Cancel culture in the world is hard enough but when your own supposed brothers in Christ turn on you that's got to hurt. These leaders signed up with pharmakeia for them to be acting this way.
Thank you. You are the first individual who has pointed this out. Sixty years I have been in this faith and have never known discipline top down like this. The problem is most of the church members do not know what proper church discipline is. The pastor is God to the majority of the church members and very rarely if ever are his actions challenged.
Right across the board..Some members of the conference are behaving as if they are God .I want to hear fro.m them if bulling is right .The local church to which they belong must act now .
Thank you brother Mark, I agree, wholeheartedly with what you have said. I have written letters to the conference leaders, Wilson, and Finley, and also Jim M in Michigan. This is heartbreaking and very, very upsetting. Thank you for taking a stand and speaking up. God bless you and your ministry.
I am more than impressed and blessed to know that there are still “seven thousand” that have not given in. Thank you brother for contributing with tangible and factual analysis regarding last day events in and out of our church.
I believe that the Remnant will emerge after the shaking is over. We don't have a remnant church now. These divisions we see now are God's way to create a remnant people out of the chaos
The whole bunch were a rebellious church. Many times those trying to get people to repent also need to repent for years of unfaithfulness Isaiah also included himself in repenting.
Thank you so much for this very informative and helpful information. I understand more fully the administrative processes available to members who have been left feeling helpless and confused. The presidents and leaders are speaking pompous and unbiblical words and
Thank you for holding those in leadership accountable. It's sad that we do not follow the steps that our church organisation has previously upheld. followed
I'm saying this because I was prevented from accessing the pulpit for 19 years by the North New Zealand Conference for none of the reasons quoted in the Church manual.
Because most of us live in our respective areas, we have no idea as to how widespread this stuff is. I'm only a church member who was disfellowshipped for asking the church to deal with the head elder (my blood brother) that was living in public adultery. Because I brought this up, I was disfellowshipped; this was the best thing that could have happened to me, though it was extremely painful. This experience put me on such a course with the Lord that may not have ever occurred had this not happened, and for that I am very grateful.
Thank you brother for encouraging God's people not to be bystanders but to act against illegal actions by the leadership. Our leadership is slowly but surely moving from the truth to apostasy. It's amazing how Ellen White prophecies are being fulfilled in the church.
Marko for President! Thank you for your righteous indignation in judgment, and eloquence in rightly dividing the word of truth. Proverbs 17:15 He who justifies the wicked, and he who condemns the just, Both of them alike are an abomination to the Lord.
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I am reading The Progressive Years 1862-1876 by Arthur L. White and in Chapter 25 on page 373 from the Review and Herald May 20th, 1873 James White is quoted: To speak more definitely, organization should be regarded by us as the means of uniting our forces, and fortifying ourselves against outside influences; and we should be careful never to use it in a manner to oppress, to rule, and to govern the consciences of honest men. Our organization would seem to have been hijacked for purposes it was not intended.
“Will the presidents of conferences and the ministers of the people seek the Lord earnestly, put away their sins, empty their souls of their idols? Or will they continue to go on half-hearted, neglecting solemn duties, while Satan triumphs, whispering to his evil angels, and to his human confederacy in evil, ‘Hopeless, Irredeemable Bankruptcy’?” - GCB October 1, 1896
Pastor Kolic, may God continue to bless you in this last day work and message, which we all should be giving. I've heard all who oppose the straight testimony given by Conrad Vine say the same thing. They say, "satan is doing everything he can to divide the church." I believe, at a point in time this may be the case, however we are in a time of religious emergency. If you have been watching the events that have been taking place, and keeping pace with the Light God has been giving us, we will discern that satan has accelerated his plans and efforts to sweep in the whole world under his banner. Because he knows that his time is short. Are sda exempt from satan's plans? No! So why would they insinuate and accuse C. Vine or whomever have been giving the straight testimony, calling for true confession and repentance, revival and reformation, which will bring us together, as dividing the church? Is it because the enemy has already taken full control of the structure and leaders? If so, then it makes sense why the accusations and insinuations would be so, and the peace and safety message is to "stay in the ship." Why would they tell us to "stay in the ship"? When God has told us through prophecy what is going to happen anyway. Yes, we are to be doing our best according to the counsels of Jesus, to warn our people. However, unity can only happen under Truth and Righteousness, through the guidance and leading of the Holy Spirit. However, we know how we can receive the Holy Spirit. Through obedience to the Word of God and the Testimonies of Jesus given for us for these last days. The Truth divides because there are those who can't bare the Truth because their works are evil. This why Jesus said it: “34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. ” Matthew 10:34-36 KJV Could this be the reason why our church structure has changed somehow? From a bottom-up structure to a top-down structure? Isn't this the reason for the kingly power being exerted? Is this the reason why issues are being dealt with without due process? Is this the reason why every other vile thing happening in our church are being ignored? Is it because they want to control our minds and tell us what to do? Isnt Jesus the corner stone of the structure? We have a True and Faithful Shepherd, Jesus who is the author and finisher of our faith, not man. We need to wakeup! We need to discern what's really going on.
