@@vryepic f1 is better on circuits whilst Indy is only better on an oval but in a straight long line f1 could likely beat Indy cuz of the hybrid system and DRS and the full 1000 horsepower compared to Indy’s 500 to 700 horsepower
@@andreaocchipinti8154 it’s “realistic” not perfectly accurate. So combining real world data with a simulation’s data, is using it for your own personal viewpoint and not 100% based on accurate and correct data. I don’t think they did it maliciously, like politics are distorted, but it’s a bad thing to do and it’s why I pointed it out
@@ColAlbSmi not to mention it’s not a lot of fun watching road or street courses live in person but when Indycar races on speedways it’s waaaayy better in person. It’s so cool to sit high up and be able to see the cars the whole time.
Facts. I grew up with f1 in the mid 2000s and after the hybrids were introduced it never did it for me. Switched to Indycar and I’ve been watching ever since.
F1 is the greatest motorsport there is. F1 cars are faster. They drive around tracks. Roads, streets. Not ovals with smooth track that’s great for the cars. They have the best drivers, mechanics, etc. in the world. It’s the most popular motorsport in the world. F1 has and is the best. There’s no debate.
@@lucac2665 wtf are you talking about? Indycar races on street, road and oval courses. They race at Detroit and Nashville which are arguably the most bumpy and demanding temporary tracks in the world. There’s no power steering or driver aids so they are much more physical to drive. Indycar has been around for longer, also has incredible drivers, produces far superior racing and is much more fan friendly (you don’t have to pay $800 for a grandstand ticket). Just because f1 is the biggest and the fastest, doesn’t make it the best. In fact Moto GP, endurance racing, Indycar and rally all produce far superior products overall compared to f1. Educate yourself before you comment
F1 cars not standardized each race, they have different downforce packages to suit the circuit needs. And often teams come with aero upgrades a couple times each season
Ya but the engine and the bodywork stay the same other than the wings the suspension and other parts change depending on the track. Meanwhile Indy changes the bodywork and the engine in oval races. I like to think that indy is more straight line speed and F1 is more corner speed. Of course f1 beats indy 10/10 in a standard race track but F1 can’t compete the full indy500
The main difference is Indycars produces way better racing and competition, where in indycars every car has a chance to win. F1 only 2 drivers have a chance to win a championship.
Exactly I love soccer/ football and most of the time think that foreign sports and ideas are correct, but the lack of parody in f1 along with the incompetence of the fia mean Indy car is more fun from a viewers perspective
Palou did 243mph at Indianapolis!! Remember Indy just has shy 710hp vs 1065hp of the F1, right know F1 budget is around $140M while Indy is just around $15M, Indy has the toughest tracks that's why those cars are simple there build to endure those tough surface. Put a F1 at Detroit street track is one of the worst at Indy lots bumps, the corners are insane!! Indy car almost past those rails by CM. But love both!!
Keep in mind, this is top F1 cars. In many areas Indy Cars are equivalent to the backmarkers and rear midfield of F1. This is despite having heacier cars and far cheaper engines and other parts than many of the worse F1 teams
F1 cars are not standardized different teams have cars that have completely different bodywork etc while indycar is spec series which means the whole grid is filled with same cars with no difference although there are two versions for indycar oval setup and road course setup
@@babyskinboots5291 lmao top speed is not the most important bruh its about how fast time it can do at a circuit and f1 is miles faster than indycar thats y f1 is the fastest car in the world
It’s all track dependant. If they were racing on an oval the IndyCars have can achieve higher top speeds and would be quicker. F1 cars have higher drag coefficients due to the higher downforce, given the tracks styles they race on. However F1 cars are notably quicker around pretty much any other track layout, given their superior cornering abilities.
