaned to blow bubbles from my mouth years ago as a kid sitting in the balcony at church. Yes we got in trouble, lol. BUT a skill I still use to this day for wind direction...
I've been hunting and watching deer for years
I have actually took a crap 40 feet from a stand and had a doe walk between the stand and the crap within 20 minutes. As for sent I think its what's around you. On my land in southwest Texas there are cedar trees, I run cedar berries in my hands and clothes. When I hunt Brewster county I run on sage from the plants there. In my protein feeders I mix 15% protein with horse and mule feed for the sweetness it seems to help keep deer healthy
Here's a 6 myth for you."When it's cold, deer need a lot of feed to keep warm."
It seems to make sense, but after 15 years of hand feeding captive deer, it is not true.
I remember Reading Leonard Lee Rue years ago, and he was one of the few deer experts that claimed deer eat less in cold weather, and he was right.
Some days when it was extremely cold, my pen deer would barely eat, even though they had the best feed and water readily available.
It's a fact that doesn't really help bag a Buck, but it is true, and it always bugs me when I hear these so called experts explaining how many more calories deer need in the cold.
They bed on the coldest portion of the day...sometimes all night they move and consume very little. However...this only applies to extreme cold, as well as extended cold periods. Up here in WI and MI where I hunt deer react incredibly well to cold fronts...right after the front, sometimes during and a little before the front.
Also, deer feed 5 times as rhythmic patter feeders. What I find in natural deer herds is that if feedings are missed deer become hungry. Bitter cold mornings mean late morning and mid day browsing...which creates exceptional opportunity for hunters that have the skill set to get close to bedded whitetails on a morning hunt, where they enter at daybreak and wait for deer to browse on nearby woody Regen, briars, shrub tips and other day time feeding areas. Bitter cold can be a blessing when you apply appropriate hunting tactics...which is what my latest book, All Weather Whitetails is all about ;)
Whitetail Habitat Solutions where in Michigan do you hunt?
@@ChangGangBam on public land... central UP. Are you from MI? I have lived in WI for over 6 years and hunted MI this year for just a day and a 1/2. Miss the swamps and marshes where I like to hunt! Lived in MI the first 42 years of my life...right around 30 seasons total. Grew up in Oakland county...first hunted around Pontiac Lake Recreation area.
Whitetail Habitat Solutions personally I live in northern macomb county, just east of where you grew up haha. I hunt in the eastern central region of the upper peninsula. Near a small town named Rudyard, 120 acres adjacent to the Hiawatha has brought our deer camp plenty of nice sized bucks. This past year the deer have been great size. But for about the 8 years before that the deer population has been on the decline and the buck size definitely showed it... awesome videos. I watch everyone with an hour of upload!!! Happy hunting
@@ChangGangBam I really appreciate you watching! I am closer to Munising...I actually lived in that area for 14 years. I have even had clients near Rudyard...know the area really well! Some great areas around there and more deer that in the area I hunt. Hoping for a light Winter up there! Doesn't seem bad so far...
I would mostly agree with your video except for the very last point and I wouldn't totally disagree. Because excessive sound isn't going to help you any. but little sounds I don't think they're going to hurt you as much as you portrayed I believe deer are naturally way more Curious than they are scared.
My father in law says that running a chainsaw bothers the deer i was cutting came out at 5 for dinner and he shot a buck shortly after that with his bow
Thanks for solving my pee delema!!! I've been trying to figger this one out for years. Still not 100% sure, but coming from you it's probably pretty solid advice. As I get older I find myself doing it more anyway!! Though I'll miss that warm bottle on cold days!!... Myles Keller, there's a name I haven't heard in years!!!...An all time great...Very helpful video, Thank You.... :>)>
Awesome vid! You have inspired me to create my own outdoor channel!
Good information but I find it easier to walk out the front door with a cup of coffee and pick the one I want.
Ha, too easy...but very relaxing!
