Russia’s war on Ukraine: No strategy in the West? | To the Point
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Two years after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, its troops are surging on multiple fronts, while a dwindling supply of Western weapons and munitions leaves Ukraine outgunned. Countries on NATO’s eastern flank are stepping up warnings that a victorious Russia might come for them next…while the death of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny served as a reminder that Vladimir Putin knows few scruples. Will the West hear his call to keep up the fight? We are asking: "Russia’s War On Ukraine: No Strategy in the West?"
Our guests:
Sabine Adler, Deutschlandfunk
Rafael Loss, European Council on Foreign Relations
Roman Gonscharenko, DW
Chapters:
00:00 Opener
01:50 The Situation in Ukraine is very critical
02:55 The fall of Avdiivka is a hard blow for Ukraine
04:11 Ukraine is digging in now
06:20 Still a stalemate or are things turning in favor of Russia?
08:30 Video: The fall of Avdiivka - what signal does it send?
10:00 How long can Ukraine hold out?
12:40 Western support is dwindling
13:00 Can Germany make up for the gaps the US leaves?
14:30 Fewer Russian drones and rockets are being intercepted by Ukraine
15:00 Public opinion in Germany is changing - in favor of more support for Ukraine
16:15 Stepping up military efforts at the expense of social benefits
17:30 Growing pressure for Zelenskyy to negotiate?
18:45 A NATO fast track membership for Ukraine?
20:10 Video: Death of Navalny - can the resistance endure?
22:30 Russia is a mafia state
23:30 Navalny’s death, a clear signal to the West
24:50 Does Putin have an appetite for more?
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German Parliament has voted today against sending Taurus to Ukraine.
Germany is terrified of Putin and only sends average weapons to Ukraine, not what's actually needed to make a difference.
@@Purple_flower09 What really makes a difference is that Ukraine has no soldiers any more!
They should talk about peace and not weapons ...
but why? aren't they playing the role of big brother anymore?
@@eddastrohmayer251why? They will never have z better chance to escape Russia's influence and join the west. They know this, so they won't give up. If they give up, they will have no future. Who wants to be a poor slave in a mafia state when they could be like poland or Finland in 25 years.
Parliament votes were overwhelming. Fortunately.
European are still living in their bubble while people around have been sharpening their sword for quite sometime.
@@randyraudi7725shocking response :/
@@jason9766 Shocking is that there are people who expect me to die for this lying and degenerated society.
Absolutely correct
@@randyraudi7725 Go out more and talk to people. I live in Europe and nothing about what you are stating is true. Unless you analyze the reality through youtube. Seriously, go out and talk to your fellow human beings.
Sorry, your statement is vague and false, but we can all misperceive without enough knowledge of history !
None of these analysts live in reality
But you are, of course. Please, Go live and enlighten us with your professionality 😂
So you still think Russia is losing? Sorry to bust your bubble but without West support, Ukraine will lose and collapse. It's a shame Ukraine is beautiful country but Russia has to spoil it.
Correct. They are even afraid. Still.
@@NotUnymous You are Ratio'd a small squeak in the big internet
These experrts are all full of shlt. Russia is a superpower. They haven't even use their top notch super weapons. If russia wants to turn kyev to rubble that will be a easy task for them. Stop lying to world.
Russia has increased their shovel production
After two years of bloody war and grand strategies from our top of notch experts, they've come to realize that Russia is a huge place with lots of resources. Well, I be damned.
Man, 15 years of literal SCREAMING to Westernoids about Nord Stream.
What do you expect?
You really have to question qualifications and intelligence of the people they bring on at times 😂
Those with an understanding of history knew full well how this was going to play out. Russia if fighting this war World War 2 style, and they will win regardless of how many casualties it costs them.
@@mourka01 it reflects how dumb societies are. In 2021 70% of Germans did not see Nord Stream as a danger.
Some nations just never learn.
@@krzywygeneralno more cheap energy, no more industrial nation.
I love these experts, they are the reflection of the Western leadership mindset.
They only see things at the tactical level.
And have the gift of being wrong about everything
There's no experts! Just spinners.