Good video but INDYCAR race on ovals and on the ovals they can get up to 230+ iNDYCAR is the fastest motor racing on the ovals but on the Street or road course F1 is faster
@@sw1ft873 they actually can’t, a typical F1 car can hit low 230s while the Indycars can hit 240s into the speed trap at IMS. It’s kind of pointless to compare anyway though since they’re built for different purposes
@@callummclachlan4771 the Honda F1 team made their 2005 F1 car go 400 by removing some aero. It would take very little for an F1 team to adjust an F1 car to be a faster oval racer than an indycar
Yeah I've been a fan of F1 for a lot longer than Indycar but im starting to find Indy to be the superior competition for the spectator. The racing is awesome especially when it comes to tyre strategy. The drivers can push the cars all race without worrying too much about the F1 style car/tyre management BS
The Indycar is the actual faster vehicle, unless of course you give the F1 car an aerodynamics package that doesn’t exist and redesigned the engines for ovals as every F1 fan so graciously points
Why do people always bring up circuits when comparing these two? Indy car is much faster on a speedway and it's why people watch indy car. Who give af what the difference is on a circuit? If you want to see a car go fast around sharp turns watch f1. If you want to watch a car go fast in a straight line and slight turns watch indy. Top speed or turning speed. That's the difference.
It's weird how in all of those comparisons pretty much no one mentions the efficiency of F1, which is one of the most amazing thing about them. Which is slightly more than twice of indy car.
Obviously it’d be setup dependent, but if each had their lowest standard downforce wings used in an average season, an IndyCar would have a slightly higher top speed. Given the track types they race on, F1 cars are more reliant on downforce and therefore suffer higher drag.
Only one company make the chassis in Indycar, so there's no arms race making the cars faster like in F1, at least not anymore. Also Indycars are not designed to launch from a standstill so that acceleration test you did isn't as relevant
The f1 would lose hands down on a speedway head to head with an Indy car. An Indy car would lose hands down on a circuit against an f1. The f1 doesn't have the undercarriage setup the IndyCar has.
"In 2019, the fastest Formula One lap was a 1:32 at the Circuit of the Americas in Texas, while the fastest IndyCar lap was a 1:46 earlier in the year." It doesn't make sense comparing laps on different track, does it?
Imagine how if Indycar would be with a new engine in the car already. With the engine they canceled production for Indycar could’ve been on par with F1 lap times and would be over 250mph at Indy (the fastest so far being 248mph!)
@@freddarau F1 cars are developed almost from scratch every year for every single team, with a lot of regulations to follow, including a fuel flow limit which is making the car a lot slower than what they are actually capable of. The aero is also much more advanced.
Indy car is more comparable to F2 than F1 in terms of speeds. Like F1 is faster, has more grip and more brakes. On top of that F1 cars are much more fuel efficiant. Only place indy cars have advantage is on ovals. And that is theoretical if F1 hosted race on ovals teams would bring aero and suspenssion packages for that so likely F1 would be faster.
F1 is the greatest motorsport there is. F1 cars are faster. They drive around tracks. Roads, streets. Not ovals with smooth track that’s great for the cars. They have the best drivers, mechanics, etc. in the world. It’s the most popular motorsport in the world. F1 has and is the best. There’s no debate.
The only thing true you said was that’s it’s the most popular…everything else was your opinion and that’s fine but don’t pass it off as fact. Each series is very different with a different dynamic and cannot be compared You may be an F1 fan but you’re probably not a motorsports fan to say something so ignorant
So you are dissing the championship that came up with the concept of single seaters and rear engine cars. Back in the 90s some of the world championship winners moved from f1 to indycar (CART) right after they won it
They are beast in their own category
F1 rule the circuit
Indy rules the Speedway
What’s the difference between a circuit and a speedway?
Incorrect, f1 rules both, it’s just the downforce packages that affect its speed, if ya suit it for the speedway, it beats indy
@@MrBarniculusBaboonicalshire f1 doesn't do 243 at indy
@@MrBarniculusBaboonicalshire depends on the track at the indy500 an f1 car couldn't compete
@@vryepic f1 is better on circuits whilst Indy is only better on an oval but in a straight long line f1 could likely beat Indy cuz of the hybrid system and DRS and the full 1000 horsepower compared to Indy’s 500 to 700 horsepower
F1: acceleration and agility
Indycar: top speed and stability
I've been having a lot of fun with indy 23 on AMS2 😅 but I've been running them on F1 know tracks.
I cant lie being a new f1 fan, its the first sport that actually welcomes and tries to educate newer fans rather than gatekeep!
Welcome and let's enjoy this awesome sport together!
