Nocturnal Bucks - FACT or FICTION?? w/MSU Deer Lab
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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Nocturnal bucks don’t exist I understand that now however they do change and become nocturnal in a certain area because they’re moving because of pressure. I have many bucks that are photogenic daylight hours on food plots and other areas and that changes once the hunting season starts and they only move in there after dark. The key that I have realized is I have to move into the timber to the small staging areas where the bucks are moving and eating bc they don’t feel comfortable in the well used feeding areas during day light. Great video guys and it just confirmed my experience. Keep up the great content
Love this 🎥 so true. Bucks aren't nocturnal if you know your bucks travel route set up several cameras along the trails find out what time he is coming through get the right wind set up hope for the best. Thats the way i do it and kill nice bucks.
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There's a river next to where I hunt with a little island hard woods that are thick then another creek at the end creek going around another island then river explain it how I should hunt that open flat with trials going across it
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Mmm...maybe all day sits in bedding areas wouldn't be such a bad idea. 🤔
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Check out his last buck. I filmed it.. The Medusa buck on youtube. 24 point
I have never assumed that deer were nocturnal. I have seen too many moving around periodically throughout the day all during the season. They may not move far, and most people I know hunt a box stand on a green patch, which can certainly make you think they are nocturnal.
@@BG-bx4ey did ya watch the video bud?
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Talking to college professors and true subject matter experts is a vastly different conversation than one you commonly have with average persons. They have mounds of data and still couch their responses with various qualifiers - realizing that there are very few absolutes. Thank you for the great content.
They catch a lot of flack on their podcasts for such. 😂
Great information to digest, and chew on later..lol I've seen bucks that move and feed at night, but the same bucks move and feed during the day too. The hunting pressure makes them move in a smaller pattern I've noticed, through trailcams and scouting. They're still there and huntable, usually takes a bit more work. Love ya'll and what you're doing ❤️
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As a MSU grad and a long time subscriber to THP, I appreciate this video. Hail State!
1 thing the old timers I've hunted with have always looked at the cows in the area and will say " the cows are up eating, we got to get in the woods the deer are feeding" is there any truth that cows and deer feed at the same time? I personally call BS but 🤷♂️
I love the msu videos yall are doing. It's interesting to see what these deer we chase do!
Well, that was interesting. The bedding movement of that one buck throughout the month was an eye opener.
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Another great video that answers the question you hear every year. Are deer only moving at night now? Love this type of content! Keep ‘‘em coming!
I truly love this type of videos. I learn so much from them. I hope more videos like this keep coming. Thank y’all for all you do to keep us informed. God Blessed y’all and be safe and careful out there.
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My home state Grundy county. Missouri grows some dandy ones
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They are in there feet during the day, in a thick low pressure area where they will never been seen.
I gotta find my local buck nest. How is that labeled on a map.lol
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Good information. Thanks for the awesome content.
I watched a video that was put out on RUclips in April of 2012 by the National Deer Association. That study was about deer movement during different moon phases. They discovered that deer are “Perpuscular”, meaning they move mostly at dawn & dusk. The moon phases didn’t effect them like we mostly think. It was a pretty interesting video.
That's funny, how come there are so many deer hit on the roadways right around the full moon ?
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and always see more deer dead and alive.
@@stevecooper8121 so I guess you did your own scientific study to come to that conclusion? I just gave an example of a study put out and I also gave the time line and institute that did it. The only time that I have first hand experienced the moon effecting the deer is they move more at moon rise and moon set. An older hunter told me that and proved it to me. So, do you’re own research and come to your own conclusions.
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It must be true cause they are really easy to kill at night in the fields with a spotlight!
Another awesome video with solid information. Thanks a bunch for what you do and keeping it for us common people who cannot afford the big dollar stuff and who love to hunt.
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Wanna see somebody blow a head gasket?? When they say their "target buck(s)" have "gone nocturnal"... Tell them "No he/they haven't. They just aren't showing up where YOU are during daylight hours.".... Grab some popcorn and sit back.
keep the good info coming. hear this myth all the time. though I can't say that I hate other hunters believing all the mis information. it really works in our advantage lol
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They make good points about people jumping to conclusions, but our deer are all ABSOLUTELY nocturnal during gun season, especially the mature bucks. We set up 20-25 cameras on ~100 acre tracts and hunt hard. The only daytime pics we get of mature bucks are bedding areas aside from the offseason and 1 week in November. Nothing on trails, water crossing, feed sources, etc. For 10 years straight we have only killed big bucks in the rut or the 1st week of bow season. During firearm season, 92% of our pics on travel routes and 98% on feed are at night(and the 2% are yearlings). If you don't call that nocturnal, we are having a useless conversation on semantics.