Jeff,. I think I may have come across alittle to harsh or "matter of fact". I think part of the problem is that I watch ALL of your stuff....so I hear it Alot.!!! Haha Probably my bad. I agree with SO VERY MUCH of what you say and teach.!!! ..some of it I don't completely....but only because of where I often hunt or some experiences....but that's normal.!! As we all know....Every parcel hunts different....in fact every big buck hunts differently too. If only because of their personalities. But there is No Doubt that there are solid trends and you know MANY of them !!! I'm sure you'll agree that being "Flexible" is probably one of the most important things we need to do as deer/land managers and hunters. I've been lucky enough to own and hunt several amazing parcels....in a place you know well... Buffalo Co. You know, the place where there's a Booner in every Valley. Haha. I've also been fortunate enough to hunt and have property in Iowa & Kansas and if there's one thing that has taught me is they are 3 Completely different worlds.!!!....Hence the Flexibility concept. I've been lucky enough to bowhunt all over North America and abroad and the concept of being flexible is Paramount in even doing those hunts. So I definitely can appreciate your vast experience having done what you do in many different areas/states. I too do what you do ( to a degree) ....mainly as a hobby or just because it's my passion....not as my main career. I can see and enjoy your passion for what you do.!! In my travels I have been fortunate enough to meet literally Dozens and dozens of Incredible deer hunters, land managers, outfitters and habitat stewards....and I will say I probably agree with and appreciate your view more than almost all.... especially the "famous" celebrity ones. I absolutely think WE ALL can learn from each other and there is absolutely no "one right way". Anyway, thanks for your response and hopefully we can meet one day. And hey, At least you shoot Mathews.!!! Haha
Man I want to get one this season
Did you get it?
very educational thank you for posting...appreciate it
Awesome awesome video Jeff! Love your tips. I believed a couple of these haha God bless you and looking forward to more! -Curt
Thanks a lot Curt...really appreciate your comments and feedback! "Believed a couple", ha...we all have! I will try to keep them coming for sure...shooting a few more today actually 🙂
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@@ridgeraisedoutdoors thank you!
Pee was used as an attraction by my teacher. He always had a bottle of doe estrogen and pour a few drops on his urine, bucks went crazy just because of the estrogen.
It would be interesting to know how long that estrogen scent lasted in urine...I have heard, not very long at all 😉
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Urine breaks down fast, and the estrogen makes it appealing.
Thank you, great video. I'm curious, what was tip #6? And my experience even with pressured deer, pee away they seem more curious than anything, even about the sprinkler sound on the dry leaves.
Thanks a lot Micheal! Man they sure are curious. I have a lot more when I include my habitat myths...but the color of the antlers is caused by the sun or lack of...and buck poop doesn't clump vs doe poop. The size of the pellet is different at times...but for an extreme thought, if any deer ate Mexican food there poop wouldn't be clumped, lol
Have a Merry Christmas!
I'm not sure about this pee or don't pee thing, but I always bring a pee bottle to the stand with me.
I have never peed off the stand...always in a bottle, less noise this way also.
But...I do know there is one 'pee' rule of deer hunting you never break.
NEVER DRINK FROM THE LEFT-OVER YELLOW GATORADE BOTTLE IN THE STAND!!!!
Ha Canaan, yes never drink it, lol. But in reality too...WAY less movement and noise just standing up and peeing, vs having to get a bottle out of a pack, opening up the backpack, peeing into it and then putting it back.
Unfortunately I hve made that mistake before , wrong DRINK!! LOL wasnt too bad atleast and it was mine haha. I spit it all over my buddy
As far as urine goes I have Two questions. What about using doe urine during rut? It lasts for only 20 minutes ? The other thing is that I watch survival shows on tv. Some of the people urinate around their shelters to keep predators away . So this does not work ?
I think there are some great stories that they make on TV 😉
But think if this...bucks rarely sniff the dirt of the actual scrape. In fact I can't find one piece of footage from thousands...to show that they do. However, what they focus on is the pre orbital gland scent left on the licking branch or vine from sometimes dozens of deer...does, fawns and bucks.
In personally have experienced that deer in general are a lot less focused on urine than hunters think.
I hope that helps? But great question and I appreciate it!
Excellent video! Was wondering about peeing in the woods. And I totally agree about scent control!
What about a campfire...say you sat around the campfire....would that smell affect them?
I believe so. Deer have the ability to smell the ingredients in bread...not just the bread.
The real important scent to control is your scent trail in and out of a stand location. Of deer associate a campfire with a hunting camp, people, humans, etc...it could come back to bite a hunter, in particular with an older buck that has been around awhile...
Merry Christmas Jeff from my family to your hope all is well have a fun and safe holiday can't eat to see some more videos
Thank you very much Rob, Merry Christmas to you and yours too! I will have another one in the morning...hope you like it!
First off , I just want to say I enjoy the videos. I have hunted all over Missouri and now I have my own property. I have to disagree about peeing on the ground. I know everyone has their own opinion. I have been hunting for 40 years and when I started out I was young and would pee by my treestand before I climb up. I have seen does come up and sniff and walk away but I have had monster bucks walk close and blow , stomp, and run off. Never saw them again. Ive also noticed that deer act differently in different areas. But I know peeing has messed me up on nice bucks before. Since I quit doing it I have had excellent hunts. I also get high up in a tree with good cover and use wind direction in my favor. Ive never used scent lock or any spray. Ive also shot Mathews for 30 years. My fiirst one was an MQ32😂😂😂
Schaffer's Outdoor adventures I actually pee in scrapes and have trail cam videos of bucks tearing up the scrape after I’ve peed in it.