Thank you for the rebuke of love and justice much needed within the church especially those in leadership. Unity is important in the church but when it's used to justify wrong doing ìts a crime. Those who built the tower of babel were in unity to do wrong and we know the result. The greatest need of the church now is men and women who are not afraid to call sin by its right name, and be true to their duties as the needle to the pole. God help us all to be that people
The question is: Who is in charge of the access to the pulpit of the local churches? Has a local church any role in making decisions who access its pulpit?
I'm glad this is in the public domain because it's time. I'm an SDA with no church to attend. Kicked out without the church following protocols. Wanted to officially rejoin the church, requested church leaders & members to aid in giving my girlfriend, her son & myself Bible studies so she could learn the doctrine since she was raised catholic and we were denied studies by numerous members and leaders. Censored Dr. Vine while denying evangelism.
Good luck holding Micheff accountable. I used to attend his home church. It's small, mostly dead, and is filled with retired higher up conference officials and sycophants. Those people will NEVER discipline Micheff.
Oh yeah, I don't have any illusions as to that anyone will actually have spiritual fortitude like Nehemiah. No, we have a bunch Eli's letting the wicked Hophni and Phineas run rampant. Their end will be similar, I'm afraid.
Nothing has changed. In was the Pharisees that stir the people against the gospels which Jesus Christ was preaching at that time. Has anything has changed since then in adventism? Nothing has changed. The Gospel must be preach throughout the world then the end will come, according the Holy Scriptures. Chapter 12 and 13 of Revelation must be preach throughout the whole world, then the end will come. "WBM*1213" Strong's Concordance.
Christ say, i told you beforehand,so when this happens it will not come on you unawares,the real people of God will stand for the truth nothing but the truth as it is in Christ Jesus who is the love man and the just man.
The unprofessional credibility of this publication is at stake..... Why the hell do they publish an article without evidence. Really speaks of lack of integrity!
Go to everone called preacher or teacher of the kids in your SDA church hold out 1 or ,2 hundred dollars .and Say " this is for the church .its yours if you right now quote all 326 words of the Exodus 20 ten commandments...you will cry that do few know them.the commandment keeping church! If they dont even know the commandants dont trust them with your kids....there are like over hundred thousands of sermons on line. Push a button they are set for the week ....sad.
That guy from the Michigan conference has by the title given by Jesus of "HIRELING". It is obvious that all he care for is the check, no the sheep. Sad to see the tares and the wheat diving in the right positions and some of our leader taking the goats side. We need to pray for them for time is short, very short and decisions are final. Oh Jesus, come soon!!
Church has a DUTY to restrain, not just to sit there and complain and act cowardly. Consider these verses about God dealings with ELI and why: 1Sam 3:13For I have told him that I will judge his house forever for the iniquity which he KNOWETH; because his sons made themselves vile, and he RESTRAINED them NOT. 1Sam 4 :13 And when he came, lo, Eli sat upon a seat by the wayside WATCHING: for his heart TREMBLED for the ARK OF GOD. And when the man came into the city, and told it, all the city cried out. ELI only WATCHED and TREMBLED. Too late for the ARK was gone to the Philistines. Taken by who? His sons whom HE NEVER RESTRAINED. AND HE DIED. We cannot sit and tremble either as pastors, elders, church members as our leaders continue to become hardened in sin and pride and by taking God's church into the hands of papacy and then boldly CANCEL God's servant who dare say the TRUTH. If we will not act, GOD WILL.