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I hunt 90% open cattle ground with 10% timber woodlots however, I am 100% surrounded by pine thickets/cutovers/ and few thinnings. Surrounding leases out high pressure with dogs, etc. I tend to only see quality bucks right before dark unless mornings during rut. Is there any options to promote buck activity at other times of the day due to not having bedding areas on me?
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I hunt 90% open cattle ground with 10% timber woodlots however, I am 100% surrounded by pine thickets/cutovers/ and few thinnings. Surrounding leases out high pressure with dogs, etc. I tend to only see quality bucks right before dark unless mornings during rut. Is there any options to promote buck activity at other times of the day due to not having bedding areas on me?
Thanks THP,
Carter!
Are we talking Whitetail only, or? How much have you studied Blacktail in the PNW? I'd bet there are huge differences in patterning and habits between species. Interesting info...
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#HAILSTATE my school! Graduated there in 2014.. I have got in several arguments with the old heads here in MS about "nocturnal" deer.. My father-in-law got highly heated about it..
Comment on deer spending time in beds. Here in Pa. I have a place where I can easily observe a small hollow where deer frequently bed during heavy snow. My record is a doe who NEVER left her bed for FIVE days! Snow was approximately 18 inches deep and I could walk up to about 25 meters of her. No tracks in snow and one sunny day as I approached she calmly stood up and walked away. No injuries; no blood or hair in bed.
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This is gonna make a lot of people butt hurt. FACTS DON’T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS
Yeah the people complaining about practices with public have ZERO skin in the game. The funds are generated from hunting/fishing sales
Once a buck gets 3 years old he's Virtually Unkillable we only harvest 20% of our mature bucks that means 80% of mature bucks dye in the woods of old age that's not because they coming out during the daytime just because you guys got a bunch of collard bucks down there in Virginia Mississippi wherever up here in Maine when they get really old they're really smart and they learn very quick
I love watching your content but this one was hard to follow. Yes anyone with common sense knows a buck isn’t 100% “nocturnal”. But when it comes to hunting that buck on your specific lease he can and often is in all practical purposes nocturnal. Example I have 138 acres I can hunt, I can’t stray past that the property line. If a 180 inch buck is showing up at 1:00 AM and never anytime soon. There is no use making that your target buck, you will eat a tag. Yes he is probably standing up in his bedding area an hour befor dark two or there properties away, but he will never reach you. So in all practical purposes of hunting him, he is nocturnal. Agree not technically but to your hunting property he may very well be. Not everyone gets to hunt vast acres and can track down the bedding areas, we just have to manage what we have. I think when people say nocturnal they are speaking a bout their areas not in general. Let’s face it if a buck is in his bedding area 30 mins to hour before dark, he not going to get harvested unless your in the bedding area. Very few people get to hunt those honey holes.
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All bucks move during daylight. I call a buck nocturnal if he only shows up at nighttime when I’m trying to hunt him, lol. In my experience, I can find them moving during daylight close to buck beds with a water source and browse in very close proximity.
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I was literally living in Chicago broke couldn’t hunt didn’t even have a bow at the time I found the video titled teds Missouri buck I was blown away. Quickly binged watched everything I could and was ready for the next season killed an absolute stud on Illinois public super close to Chicago using the same tactics y’all showed me that’s no BS.
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My big bucks on my hunting lease go nocturnal within just a few days after archery 🏹 season starts in September. After that if you see them only if they are chasing does. Every large buck I’ve been fortunate to harvest came in minutes before dark.
Interesting. I’ve never seen bucks on my property in the small field next to my house that backs up to USNF during the day. But, I’ve seen them at night out of my windows at night especially during rut when does are around. That’s not to say they’re nocturnal but they don’t go to areas where there might be human activity during the day in my experience.
Seeing a lot of bucks in field bc land is poorly managed. That revelation is worth its weight in gold
All my big bucks have been killed around 130am.... I mean...1030
Wind wind wind. Human scent drives most mature bucks to surrounding cover. Probably to the neighbor.