I agree. they cant see anything except their own blinkered perspective and dont care about anything or anybody else
They are not even tactically schooled. They see the world in context of previous news articles. If the EU once announced 1 million artillery shells and the actual number produced is lower, then everything is doom and gloom and Ukraine can’t possibly win. Same with this useless Taurus debate. Scholz said "nein" many months ago, but they can’t stop talking about it as if it decided about victory or defeat. Everybody knew Leopard 2 can’t be a "game changer" in an artillery war, but one picture of a destroyed Western tank and Russia is unstoppable!
A year ago DW was talking about Leopards, now talking about F16s . . . :)
They are all talking about f16 for more than a year now
@@lukazupie7220 they sayd last summer that in the end of 23 f16 will arrive.. Now they say 24 summer..
Yea f16 are not gonna do anything. If they dont get shut down by defense systems then russian superior aircraft will take care of them
Was the animal Leopard
By the end of this year they’ll have nothing to talk about. Bunch of clowns.😂
The USA is here for a good time, not a long time
As the German FM says, Ukrainian interestes comes first, even if at the cost of German interests.
That why blocked aid to ukraine
DW 2022: Russia has exhausted their entire supply of artillery and soldiers
DW 2024: Russia is cutting through the UA, and going to make it all the way to Poland !
Nope, sorry but Russia can't.
Here's why. The Canadian Government is spending $30 million to help get this done:
Although the details are still being finalized, defence sources say the federal government could contribute as much as $30 million to the plan, which was proposed at the opening of the Munich Security conference by Czech Republic President Petr Pavel.
Pavel's government said it has been able to source up to 800,000 shells of NATO-standard calibre, along with shells of other calibres, from unidentified, non-NATO countries. It says it needs financial support to get the ammunition to Ukraine.
Plus 800 high tech drones coming by spring.
I cant believe people let them convince them that a nuclear power was gonna lose to Ukraine.
@@ninemoonplanet You don't understand, Ukraine's real problem is the soldiers who are running out, not just the ammunition. A nation that is winning certainly does not need to desperately recruit 500,000 new soldiers after having already sent women, old people and semi-invalids to the front.
@ninemoonplanet we shall wait and see, these promises were also made a year ago.
Avdiika is the new Stalingrad? No wonder the Germans are panicking 😅
Nobody is panicking because it's done already. Germany is trying to move from an almost pacifistic country after WWII to a military powerhouse.... I am sure that in 5 to 10 years every body is complaining again that Germany is too dominant as a military power in Europe.
@@klausschumacher7126its a bad move for them on becoming a pacifist country. no one fears a pacifist. 😂
By everybody you mean the Brits and the Poles I guess.@@klausschumacher7126
@@klausschumacher7126 Germany wasn't pacifist following WW2. That's just myth making.
@@nickz2000Germany didn‘t want to be feared anymore
The thin line between entertainment and war
The frontline is everywhere
There be no shelter here. - Rage against the machine.
Bots are everywhere
unfortunately Rage against the machine joined the machine they were so long ago protesting about LOL
did the ukrainian counter offensive reach crimea yet ?
No it’s at the gates of Moscow
According to general Hodges yes, and it’s also taken Moscow.😀
It's in Vladivostok already.
Are ya winning son?
Lets not act like Russia is any better with their predictions👍😁
Everything Ukraine has needed to repell the Russian aggression has been supplied either way late or in smaller than adequate amounts. This strategy is not effective.
The ATCM's I thought were settled last fall but none have been sent. Same story with the German Taurus missiles. The F-16 discussion has gone on for so long I can't remember when it began.
If you could call it a straregy, it is a strategy of killing time while your life is under threat.
When local Ukraine- Russia war began 2 yrs. ago. Chinese said: USA started war because: 1.destroy Russia from war. 2.destroy Europe economys from high energys price. 3.destroy EURO to unrival USdollar.
USA has to prolong war as long as possible by send weapons +money to Ukraine using as battle field (Viet.2).
Chinese said it up to Europe politicians know USA's tricks +how smart to solve problems.
American worldwide aggression must be stopped.