📯🕒⏳⌛🤍; SDA hierarchy general conference didn't have Faith in ALMIGHTY MAJESTY CREATOR INFALLIBLE AUTHORITY GOD JESUS CHRIST in the ⚰️💉 and left brethren to the wolves and Still Are & what about "next time" ?
Let's face it, there was only a handful who resisted the king of Babylon's food. You can be sure the leaders of the faith were saying, just sit down and shut up, but they took a stand. Praise God we have some people taking a stand and some with corage to stand against the leaders of the faith today to speak for the people who have suffered and are still suffering.
Consider Pastor Kelly and the Church Board of the do not even know how to act in this situation. Maybe they have not read it. They should know, but they don't. Could be. Let's pray for them. Blessings from Europe.
They may not be teaching eternal hell but Ganoun Diop, head of PARL which is a GC institution, is teaching that the Catholic Church has changed, and that is nearly as bad. They are in league with Rome.
How will we judge the wicked after millennium if we are unable to HOLD accountable our leaders who have shown direct rebellion towards God by censoring God's voice?? "The execution of the judgment will be at the close of the one thousand years.” EW 52.1 After the saints are changed to immortality and caught up together with Jesus, after they receive their harps, their robes, and their crowns, and enter the city, Jesus and the saints sit in judgment. The books are opened-the book of life and the book of death. The book of life contains the good deeds of the saints; and the book of death contains the evil deeds of the wicked. These books are compared with the statute book, the Bible, and according to that, men are judged. The saints, in unison with Jesus, pass their judgment upon the wicked dead." If we can't act in our local churches, how then are we qualified to judge the wicked at the end of all things?
One Andrews graduate pastor in Dallas told us that he knows how identify a discident: "one who comes to church with the Bible a Hymnal and a book of the Spirit of Prophesy. " Another Andrews Dictor in theology told us , also in Dallas that : Pornography is very good for couples to enhance marrieges." So Michigan is pretty messed up. We need to pray for them. Lod have mercy.
No one in this world can cancel my faith in Jesus Christ! Satan and his workers can try all they want to, but they will never succeed. I think a lot of undo publicity is being given to these men in power positions. The way to defuse bullying is to ignore them, turn your away from them and dust off your feet. Then pray that they will see the light once again.
At the same time, exposure to light will help God's people understand the issues. "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." Eph 5:11
These apostate Conference leaders and coward pastors, has brought shame and disgrace to God's words. They are the MODERN DAY SANHEDRIN, that's how the Jews treated Christ.
Are you without sin as you set yourself up to judge? Seems most people who have been redirecting their tithe for years or withholding their tithe for years are in favor of a Para church.
Not everyone in the SDA church believe that a Para church is the answer. No one should force someone to repent and use the tithe to try to get people to join the Para church. Satan does not care how the church gets crushed. The Para church also will have sinners in it as well. There are ditches on sll sides. Pray for Jesus Hand to be on the Wheel. 2 Selected Messages 390, 391.
No evidence that this was followed. Also not one word was said about the conference man in that conference and Conrad Vine did not say anything that was not true. The word Trespass means to sin or violate. The powers to be may not like what was said but it was not a sin or a violation. The priests of Jesus day didn't like what He or His disciples said. They killed them all except for John and God would not let him die and so they put him on an island to shut him up. All through history people have been silenced and murdered because people in high places didn't like what they said. God is always in power and His will and truth is made clear to all even in things that happen that seem bad.
That is the behaviour of Popery. Plain and simple
Which emanates from Satan.
Thank you so much for an informed, knowledgeable, spiritual voice of reason. May God bless you!
Amen‼️❤️🙏🏽❤️
Cancel culture in the world is hard enough but when your own supposed brothers in Christ turn on you that's got to hurt. These leaders signed up with pharmakeia for them to be acting this way.
