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  • @TheXclusiveAce
    @TheXclusiveAce 2 месяца назад +119

    Something I didn't mention in the video is these were initially bugged and wouldn't fire at your point of aim when firing both guns simultaneously. That was fixed a couple of days ago and they are hitting exactly where you aim now.

    • @jacobmiller6916
      @jacobmiller6916 2 месяца назад +1

      Glad to see you fix the confusion as I started seeing in the comments lol. But I'm really hoping the servers get fixed soon

    • @istaygolden3017
      @istaygolden3017 2 месяца назад

      New to the game Ace but is there any slug shotguns good like the ksg back in bo2?

    • @starlite_lord4321
      @starlite_lord4321 2 месяца назад

      Something you DID mention is that "scopes are completely useless" when there is a scope that improves all recoil and gun kick by 10%, with no cons for akimbo.

    • @spookyghost7524
      @spookyghost7524 2 месяца назад

      i would stick a muzzle on that has melee damage potential for core mp

    • @FlowKom
      @FlowKom 2 месяца назад

      its still somewhat bugged.. often i get what seems like slug ammo when i dont have it loaded in. i shoot at a wall and only get one single pallet and basically never one or 2 shot then

  • @ursy1302
    @ursy1302 2 месяца назад +304

    The original pre-patch M1887s had a 20m range. The wardens have a 29m one shot range. That is insane

    • @emwols
      @emwols 2 месяца назад +49

      Yes it is, though it’s extremely unforgiving so I think it’s somewhat fair. It frustrating to die to but it’s also frustrating to use when you regularly miss multiple shots in a row lol. I think SHG did a great job adding something totally new and unique, literally an akimbo sniper that is only a one shot kill if you hit dead center of the body. Very cool

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 2 месяца назад +4

      They had a range drop?

    • @ursy1302
      @ursy1302 2 месяца назад +15

      @Deathmare235 Well the problem with the original models was that they didn't lose damage over range, which was unintended. When IW fixed that bug they went and drastically reduced the min range from 20m to 11m. And they reduced the max damage range to 5m

    • @zaneharris1562
      @zaneharris1562 2 месяца назад +7

      The pre patch 1887s legitimately could snipe people across invasion or wasteland with EASE. Imo if they buff the range and sprint out speed on the other shotguns that would make them not only more viable but more people would use them. The only time I see shotguns is on shipment almost exclusively

    • @ursy1302
      @ursy1302 2 месяца назад +6

      @zaneharris1562 No, they couldn't. The stats were datamined years ago on the DenKirson forums - the pre patch models had a 20m range, the bullets disappeared after that point. You can see this in Xcal's video where he tries but fails to get a hit from an ambitious distance

  • @CatGopher98
    @CatGopher98 2 месяца назад +120

    The Ares Clear Shot actually reduces all recoil by 10%!

    • @emwols
      @emwols 2 месяца назад +8

      Lol yes I’m using these even though that probably irrelevant too haha

    • @Drebin-8427
      @Drebin-8427 2 месяца назад +7

      I didn't know if it carried over from MW2 but the shotgun exclusive scopes (one of them is unlocked with the over/under shotgun) tightens your spread a tiny bit and since stats stack it may be beneficial to use to help maintain a tiny bit more hip fire accuracy wile moving.

    • @Triggered876
      @Triggered876 2 месяца назад +1

      I was gonna say this lol i just hate how big they are. Def dropping incendiary ammo after seeing this doe i was wondering why my shots werent hitting

    • @CatGopher98
      @CatGopher98 2 месяца назад +8

      @@Drebin-8427 ah, you're right about the Daunt-C80. Unfortunately, the M1887s still count as a marksman rifle so you can't equip that scope

    • @TheIntratec9
      @TheIntratec9 2 месяца назад

      @@Drebin-8427 What's the name of that Lockwood 300 scope?

  • @angellburgos9591
    @angellburgos9591 2 месяца назад +58

    That Conversion kit is fun to use but I still want a single lever action shotgun 👍🏻

    • @weirdeurasianboy8091
      @weirdeurasianboy8091 2 месяца назад +2

      Like Iron Hide in CW? That was one of two shottys I used to get Dark Aether (the other one was the Spaz-12)

    • @Tigliz12
      @Tigliz12 2 месяца назад

      The 1887 should bn in S3 BP not Bal27 and the SMG no one uses.

    • @Tigliz12
      @Tigliz12 2 месяца назад

      I love lever action guns.

    • @khayrinewton9239
      @khayrinewton9239 2 месяца назад

      But why have one when u can have 2😂😂💯

    • @danielballestas5532
      @danielballestas5532 2 месяца назад

      Hmmm like the Argus from bo3? I agree dude

  • @drigop.626
    @drigop.626 2 месяца назад +4

    Your videos are above and beyond the most informative videos on the platform. Thank you.