Don't worry you'll come across those people lmao
Trust me f1 fans are the most toxic racing fans in all of motorsport
Lol what?
@@bigboyhours6473 yeh, Verstappen fans
That editing is really impressive mate.
Appreciate it mate!
Don’t like the fact you are using real world data & data from asseto corsa together and essentially passing them off as 100% definitive evidence.
Evidence? Evidence for what lol
@@SlickBillByron evidence to find when his dad is coming back
Assetto Corsa Is very accurate
@@andreaocchipinti8154 it’s “realistic” not perfectly accurate. So combining real world data with a simulation’s data, is using it for your own personal viewpoint and not 100% based on accurate and correct data. I don’t think they did it maliciously, like politics are distorted, but it’s a bad thing to do and it’s why I pointed it out
@@lknight1266 he’s not combining real and ac data
I watch both series but overall Indycar races are usually better.
Way better experience in person as well. You can actually meet the all drivers for pretty cheap, F1 you'd need to sponsor the car lol.
@@ColAlbSmi not to mention it’s not a lot of fun watching road or street courses live in person but when Indycar races on speedways it’s waaaayy better in person. It’s so cool to sit high up and be able to see the cars the whole time.
Facts. I grew up with f1 in the mid 2000s and after the hybrids were introduced it never did it for me. Switched to Indycar and I’ve been watching ever since.
F1 is the greatest motorsport there is. F1 cars are faster. They drive around tracks. Roads, streets. Not ovals with smooth track that’s great for the cars. They have the best drivers, mechanics, etc. in the world. It’s the most popular motorsport in the world. F1 has and is the best. There’s no debate.
@@lucac2665 wtf are you talking about? Indycar races on street, road and oval courses. They race at Detroit and Nashville which are arguably the most bumpy and demanding temporary tracks in the world. There’s no power steering or driver aids so they are much more physical to drive. Indycar has been around for longer, also has incredible drivers, produces far superior racing and is much more fan friendly (you don’t have to pay $800 for a grandstand ticket). Just because f1 is the biggest and the fastest, doesn’t make it the best. In fact Moto GP, endurance racing, Indycar and rally all produce far superior products overall compared to f1. Educate yourself before you comment
F1 cars not standardized each race, they have different downforce packages to suit the circuit needs. And often teams come with aero upgrades a couple times each season
Ya but the engine and the bodywork stay the same other than the wings the suspension and other parts change depending on the track. Meanwhile Indy changes the bodywork and the engine in oval races. I like to think that indy is more straight line speed and F1 is more corner speed. Of course f1 beats indy 10/10 in a standard race track but F1 can’t compete the full indy500
@@gotchello7168 of course, F1 doesn't run on ovals so it doesn't need too high straight speed.
@@oliviero46 ya exactly f1 is cornering speed and most of the time Indy car is straight line speed (depending on the track).
So....they are BOTH pretty bad ass then....
Indy 500, is there anything else I need to say?
yea its shit
I like both, but F1 is not competitive. I love the technology, but it’s essentially a design competition. Their cars cost way more the Indy cars.
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Indy has races,they change positions and make a show of it.
F1 , train racing like train on the railroad you know what the outcome is
That is some top tier edit
Is no one really gonna talk about that IndyCar that jumped on that curb?💀
The main difference is Indycars produces way better racing and competition, where in indycars every car has a chance to win. F1 only 2 drivers have a chance to win a championship.
Exactly I love soccer/ football and most of the time think that foreign sports and ideas are correct, but the lack of parody in f1 along with the incompetence of the fia mean Indy car is more fun from a viewers perspective
Thank you!!! No one knows this and assume f1 is better
Yeah reason i wanna watch it and we got two swedes in it ericsson and Rosenqvist
So even though the Indy car is faster, the formula car is faster. I like it.
Palou did 243mph at Indianapolis!! Remember Indy just has shy 710hp vs 1065hp of the F1, right know F1 budget is around $140M while Indy is just around $15M, Indy has the toughest tracks that's why those cars are simple there build to endure those tough surface. Put a F1 at Detroit street track is one of the worst at Indy lots bumps, the corners are insane!! Indy car almost past those rails by CM. But love both!!
Indy is wayyyyyyyyy better. I do love f1 though.