Your presentation is superb, nothing but the truth, praise God, keep up the good work
Amen! Thank you for appraising us of these doctrines and upholding Truth 🕊
Amen, God is a God of justice
Thank you. You are the first individual who has pointed this out. Sixty years I have been in this faith and have never known discipline top down like this. The problem is most of the church members do not know what proper church discipline is. The pastor is God to the majority of the church members and very rarely if ever are his actions challenged.
We are supposed to unify in TRUTH.
Yes on the truth, not on policy! Thank you.
Right across the board..Some members of the conference are behaving as if they are God .I want to hear fro.m them if bulling is right .The local church to which they belong must act now .
Thank you brother Mark, I agree, wholeheartedly with what you have said. I have written letters to the conference leaders, Wilson, and Finley, and also Jim M in Michigan. This is heartbreaking and very, very upsetting. Thank you for taking a stand and speaking up. God bless you and your ministry.
agree. needs evidence for such a charge
I am more than impressed and blessed to know that there are still “seven thousand” that have not given in. Thank you brother for contributing with tangible and factual analysis regarding last day events in and out of our church.
I agree with you. Where is forgiveness and love.
I believe that the Remnant will emerge after the shaking is over. We don't have a remnant church now. These divisions we see now are God's way to create a remnant people out of the chaos
God has always had a remnant, those who follow Him, even from the establishment of heaven.
Discipline means to teach.
Soo Sad! Many heavenly blessings from Romania Eastern Europe ❤❤❤!
Until now , the GC shows no remorse 😢
Thank you so much for bringing these things to our attention. Blessings....
Excellent analysis. Church members need to understand these things. Thank you pastor.
He will be soon given a fair trial before GOD!!!!!
Amen
The accusing party might find them selves out side the new Jerusalem instead of inside unless they repent
Amen 🙏
I like the way you evidently title this issue. God bless you 🙏
So sad😢😢😢
This bullying has been following me for the last 40 years. I have been a member 38 years of my 82 year's in spite of overrulling men.
I know what u are saying. 😓
Amen! Help us Lord to stand for Ur truth.
Yes, they cannot cancel anyone because they are in apostasy and no one cancels them! Thank you for the message!
Samuel, your logic is in error.
@@earlysda Because you love apostasy in the church
I find your videos refreshing, real truth serum. I was baptized in May and am learning to breathe again, the breath of God!
Wonderful!
I agree with you my brother. God bless. ❤
As I'm reading the book of Ezekiel, it speaks volumes about what is happening in the conference,
Most definitely.
The whole bunch were a rebellious church. Many times those trying to get people to repent also need to repent for years of unfaithfulness
Isaiah also included himself in repenting.
Thank you so much for this very informative and helpful information. I understand more fully the administrative processes available to members who have been left feeling helpless and confused. The presidents and leaders are speaking pompous and unbiblical words and
Thank you for holding those in leadership accountable. It's sad that we do not follow the steps that our church organisation has previously upheld. followed
I'm saying this because I was prevented from accessing the pulpit for 19 years by the North New Zealand Conference for none of the reasons quoted in the Church manual.
Those who you submit yourself to are your masters. If you don’t submit yourself to the conference then they cannot cancel you.
It is happening more frequently these days,
Because most of us live in our respective areas, we have no idea as to how widespread this stuff is. I'm only a church member who was disfellowshipped for asking the church to deal with the head elder (my blood brother) that was living in public adultery. Because I brought this up, I was disfellowshipped; this was the best thing that could have happened to me, though it was extremely painful. This experience put me on such a course with the Lord that may not have ever occurred had this not happened, and for that I am very grateful.
Thank you brother for encouraging God's people not to be bystanders but to act against illegal actions by the leadership. Our leadership is slowly but surely moving from the truth to apostasy. It's amazing how Ellen White prophecies are being fulfilled in the church.
The evidence in the video is proof that the organization is in apostasy.
Marko for President! Thank you for your righteous indignation in judgment, and eloquence in rightly dividing the word of truth.
Proverbs 17:15 He who justifies the wicked, and he who condemns the just, Both of them alike are an abomination to the Lord.
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What is applied here is Catholic Cannon law
They are certainly acting like Catholics that is for sure.