  • @maserati4000
    @maserati4000 2 месяца назад +50

    i have not had as much fun using any gun in this game as i have using the 1887s. Close second would be the Kastov 762.

    • @suqqmadiq2604
      @suqqmadiq2604 2 месяца назад +4

      My man. The 762 was a beast in mw2 and is still and beast in this game. I will say if you like that gun try the Geist it has a tiny little bit faster ttk.

    • @maserati4000
      @maserati4000 2 месяца назад

      @@suqqmadiq2604 dont gotta tell my twice about the 762 brother haha. my weapon KD with that gun in MW3 is like 1.26/1.27. im pretty sure its my best AR stat too. higher risk, higher reward. in my opinion i think its criminally underrated too. i think the recoil turns a lot of people off from it along with a slower fire rate (undertanable), but if you put time into learning it, you feel unstoppable. i think i have a 15% headshot rate with it which is higher than my overall accuracy with the gun.

    • @supersai4198
      @supersai4198 2 месяца назад

      ​@@suqqmadiq2604The Geist is superior but the recoil direction is oppsite the 762, so will take a few hours to adjust fully. Also the Avancer might be better than both but small mag

    • @andymancan_
      @andymancan_ Месяц назад +1

      u got a good Kastov 762 loadout?

    • @maserati4000
      @maserati4000 Месяц назад +1

      @@andymancan_
      JAK BFB Muzzle
      Demo-X2 Grip
      IG-K30 406MM Barrel
      7.62x39MM High Grain Ammunition
      MK.3 Reflector
      thats the loadout I use. you can swap out the high grain rounds because it increases recoil BUT it gives you more 15% min/max range and 15% higher bullet velocity. It slaps hard bro. just play a little bit slower.

  • @zodiac_blue9116
    @zodiac_blue9116 2 месяца назад +5

    These are a fun add to the game, so nostalgic. Nice video Ace, glad to know not to touch the ammo types other than base.

  • @gettnKrazy
    @gettnKrazy 2 месяца назад +5

    Brought back the good mw2 memories fr.

  • @emp1985
    @emp1985 2 месяца назад +5

    Not gonna lie... I think they released the wardens like this as a TOTAL throwback to the M1887s. They're so OP right now, that absolutely reminds you of every aspect of those legendary M1187s. These things are absolutely hilarious to play with LMAO.

  • @thefancytiefling
    @thefancytiefling Месяц назад +1

    I really wish they gave us a single version because I loved running around with that thing just because you could do the overly exaggerated lever movement

  • @sashavenka
    @sashavenka 2 месяца назад +107

    Named warden cuz you send em straight to the gulag

  • @jamiehalfkin5813
    @jamiehalfkin5813 2 месяца назад +7

    They are absolutely insane, even more so than the OG ones!!!🤣👍💯

  • @bobbyb373
    @bobbyb373 2 месяца назад

    These guns are so fun, really enjoying using them so far

  • @YellowDogWithCone
    @YellowDogWithCone 2 месяца назад +50

    I'm the only one who wishes these were a separate weapon rather than an Aftermarket Part that you can barely customize or use in non Akimbo form?

    • @EXQUIS1T3
      @EXQUIS1T3 2 месяца назад +12

      Eh we already have more than enough weapons. Just adding more would clog up the weapon pool and the aftermarket parts actually provide value/ an alternative use to guns than just clog up the weapon pool

    • @friday4557
      @friday4557 2 месяца назад

      non akimbo form would be the mk2 with a sawed off stock.....

    • @TacitusKilgore-kh4we
      @TacitusKilgore-kh4we 2 месяца назад +5

      ​@@EXQUIS1T3Imagine complaining about weapon variety 😭

    • @EXQUIS1T3
      @EXQUIS1T3 2 месяца назад +8

      @@TacitusKilgore-kh4we aftermarket parts give you weapon variety without actually clogging up the weapon pool 💀 I literally said they're a good thing BECAUSE they give more variety

    • @TacitusKilgore-kh4we
      @TacitusKilgore-kh4we 2 месяца назад +1

      @@EXQUIS1T3 What is "clogging" up the weapon pool? Is literally the same thing but worst because you have to use 1 attachment to "convert" that weapon. This is literally worst

  • @bearwithit
    @bearwithit 2 месяца назад

    5:00 damn Ace, that was a good little combo to jump shot there

  • @Denilius123
    @Denilius123 2 месяца назад +1

    I also like putting the biggest possible optic just because it looks so goofy 😂 can’t wait to try these out after the buff (now I don’t have to alternate fire the guns)

  • @yeeter420
    @yeeter420 2 месяца назад

    Wouldn't the after market sight that makes your hip fire tighter be good?