Could anyone explain the horrendous strategy's? I'm an average joe but the stuff I hear drives me mad! surely incompetence can't be the leading cause, I'd rather a dodgy plot at least there's something to it however bad that sounds I'd rather that over what seems to be straight up stupidity
It seems like Russia knows what she is doing ... that's the assessment. West is here and there, Ukraine being one of many playgrounds.
Playgrouns is actually bigger eu?
Russia knows what they are doing? They are basically using a tactic that is soon 100 years old. The offensive they had at the start of the war showed them trying to fight a modern war, we all know how that went. If Russia had met someone that know how to use the sky and can establish air superiority, they would be crushed. The way they are fighting is so outdated its almost embarrassing.
Taiwan is the next playground
@@wolfswinkel8906Wont happen US is weaken..China strong
> Russia knows what she is doing
ah really? I remember Russia started a war trying occupy Kiev with police only. This war is not about Russia, its about (missing) west support for Ukraine
DW tires ppl with this silly narrative....
These analytics sound like little kids. No logic or strategy were detected in the interview 😅
UHHH UUHHHH UHUUUHHHMM UUUUUHHHHHHHHHH
It sounds like as if you are talking about the whole NATO.
Western strategy is to rob the taxpayers money and funnel into the elites bank accounts 🌟🌟
the whole west are kids you mean i quess
Bot echo chamber at its finest. Bot 1 talking to Bot 2 to Bot 3. YT, wake up, your comment section is dead.
We should not forget that the economy of Russia is about or smaller than that of Holland.
😂😅
And you believe in it?
Then think about the average GDP of Afghanistan in the years 2001-2021. The Taliban are laughing at your reasoning.
Give your figures and the year those figures were generated.
If you dare. 🤭
Yet another 'keyboard Strategist!' Just don't forget to pay your sky-high energy bills since you 'seem' to have the money!
Problem is that stuff in Russia is a lot cheaper too. Also, their economy is more similar to Italy.
the last time Germany provoked Russia was not good times,
First time I'm hearing of a "strategic town"😂
Oh my god, it’s not literal rocket science. Tax corporations as much as teachers and close loopholes. Fund schools with these taxes and create citizens who can think for themselves to abstain from war or develop the tools to fight and win it if need be.
Lol another expert😁
You don’t need to “think for yourself” to abstain from war. It’s called pacifism. The factors and complexities that lead to and ignite war, are not grounded on whether or not people “think for themselves”. What a naive and juvenile understanding of the world 😂
@@a.nelprober-rl5cf AI has taken all the jobs in my area that pay enough for rent. My options are: become homeless, move or join the military. It’s impossible to be pacifist In an economy that has become militarized against citizens.
But they need money for rocket science... for war.
@@stchaltin sound like not only is homelessness impossible, but so is moving… interesting! And all that in one of the richest nations in the world probably, correct? I guess when Somali pirates will kidnap your family you will offer your full understanding bcs their situation was probably even a little bit worse than yours? Well you are not a hypocrite so ofc you would understand. 👍
When has had the USA a strategy?
It remembers me on general Custer in Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian. When he is asked, if he has got a plan, he answers, we Americans have never a plan, we just act.
I would believe this aspect of America. They went to Vietnam without a plan, Afghanistan- same, Libya also same; hence the chaotic way they pull out and the utter chaos they leave behind.
Never seriously thought about this. Now, they have Ukraine in their hands with no clear strategy in sight. Would it be that they would pull out again in chaos? I hope not!!!
@@syl-brianskamara1850 Murca always abandons everyone when they no longer see profit in it
Zelensky is like the Ukrainian Nikita Kruschev in Enemy At the Gate, when the general told him he had already lost 1/2 his men, replied "I don't care. Lose the other 1/2".
"America is so good in waging war because war is chaos, and Americans practice chaos on a daily basis" Karl Doenitz
outgunned by shovel ???? 😂😂😂
There was never a stalemate. Ukraine was on the counter and the lines did not move, meaning they lost. Now Russia are on the move and Ukraine is retreating. No need to use fancy words
You lost me , when the "expert " stated 60 thousand dead russian soldiers in Avdeevka . I thought Avdeevka was a rout , the ukrainian forces run away , leaving behind wounded and rear guard soldiers , being shelled on the way out . How can during such a situation Russians have lost 60 thousand soldiers ? You people say anything to get your contractor's fees from DW and goodness knows who else .