It's happening in the Gulf States conference also.
Amen! Thank you for explaining..
I am reading The Progressive Years 1862-1876 by Arthur L. White and in Chapter 25 on page 373 from the Review and Herald May 20th, 1873 James White is quoted:
To speak more definitely, organization should be regarded by us as the means of uniting our forces, and fortifying ourselves against outside influences; and we should be careful never to use it in a manner to oppress, to rule, and to govern the consciences of honest men.
Our organization would seem to have been hijacked for purposes it was not intended.
What a great quote, thanks for sharing.
Their charge is him, exposing them and their corruption.That's why they can't have evidence because it would convict them further😅
Indeed.
“Will the presidents of conferences and the ministers of the people seek the Lord earnestly, put away their sins, empty their souls of their idols? Or will they continue to go on half-hearted, neglecting solemn duties, while Satan triumphs, whispering to his evil angels, and to his human confederacy in evil, ‘Hopeless, Irredeemable Bankruptcy’?” - GCB October 1, 1896
I am waiting to hear Br James and other commit on this presentation
...and sadly membership keeps funding this behavior.'
There is no salvation by denomination.
-- Walter V.
Pastor Kolic, may God continue to bless you in this last day work and message, which we all should be giving.
I've heard all who oppose the straight testimony given by Conrad Vine say the same thing. They say, "satan is doing everything he can to divide the church." I believe, at a point in time this may be the case, however we are in a time of religious emergency. If you have been watching the events that have been taking place, and keeping pace with the Light God has been giving us, we will discern that satan has accelerated his plans and efforts to sweep in the whole world under his banner. Because he knows that his time is short. Are sda exempt from satan's plans? No! So why would they insinuate and accuse C. Vine or whomever have been giving the straight testimony, calling for true confession and repentance, revival and reformation, which will bring us together, as dividing the church? Is it because the enemy has already taken full control of the structure and leaders? If so, then it makes sense why the accusations and insinuations would be so, and the peace and safety message is to "stay in the ship." Why would they tell us to "stay in the ship"? When God has told us through prophecy what is going to happen anyway. Yes, we are to be doing our best according to the counsels of Jesus, to warn our people. However, unity can only happen under Truth and Righteousness, through the guidance and leading of the Holy Spirit. However, we know how we can receive the Holy Spirit. Through obedience to the Word of God and the Testimonies of Jesus given for us for these last days. The Truth divides because there are those who can't bare the Truth because their works are evil. This why Jesus said it:
“34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. ” Matthew 10:34-36 KJV
Could this be the reason why our church structure has changed somehow? From a bottom-up structure to a top-down structure? Isn't this the reason for the kingly power being exerted? Is this the reason why issues are being dealt with without due process? Is this the reason why every other vile thing happening in our church are being ignored?
Is it because they want to control our minds and tell us what to do? Isnt Jesus the corner stone of the structure? We have a True and Faithful Shepherd, Jesus who is the author and finisher of our faith, not man.
We need to wakeup! We need to discern what's really going on.
Great point!
God is watching us we better be careful of His rath
Thank you for the rebuke of love and justice much needed within the church especially those in leadership. Unity is important in the church but when it's used to justify wrong doing ìts a crime. Those who built the tower of babel were in unity to do wrong and we know the result. The greatest need of the church now is men and women who are not afraid to call sin by its right name, and be true to their duties as the needle to the pole. God help us all to be that people
Thank you brother Marco 🙏
The question is: Who is in charge of the access to the pulpit of the local churches? Has a local church any role in making decisions who access its pulpit?
Yes local churches can make decisions. There is more I could have covered but there is a lack of time.
AMEN!
I have avocated for home churches for some time and preachers teaching advent teachings....nothing just song and dance....
By their fruits you shall know them. There are ravenous wolves in sheep clothing in the SDA Church. Matthew 7:15-20
I'm glad this is in the public domain because it's time. I'm an SDA with no church to attend. Kicked out without the church following protocols. Wanted to officially rejoin the church, requested church leaders & members to aid in giving my girlfriend, her son & myself Bible studies so she could learn the doctrine since she was raised catholic and we were denied studies by numerous members and leaders. Censored Dr. Vine while denying evangelism.
rob, What were the reasons given? Were you holding to heresy?