  • @Evonthedaily
    @Evonthedaily 2 месяца назад

    I seen people add the scope does it help with range?

  • @DiMECallofDuty
    @DiMECallofDuty 2 месяца назад +1

    I use cronen intlas msp 12 sight which has a built in laser that is only visible in ADS and tightens up the bullet spread.

  • @hostileactual7655
    @hostileactual7655 Месяц назад +4

    We're gonna need a update on these 😢 they killed the fun.

    • @ELI732
      @ELI732 Месяц назад

      I logged on yesterday and they nerfed my babies

  • @leprofDtri
    @leprofDtri 2 месяца назад +15

    Took advantage of them being overtuned to get'em gold...
    Then I learned they were glitched and are now even better.
    I initially tought that was a balance decision to avoid reliable one-hit kills at too far a range, lmao.

    • @regingnik5892
      @regingnik5892 2 месяца назад

      What’s your build for them

    • @leprofDtri
      @leprofDtri 2 месяца назад

      @@regingnik5892 Just use Ace's build, can't put much on them anyway

  • @brent0034
    @brent0034 Месяц назад

    There are some sights that do apply stats, do those stats not count unless you are ADS? If they do then wouldnt it be better to add a sight that has like more range or better hipfire spread?

  • @S3BAST1AN696
    @S3BAST1AN696 2 месяца назад +1

    I love this these are so much fun! Finally a shotgun thats good and deadly within 5 m with not an insabely slow sprint to fire so you can run around super agressive! Lots of fun abd beats just having to aim walk aroubd corners to be effective like the other non spam shotties

  • @craigmalley1517
    @craigmalley1517 2 месяца назад

    These are just a absolute ton of fun to use. 🤝

  • @Leothecat2way
    @Leothecat2way 2 месяца назад +72

    I knew it would be OP. But I love it, it just pisses off so many Quickscoping Sweats.

    • @BetaBreaking
      @BetaBreaking 2 месяца назад +8

      I love pissing off people using the Warden Kit thinking they're tough shit. I'm a shotgun player even more so, I've been playing COD since WAW. I was there for the OG Model 1887 cheese lol
      (To clarify, I am also using the Warden Kit, I'm just simply better)

    • @sonsofliberty9630
      @sonsofliberty9630 2 месяца назад +8

      It pisses off almost everyone. Almost.

    • @DustoVonSusto
      @DustoVonSusto 2 месяца назад +3

      Sweats do not quickscope lmao if you want to win you just use an mcw

    • @raptonsoul2557
      @raptonsoul2557 2 месяца назад +10

      Longbow spammer finally getting what they deserve

    • @slugfeast8944
      @slugfeast8944 2 месяца назад +3

      @@DustoVonSusto Wrong, you use an MCW because everything else is GA'ed, including the best snipers. It's a beam, but not only is the SVA better (especially after the MCW lost its 4-shot potential), snipers are far better as well. The sniper rifle is 100% comp for core MP: there's a reason they're so heavily restricted for CDL. Having a 1 shot TTK in a game that has increased TTK across the board for reg guns has made the game pretty wildly imbalanced. For casual play, where nothing is GA'ed, it's a pretty obvious choice.

  • @Ghiro...
    @Ghiro... 2 месяца назад

    so when is the mw2 vel gonna get a kit that makes it into mw3 mp7 or bo2 mp7

  • @paulphillips1075
    @paulphillips1075 2 месяца назад +2

    Is there a one shot potential for hc with the ball?

  • @raptonsoul2557
    @raptonsoul2557 2 месяца назад +27

    I think they should just buff the other shotguns, especially the Bryson, to be more in line with their roles while the warden are the precious option for non slug shotguns, also a massive boost for slugs across the board

    • @frederickbradley8255
      @frederickbradley8255 2 месяца назад +1

      The Expedite 12 is god awful it has needed a buff for awhile.

    • @DevlVergil
      @DevlVergil 2 месяца назад +3

      @@frederickbradley8255 It's crazy how the game is already at half it's life cycle yet the balancing is still horrendous for some weapons that should get straight damage buffs by 30%.

    • @Oznerol1234
      @Oznerol1234 2 месяца назад +3

      Hell no

    • @frederickbradley8255
      @frederickbradley8255 2 месяца назад

      @DevlVergil they really need to look at the pick rate on guns, attachments, etc . If people are not picking certain things, they need to look and see why. Alot could be sorted out just by this. Some guns like the Stormender are just like, "Why is this even here if no one is using it."