I think he said sixteen thousand. Although the usual number I hear is thirty thousand.
16 thousand, and this was a quote directly from Russian sources. And it's believable. They threw waves of men at the city for months.
Russia lost minimum 16 000 soldiers KILLED near Avdeevka. With wounded it might reach 60 000 casualties.
@@NurBulland the guy who published the 16 k dead soldiers committed suicide by shooting himself 4 times in the back.... Sudden death a la KGB...
@@klausschumacher7126what was the name of that blogger? What was his source? Why do Russian casulty numbers in western media differ so much from BBC funded media zona?
Ask france to do very more ...
2022: Ukraine is Winning the War, they repelled Russia Attack in Kiev!
2023: Ukraine needs all the support, Russia's Stock reverse is severely depleted, They are out of Tanks, Guns, missiles
2024: Ukraine winning the war by loosing more territory that are not of strategic importance!
all they do is win win win no matter what
Russia losing epically
That’s the MSM narrative. And like with all things MSM related it’s 100% BS.
Don't forget the Russian economy is in tatters. Must be so, Van der lying said so.
2024: Russian trolls still trolling.
Look at their faces. You can clearly see the fear in their faces. For two years they were enjoying a reality show. Now they have realized the fun time is over and the Russian bear is charging towards them.
The refocus on destroyed Crimean ships to divert discussion on avdivka feels like coping. I mean even Russia knows that their airforce and Navy are incomparably subpar to NATO. The best they can do is maybe slow them down in an actual fight. Russian ships hit with NATO weapons with NATO provided intelligence and targeting information are pale in comparison with what is happening in the front and honestly feels more like a PR attempt than anything else.
Russia is a land power. That is the reason for the enormous amount of artillery and armor. That is why Ukraine will never win without direct NATO intervention.
And direct NATO intervention would mean global nuclear war, Putin was clear in his speeches.
Russian air force subpar with NATO, 🤣🤣🤣
You can't be serious right.
Russian pilots have been fighting combat missions every single day for the last 2 years in contested air space covered with layers of air defense.
NATO pilots have absolutely no experience in fighting against integrated air defenses the likes Russia has.
Russian pilots have found and mastered the barriers and limitations of their aircraft and themselves.
They are battle hardened fighters with hours sod combat hours under their belt.
Their ground maintenance crews are well oiled machines.
Most of NATO pilots have never shot a bullet in anger.
Their bases and maintenance crews don't know what is to experience being bombed and fighting without air superiority and no communications.
Their tactics and planes are untested. They have never been to war.
Who do you think is the superior fighting force, again
The ones with 2 years combat experience or the ones with no combat experience and untested aircraft
If NATO was superior in aviation, it would establish a no fly zone over Ukraine on the first day of Special Military Operation as Russians say or Russian aggression on Ukraine as the West claims.
You're deluded
Ever heard of the relationship between Artillery and casualties? If so, there is no way more Russians would have died in Avdivvka than Ukrainians. Any neutral military expert will confirm that Artillery is responsible for 80% of casualties. Ukraine lacks shells, Russia has abundant. There is of course the defensive advantage of 3 to 1 casualties that Ukraine has. But in Avdivvka the surplus of Russian soldiers undoes this. Russia also has air supremacy. DW, try to get neutral experts, for some realistic assessments.
The side that does the attacking almost always has more casualties. If you defend, you just have to dug in and few soldiers can take down a large number. But for sure both sides suffered heavy casualties.
Anyone can look at stalingrad or the battle of verdun and countless others to see that the defender typically loses more in general
The challenge is if you take the total number of RU soldiers and the claimed casualties it means that RU by now should have run out of personnel. I think giving the world the truth helps
@@stefan5730which video game did you leant that from?