He is going to get his fair trial in front of God.
Good luck holding Micheff accountable. I used to attend his home church. It's small, mostly dead, and is filled with retired higher up conference officials and sycophants. Those people will NEVER discipline Micheff.
Oh yeah, I don't have any illusions as to that anyone will actually have spiritual fortitude like Nehemiah. No, we have a bunch Eli's letting the wicked Hophni and Phineas run rampant. Their end will be similar, I'm afraid.
Nothing has changed.
In was the Pharisees that stir the people against the gospels which Jesus Christ was preaching at that time.
Has anything has changed since then in adventism? Nothing has changed.
The Gospel must be preach throughout the world then the end will come, according the Holy Scriptures.
Chapter 12 and 13 of Revelation must be preach throughout the whole world, then the end will come.
"WBM*1213"
Strong's Concordance.
Christ say, i told you beforehand,so when this happens it will not come on you unawares,the real people of God will stand for the truth nothing but the truth as it is in Christ Jesus who is the love man and the just man.
The unprofessional credibility of this publication is at stake..... Why the hell do they publish an article without evidence. Really speaks of lack of integrity!
Period!
Go to everone called preacher or teacher of the kids in your SDA church hold out 1 or ,2 hundred dollars .and Say " this is for the church .its yours if you right now quote all 326 words of the Exodus 20 ten commandments...you will cry that do few know them.the commandment keeping church! If they dont even know the commandants dont trust them with your kids....there are like over hundred thousands of sermons on line. Push a button they are set for the week ....sad.
That guy from the Michigan conference has by the title given by Jesus of "HIRELING". It is obvious that all he care for is the check, no the sheep. Sad to see the tares and the wheat diving in the right positions and some of our leader taking the goats side. We need to pray for them for time is short, very short and decisions are final. Oh Jesus, come soon!!
As organization. HE CAN DO WHEN you against organization policy!!!!
I agree that both should ne removed from their positions.
📯🕒⏳⌛🤍; Thank You for pointing out The TRUTH 🤍
We all need to repent for years of unfaithfulness. Many many prodigals living in open sin still have Church membership.
They sound like they are infallible.
Church has a DUTY to restrain, not just to sit there and complain and act cowardly. Consider these verses about God dealings with ELI and why:
1Sam 3:13For I have told him that I will judge his house forever for the iniquity which he KNOWETH; because his sons made themselves vile, and he RESTRAINED them NOT.
1Sam 4 :13 And when he came, lo, Eli sat upon a seat by the wayside WATCHING: for his heart TREMBLED for the ARK OF GOD. And when the man came into the city, and told it, all the city cried out.
ELI only WATCHED and TREMBLED. Too late for the ARK was gone to the Philistines. Taken by who? His sons whom HE NEVER RESTRAINED. AND HE DIED.
We cannot sit and tremble either as pastors, elders, church members as our leaders continue to become hardened in sin and pride and by taking God's church into the hands of papacy and then boldly CANCEL God's servant who dare say the TRUTH. If we will not act, GOD WILL.
I agree, the Church has a duty carry out God's justice in redemptive discipline.
Who is going to discipline these leaders?
Well the local Churches could if they have any spiritual courage. But will they? Probably not.
📯🕒⏳⌛🤍; SDA hierarchy general conference didn't have Faith in ALMIGHTY MAJESTY CREATOR INFALLIBLE AUTHORITY GOD JESUS CHRIST in the ⚰️💉 and left brethren to the wolves and Still Are & what about "next time" ?
Let's face it, there was only a handful who resisted the king of Babylon's food. You can be sure the leaders of the faith were saying, just sit down and shut up, but they took a stand. Praise God we have some people taking a stand and some with corage to stand against the leaders of the faith today to speak for the people who have suffered and are still suffering.
Consider Pastor Kelly and the Church Board of the do not even know how to act in this situation. Maybe they have not read it. They should know, but they don't. Could be. Let's pray for them. Blessings from Europe.
What the president of the Michigan conference did has been well established practice for a long time.