    • @jovanic38
      @jovanic38 2 месяца назад

      Shotguns should have the worst sprintout time in the game, with the 1 hit kill potential they have.
      If you're at full sprint every gun in the game except spiners should be able to get some shots off before you do.
      Even lmgs should have a faster sprintout than shotguns.
      Too many kill cams I get with the shotgun literally pointing in the air

  • @HNcomics
    @HNcomics 2 месяца назад

    Some optics claim to make changes in the advanced stats. Have you tested if those are correct? It says one of the scopes reduces recoil so I'm running that.

    • @mojojojo9458
      @mojojojo9458 2 месяца назад

      Check the advanced stats, they make no difference

    • @HNcomics
      @HNcomics 2 месяца назад

      @@mojojojo9458 I literally just said that I got that info from the advanced stats. There's like 5 or so that say they do something. Maybe you haven't unlocked what I'm seeing.

  • @Eskeletor_210
    @Eskeletor_210 2 месяца назад

    Brings back memories

  • @EngageTV
    @EngageTV 2 месяца назад

    Hey Ace what recording device do u use? Elgato? And which editing software? Sony Vegas?

    • @TheXclusiveAce
      @TheXclusiveAce 2 месяца назад

      Yes and yes. I use the Elgato 4k60 pro mk.2 and Sony Vegas

    • @EngageTV
      @EngageTV 2 месяца назад

      @@TheXclusiveAce do you recommend both? Or is there better options (i plan to make xDefiant PS5 videos & stream)

    • @TheXclusiveAce
      @TheXclusiveAce 2 месяца назад +1

      I definitely reccomend elgato products (I’m not affiliated with them in any way). Vegas is the best beginner editing software in my opinion as it’s super intuitive to use. There’s definitely better video editing software out there that allow you to do more advanced things but they take a lot more time and effort to learn compared to Vegas

    • @EngageTV
      @EngageTV 2 месяца назад

      @@TheXclusiveAce thank you sir!

  • @dallas.m4315
    @dallas.m4315 Месяц назад

    when i use them on rebirth my crosshair is like a regular assault rifle crosshair how do i fix?

  • @Delcatty16
    @Delcatty16 2 месяца назад

    I'm not sure exactly which one, but I'm sure there's at least one optic attachment that helps with sprint to fire time, couldn't tell you which one and also couldn't tell you if it was available for this weapon or not, but might be worth having a browse through the optics to see if any actually do help.

  • @AlexLee-dc2vb
    @AlexLee-dc2vb 2 месяца назад

    it's so awesome that they brought back the Models

  • @scribble71891
    @scribble71891 Месяц назад

    I never thought they would bring back the models in all their op glory to mwiii. I missed the chance to run them in mw2 pre-patch, I won't lose it again.

  • @danielballestas5532
    @danielballestas5532 2 месяца назад

    The aftermarket Ares scope does indeed give you 0.00 min spread, but it has visible lasers, so perhaps it can be used with the suppressed build.

  • @darkkid7872
    @darkkid7872 День назад

    How do you make your crosshair like that?

  • @Honeneko.
    @Honeneko. 2 месяца назад +1

    I like using a sight with an integrated laser, instead of a using a laser from the dedicated slot. Alternatively, I like to use the Bryson Improved Choke to gain some spread; 1.4 minimum hipfire with laser or laser integrated sight.
    What I like most, is that enough time passed for people to know that this conversion exists. Unlike with the Jak Outlaw.

  • @discgolfkev
    @discgolfkev 2 месяца назад

    How usable are they in warzone?

  • @CelestialRose42
    @CelestialRose42 2 месяца назад +2

    For my loadout, I put a giant scope on them because it looks hillarious while you flipping them.

  • @FrankW3st
    @FrankW3st 2 месяца назад

    If you have the Match Point blueprint then equip the warden aftermarket part it lets you keep the guard attachment with it for some reason.

  • @xebenatrosxeracroft5178
    @xebenatrosxeracroft5178 2 месяца назад

    Where do you get that magma like skin that was on the weapon during the weapon custom screen? Unless it was a seasonal thing I may have missed or something.

    • @Colindalugia
      @Colindalugia 2 месяца назад

      Was a limited time event which required you to get an absurd amount of XP to get. It was over 1 million xp

    • @xebenatrosxeracroft5178
      @xebenatrosxeracroft5178 2 месяца назад

      @@Colindalugia Jesus, must've been up during a time I wasn't able to even attempt, if it was up in February , then yeah, I missed out big time.

