Zig Zag Railway Derailment 25th January 1996
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- In the world of Steam Preservation and Heritage Railways serious derailments are something not often thought about. The need for robust safety systems and staff training are just as important as any large commercial railway.
On the 25th January 1996, Zig Zag suffered its first major incident involving a passenger train. Fortunately, no one was injured and the lessons learnt from that day enabled the railway to improve it's safety systems and crew training.
This video, compiled by ZZR member Trevor Ashby, chronicles the re-railing exercise undertaken by Zig Zag members with assistance from the State Rail Authority NSW Breakdown Gang (Lithgow).
Getting 1072 back on to the tracks and effecting repairs to the permanent way continued into the night. The following morning after re-certification of the track by the Department of Transport, services resumed on the railway for Australia Day.
Yes, I see the problem, the engine zigged, when it should have zagged, causing it to derail.
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Good explination
Massive brain!
I laughed way more than I should of at that
You missed your train…..
Simply fascinating, steam trains are "old school" and so was the method of getting it back on track. Great to watch this video.
Thanks for putting this up. Incredible that it even exists! I remember years ago seeing a photo of the engine on its side in the cutting, but I never imagined someone had filmed the operation to get it back on the rails.
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Thank You I am 75 years young and have never see anything like this Thank You
Excellent work! Thanks for the video, it brought back fond memories of when I worked on the General Roca railway here in Argentina. He drove the wrecker's crane.
Argentina - I bet there was some beautiful landscape enroute?
@@greghayes9118 Depending on the area that touched us, for example, in the South of Argentina, arid and very cold landscapes, if it was hot and humid in the North, there are all kinds of landscapes, as in all large countries. The routes here are very enjoyable. Greetings
@@JoseLuisLeyenberger Much like Australia.
great video. Magnificent operation to get back on track. Congratulations to these Australian railwaymen.
When man gets together with fellow man to pull difficult tasks to heel, the outcome can be quite astonishing! Such a pity that all is so easily negative action compared to this positive action and outcome! Great team work at play on this large scale model railway, run by serious enthusiasts
, Cheers
The poor Zig Zag has had an incredibly horrid history. Thank God for modern hydraulic jacks to save old steamers.
Yeah.
NO FUCKING WAY ITS HIM I USED TO WATCH YOU AS A KID-
Yoo dude
@@Mr.Neil1
Lots of happy memories at the zig zag railway Glad they got it sorted great work!
No other better symphony given by a steam locomotive than a 3-cylinder one. Exquisite !
How can you joke about this !!??
Mahtava suoritus ja hienoa tiimityötä. Kiitos videosta. Oskari
This vid maybe long but it captures the experience very well.
The lack of dialog is the strongest feature of the video. The silence gives a feeling of great sadness. Almost like some large creature that has met its demise. I have experienced a similar feeling at some of the fatal crashes I have attended.
What distinguishes this disaster is that the iron beast is saved by diligent skilled and dedicated workers or lovers of the beast!!
One odd thing is that the train is heading in a different direction than then in the beginning of the video.
Thanks for sharing this with the world.
I have watched this vid several times.
What an unique experience to watch.
The only disappointment after watching the wheel combinations refitted to the tracks was that you did not show the rescued vehicle being put back into the works depot. Great viewing and we still have many memories of making the trip from top to bottom on several occasions during the late 8p0's and early 90's.
Serious dedication.. by all.. and a worth while watch by anyone interested in rail (steam engines are not light even compared to modern freight rail cars).
I don't remember hearing about this, but recently rode the Zig Zag again when it re launched after more than 10 years
Well, obviously track occupation management went wrong and it would be interesting to know why. What went wrong, not whose fault was it. Big kudos to the team that got her back on the track. Bloody hard overnight work. Glad the Australia Day Gala went off ok.
you'd think they'd say what and why with video post, had 25yrs to come up with something since.
PS.
It's just amazing that we have the knowhow to harness pneumatic power via designing jacks that can actually lift such tonnage and right it on the rails again !! Before pneumatics they had to do it all with derricks and block and tackled cables which likely took 10 tens more than what these guys require..