If the Churc decided to teach eternal hell? (As an example) wouldn't millions redirect their tithe?
Conrad Vine said nothing wrong.
They may not be teaching eternal hell but Ganoun Diop, head of PARL which is a GC institution, is teaching that the Catholic Church has changed, and that is nearly as bad. They are in league with Rome.
How will we judge the wicked after millennium if we are unable to HOLD accountable our leaders who have shown direct rebellion towards God by censoring God's voice??
"The execution of the judgment will be at the close of the one thousand years.” EW 52.1
After the saints are changed to immortality and caught up together with Jesus, after they receive their harps, their robes, and their crowns, and enter the city, Jesus and the saints sit in judgment. The books are opened-the book of life and the book of death. The book of life contains the good deeds of the saints; and the book of death contains the evil deeds of the wicked. These books are compared with the statute book, the Bible, and according to that, men are judged. The saints, in unison with Jesus, pass their judgment upon the wicked dead."
If we can't act in our local churches, how then are we qualified to judge the wicked at the end of all things?
One Andrews graduate pastor in Dallas told us that he knows how identify a discident: "one who comes to church with the Bible a Hymnal and a book of the Spirit of Prophesy. "
Another Andrews Dictor in theology told us , also in Dallas that : Pornography is very good for couples to enhance marrieges." So Michigan is pretty messed up. We need to pray for them. Lod have mercy.
Wow. That is disturbing.
i agree, no scriptures, no testimony. No proof or evidence.
Is it mitcheff or mischief?
Indeed, well played.
No one in this world can cancel my faith in Jesus Christ! Satan and his workers can try all they want to, but they will never succeed. I think a lot of undo publicity is being given to these men in power positions. The way to defuse bullying is to ignore them, turn your away from them and dust off your feet. Then pray that they will see the light once again.
At the same time, exposure to light will help God's people understand the issues. "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." Eph 5:11
If no dicipline you GOT INTO ARNACHISM!!!!!
These apostate Conference leaders and coward pastors, has brought shame and disgrace to God's words. They are the MODERN DAY SANHEDRIN, that's how the Jews treated Christ.
Way to much entry time wasted. Cut to 1/3.
I go to your churh if there.real teaching is being punished.
Suggesting a Para church is considered is a problem to many within the SDA church.
Are you without sin as you set yourself up to judge? Seems most people who have been redirecting their tithe for years or withholding their tithe for years are in favor of a Para church.
speak a little louder please
Jesus did not suggest a Para church in His day
Read EGW comments on Matthew 15:13
Parasite needs some truth in order to promote error. 9 Testimony does not suggest to return tithe to a Para church.
www.sdadefend.com/MINDEX-T/Truth%20About%20Tithing.pdf
So far 81 likes but hundreds of hirelings infiltraters and demons.
There should be GODLY Mediators according to Exodus 18.
What is the reason that Pastor Brad Thorpe has disciplined you?
Rudeness not energy, domineering is not heroism, JESUS used the voice of persuasion. Spirit of Prophecy quote
Not best to lift up one man so high and knock down other well known speakers who have a problem with redirecting tithe and suggesting a Para Church.
www.sdadefend.com/MINDEX-T/Truth%20About%20Tithing.pdf
Not everyone in the SDA church believe that a Para church is the answer. No one should force someone to repent and use the tithe to try to get people to join the Para church. Satan does not care how the church gets crushed. The Para church also will have sinners in it as well. There are ditches on sll sides. Pray for Jesus Hand to be on the Wheel. 2 Selected Messages 390, 391.
THE CHURCH will never be crushed. The organization may fall, but the church of God has always survived throughout eternity.
Did you know that the Matthew 18:15-18 is called the Saviour's Rule?
No evidence that this was followed. Also not one word was said about the conference man in that conference and Conrad Vine did not say anything that was not true. The word Trespass means to sin or violate. The powers to be may not like what was said but it was not a sin or a violation. The priests of Jesus day didn't like what He or His disciples said. They killed them all except for John and God would not let him die and so they put him on an island to shut him up. All through history people have been silenced and murdered because people in high places didn't like what they said. God is always in power and His will and truth is made clear to all even in things that happen that seem bad.