    • @Colindalugia
      @Colindalugia 2 месяца назад

      @@xebenatrosxeracroft5178 It was back in January, and was one of the grindiest camo to ever get. I got it due to a lot of Double XP tokens, but Lord it took forever

    • @Colindalugia
      @Colindalugia 2 месяца назад

      @@xebenatrosxeracroft5178 I remember grinding for it, it was painful as hell and happened back in January. Stockpiled Double XP tokens and went into Zombies for that grind. It was painful

  • @BigothyArchibaldBusiness
    @BigothyArchibaldBusiness 2 месяца назад

    Honestly I'm very curious to see where they go with balancing this and the Bal. The Revenger kit is still pretty good and hasn't seen much in the way of MAJOR nerfs or buffs. But considering this is a shotgun I wonder if that will affect their view when adjusting it if they think it's deserving.

  • @orestodomundo6652
    @orestodomundo6652 2 месяца назад

    ACE your ping values are really high, are you not using your Netduma?

    • @TheXclusiveAce
      @TheXclusiveAce 2 месяца назад +1

      No, I can't find games with crossplay off and my Netduma filtering at the same time and I'd rather keep crossplay off than geo-filter

  • @SaLaJim1010
    @SaLaJim1010 2 месяца назад +3

    Remember to put a scope on it so u will get improved range and drip.
    Edit: holy I was playing and wacthing this at the same time and I got a 178m kill with the slug in ground war

  • @BSoloe
    @BSoloe 2 месяца назад +3

    These get the best reactions too lol

  • @foxmulder2941
    @foxmulder2941 2 месяца назад

    What's a good shotgun to use for the shotgun challenges ?

    • @demetriusprime1505
      @demetriusprime1505 Месяц назад +1

      Lockwood 680 even though its the weakest of the lockwoods for some stupid reason it's the best

  • @MambaBlanca
    @MambaBlanca 2 месяца назад +1

    I don't know if they are too overpowered because hipfire aim speed is way faster, you can slow it down but but that will also mess with your aim. Those who are accurate at hipfiring will do well.

  • @i-firebrand-i5543
    @i-firebrand-i5543 2 месяца назад

    Peak performance imo is running a scope on these as well as the laser and the crown muzzle, I know these are gonna get absolutely mutilated by a nerf soon but I'll be damned if this isn't some of the most fun I've had in a long time with Call of Duty

  • @thebigman2598
    @thebigman2598 2 месяца назад

    I got the original MW2 4 days early & I was running around with the akimbo rangers for days before the masses even unlocked them!! I was dominating every single match I played and it was hilarious hearing the lobbies moaning about them lol
    They nerfed them into oblivion though, rightly so, they were ridiculous.
    This reminds me of that first week or so back in the day 😌

  • @IAmMadMattDog
    @IAmMadMattDog 2 месяца назад

    i wonder if the 35ms sprint out time is a typo and it should be 350, which would be in line with the other shotguns

  • @ilexcorp
    @ilexcorp 2 месяца назад

    I have unlocked it but for God's sake I can't find the weapon that you can equip it with. I have tried all the shotguns, but this conversionkit just nowhere to be found...

  • @zoanth4
    @zoanth4 2 месяца назад +2

    Been running 5.0 kd with these things. Thr modular vest for infinite frag nades and smoke nades is fun on it. great for secondary too!

    • @Runestuf999
      @Runestuf999 2 месяца назад

      I run Compression Vest and it feels like I’m basically cheating when I chain multiple kills and come out completely unscathed on the other side 😅

    • @paddyod16
      @paddyod16 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Runestuf999 you are, basically

  • @TheIntratec9
    @TheIntratec9 2 месяца назад

    @TheXclusiveAce Does the Intclas laser optic tighten pellet spread?

    • @Honeneko.
      @Honeneko. 2 месяца назад

      It tightens hipfire spread bc of the integrated laser.

    • @TheXclusiveAce
      @TheXclusiveAce 2 месяца назад +3

      Yep! It's got the same hipfire stats as the Verdant Hook Laser so it could be used in place of that for the exact same spread values but the slight downside is it could very slightly obstruct your view, unlike the Verdant Hook

    • @TheIntratec9
      @TheIntratec9 2 месяца назад

      @@TheXclusiveAce I see. I've also been hearing recommendations that the ares clear shot and the Lockwood 300 scopes reduce recoil by even the tiniest margin - would it theoretically still work?

    • @TheXclusiveAce
      @TheXclusiveAce 2 месяца назад

      Maybe but recoil is such an insignificant stat with the Wardens and I would say the visibility reduction of the optics would easily offset the tiny recoil improvement.

    • @TheIntratec9
      @TheIntratec9 2 месяца назад

      @@TheXclusiveAce And the range of chokes such as Xten Full Choke would be irrelevant as well?

  • @zackp4798
    @zackp4798 2 месяца назад

    So did they fix the double fire accuracy bug?