"A railway zig zag or switchback, is a railway operation in which a train is required to switch its direction of travel in order to continue its journey. While this may be required purely from an operations standpoint, it is also ideal for climbing steep gradients with minimal need for tunnels and heavy earthworks." -- Wikipedia
The Zig Zag Railway is a preserved railway in Australia that runs steam.
I did no research yet I could understand that this is a railway called the Zig Zag Railway and not speaking about a switchback.
Jesus...im a car mech...and its scary enough getting under a car without jack stands.
Luckily the locomotive did not tople on the other side and no one was crushed. A lot of enthisiasm.
Lucky was stopping with the smoke box taking the beating from the rock outcropping and not just a few feet further along where the boiler jacket might have been gouged and split open in a boiler explosion.
Guter Beitrag, weiter so! Toll
Its so sad to see that damage.
As Thomas rounded the bend, he saw the fat controller standing in the middle of the railway line, gazing at the sky like a fool. Thomas knew there was no chance to stop in time, all he could do was blow his whistle as hard as he could, and hurl obscenities at the fat obstruction. But it was too late, he barely got out a good solid FU when he collided full speed head on with the fat sky gazing trumpet. Thomas was expecting to be covered in controller goo and end up looking like the Halloween special, but the fat controllers enormous belly absorbed the force with barely a ripple. Thomas however, was not so lucky. His twisted body lay on it's side with steam escaping from places he was fairly sure it shouldn't be, his bogies were no longer attached and his wheels were all over the place. Thomas was not amused as he noticed the fat controller was now laughing and pointing at him - what's so funny ? Thomas hurled some more abuse at him but that only seemed to make him laugh even harder. It took hours of terribly hard work to haul Thomas's carcass back onto his wheels and back on the tracks, but eventually the brave and determined workers did it, and Thomas was towed back to the locomotive sheds, arriving just in time for supper. He noticed that some of the other engines were sniggering and asked, rather angrily, what they thought was so funny ? Henry couldn't hold it any longer and burst into fits of hysterics, whilst Edward told Thomas that they had put some magic mushrooms in the fat controller's tea that morning 'for a laugh'. For a laugh ! exclaimed Thomas ... you think this is funny ? I was off my bloody wheels !!! Gordon chirped in "so was he from what I've heard" Henry rolled on the floor waggling his wheels in the air laughing uncontrollably. Thomas smiled - he was beginning to see the funny side. "Apparently" said Percy, "he wondered off into the desert looking for his spirit guide or something. If he doesn't get his enormous ass back here pretty soon he's gonna be dingo fodder I reckon" Thomas chuckled, "that'll teach the pudding guzzling bell end" he said, then started making dingo howling noises whilst Annie made slurping noises and all the engines laughed 'till they wet themselves.
Best comment of all so far 😁
@@johnflynn5750 Why thank you 🚂 I try to amuse, or annoy, but amuse this time 🤪 It was an interesting vid by the way - it was quite amazing how they got, er, Thomas back on the rails.
That was cool to see thank you for uploading :D
Thankyou for posting this video. I would like to know what happened and where the driver and fireman OK? The steam train looked so sad derailed.
Agree felt bad seeing this.
@@donwhitmire978 Noobody was hurt badly and judging by the amount of smoke and pollution, what with global warming problems, the opportunity could be used to cut the loco up for scrap institu. Thus avoiding further pollution.
@@PreservationEnthusiast wanker
@@tonyforno3387 No, probably the best way would be to use the rail line to bring in a wrecking train. A crane with electro magnet can lift off pieces of scrap and crane it into trucks behind. Teams of torchmen slice into the loco and other debris to liberate new scrap. Doing it this way removes the need for really heavy lifting gear.
@@spiritofsteam There's 2000 in the UK alone. 400 mainline and many 100's of industrials.
Probably 20k to 30k or more in the world, many still burning coal and polluting, causing global warming climate change.
Then there was a massive crash luckily, no one was hurt, but the engine had sustain damage to the wheels and valve gear as well as the boiler sustained some dents. The engine was sitting there for a long time before they go help to put the engine back on track
These lorries look to have come out of the mines and are of a much smaller caliber then the locomotive. In a curve they are easily pulled out of the track, something that I also experienced on my miniture Half O railroad tracks.