@@brandonlance3601that’s pure unadulterated shi.te talk. Ive only ever heard the opposite from people who know more than you do
The West hasn't quit support, it's working around the slow production of ammunition.
The Canadian Government is spending $30 million to help get this done:
Although the details are still being finalized, defence sources say the federal government could contribute as much as $30 million to the plan, which was proposed at the opening of the Munich Security conference by Czech Republic President Petr Pavel.
Pavel's government said it has been able to source up to 800,000 shells of NATO-standard calibre, along with shells of other calibres, from unidentified, non-NATO countries. It says it needs financial support to get the ammunition to Ukraine.
Macron alone is blocking EU money being spent on buying shells on the world market. Still Putin's friend by the looks of it.
800,000 shells is 4 months worth. And they have a shortage of men.
Could be North Korea
Кто то из вас может сказать для достижения какой цели Запад тратит столько сил и ресурсов? Для того что бы победить Россию? А для чего это нужно, что даст победа Запада над Россией?
Не лицемерьте, на Украину и её народ всем на Западе наплевать. Украина лишь инструмент достижения цели, расходный материал.
Here in Canada we have homeless people, living costs are rising, our infrastructure and housing need big investments so the last thing we should do is throw more money at Ukraine, a good portion of which will go to Zelensky and his henchmen! Most likely Russia would agree to a peace settlement that would include transfer of Donbas and Ukrainian neutrality, similar to terms almost agreed in 2022 until Boris Johnson's interference ended the negotiations. Europe is not in a position either to support Ukraine given that its population is declining and aging and the German economy, the main engine of growth, is faltering.
Why, the strategy of the West worked perfectly?
The West already knew in 2008, when the idea of bringing Ukraine and Georgia into the western alliance was being pushed the first time, that Russia would most likely go to war over it. Georgia jumped the gun and got pounded to bits, but Ukraine managed to drag Russia into an 8-year long frozen conflict culminating in a 2 year-long hot war that cost Russia an incredible amount of people and military matarial, took a huge toll on its economy and allowed the West to demonize and isolate Russia from those nations in the West that at least tried to get along with them. Now Russia is so exhausted they won't be a problem when the US focuses on China. That Ukraine gets thrown to the wolves in that process was part of the plan from the beginning. Or have you forgotten how the US treated the Afghans, and the Kurds, and the Iraqis, and dozens of "allies" before that?
Is Germany a sovereign state
No
Good question! I found some African countries are more sovereign than Germany.
No its a territory of 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😊😊😊
Are you kidding me 😂
We all know Germany is USA's beach.
Good luck folks and God Bless!
Gonzalo Lira and Assange. Does it ring the bell?
Flocking a dead horse.
@@oneshothunter9877 not as dead as Navalny
@@sergeikrivenko9043
Facts. 👍
Imagine Germany want to liberty ukraine 😂 be an independent country first
As a German I grew up in a free and independent West Germany and Germany became a democracy after WWII. Being a member of the EU you can't be 100% independent because you must accept all other members according to the EU rules. Fully independence is only North Korea because they don't care about anything..... Maybe that's what the British Brexiteers are looking for...
They will never shake off occupation. Germany is totally owned and powerless. Now they must smile as their teeth are pulled and Industry / Technology base is dismantled. Shame...
North Korea amd Iran,supplying the drone or artillery shells better than the west at this point maybe?
lol this comment should be pinned 😂😂😂🔥
Fascinating thank you
there's gonna be seriously tough times ahead for Europe, if we remain inactive
According to Chat GPT, after asking a question as to what Russia gains with the control of the Donbas and Crimea: The Donbas region in Ukraine is rich in coal, particularly anthracite and bituminous coal. Crimea has valuable resources such as titanium, salt, limestone, and some natural gas deposits. If Russia were to control these regions, it would gain access to these minerals and resources, contributing to its economic and industrial capabilities.
Sevastopol has also been an important port and naval base throughout its history, and crimea is culturally important >according to putin
We all knew that the West would leave Ukraine, only the Ukrainians didn't know it.