  • @konatr0n
    @konatr0n 2 месяца назад

    Are you going to make a vid on all terrain boots

    • @TheXclusiveAce
      @TheXclusiveAce 2 месяца назад

      Done: ruclips.net/video/I-o2E_rVmAA/видео.html

  • @rutimcgamer2419
    @rutimcgamer2419 2 месяца назад +1

    I onced had an idea that maybe if they add a new weapon, they shoukd buff the other weapons in it's class. new smg? buff 'em all. new kit? well it's a shotgun, might as well bust up the other ones
    I dunno how practicle it is but i thought id share

  • @one-rv2bx
    @one-rv2bx 2 месяца назад

    The Tarantino animation is *chefs kiss*

  • @hmbigears
    @hmbigears 2 месяца назад +1

    Never missing an XclusiveAce video

  • @Pariah_ANT
    @Pariah_ANT 2 месяца назад

    I run the exact same attachments but my spread is no where near that tight.

  • @kjigl
    @kjigl 2 месяца назад

    The intlaz sights work good to

  • @dan_da_man7928
    @dan_da_man7928 2 месяца назад

    I’d honestly like to see either the incidiary rounds or ball rounds buffed. Since we’re so limited in attachments it feels sad only using 2. On the other hand, if they open up some other options I’d be interested to see what they do (like Aftermarket part exclusive attachments)

  • @hyper-beast64
    @hyper-beast64 2 месяца назад +1

    I’ve tried the slugs point blank basically I just shot the guns individually and got a kill even In long to mod range but it’s actually fun with slugs its so goofy

  • @raikoh05
    @raikoh05 2 месяца назад +1

    Let good things be good

  • @mela6979
    @mela6979 2 месяца назад

    With some scopes how come it shows that it helps with hip fire and other things with hip fire it shows on the stats.

    • @Honeneko.
      @Honeneko. 2 месяца назад

      Some have integrated lasers that only show while in ADS

  • @Meravokas
    @Meravokas 2 месяца назад

    I think one of the good ways to balance this out would be to either decrease the rate of fire so you aren't just kill chaining potentially. And/or making it so you can't get THAT tight of a hip fire spread and knocking back the sprint out speed a bit. I actually haven't played since the update after hearing about the spawns and connection issues, but just seeing it on paper, I feel like those would be even trade offs.

  • @metalmac2347
    @metalmac2347 2 месяца назад

    I’m so glad these are insane for the moment. I wanted them to be. Balance is a good thing but as long as the Mors with the slug can still one shot anywhere above the knee and be insanely fast on top of that, balance is out the door. Let these be busted, the most fun I’ve had in this game

  • @mdpatterson99999
    @mdpatterson99999 2 месяца назад

    Ace, serious question. Did you ever actually play with the originals pre patch 1.07 in 2009? If not, no big deal but these are not even in the same league as those were and should be noted. They aren’t even as good as the post patch one’s you can still go back and play with today.

    • @TheXclusiveAce
      @TheXclusiveAce 2 месяца назад +1

      Of course! They had a range cap a 20m and the Wardens are definitely better than the post-patch 1887s. The thing that made them so powerful pre-patch despite the fact that they didn't have the same range as the Wardens do now is they were extremely consistent with a wider spread so they were far more forgiving and you only needed to have the enemy somewhat centered on screen. The Wardens have better potential but are less forgiving and require more precision than the pre-patch 1887s.

    • @mdpatterson99999
      @mdpatterson99999 2 месяца назад

      @@TheXclusiveAce okay, the universe is saved lol. Everyone saying these are as good as the pre patch OG 1887’s either never experienced them in game or was the corner camper. Theses were snipers on just about every MP map and with the right perks were the fastest rushing weapon for what seemed like at least a month. They also were not reduced to a .410 damage.

  • @inconspicuous7464
    @inconspicuous7464 2 месяца назад +1

    Just for reference, each warden shoots 4 pellets (8 together) before mw3, a majority of shotguns fired 8 pellets. The range the wardens have is similar to the max range the model 680 had in mw19, but you had to aim down sight and be dead on accurate to get the one shot kill. It's not as crazy op as you guys think, it's basically the return of the mw19 model 680

    • @paddyod16
      @paddyod16 2 месяца назад

      "had to aim down sight and be dead on accurrate" bro these guns are broken

  • @arandomwatcher8174
    @arandomwatcher8174 2 месяца назад

    There is a laser that gives CQC hipfire accuracy, quite good.

  • @CamperN00b47
    @CamperN00b47 2 месяца назад +15

    The slug round seems like a textbook example of a well-designed gimmick: the headshot niche is adequately situational & unlikely to be pulled off consistently but the payoff of 1sk at any range is hefty enough to warrant in-depth skillful usage while still remaining fairly tamed otherwise (3 body shots at most ranges).