Two trains, same track same place, someone and more than one was not paying attention to block working for sure.
Sadly, it wouldn't be the last time it happened
Full marks.
What would I give for that jacking equipment, pure magic, thanks gents a great video
Very interesting thank you. That was some heavy engineering work!
To my UK eyes the DMU at 1:17:54 looks very strange. Reminds me of a specific alien comic character I have seen in the past but can't place now.🤔
That is an ex Queensland rail 2000 class dmu. There should be a Wikipedia entry for it.
Used to be the shape of Joh’s head but since he left office QR smoothed out the bumps.
@@mobiletransportvideo don't need wiki, can just look it up normally
Just give a railroad man a jack and a place to set it and he’ll move anything.
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I have sympethy for this poor steam engine ,as I love railway.
Y al final que paso con la locomotora accidentado 1072 , se reparo o quedo fuera de servicio ???. 😓😓?
Amazing job. Great team, big people, Engineers, Technicians, and workers holy Cowboy, man!
Good job John Flynn!
“How, in the name of all that’s holy, did you do that?”
“Well it’s funny actually…”
Well done to all those involved.... you know 27 years on, I reckon no one would know how to go about getting that done these days.... most young people can't even add up or speak coherently
If that’s your argument then I would think that the current generation would be perfectly capable of generating such a collision
You’d be surprised at what young people are doing in rail preservation today. I recently enjoyed a trip with a group who have dozens of hard-working volunteers in their teens and twenties, and the trip was well-organised and run by these young folks. People in their thirties are strong on the ground too. So, it’s unfair to make silly generalisations.
Nice work in a tough spot
NSW Breakdown Gang use exactly same gear we use on UK breakdown , even packing looks same , only thing thought was bit risky was standing next to beam while using push pull jack .We always keep clear as once had Loco catch the rail , so loco couldn't move and the push pull jack throw been out sideways pretty rapidly would bust your leg if it hit you. Great work by breakdown gang though is such confined space ,well using jack on its side to right loco ,them jacks are heavier than they look , its risky job re railing seen few Loco,s waggons fall off jacks ,just got make sure all clear when jacking/moving
Look,s interesting the ZIg Zag was out in NSW 2006 in Katoomba , don,t think its far from ZigZag regret not going on it
@Aussie Pom Our breakdown gang covered area within about 3 hours of our depot it was same as yours with fitters labourers electricians all volunteers , was good money for call-out , sometimes we would travel further to work with other gangs
Do miss being on breakdown , had some rough ones but on the whole enjoyed it ,we worked well as team to get job done , yes we took risks with Loco/waggons , equipment but defiantly not with men
This is so Awesome
They were texting and missed the curve
Ha ha ! Hee hee ! Ain't you funny !! You're lucky you weren't on the train !!
Very nice beautiful fantastic locomotive powerful 🚂🚂🚂
super video .................
Obviously hit a work train and the signals were at stop from the video footage. What was the cause? Were the drivers injured?
All signals would have been put to danger in the event of an accident ??
There is meant to be a briefing at the start of the day.
Why did it derail ? What ever happened..?
Boa tarde, sou do Brasil, e tenho assistido muitos vídeos de ferrovias, mas essa é a primeira vez que vejo um trabalho desse, eu já ouvi músicas que fala do trem fora da linha, mas agora eu vi que é uma realidade.
Exquisite
Amazing
Такую машину сломали...негодяи!Это же музейная вещь!!!😢😮
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to San Fernando ...
if you miss this one, you'll
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to San Fernando ..."
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Surely some form of block working or single line token system was in use? If that was the case it would take at least two people breaking the rules for such a crash to occur. Doesn't give you much faith in the training of staff or the operating rules! I know from experience that the clearing up job is one of the worst ones on the railway. Much better to have a good rule book and to ensure that staff are well versed in obeying the rules!
Ouch...looks expensive! Right said Fred.......
I Love It A Lot
EU SOU UM ADMIRADOR DE ESTRADA DE FERRO E ESTE VIDEO FOI MUITO BONITO , PARABENS.
I miss that old machine noise from the past. Is like being in a toy.