Go live on Poland then😅
All of you gathered around to listen to Roman just so he can say the situation is very very very terrrrreeble 😂
They all have different number of KIA how do you know causalities in an ongoing war I studied military history and that’s the hardest thing to do especially in a place you don’t control nor the war you won
Henry Kissinger: the USA don’t have friends only common interests. I guess Ukraine just found out
they are fighting with shovels 😂😂
That lady is having hard time COPING with Russia's advances....😂
Troll much?
@@SurlyShirley With smile 😁.....cant help but enjoy bugging 🐑 in here
@@JohnCSmith-lp1qryou are doing some excellent work. Keep up the good work.
How it will end? Ukraine: We want all our territory back and become NATO / Russia: We are not going anywhere. Ukraine must remain neutral or we keep fighting / US: Ukraine cannot become NATO while the conflict is ongoing / Russia: We will keep fighting till enough Ukraine becomes Russia, so that we don't need Ukrainian neutrality anymore. Conclusion: Russia holds the cards.
Think a minute is it the Russian versus west on Ukraine land or Russia verse Europe
Murdering a political prisoner in your custody isn’t a show of strength … It’s a sign of weakness …
So now its our fault Ukraine lost Avdiivka ?
But is station neutral?
Did you call it a station? Its more like an echo-chamber! They are merely re-echoing what has been passed on to them!Nobody bothers to tune into their TV channels nowadays so the come and 'try their luck' on You-tube!
Obviously Europe is neutral. They love Russia, Russian culture and specifically Russian soldiers. They provide warm cloth and greetings to Russian population as well.
It is according to the CIA
Zelensky has flown to Germany like 30 or 40 times lul
THIS REPORT IS USELESS.
WHY DONT YOU BRING SOMEONE THAT WILL REFUTE OR CHALLENGE WHAT THEY ARE SAYING????
It is confusing because Turkey 🇹🇷 is a NATO member and has been manufacturing military equipment in all types.
There is no mention about its military contribution to NATO for shipping these to Ukraine..
When Bakmut reverted back to Ukraine, no one celebrated... Its the ebb and flow of war... Ukraine will win in the long run... Its too early to be negative
Keep defending the truth, keep defending democracy, keep defending Ukraine!
😂😂
The EU still hasn't figured out it's involved in a war.
It’s two years too late to question what the strategy should be.
The more you deny reality,,the pain you will feel,,and the reality stands no amount of aid Will prevent Russia from achieving all its goals
When Ukraine was supplied with lots of arms and ammunition in 2023, it has failed miserably in the counter-offensive. And is losing territory.
So what has changed now for the West to conclude that this time around additional arms and ammunition will lead to better results for Ukraine?? Especially when Ukraine is facing a dire situation regarding manpower. The average age of the Ukraine military is 43 !! And the troops have been fighting for 2 years without a break. They badly need a rest. And forget additional troops, there are no men to relieve the troops on the frontline.
One feels that the desperate Western obsessions to deliver arms to Ukraine is quite illogical.
On the eve of the second Anniversary of the SMO "So much Russia winning Alone while the EU and Nato Lose Together"
Only 10% of European Union citizens polled across 12 countries believe Ukraine will triumph over Russia on the battlefield
60% of Politicians are taking steps for War. Democracy is funny We get to choose between 2 Prepicked for us candidates to vote for.
Im losing faith in Germany with talk of not allowing one party in elections as it is becoming too popular? Democracy is funny.
Over 70% of americans (majority among republican voters) support Ukraine, support giving aid to Ukraine. The aid bill actually provides over two-thirds of the money for US workers and corporations, ie, it's a jobs bill for americans.
exactly it cost the US nothing it actually SAVES the US money the cost of production goes down when the US ramps up all its factories and on top of that they get so many new export orders coming in..... spending an extra 100 billion when 70 billion goes to US companies and an extra 500 billion of military equipment gets ordered from the US from other countries is a new gain of 470 billiion !!!!! thats pretty much what happens and on top of that after you beat Russia or make them far weaker you can cut back the military budget later in Europe if you wanted too and save hundreds of billions there ...... its a win win .... if you sit there and do nothing your cost of produciton is still high you still need to spend a lot on the military but now everything costs more and you need to spend more forever as now Russia plus Ukraine plus Moldova and Estonia and Latvia and etc is all being controlled by Russia and now your in an even worse postion in 2030 with China far stronger on top of that.... you need to think ahead not just today
Maybe so but in Europe there is talk of military drafts. I wish Ukraine well but not to that extent.