    • @Mikdefish
      @Mikdefish 2 месяца назад

      Good point

    • @ferniefabian5503
      @ferniefabian5503 2 месяца назад +1

      I would agree if the mors wasn't in the game

  • @jenlvjim
    @jenlvjim 2 месяца назад

    I don't see a Lockwood mark 2 . Where is it? I only see Lockwood 300 and Lockwood 680

  • @Rundas045
    @Rundas045 2 месяца назад +7

    I agree in that I definitely don't want these nerfed into the ground. They do need some tuning but I don't want them to be rendered useless. I want to use these whether they're good or not, and I don't want to be struggling to use them if they're useless.

    • @Tigliz12
      @Tigliz12 2 месяца назад +2

      Tuning to these devs is nerfing to the ground.

    • @Rundas045
      @Rundas045 2 месяца назад

      @@Tigliz12 they're terrible with balance.

    • @paddyod16
      @paddyod16 2 месяца назад

      10m 1 shot range please

  • @Saucedgg
    @Saucedgg 2 месяца назад

    In zombies mode when you pack a punch these it is bugged, for some reason once packed, reloading will only ever put 2 shells in at a time which is incredibly infuriating idk it pisses me off so I thought I’d put it here lol

  • @nicholasborrelli7544
    @nicholasborrelli7544 Месяц назад +4

    These were just nerfed into the ground....-__-

  • @paulphillips1075
    @paulphillips1075 2 месяца назад

    Was waiting for this one!

  • @captainkill21
    @captainkill21 2 месяца назад +17

    They are decent. They aren’t insane at all until they fix the bug where using both at once causes it to miss entirely or get ghost bullets

    • @TheXclusiveAce
      @TheXclusiveAce 2 месяца назад +48

      They fixed that on Friday

    • @captainkill21
      @captainkill21 2 месяца назад +4

      @@TheXclusiveAce I’ll have to hop back on again! Haven’t used them since Thursday

    • @zaneharris1562
      @zaneharris1562 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@captainkill21 Can confirm they fixed them because before they were inconsistent. Now whenever I use them I'm always consistent.

    • @Tigliz12
      @Tigliz12 2 месяца назад

      They are better than release however if I’m damaged I get lots of hit markers or nothing. If I am under an effect I get hm at very close range.

    • @115blinker
      @115blinker 2 месяца назад +2

      Funny enough that bug actually kinda balanced the gun

  • @Dad_inbetween_games
    @Dad_inbetween_games Месяц назад

    But are they viable in warzone ?

  • @REXVNGEE
    @REXVNGEE 2 месяца назад +1

    At first I was like “ehh there kinda ass” now I’m eating my own words 😂 cause god damn those shotguns are insane

  • @theiviachine
    @theiviachine 2 месяца назад

    Haven’t even seen these in the game yet and I’m already getting PTSD

  • @drunkborb5463
    @drunkborb5463 2 месяца назад

    I actually like the Bryson Improved choke better. Maybe it's just a placebo but there's a little bit more forgiveness on the spread so I can be a bit less accurate I feel like, while not giving up TOO much accurace that I lose as much deep range potential

  • @asdfghjkl2261
    @asdfghjkl2261 2 месяца назад

    wtf why are the sprint to fire times SOOO BAD on the other shotguns

  • @ketlyn38
    @ketlyn38 2 месяца назад

    Supressor helps with bullet drop and the other ammo type that's not incendiary won't have any drop at all but will still oneshot headshot infinitely far away

  • @alflobitoskate
    @alflobitoskate 2 месяца назад +2

    fun dumb stuff like this is what cod needs

    • @Tigliz12
      @Tigliz12 2 месяца назад

      Bro we used to have fun with goofy load outs, I used everything in the game. Now it’s too competitive in core. If your not meta you always get crapped on.

  • @counterman-namreview516
    @counterman-namreview516 2 месяца назад

    there is one scope which improve gun kick control and recoil iirc

  • @zaneharris1562
    @zaneharris1562 2 месяца назад +10

    They just need to buff the other shotguns range potential and sprint out speed. The only one that doesnt need it is the haymaker jak kit because its already insane. I love the chaos these are bringing but the other shotguns have been neutered since launch and I think its time they get a buff

    • @PADDYPOOP
      @PADDYPOOP 2 месяца назад

      Completely agree

    • @HowManyToasters
      @HowManyToasters 2 месяца назад

      Bro if every shotgun was effective at 30m nobody would use anything else

    • @zaneharris1562
      @zaneharris1562 2 месяца назад

      @@HowManyToasters that's not what I'm implying. I'm suggesting a 10-20% increase to range and 15% sprintout speed buff. Restricting shotguns on certain maps would also help avoid cancerous shipment games. If they do nerf the models the range should be 22 meters for a 2 shot kill.