Dude I took a crap in the woods and a buck still walk out In front of me
Not sure I'm totally on board with the noise being that critical. I think it depends on where you are hunting. If you are in a wilderness area where deer have low human contact then absolutely, metallic noise is poison. But if you are hunting in farm country or especially a suburban area where people live within a few hundred yards of most of your hunting area, deer tend to build up a tolerance for some noise. So a deer 200 yards away may not be affected by a squeak or ting of metal. I think a deer 50 yards away would definitely "go on alert" and might move off.
Hey Jeff. Really enjoy all your content. I was just wondering what release do you use?
Hi Jay I really appreciate that! I use a Scott, caliper grip release. I just hang a small rope from it and tie it around my wrist. Been using one like this since the mid 90s...
As far as where the bucks bed I've found the younger bucks bed behind the does , but the big old bruiser bucks bed in grounds with the best sight / scent advantage nearest a water source .
Being quiet and not moving in stand are just as important as scent control. That being said, we smell to a deer on the same order of magnitude as a skunk smells to us. So if the wind is wrong you're going to be winded if the deer is close enough. That's not to say I don't try to mitigate this by keeping my clothes outside, showering with scent control soap, and using sprays.
This guy's the best. Hopefully he will take me hunting some day ;)
Well I really appreciate your comment...thank you and Have a Merry Christmas!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Thank You! Have a successful new year & keep up the great work! We all appreciate & enjoy it
@@KeepinYouUp07 thank you and happy new year! I will definitely try to keep them coming...
Thanks for another great video. I really enjoy them. Question for you on the whole peeing thing. Since all urine turns to ammonia is a short period of time, I’m assuming all the doe in heat urine products are useless???
Thank you very much James. I'm not going to say that all doe in heat products are useless...but I will say it has been at least 15 years since I have used one 🙂
Have a Merry Christmas!
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Merry Christmas to you! Thank you.
@@it_is_finished you are very welcome and thank you!
I been using scentlok and I'm sold.
We have a lot of noise in our hunting area. Houses 500 yards away at our backs. Roads 1/4 mile away. Dogs barking, school buss beep, beep, beep..
The power lines make a constant buzz. The deer seem to come in to our food plot at the end of the day as the sun is setting.
I may start to pee off the stand. The whole bottle thing is a pain in the ass.
Do you use Climbing Stands...if not why?
Dillion Balentine
He has said before that he only uses climbers when he had no other option. He says they make to much noise.
Hi Dillion...great question! I do use them, but only as a necessary evil. Too much noise for the small parcels that I hunt. I like to have everything pre planned too. I have used them on private land...typically once every couple of years, but not since 2014 that I can remember. I do use them on public land as my preferred option over sticks and hangons or sticks and a tree saddle.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I'm only 15 right now I have learned that putting the stand out a day or two in advanced is a life savor...I have never tried the sticks to they work pretty good?
@@dillionbalentine7482 great to hear and thanks for watching...I hope the info helps! I didn't have all of this stuff to learn from when I was your age...no one in my family hunted. Just my 13 year old brother and I...we started when I was 15 at least for deer.
I like the climber over sticks....unless the sticks are pretty hung typically before the season. At least the climber keeps you mobile and I know at 15 I couldn't afford a bunch of pre hung treestands. Although I built my collection slowly over the years with Christmas and Bday presents 🙂
Good luck and have a Merry Christmas Dillion!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Merry Christmas to you and your Family!
Big fan of the channel, any thoughts on black bows in tree stand or spot and stalk. I know there is a benefit in ground blind but is a camo bow needed for hunting. Merry christmas
Great question and I would prefer a camo bow for stalking...I don't think it would make a difference in the stand. While any solid color would seem to be a disadvantage to me, I don't think a bow in a treestands is bad at all...probably looks like a branch to a deer. On the ground I can see it sticking out more but so skinny...who knows for sure! I prefer camo but I have shot deer with black limbs from treestands just the same
Thank you and merry Christmas to you too!
SOUND is absolute. I live next to a national forest and deer are thick ... then the hunting season arrives and vehicle doors slam and people talk (strangers) next to their autos. Bingo, the deer are trained and go 100% nocturnal.
Sound is so critical...finding the locations on public land that experience the lowest levels of sound will often lead you smack dab into daylight deer movement...
ROTTEN LEAVES AND DIRT IS THE BEST COVER SCENT. THATS ALL IVE EVER USED JUST GRAB A HANDFULL AND RUB IT IN.
I always dug a small hole and peed into it and covered the hole with rotten leaves.
Lonnie Richardson
Me too.