no they don't support for ukraine has fallen with both party voters ,thats cnn poll .the bill only caters to MIC and will give jobs to people associated with them nothing for the general public and the homeless and border issue ,so speak the whole truth not just what suits you
Yup almost seems likevthe legislatif doesn't represent the people 😅
Ukraine has few soldiers left and cruel English and American media and military people are urging them to continue to diie
Ukraine wasn’t trying to defend Avdiivka for 10 years, they were actually trying to take Donetsk from 2014 to 2022 because they were on the offensive against a tiny Russian backed rebels known as DPR militia which they failed.
Those washing machine chips and shovels Russian are using are highly effective.
Unfortunately in my opinion Europe can not give Putin the Ukraine! As sad as it is he must not be allowed to keep it! This is the plain truth! And this means what it means!
They decided in Istanbul to give Ukraine to Russia.. they pushed them into a war that they can not win...
What are they going to do against willpower of other europeans as the russians and their atomic hypersonic missiles? Put a puny missile with a german flag on it? Berlin would be vaporized in a confrontation with NATO on D Day.
I know you are heartbroken but the truth is Ukraine is doomed.
Ukraine could guarantee Russia security by taking neutrality. Instead they chose to move NATO closer to Russia. Now they pay for the mistake. Russia is no danger for Europe. Europe is its own enemy. Our politicians are our enemies.
Ukraine will always be Ukraine , Russia need to win and end this war , war that's started 2014 Donbass , Russia never started this war , they are ending it , to bad most people have no ide what happened 10 years ago
Even the info-warriors are out of ammo...
Has anyone noticed that the Europeans who most want to be involved in this war are the same talking heads that won’t see there sons and daughters dying in that war
Bring Colonel Davis on this panel
They won’t do that. He talks to much sense.
BRICS support Russia 👍👍👍
😂 the best strategy is no strategy 😂 Sun Tzu
After two years, EU realized they have poked the sleepy bear lol
It is foolish to say west go to war without a strategy
4:50 Being a milblogger doesn't mean he knew how many losses RUF had in Avdiivka, Also Murz was a soldier in the Russian army since the start, he survived 2 years in the military? How did a human wave tactic survive 2 years ;)
i disagree, the strategy clearly exists, "we say we give ukraine everything it needs, and on the same hand we ll give them the less possible"
Yes there was a "strategy in the West", but it was silly and it failed.
No strategy? what about the strategy of respecting europeans and retreat? Since the majority of europeans are, and were against our interference in this war, and since Democracy is the will of majorities, retreat is the only possible strategy. I sometimes wonder if EU leaders understand how EU people are starting to doubt them. We don´t whant a war with Russia, is that difficult to understand?
This is the result of Western democracies loving their prosperity and peace so much they forgot that those things haventonbe fought for and can be costly unless decisive actions are taken to stop Russia. Have the actions of US, NATO and EU countries shown decisiveness? Now Ukraine suffers from running out of ammos, shells and worse troops
Iran and North Korea still have plenty of weapon for Russia. US and West in the other hand are struggling to manufacture weapon for Ukraine.
Russian fleet has been useless since WWI. This war was never fought on the sea. What is that woman talking about significant victories for the Ukranians on the sea? Does that changes anything?
Demographics says that somewhere between 8 an 10 thousand people reach military age weekly, am I wrong?
Folks ask me why i pay so much attention to this conflict but how can one miss the end of the western era?
a half measure of wasting money on a Ukrainian defense thats gonna fall eventually anyway is a bad plan.
Yeah, all this hesitation is what's going to cost Ukraine this war. They had a small chance before Russia dug themselves in. We gave Ukraine enough to survive, but not to win.
@@JH24821 They literally cant win. Even if they started to, Russia would use nukes and itd be over.