    • @PADDYPOOP
      @PADDYPOOP 2 месяца назад +1

      @@HowManyToasters not effective, but useable at all. Ironically these akimbo shotguns are more effective at range then they are at close range.

    • @asdfghjkl2261
      @asdfghjkl2261 2 месяца назад

      @@HowManyToasters i hate shotguns too but you have to admit they're really weak in this game. like i think they have to be on the weaker side for the health of the game, but the scale is tipped too far in that direction

  • @micheal7517
    @micheal7517 2 месяца назад

    today i was testin this gun out with the ammo types, which as you said, suck. turns out i ended up in one of your games!! 😱 i went so negative bc of how hype i was to finally run into you. 😂 dropped 80kills next game tho.

  • @omgANT7508
    @omgANT7508 2 месяца назад +1

    Some sights give you bonuses so you should still use them guys

  • @impekk4ble
    @impekk4ble 2 месяца назад

    Yeah you the goat I was running slug rounds and I was like this gun is ass. But then I saw you break it down. And now I feel stupid asf 😂😂😂

  • @USClight
    @USClight 2 месяца назад

    As a casual gamer, a couple of hrs a week on the weekends, I never get anything unlocked before they get nerfed. I would have liked to try these in the current state.

  • @SlickEd91
    @SlickEd91 2 месяца назад

    A lot of non call of duty vets don't know how op the original 1887 were back in original cod mw2 days

  • @jacobmiller6916
    @jacobmiller6916 2 месяца назад

    These things are so damn fun in zombies! However, i was playing and i lagged spiked so bad i got kicked off the servers and got a "Client Command Overflow" error and lost everything because of it. Really hoping the servers get fixed soon

    • @MetalHead4lifeGamer
      @MetalHead4lifeGamer 2 месяца назад

      Unfortunately they're probably not gonna fix the servers for zombies and just ignore it until the next zombies update. I've had fun with zombies but on top of the lag, crashing and constant grinding trying to get more schematics it's just too much

  • @graysonbuttercheeks3136
    @graysonbuttercheeks3136 2 месяца назад

    Check out the akimbo Daemons since they buffed them…the range seems to be improved.

  • @Grandmaster_Vic
    @Grandmaster_Vic 2 месяца назад

    I’m just gonna abuse these guns like I did with the Pre-patch akimbo Models from MW2. These things are ridiculous especially now with how we’re able to add attachments. I just hope they keep them OP for like a week for Nostalgia sake.

  • @ralts6464
    @ralts6464 2 месяца назад

    Some optics boost movement speed. Better to have that on since you have space anyway

  • @ITrifle
    @ITrifle 2 месяца назад

    I don't got multiplayer so all I play is warzone n it's so hard to unlock the Lockwood mk2s , I gotta grt 5 kills wit a marksman in 1 life 10 times

  • @suna9555
    @suna9555 2 месяца назад

    I kind of hope they don’t nerf these or atleast not much because these feel amazing and fun to use even if other people are using em too especially in WZ too

  • @Matyas_Doktor
    @Matyas_Doktor 2 месяца назад

    Definitely better attachments for this gun. I use the stov laser box and the choke that tightens spread but increases range 2%.
    The spread is 1.4⁰ but it adds so much forgiveness if you are not pinpoint accurate. It is the most consistent and best feeling setup.
    Some other RUclipsrs like handler run it with these attachments

  • @adeelmajeed5341
    @adeelmajeed5341 2 месяца назад +4

    I think everyone wanted it to be broken for a month, but if they do balance it I also don't want them to destroy it completely.....
    i think 18m of 2 shot and 3.5m of 1 shot should be a fair balance and sprint to fire should remain how it is cuz it should be a redeeming factor among other shotguns
    Edit: it means it should always remain good but not op

    • @raptonsoul2557
      @raptonsoul2557 2 месяца назад

      personal I think they should keep the 29 meter hit range but make that a 3 and 4 hit range since they are firing 410. (for some reason)

    • @KyleHappy
      @KyleHappy 2 месяца назад

      @@raptonsoul2557 So if this thing fires .410 Boreshot, then what is even the point of the Riveter other than "full-auto but peppering damage"? Compared to this thing, I can throw the Riveter into lava right now.

    • @raptonsoul2557
      @raptonsoul2557 2 месяца назад

      @@KyleHappy it’s a hybrid gun between shotguns and ARs that provides a lot more forgiveness and tend to have very good ads spread. Also it gets a notable buff if you equip incendiary arounds making even better rush gun.

  • @Welshmanshots
    @Welshmanshots Месяц назад

    Not all optics are useless the Cronen intlas helps with hipfire even if the laser isn't visible anymore but i do run into people using sniper scopes for some odd reason.