If you want top speed, you go with indycar, but if you like acceleration, that goes to f1
Keep in mind, this is top F1 cars. In many areas Indy Cars are equivalent to the backmarkers and rear midfield of F1. This is despite having heacier cars and far cheaper engines and other parts than many of the worse F1 teams
F1 cars are not standardized different teams have cars that have completely different bodywork etc while indycar is spec series which means the whole grid is filled with same cars with no difference although there are two versions for indycar oval setup and road course setup
no I think he meant by F1 being standardized is the track style unlike indycar there's normal track and oval. f1 don't have ovals
F1 is alot fasterer than you show here
i mean they almost never go above 200 in races if they even can
@@babyskinboots5291 lmao top speed is not the most important bruh its about how fast time it can do at a circuit and f1 is miles faster than indycar thats y f1 is the fastest car in the world
@@babyskinboots5291 top speed doesn't make you fast on corners
It’s all track dependant. If they were racing on an oval the IndyCars have can achieve higher top speeds and would be quicker. F1 cars have higher drag coefficients due to the higher downforce, given the tracks styles they race on. However F1 cars are notably quicker around pretty much any other track layout, given their superior cornering abilities.
@@mohamadharisarfan5993 angry top fuel dragster noises
I watch both, but IndyCar has a far better on-track product.
Both categories are exceptional. F1 will always be the Pinnacle of motorsports, but there's nothing like the Indy500 speed and competition.
🎉 I like Both.. But THAT #Formula1 goes around the World plus the #LasVegasGP was LIT❤🎉
Yeah but Indy has a competetive Rick Ware team XD
Can’t say the same for nascar either Cody ware sucks
Indy car is real head to head, close race racing, F1 is all on the mechanics whether they win or not
COTA is my home race and it is always an awesome one
Indycar is much, much cheaper relative to F1. It really is incredible
Indycar all balls no brains
F1 all brains and balls
sent is there only a slither of video in the middle?
Indycars are more colorful then F1 cars
Indycars are all regulated meaning built the same so its all about who's the best driver, while formula one cars are about who has the best car.
Good video but INDYCAR race on ovals and on the ovals they can get up to 230+ iNDYCAR is the fastest motor racing on the ovals but on the Street or road course F1 is faster
f1 cars can go faster than that on ovals
@@sw1ft873 they actually can’t, a typical F1 car can hit low 230s while the Indycars can hit 240s into the speed trap at IMS. It’s kind of pointless to compare anyway though since they’re built for different purposes
@@51ET78 with a very low downforce setup and DRS F1 would smoke any indy
@@huttonberries768 But not for long. F1 engines are way more fragile than Indycar engines.
You'd also have to adjust the gearing.
@@callummclachlan4771 the Honda F1 team made their 2005 F1 car go 400 by removing some aero. It would take very little for an F1 team to adjust an F1 car to be a faster oval racer than an indycar
Indycar first.Way more exciting.F1 is boring,The same two teams upfront every race.
Yeah I've been a fan of F1 for a lot longer than Indycar but im starting to find Indy to be the superior competition for the spectator.
The racing is awesome especially when it comes to tyre strategy.
The drivers can push the cars all race without worrying too much about the F1 style car/tyre management BS
Indycars have to be built to sustain a 240MPH impact on an Oval wall/catchfence. That has a lot to do with everything.
The Indycar is the actual faster vehicle, unless of course you give the F1 car an aerodynamics package that doesn’t exist and redesigned the engines for ovals as every F1 fan so graciously points
This topic is getting redundant...yawn.
Pato had a top speed of 243 mph
Why do people always bring up circuits when comparing these two? Indy car is much faster on a speedway and it's why people watch indy car. Who give af what the difference is on a circuit? If you want to see a car go fast around sharp turns watch f1. If you want to watch a car go fast in a straight line and slight turns watch indy. Top speed or turning speed. That's the difference.
Indycars are not lighter than f1 cars...
Yes they are
It's weird how in all of those comparisons pretty much no one mentions the efficiency of F1, which is one of the most amazing thing about them. Which is slightly more than twice of indy car.