I like to rub dirt into my hands for cover scent and it seems deer are attracted to freshly dug up earth.
Plenty of times I’ve had deer come and sniff around a patch of ground that I scraped the leaves away from near my stand.
Pine needles work well also.
I gotta go pee now...
Me too! Lol
Do you go to other properties and help pick out stand placement?
Josh, one if the things I do as a part of my career...designing whitetail hunting parcels. Roughly 70 parcels per year.
www.whitetailhabitatsolutions.com/services
I have picked out more than 10,000 stand locations for clients since 2005 🙂 Among other things that I design for them...
I feel that scent is important however i spray down. Keep clothes seperate from everything else probably only washed em 2 times every 10 yrs lol and see good deer every yr
Ha, that's not s lot of washing, lol! Scent is very important but I bet you play the wind very well and I believe that is so critical. Far too many grossly underestimate scent in the stand...and that you really can't keep your scent from mature deer downwind. It takes hunting smart and positioning your stand smart...and of course not leaving scent control in your access.
Great points flushot!
My stand is set up in a good spot and i get first dibs basically have all to my self and i dont like to hunt my stand till it starts to get good last weekend of October i always feel like your first chance at him is your best chance
@@flushot6513 so True, great point! Roughly 20 of my mature bucks have been shot using the stand for the first time...
When I hunted in the UP of Michigan, I always tried to use spruce trees for stand locations. Then I would keep my clothes in a tote jam packed with spruce boughs. Never had an issue with scent control (and my clothes smelled wonderful). Now I hunt Southern Michigan farmland, where scent control is much trickier due to the open terrain and lack of conifers. An ozone duffle bag works incredibly well, as do the new radial ozone generators that you can hang in the tree (although they seem a little noisy)...but the video is on point about sound. One seemingly insignificant "ting" while climbing into a stand can be catastrophic, because all it takes is for one deer to become alarmed and it may blow every deer out of the area. A spooked deer is like the start of a row of dominoes...all it takes is one and a chain reaction ensues.
Great video. Very classic and sound info. Thanks:)
Thanks a lot Scott that means a lot to me! I hope that you like all of the rest too. My playlists are probably the best way to find the exact videos that you want to watch first. Really appreciate it!
Wonder why when these professionals give hunting advise they assume you have 500 acres? Wth?
I think you are the one assuming I'm assuming 😉 I hunt 25 acres, 52 acres and a 40. They range in cover from 8 to 30 acres. All small parcel stuff on this channel...or public land. If you were referring to this channel or me personally, you need to pay attention more.
Rub his nose in it
We use shooting buildings mostly. The land owner would get pissed if I pee inside. Not going to open the door to pee. Sometimes pee bottles are a must.
I have been smoking in my blind or tree stand all my life. Shot more big bucks smoking then my friends that uses all the scent cover up
Dean I hear you ..once on stand it shouldn't matter if your stand is located well. For sure! Of course a hunter has to have a very clean scent trail for accessing and departing a stand tho...
Just imagine how many more you would have shot if you didn't smoke up there.
@@nickterbrack136 the good thing about any scent is if you are playing the wind it doesn't hurt you on stand. Now the scent trail in and out...that's the tough one!
Someone I know put a hollow pipe in the middle of a field,every time he went out,he would light 1 whole pack of cigarettes even tho he didn't smoke ,and let em burn,he shot so many deer doing that it wasn't even funny
@@donttreadonmeoutdoors7574 ha, pretty funny! I know it time around here in a high pressure area o would suspect the deer would be conditioned that every time they smelled cigarette smoke anywhere in the neighborhood they would know it was a hunter - at least mature whitetails!
This is tha 1st year that I have ever used a horizontal rub. I made it from ceder trees. I had great success using this tactic. Have u ever used a horizontal rub.
Shawn I have seen dozens of horizontal rubs...mostly just fad. I have seen a lot that don't work but a rub in a deers world isn't something that directs traffic every day. For example most buck rubs are visited by the buck that made them, only at the time they made them. If you add them to a food plot they may get visited mote frequent...but not something bucks will go out of their way for.
Just not a fan of any rubbing tree additions or horizontal rubs because the most use I have seen in them is at a food source, where they were already going in the first place.
I hope that makes sense...but I would suspect on average deer visit a scrape roughly 50-100 times more than they visit a particular rub. And it could be hundreds more.
Sorry to be so direct in that Shawn but I have seen so many of them NOT work...even clients who shied away from telling me about them because they spent s lot of time on them and they didn't work. They felt like they fell for a fad.
Check out this video I did...you probably saw it but I hope it helps! Let me know what you think...
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Whitetail Habitat Solutions Great video. Thanks for tha information on whitetails
@@shawnmyers700 you are very welcome Shawn I hope that it helps!