@@Scorch428 Putin is not going to use nukes. It would make him a pariah in the world. Even China would not be able to support him anymore due to the backlash. The only scenario when Putin could use a nuke is if NATO forces actually invaded Russian territory and NATO has never shown any interest in that.
No strategy at all. Besides giving amrs and poruing money, NATO has no clue on how to deal with Russia. On the other hand...Russia seemnto know very well how to act with NATO.
Last year, the EU approved 12 sanction packages against Russia and the Russian economy grew 3%. Meanwhile, the German economy is in "tatters". The EU sanctioned itself.
If you think that it grew I have some beach front property in Oklahoma to sell you. Russia reports their own numbers. That is how China grew by 5% while 30% of their gdp in real estate collapsed. Stock market is down 60% and imports and exports down double digits. Yup still growing lol. Russia only supplies raw unfinished commodities. No high value finished products. No car exports to mention. China took over that. Military exports went to 0 basically. What do people buy from Russia? Not tech, that is for sure. Now they have cut funding to all critical areas like education. On top of that all people that were well educated left. Their tech sector was gutted. Many scientists left. Their pipes are all freezing and bursting. They don’t have enough workers. Seems like they are killing it lmao 😂😂
@@VikingpointsEven western institutions say Russia's economy is growing, now the most powerful in Europe, and 5th in the world.
2014 all over again.
This war is between two soviet
Neigbours but the best thing is to negotiation but not to inflame the war
Was ua sovyet, aren't they like Poland that is conquered instead, remembering the holofomor?
It was a tech power house for sovyet that true😊😅
If the show was honest:
Experts: "Yes Avdiivka was a blow, but there are many successes elswhere."
Host: "If all is fine, what are we talking about here?"
Afrika stands with Russia in this war against Ukraine (NATO).
Just increase the tax rates
This sounded a lot like licking wounds. In recent history it is a fine aged custom for anyone who fought and lost to Russia to claim inflicting huge losses, as if even if true this somehow sweetens the mouthful of defeat.
If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?
The world is broken. The last final list depends on who has more weapons. We lost the creative&sincere&greedy leaders. What shoul we can rely on ?
To all democracy loving peoples of the world, support Ukraine, stand with Ukraine!
there is no more democracy in the world. Maybe at the end of last century we had democracy in some countries around Europe but is over now.
World stands with Russia... open your eyes already
people like putin are what you get when "democracy" has become a rotten system.
and its the best system, nothing better, lets be it until the end of time.
😂😂😂😂😂
These experts live in their own fantasy world.
There is a strategy but one of the two major political parties is siding with Putin and is undermining any effort to help Ukraine.
Well, to our Eastern european friends, you shouldnt step up warnings but weapons production.
There are EU and US companies that are making money from this war, and they would prefer it to go on. The Russian oil shadow fleet in Greece, EU and US components in Russian rockets, exports to Russia's poor southern neighbours up by 800%...Sanctions? What sanctions?
Of course the have defence line behind there
The course of the war is entirely dependent on whether the US continues giving a small amount of aid.
If sufficiently supplied then Ukrainian ground forces can contain any further Russian advances.
The information war for US public opinion is the most important front and the only front on which Russia can achieve victory in Ukraine. Which is why Putin got himself on a particular podcast the other day that has a direct line to rubes in the US.
What a nonsense ! The Ukrainians have not enough soldiers anymore. Stop warmongering!
Ukraine has no soldiers ...
The US could give 100BN more in aid and Ukraine would still lose. You can print money, but you can't print artillery shells, missiles, tanks, men, and experience.
Rubbish. Russia can out produce the entire west with weapon production. Secondly, the lack of men to fight compared to Russia is a bigger problem. So what will the west do to fix that? Send their own troops to die and cause WW3? Wake up to reality.
I will adk Zelinski, was this worth it? Was wanting to be a enemy of Russia by joining NATO? Ukraine could have been a bridge between the East and West, but it chose to alienate Russia. Zelinski wantwd to eat at the same table as Biden and the EU, and he let his personal ambitions take over what was best for the people. The end result is loss of territory and 100s of thousands of Ukrainians dead.