I guess that's why they call it the zigzag! Try not to rock and roll!
The guys standing next to crane thingy puling on carts were about dumb , if it breaks free and goes crashing they gunna get squished
How much damage to the engine? Was it fixable?
Yep, continued merrily steaming away for many years after this…
Poor train it looks so sad
They should have used a Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra to film this at night :-)
They are using the wrong sort of jack at the beginning when they are trying to re rail that first flat maintainance wagon !! They should be using a Tilt jack !! Also they should have taken all the stuff off the wagon, all the sleepers and other stuff ( l think I see another jack !) The extra weight just make the job harder ,especially when pumping the jack up ! With the jack they are using they should have a beam when the wagon is slid across once it's raised up on the jack !
We got stopped using our tilt jack told unsafe , also the plate layers trolley ( flat maintenance wagon) looks to low to get tilt jack under it or even beam trolley and jack under
To start with, you use what you got. If track jacks are all you have, then that is what you use. I have used track jacks for a lot of things other than strictly track. I have seen a lot of railroaders do the same thing. Track jacks are ubiquitous on a railroad, track crews, b&b crews, car crews, in shops, etc.
WERE THEY ABLE TO FIX IT?!!
What happened??
They are damn lucky it didn't flip over and roll down the embankment that steam loco !! l was about to ask why it didn't the l saw the shot from the front ! The rocks save it from flipping over !! It could have been much worse !!
Flagman, detonators, signals, manifest.
Love to see these steam wngines in use, they bring in so much revenue in tourism, people love to see these machines alive, not brainwashed into climate or green terrorism. Everything is getting politicised, race, gender, climate, vaccine mandates & lockdowns.
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Where abouts on the zig zag railway did this happen ?
I wonder how long State Rail would've taken to fix this mess up ..😂..? A week ?
@@johnnichol9412 what do you mean ..? I have read all there is to read on this incident and nowhere does it disclose the actual location along the track. I do recall the commentary saying near some points or something but it was of no use ...
23:48 The building on the left is Bottom Points Signal Box. 24:12 The railway crossing audio you can hear is from the mainline (not the Zig Zag Railway itself), which is on the opposite side of the depot. 24:34 When leaving Bottom Points platform, you would pass Bottom Points Signal Box on you right and then that corrugated shelter you can see in this timestamp. So just past the corrugated shelter heading from Bottom Points to Top Points. I hope that helps!
Thanks for that ...
Sure is a lot of people standing around.
شكرا على هل مشاهد الجميله
قمتم بعمل رائع
HOW !!? WHY ??!!
Паровоз в лепешку, а супермен идёт (и отряхивается так лениво)
How did this happen?
WOW that An't Good but those men @ work sure are!
By the mangle wreck I’m thinking speeding young inexperienced driver or skylarking
У нас очень похожее оборудование, UA
How the hell did this happen?
wow what a great video......
They not gonna buff that out
What happened?
the safety during the recovery was questionable at best . Why were 5 people just standing in the danger zone if something happens and the guy guiding the crane needs to run he will trip over all his bosses trying to get away then they all die.
What year did it happen
era uma vez,uma maria fumaça..
Wow
Equipe magnífica.
no speech why?
The amount of toxic smoke that left over the fertile forests, luckily they lasted a few years
You should be more concerned about deforestation in the Amazon forests -That is what is causing climate change, not a single locomotive.
Keith Lions the truth is that you are absolutely right I am with you friend 👍
You DO realize that trees transform carbon right 🤦♂️🤦♂️. STUPID greenies 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Who was at fault was this incident?
31°N
You zigged your last zag
oh my good 😮
35°NE
Așa, datorită lor celor de la Softronic mai pot ridica și eu capul și simți mândru că sunt român.
Pretty sure I recognised a few of the faces.
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Katasropfe ,wie konnten die den ein Bauzug übersehen?Und was war das denn für ein Bahnpersonal?Ich kann doch kein Zug auf ein Baustellen Gleis schicken.Waren die Leute alle Besoffen?
Fat controller must have been very upset.
Confusion and delay.
Колея узкая и синий TAKRAF не подогнать.
Que pena 😢
They zigged when they should have sagged.
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