Hey guys - how come Jake’s broadhead isn’t listed in the description with the broadheads everyone else is using???
I dont think its a myth at all.
Go out spotting some night and see how many more bucks you will see, especially large ones.
Since the coyote population has increased, and with longer hunting seasons as compared to years ago, they are much more heavily hunted.
These BS sessions are just that for the most part.
As for the well managed property, that might be true in places having mostly private land, like say Texas.
But go to areas having very large areas of public land, and where there is essentially no deer management, and see if that theory still applies.
It's fake, there are no nocturnal bucks or you or anyone would kill one! Just saying ...
All whitetail deer are nocturnal all year long. Bucks and does. It is a distinct natural chatacter of the species. And they are all active during daylight at some point depending on how comfortable they are all in relation to seasons, time, weather, location, hunting pressure. Just look at their eyes. The relflective properties are similiar to a walleye which are crepuscular ( twighlight ) feeders. Very active and see excellent under low light or no light. But they also can be active during the day depending on the situation. So....when hunting pressure or negative activity impacts the deer. Its a natural easy choice by them to only move in areas that they have been pressured on at night. And they are on unpressured areas during the day.
It's hard for some guys to take this because it changes what their Fathers and Granddads told them. It's difficult to bring these "ideas" home. Like a deer you need to chew on this for while. Take the info get outside and harvest deer using these methods and then explain what you've learned when your racks are bigger and you've outgrown the traditions.
i have many bucks that are definitely nocturnal. no high pressure, no food sources, not hunting on farms and private land. i'm getting all the deer in the area on many cams. majority of the deer will be moving at all hours, night, early morning, midday, afternoon, dusk, etc. but there are definitely some fellas that only ever show up in complete darkness.
now of course, they aren't fully nocturnal, in that they only get up and move at dark. we know that deer get up throughout the day. they have to. but, these particular deer seem to be staying deep in their cover when they do that. they just aren't getting up and wandering about. but once it's dark, then they go and roam. some brutes have just adjusted and their survival instinct is #1, it seems. and i'll think that they will surely show themselves and get dumb during the rut. nope. some of these guys are still only moving at night, looking for does, hitting the scrapes and rubs, etc. it's crazy, but i swear, some are just THAT strict to their survival instinct.
there's monster bucks out there that have never, ever been seen. they are just that smart.
Love what you guys do! Crazy that you guys started in 2017 and are where you are. Very deserving.
Where do bucks hide? Believe it or not I kicked up a bedded buck on my older brother's property that was bedded in a strip of timber seperating 2 soybean fields that wasn't even 10 yards wide. His late father in law had a bull dozer come in there and pushed all the timber into a pile to make more room to plant. That buck had a "nest" in the middle of that pile and that's where he lived. Unreal.
All deer are nocturnal. Look at the eyes in a spotlight. Just because something is nocturnal doesn't mean they're activity is in the dark only.
Isn’t that sad that the public is so downright confused about the quality of the forest pertaining to the well-being of the animals even though it’s these same city people who declare themselves to be animals rights lovers while truly they are clueless about what makes good habitat, I guessing they especially love the animals in Disney animation.
That’s why god created forest fires. And if you look at really wild terrain, with little to no human intervention, they tend to burn in patchy areas, which gives a more diverse environment for all the animals.
Awesome video
Great content fellas
trail cams say yes, in both Eastern WA and from when I lived in shitehole swamp land NC.
Once again... great content... but the audio is horrible. Have your guests on mono or something to keep the extreme split between the left and right channel.
Seems like by definition they are not nocturnal but for all practical purposes they are. If they only move in the bedding area and only a few hundred yards in the daylight then I'm calling that nocturnal in reality
I have been told by hunters that they have seen mature bucks come to the edge of the cover during rut and does coming in estrus or in estrus would actually go to them in that cover. The mature bucks would not for the most part leave that cover during daylight hours. Have you heard of that situation? Thanks
They may not be nocturnal Kansas Illinois northern states but I guarantee in the south South Alabama Florida they're nocturnal every now and you'll catch one right at daylight or ride a dark chasing a doe except for the young year and a half hour two and a half year old six or eight points some of them will chase during the day both the real big ones nocturnal