Cool
Now which one has the higher top speed
Obviously it’d be setup dependent, but if each had their lowest standard downforce wings used in an average season, an IndyCar would have a slightly higher top speed. Given the track types they race on, F1 cars are more reliant on downforce and therefore suffer higher drag.
@@Heathen.Deity. so if they both have no downforce, which car is more powerful and has higher top speed in a straight line
F1 cost 50M vs Indycar 3M
difference 47M for 10 Km/h? XD
I won't lose for a snail
Honestly I appreciate it., But don't talk about top speed and show average lap times at the same time it's really confusing
it’s really not
@@Pugrug. Indycars have a higher top speed, but you wouldn’t realize that from the lap time
230 in F1 378 km/hr
Only one company make the chassis in Indycar, so there's no arms race making the cars faster like in F1, at least not anymore. Also Indycars are not designed to launch from a standstill so that acceleration test you did isn't as relevant
The f1 would lose hands down on a speedway head to head with an Indy car. An Indy car would lose hands down on a circuit against an f1. The f1 doesn't have the undercarriage setup the IndyCar has.
Pretty sure the fastest F1 lap was on Bahrains alternative track last year or year before, was something stupid like 1min and 2secs
"In 2019, the fastest Formula One lap was a 1:32 at the Circuit of the Americas in Texas, while the fastest IndyCar lap was a 1:46 earlier in the year."
It doesn't make sense comparing laps on different track, does it?
@@SimplyF1 oh my bad I misheard 😅
The current F1 cars are slow. The fastest F1 lap was JPM in Williams BMW at 2004 Monza.
Tech-sis😑
Imagine how if Indycar would be with a new engine in the car already. With the engine they canceled production for Indycar could’ve been on par with F1 lap times and would be over 250mph at Indy (the fastest so far being 248mph!)
F1 car is not 10000 times faster as the cost is
I feel like in design, Indycar is very very similar to Formula E cars but just with the glass pane
F1 car do sub 1:20 on Barcelona. Indycar could no way get under 1:30. Plus technologically the Indy isn't even the same world
One cost $29 million dollars to build, the other costs under million. If anything formula one's performance is disappointing at best.
@@freddarau F1 cars are developed almost from scratch every year for every single team, with a lot of regulations to follow, including a fuel flow limit which is making the car a lot slower than what they are actually capable of. The aero is also much more advanced.
@@Spartancat02 and IndyCar has more limits.
@@freddarau what, Really? how are thay so cheap then?
@@Spartancat02 spec class car, and using well know motors and simple aero.
Indy car is more comparable to F2 than F1 in terms of speeds.
Like F1 is faster, has more grip and more brakes. On top of that F1 cars are much more fuel efficiant.
Only place indy cars have advantage is on ovals. And that is theoretical if F1 hosted race on ovals teams would bring aero and suspenssion packages for that so likely F1 would be faster.
Dont compare IndyCar And NASCAR
Get your facts correct please.
Who says they're wrong?
F1 is the greatest motorsport there is. F1 cars are faster. They drive around tracks. Roads, streets. Not ovals with smooth track that’s great for the cars. They have the best drivers, mechanics, etc. in the world. It’s the most popular motorsport in the world. F1 has and is the best. There’s no debate.
The only thing true you said was that’s it’s the most popular…everything else was your opinion and that’s fine but don’t pass it off as fact.
Each series is very different with a different dynamic and cannot be compared
You may be an F1 fan but you’re probably not a motorsports fan to say something so ignorant
Theres no such as thing as the "greatest" lmfao, which Motorsport races in countries with inhuman rights and slavery? Yup that's F1
Guess who doesn’t know Indy cars race on ovals, street circuits AND road courses… grow up and open your eyes
But their still to afraid to just drive in a circle or to drive on a non paved surface
Brother have you seen the iowa oval that is bumpier than any track f1 races at
indy and f2 use the same chassis or body i forgot
Neither
They are not the same but both cars are creations of Dallara, but the car only, the mechanic stuff are different for each series
Ez, F1 is way superior
In sucking.
IndyCar? U mean indyCrap? How u can call it a car? Its a crapbox!
🤡
So you are dissing the championship that came up with the concept of single seaters and rear engine cars. Back in the 90s some of the world championship winners moved from f1 to indycar (CART) right after they won it
Indycar > F1